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Coconuts
10-25-2007, 3:24 PM
Today we investigate the murder of Rob, Administrator of Explosm. The investigation will be updating as the trial follows. We have picked up some suspects through the clues we already have.

The suspects are:

die_hard03 - We found him in the building closest to the alleyway. In preliminary questioning, the suspect claimed to not know Rob.

cbizzleforlyfe - She had recently been quarreling with the victim. When the crime aired on the radio

Con-Con - He called the crime in. When we showed up, he looked like he had a struggle. On further examination, we found a concealed weapon.

ne3 - He was caught running from the crime. He claims to have seen the attack when it happened and was too scared too call it in. In further examination, there was blood under his fingernails.

Fr0z3n - Fr0z3n claims to have heard a scream and came running down from the building across the street. Although he did not call he waited while Con-Con did. He said he knew the victim.

Each person has been assigned a lawyer.

die_hard03: GoodCopBadCop
cbizzleforlyfe: Zebbs
Con-Con: Audioslave
ne3: ShaggMuffin
Fr0z3n: jewishjosh

The jury has been assigned

Jury:
NVM
davidmanman
SoulInferno
meTalmessiah
Lag
Gryphon
Spastic Colon
Shadow Preist
Grim
Mr. Anorexia
Chardon07
RabidMonkey
History
blltmssgy
SlowCheetah
mrs3xy
werty66
Mockfrock Yartz
green_rubber_bands
Crabstick

Suspects/Lawyers: Message your clients to build a case together. Be creative (e.i have the lawyer call the suspect to the stand.).

Investigator: Don't say who you are!

Murderer/Accomplice: Talk to eachother about what jury member you want to kill.

Jury: Discuss the choices in this thread. More clues will be revealed each round and when all clues are presented you will have a vote.

OK, Lawyer/suspects, make your opening statements.

EDIT: If you haven't guessed, I'm the judge.

Chardon07
10-26-2007, 5:34 PM
JURYIm a pissed off Jury member, ive been pulled from work to do this! and by the look of things, this will be a long trial.
ne3 is looking very suspicious!

Grim
10-26-2007, 5:43 PM
Con-Con - He called the crime in. When we showed up, he looked like he had a struggle. On further examination, we found a concealed weapon.

ne3 - He was caught running from the crime. He claims to have seen the attack when it happened and was too scared too call it in. In further examination, there was blood under his fingernails.



Those two look very suspicious to me. If I had to choose between those two it would be *flips coin.* ne3.

History
10-26-2007, 6:21 PM
Con-Con - He called the crime in. When we showed up, he looked like he had a struggle. On further examination, we found a concealed weapon.



Fr0z3n - Fr0z3n claims to have heard a scream and came running down from the building across the street. Although he did not call he waited while Con-Con did. He said he knew the victim.


Hmm, but these two were together when the crime was called in. Fishy?

Shagg
10-26-2007, 7:02 PM
Alright, I guess I'll kick off the whole Lawyer thing..

I call Cbizzle to the stand, your honor.

Cbizzle, what subject were you and the victim arguing over? We have validated proof that there was yelling before the murder. Could the subject have been strong enough for a possible motive for killing the victim?

bizzle
10-26-2007, 8:28 PM
We were yelling at each other yes, but it wasnt for serious. Rob had recently decided to take up acting and myself being an accomplished actor agreed to help him practice for his improv class he decided he was going to audition for. We were actually in the middle of a skit. That must have been what someone overheard as "quarrelling"

Its really too bad he never made it to his first class. He was really quite good.

I_Smell
10-26-2007, 8:29 PM
ROB WAS MURDERED? Wh- Somebody get this on the front page. Holy crap!!

Shagg
10-26-2007, 8:32 PM
Your honor, I rest my case. Cbizzle's alibi will suffice for now.

blltmssgy
10-26-2007, 10:21 PM
Right now I would say that Con-Con, and ne3 look the most suspicious, but we do not know too much about die_hard03, and I think something strange and/or suspicious will arise from him soon.

Shmuh
10-26-2007, 10:23 PM
OBJECTION!

RabidMonkey
10-26-2007, 10:29 PM
I feel that we need more evidence to point fingers, I will withhold any finger pointing until this evidence arises.

Shadowpriest
10-26-2007, 10:33 PM
I will wait for the next round for more clues to decide, but for now the most suspicious people are ne3 and con-con.

Spastic
10-26-2007, 10:33 PM
I feel that we need more evidence to point fingers, I will withhold any finger pointing until this evidence arises.

Yes I agree, you guys need to sway me, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Cbizzle has yet to convince me of her innocence.

green rubber bands
10-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Shouldn't we know how Rob was killed?

AidanC
10-26-2007, 11:30 PM
Hey coconuts, is this like the werewolf game? Sorta kinda? I'll stop posting because I'm not in it, but the game idea is good.

Lag
10-27-2007, 1:09 AM
Cbizzle still looks mighty suspicious as she was up on that bench for about an hour and a half before she replied.

However, I'd still like to hear from the others before I make any accusations.

Werty
10-27-2007, 2:31 AM
Hmm. I think that having a concealed weapon is pretty suspicious. I mean, why the fuck else would he have one? But, like Lag, I guess I'll wait for the others to explain themselves.

meTalmessiah
10-27-2007, 7:09 AM
I agree, a concealed weapon is a bit of a reach for someone who was running from a crime. Why would someone run if they had protection on their person?

Coconuts
10-27-2007, 8:24 AM
Hey coconuts, is this like the werewolf game? Sorta kinda? I'll stop posting because I'm not in it, but the game idea is good.

Not exactly, some ideas are from it, but no.

The round will end with the murderer/accomplice say who they're going to kill from the jury. (No suspects or lawyers can be killed). It will also end when all of the lawyers and suspects have said something about their case.

blltmssgy
10-27-2007, 9:11 AM
I agree, a concealed weapon is a bit of a reach for someone who was running from a crime. Why would someone run if they had protection on their person?

It is quite suspicious, but in last week's CSI:NY (I know it's a TV show, but still they investigate crimes) they walk in on a guy and he runs away, they find him with a concealed gun. But he was only running because the gun was unliscened, and he was going to use it to kill himself and no other reason. But I agree with green_rubber_band when he says we need to know how Rob died. Also with Lags for more info in general on the case.

Also I think that it will be a good idea for when some jury member gets killed each round to look at what they had been saying.

green rubber bands
10-27-2007, 10:38 AM
Also I think that it will be a good idea for when some jury member gets killed each round to look at what they had been saying.

They could always just kill one that was accusing someone else, in order to throw us off track. That one's a Sherlock Holmes classic.

blltmssgy
10-27-2007, 11:26 AM
They could, but we should still take a look at it.

Werty
10-27-2007, 1:14 PM
Meh, I still think a concealed weapon is pretty suspicious. What was the weapon, and how was Rob killed?

Shagg
10-27-2007, 1:16 PM
The jury can't ask questions by the way (or atleast won't get any answers).. only lawyers can do that.
(That's just how the court works, not just reciting the rules of the game.)

Zebbs
10-27-2007, 1:23 PM
Kay, so what do I have to do?

Can lawyers question suspects they are not assigned to?

Shagg
10-27-2007, 1:27 PM
Zebbs, just see my post earlier. I questioned another suspect, Cbizzle, when I called her to the stand. Basically you just interrogate suspects, question your client via PM's to plan a strategy, and that's really it. But barely anyone is on.. so it's hard to push this game forward.

Coconuts
10-27-2007, 2:10 PM
Lawyers can also try to explain why their suspect is innocent without haviing the suspect there. it is best to devise a speech of sorts with them by PM, Email or Msn etc... seeing as without them there, there is no questioning.

NVM
10-27-2007, 3:39 PM
Diehard seems awfully suspicious.

GCBC
10-27-2007, 6:14 PM
Ok, me next.

Your honor, I call ne3 to the stand.

ne3, a couple of questions for you:

1.) Why were you running from the scene? To get help or to run from your guilty conscience?

2.) And just WHY was there blood under your nails?

ne3
10-27-2007, 6:31 PM
Answering to your first question, I thought that I would try getting some help, but as I got caught by the police before I reached any phonebox, this wasn't possible.

The blood under my fingernails was because I tried to help the victim with his wound, but I quickly realized that I wouldn't be much of a help like that, and I tried to get help, as I got caught.

(Am I doing it right?)

Crabstick
10-28-2007, 1:06 AM
I thought that I would try getting some help

Contradictory to your inital claims (first post), which say you were too scared to go for help. *insert suspicion here*

RabidMonkey
10-28-2007, 4:42 AM
Coconuts, did the suspects actually think up, by themselves(or with their lawyers maybe), those pieces at the top? Or did you invent them? Because if they came up with them themselves, then I now believe that ne3 is guilty.

Oberlin
10-28-2007, 4:48 AM
Oh, fuck me for missing this.

By the way, I think GCBC is badgering ne3. True cop nature showing up.

Coconuts
10-28-2007, 6:50 AM
Coconuts, did the suspects actually think up, by themselves(or with their lawyers maybe), those pieces at the top? Or did you invent them? Because if they came up with them themselves, then I now believe that ne3 is guilty.

I came up with them.

ne3
10-28-2007, 1:44 PM
You're all on me.. WHERE ARE YOU SHAGGMUFFIN? :wail:

EDIT:
Coconuts, did the suspects actually think up, by themselves(or with their lawyers maybe), those pieces at the top? Or did you invent them? Because if they came up with them themselves, then I now believe that ne3 is guilty
I wasn't sure if he ment too scared to help the victim while the murderer was there, or too scared to call the police.
If so, am I allowed to edit the post that I made above? :fmita:

Coconuts
10-28-2007, 2:25 PM
You're all on me.. WHERE ARE YOU SHAGGMUFFIN? :wail:

EDIT:

I wasn't sure if he ment too scared to help the victim while the murderer was there, or too scared to call the police.
If so, am I allowed to edit the post that I made above? :fmita:

You claim to have seen the murder and said you were too scared to call it in.

ne3
10-28-2007, 2:53 PM
Oh thanks, I guess you made that clear, you didn't answer my other question though. Or maybe the answer for that was obvious? :indiff:

NVM
10-28-2007, 3:00 PM
I'd be interested in what exactly ne3 saw....

jewishjosh
10-28-2007, 4:24 PM
Your honour, my client, Fr0z3n, and I have prepared an opening statement.

My client was sitting in a restaurant waiting for his date to arrive when he heard a scream from across the street. He bravely rushed in its general direction to help. Upon his arrival he first saw a distraught Con-Con, who showed my client to the scene of the crime. My client then saw Rob, a friend of his of one year, dead on the floor. As Con-Con seemed to know more about the crime than my client did, he urged Con-Con to call it in while he waited.

We trust that the members of the jury will see that my client is legit, and that you can acquit.

blltmssgy
10-28-2007, 4:50 PM
I like the sound of that, "my client is legit, and that you can acquit."

ne3
10-28-2007, 6:14 PM
I laughed when I read "He bravely rushed in its general direction to help."

Coconuts
10-28-2007, 6:41 PM
Audioslave need to get in here and defend his client and Die Hard needs to defend himself. The murderer and accomplice also have to pm me about who they're going to kill. So the round is nearly over and another clue is on it's way.

Soul
10-28-2007, 7:08 PM
I have a question what exactly is the jury supposed to do each round other than discuss who the killers may be? And is there a specific round where the jury must choose who we believe the killer is?

NVM
10-28-2007, 7:11 PM
It's die hard.
Discuss.

GCBC
10-28-2007, 7:34 PM
Die hard is clearly not guilty. He didn't even know Rob, hence no motive. Also, he was in the proximity, but not right on the scene. Obviously innocent.

blltmssgy
10-28-2007, 7:42 PM
GCBC, the first rule of murder is if you do not want to get caught, do not kill someone you know. I think that we will be hearing something suspicious about die_hard soon.

Shadowpriest
10-28-2007, 9:11 PM
blltmssgy has a point, and being able to think one step ahead is a murderer's sure way out, you might be right, or you might be falling into his scheme.

Crabstick
10-28-2007, 11:51 PM
I have a question what exactly is the jury supposed to do each round other than discuss who the killers may be? And is there a specific round where the jury must choose who we believe the killer is?

Jury: Discuss the choices in this thread. More clues will be revealed each round and when all clues are presented you will have a vote.

I think we vote each round... Coconuts can we get a confirmation on this?

My client was sitting in a restaurant waiting for his date to arrive when he heard a scream from across the street.

I find this hard to believe for two reasons:

1) Surely someone else in the restaurant would have also heard the scream and responded
2) Fr0z3n on a date? I think not.

RabidMonkey
10-29-2007, 4:47 AM
A person who had no connections to Rob would have been unlikely to kill him because there is no motive. The only motives for a person killing someone the didn't know was because the said person saw something the murderer didn't wish for them to see. Or because the murder is a crazed lunatic who likes to kill. Crazed lunatics don't usually have an accomplish unless it's something like the KKK, on a much smaller scale.
Most likely he killed by someone who had a connection to him. So we must find all connections each of the suspects had to Rob.
Both Frozen and Cbizzle have said that they knew Rob. This either means they're smart in trying to hide the fact that one or both killed Rob, because by saying they knew him they don't start their alibi with a lie. Or that they just simply knew him.
Die_hard claims to not know Rob at all, which can mean he is trying to hide the fact that he knew Rob either out of fear of putting himself in the limelight or to hide the fact that he killed him. If die_hard did indeed know him, he is very stupid, and all will point at him if there is a link found. Otherwise he just didn't know him and was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Con Con and ne3 were not identified as know or not knowing the victim, how ever the blood under the fingernails and the concealed weapon points at these two. But we need more evidence to prove this.

I call for investigations into the exact nature of the relations between the victim and the suspects, also between the suspects.

Another thing, I would like to see a person from that restaurant who saw Frozen at the time of death. And I also feel an interview with his date would be worthy.

I would also like an investigation into the nature of this play that Rob and Cbizzle were acting out. And the person who heard this shouting to be questioned as to the nature of the wording of the shouting.

What direction was ne3 running in, was it towards a close by phonebox? Did he have a cellphone on him? Why didn't he shout for help instead of running for help? He could have stopped the flow of blood with a wadded up piece of shirt.


Coconuts, you should have drawn up a map, detailing where people were when caught, where various things were, like Rob's body, the lay of the land, phone boxes, because ne3 could have gone to the restaurant, but that was frozen's invention, so he didn't know.

Shagg
10-29-2007, 4:50 AM
Rabid Monkey.. I'm quite sure you do not understand the nature of a jury member. :ahe:


You do not get your questions answered, since you aren't even supposed to ask them in the first place. You are supposed to absorb what the lawyers state each round, and then you kill who you think is the killer.

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 3:03 PM
My client could not be here today, but I assure you all, he is guilty only of trying to protect himself and others. You see, Con-Con carried a weapon, that he does have a permit for, because he had forewarning of the crime. How, do you ask? Elementary, my dear Watson. The day before, when picking up Ne3 for for their weekly ballet lessons, he noticed the outline of a (rather large) figure that he knew to be Rob. It was evident the two were fighting, and Ne3 struck Rob before the Explosm owner stomped out of the house. Needless to say, Ne3's movements at ballet were not as graceful as usual. Normally, this would have not have prompted the tranquil Con-Con to take any of his own actions, but after the lesson when Ne3 went for a smoke, Con-Con heard fragments of a conversation. "I'll kill him!" The voice said, no doubt it was Ne3's. "Tomorrow night, I'll blow the motherfucker away!"

So, deciding to wait rather than prompt the already volatile Ne3, Con-Con went to see Rob before Con-Con, warning him of the thread that might have been posed by his friend. Con-Con offered to give him protection, showing Rob the gun he brought, unfortunately Rob did not see things the same and went to leave, but Con-Con could not have Rob's death on his conscience so he tried to talk sense into the man, Rob punched him and they got into a struggle. Con-Con left, and after cooling down, went back to apologize to Rob, only to find a grinning Ne3 standing above the body. Ne3 pointed the gun to Con-Con and demanded that he put his hands on his head and call the police while he made a run for it. Why did Con-Con not tell the police what had happened? Fear, of course. Con-Con had long knew that Ne3 had shady ties, friends from the wrong side of town, he naturally feared for his life. Knowing he couldn't give up his former friend quite yet, he played it cool. Only now is he coming forth with it, now that he is in witness protection. That is why he is not here today, your honor. Will he be able to testify? I don't know. I trust that you will all make the right decision and put a killer in jail and allow Con-Con to stay hidden so that he will not be harmed.

Your honour, my client, Fr0z3n, and I have prepared an opening statement.

My client was sitting in a restaurant waiting for his date to arrive when he heard a scream from across the street. He bravely rushed in its general direction to help. Upon his arrival he first saw a distraught Con-Con, who showed my client to the scene of the crime. My client then saw Rob, a friend of his of one year, dead on the floor. As Con-Con seemed to know more about the crime than my client did, he urged Con-Con to call it in while he waited.

We trust that the members of the jury will see that my client is legit, and that you can acquit.

Let me just back this up, as well, because it was Fr0z3n who was able to calm my client down enough to call the police.

green rubber bands
10-29-2007, 3:55 PM
Audioslave, it would seem as if your client is currently incarcerated for an unrelated crime...interesting.

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 4:13 PM
Audioslave, it would seem as if your client is currently incarcerated for an unrelated crime...interesting.

I assure you, sir, it just a front for his protection from the vile menance known as Ne3.

Coconuts
10-29-2007, 4:39 PM
Jury gets to discuss every round and depending on what the crime lab discovers and what is presented they get to vote. At the end of the game. Besides discussing you may also point out what is missing and the crime lab and investigators may decide to investigate your concerns.

Rabid monkey, that would be a part of the clues. You get a few once a round.

On with the trial.

Crime lab: We tested the blood under Ne3's nails, It was Rob's. Although there was an interesting characteristic about the blood. It was not fresh.

Investigators: We contacted Ox of the S&S talent agency about the acting classes and Cbizzle was infact teaching Rob to act. On further investigation, however, it was found that the deceased had a signifigant other, Sugabe. When questioned, Cbizzle admitted to having "feelings" about the victim. She had not realized there was couple.
We found the concealed weapon of Con-Con's not to be a gun, as attorney Audioslave mentioned, but a knife.
After investigating Fr0z3n's connection to Rob, we found that Fr0zen was Rob's friend who was often seen out drinking with Kris, matt and Dave.

After presenting this, a pretty skinny, raver-esque person, very much looking like they're on drugs ran up to the judge's desk.

Mr. Anorexia: Hey-y-y. You know that guy-y-y Chardon07?
Coconuts: Yes, he's a jury member. Very pissed about losing a promotion in the discussion department, bnearly became a Regular. What has happened.
Mr. Anorexia: I found him at our club-b-b. He's, like, dead-d-d

>Spamers = stoners
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I would advise all Lawyers and suspects not to o into too much detail describing what happend. There will be a lot of rounds, and no one is getting persecuted next round or the round after that or the round after that etc... Also, don't go into to much detail, because I may prove it wrong, not most of the statement, but a chunk if I don't like it.

By not lying, I mean not blatantly saying, after I have said something and contradicting it. (E.I Saying that Rob did not take acting lessons, after I confirm it.). Alibis can be pulled out of your ass, but the investigators will confirm/deny it. Don't worry, however, chances are I would do that much. Jury; don't believe everything on the stand.

The next round begins.

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 5:02 PM
Crime lab: We tested the blood under Ne3's nails, It was Rob's. Although there was an interesting characteristic about the blood. It was not fresh.

We found the concealed weapon of Con-Con's not to be a gun, as attorney Audioslave mentioned, but a knife.
After investigating Fr0z3n's connection to Rob, we found that Fr0zen was Rob's friend who was often seen out drinking with Kris, matt and Dave.

Let me just point out that this first piece of evidence supports my client's recount of the fight the night before.

As for the knife, my client was smart enough to bring two weapons, although unfortunately not smart enough to dump both. He did not include both because, of course, it makes him look guilty.

blltmssgy
10-29-2007, 5:09 PM
Just out of curiosity, Coconuts has stated that the investigators might look into something a jury member wants, and it seems to me that die_hard03 might get jealous soon if we don't find some evidence. If the investigators would be so nice to recheck his apartment/house and where the cops found him, that'd be nice. And rob's old blood in ne3's nails is quite suspicious.

Coconuts
10-29-2007, 6:07 PM
Just though I'd point this out:
Con-Con offered to give him protection, showing Rob the gun he brought, unfortunately Rob did not see things the same and went to leave

Shagg
10-29-2007, 6:16 PM
I'd like to state that the old blood found under my clients finger nails were because Rob had accidentally cut himself the week prior and got a "boo-boo". My client had to help him bandage it up, but my clients clumsy hand skills made his fingers frequentley touch the cut; which is why blood must have gotten under his finger-nails.

Chardon07
10-29-2007, 6:20 PM
Mr. Anorexia: Hey-y-y. You know that guy-y-y Chardon07?
Coconuts: Yes, he's a jury member. Very pissed about losing a promotion in the discussion department, bnearly became a Regular. What has happened.
Mr. Anorexia: I found him at our club-b-b. He's, like, dead-d-d



im dead?

Shagg
10-29-2007, 6:23 PM
im dead?

Yeah, the Murder and Accomplice are trying to kill the investigator.

It appears they killed you instead. :lol:

Coconuts
10-29-2007, 6:27 PM
im dead?

ur dead.

You can have one last post to say your suspicions and goodbyes. that goes for all who die. You only get one post, and if you post more than that, expect infraction points.

Chardon07
10-29-2007, 6:35 PM
My dieing words are " find out who killed me and unquote"( my first words when i was born was " quote")

also i was going to vote Con-Con as being guilty.
oh and :argh:

RabidMonkey
10-29-2007, 7:20 PM
I'd like to state that the old blood found under my clients finger nails were because Rob had accidentally cut himself the week prior and got a "boo-boo". My client had to help him bandage it up, but my clients clumsy hand skills made his fingers frequentley touch the cut; which is why blood must have gotten under his finger-nails.

This seems rather strange to me. I'm suprised that ne3 wouldn't wash his hands after helping Rob with a bandage. Especially not washing his hands for a week or more. We needa know just how old that blood was :indiff: Because I personally highly doubt this, and I'd say most other members of the jury do too.

green rubber bands
10-29-2007, 7:28 PM
Your Honor, the Jury would like to request an inquiry be filed pretaining to the Cause of Death of the victim, Rob, as it would help us greatly to "cut through the bullshit", if you please.




EDIT: I'm now also thinking that Cbizzle looks pretty innocent. But on the flipside, the length that Con-Con's defence is going to to seperate the accused from Ne3 is almost suspicious, but I suppose could be chalked up to poor client-attorney communication at this point.

History
10-29-2007, 7:41 PM
Fellow jury members, I thought a little recap might help keep us straight on the evidence instead of sifting through all the posts over and over again.
So this is what we know so far, including any plausible motives, alibi's, and allegations made by lawyers. If I missed anything or got some facts/clues mixed up let me know and I'll edit it in.

Diehard- So far all we know is he was found in a building closest to the alley (where I assume is where the murder took place?)

Cbizzle- Recently arguing with Rob. She claims this arguement was fake and due to the acting classes she was teaching him. Later, it was confirmed that she was in fact giving Rob acting lessons. However, she does have a motive, it seems she had feelings for the deceased who was in a relationship, but claims not to know Rob was in a relationship.

Con-Con- Called in the crime and appeared to recently have been in a struggle. He was also found with a concealed weapon, a knife. In defense of his client, Audioslave also mentioned that Con-con had a gun, which he showed Rob to offer him protection. Supposedly Con-con left the scene, only to return later in time to witness the murder (or end of it), and call it into the police.
Currently Con con is incarcerated for an unrelated crime. His lawyer claims that is merely a facade and he is actually in a witness protection program.

Ne3- Found running from the crime after witnessing it. Blood was found under his nails which later tests showed was old. Ne3's lawyer, Shag claims the blood is old because Ne3 was implementing first aid on the victim a week prior to the murder. Allegations have been brought on Ne3 by Audioslave claiming that he had a scuffle with Rob the day before the murder, and further claims that his client, Con con, witnessed Ne3 standing over the body of Rob before running.

Fr0z3n- Knew the victim and was found to be out and about with Rob and company. He was with Con-con when the murder was called in. After questioning, Fr0z3n had an alibi, he was at a restaurant waiting on a date when he heard screams and rushed to help.

Well, I hope that helps to summarize and clean things up a bit! Personally, I have more questions than accusations, so I too am waiting further investigation. However, I don't trust you shady lawyers.

Shagg
10-29-2007, 7:45 PM
Your Honor.. Members of the Jury, my Client would never have killed Rob, and we can presume that Audioslave and his client are attempting to lead you astray from the TRUTH. If anything, I would say that they were trying to pass the blame on something Con-Con might have commited.

Crabstick
10-29-2007, 8:16 PM
My suspicion radar has gone off again

"I'll kill him!" The voice said, no doubt it was Ne3's. "Tomorrow night, I'll blow the motherfucker away!"

Surely a self-proclaimed "friend" of Rob's would have alerted authorities to the matter, or at least warned him in a manner other than approaching him with a knife

Con-Con offered to give him protection, showing Rob the gun he brought, unfortunately Rob did not see things the same and went to leave, but Con-Con could not have Rob's death on his conscience so he tried to talk sense into the man, Rob punched him and they got into a struggle.

It seems strange that Rob would react in such a manner to someone who was attempting to warn him of his impending demise, as well as the fact that he has said outright that there was a struggle, and that he returned to the scene.

I believe the shifting of blame is an attempt to hide his own guilt

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 8:50 PM
My suspicion radar has gone off again



Surely a self-proclaimed "friend" of Rob's would have alerted authorities to the matter, or at least warned him in a manner other than approaching him with a knife



It seems strange that Rob would react in such a manner to someone who was attempting to warn him of his impending demise, as well as the fact that he has said outright that there was a struggle, and that he returned to the scene.

I believe the shifting of blame is an attempt to hide his own guilt

Well the first obviously explains itself, why would my client jeopardize an otherwise fine friendship based on a outburst of anger that is common in...well...I'll get to that in a second.

There was something that Con-Con did not want revealed in the process of the trial, as it was something he was entrusted with, but I feel it my duty as a lawyer to expose the truth, and to do so I must reveal such: Ne3 and Rob were involved in a homosexual relationship. The two had been together for awhile now, and just recently problems began to arose, thus sparking my client's worry over Rob's wellbeing. Not thinking it prudent enough to see police help quite yet, he brought the two weapons just in case. Unfortunately, his suspicions were dead on.

I would also like to propose another theory, and theory it is only. What if Ne3 looked to Rob's other lover for help with the murder? Yes, that's right, Cbizzle. Perhaps she had finally confronted him about her suspicions of his other secret relationship, something Rob was evidently good at. Hell hath no furry like a woman scorned.

For arguments sake, let's say ne3 and cbizzle were both unaware of Rob's other partner, upon discovering, they both confronted him, leading to two separate fights. After the ballet lesson, Ne3 called cbizzle and they planned the murder. It fits, just think about it

blltmssgy
10-29-2007, 8:58 PM
Coconuts are there any boundaries on what lawyers can say about suspects who are not their clients?

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 9:17 PM
Obviously not.

green rubber bands
10-29-2007, 9:21 PM
Ne3 and Rob were involved in a homosexual relationship. The two had been together for awhile now, and just recently problems began to arose, thus sparking my client's worry over Rob's wellbeing...

I would also like to propose another theory, and theory it is only. What if Ne3 looked to Rob's other lover for help with the murder? Yes, that's right, Cbizzle. Perhaps she had finally confronted him about her suspicions of his other secret relationship, something Rob was evidently good at. Hell hath no furry like a woman scorned.

For arguments sake, let's say ne3 and cbizzle were both unaware of Rob's other partner, upon discovering, they both confronted him, leading to two separate fights. After the ballet lesson, Ne3 called cbizzle and they planned the murder. It fits, just think about it


I find it relativly hard to belive that, just because Rob might have been in a homosexual relationship with Ne3, that upon them both discovering it (simultaneously I might add), that they would set aside not only their feelings of love for Rob, but also of jealousy and competition towards each other, and divise a vindictive murder.

Think about it; vindictive murders usually take place during a moment of passion...but this was obviously planned out, by two people no less!

However- Cbizzle's location during the time the murder was reported was not clearly given ( a future clue perhaps?), so even when taking into account the "relationship", the argument does little to sway either way.


(Sorry if I'm acting like a lawyer, I'm just trying to play Devil's Advocate)

Audioslave
10-29-2007, 9:30 PM
I find it relativly hard to belive that, just because Rob might have been in a homosexual relationship with Ne3, that upon them both discovering it (simultaneously I might add), that they would set aside not only their feelings of love for Rob, but also of jealousy and competition towards each other, and divise a vindictive murder.

Think about it; vindictive murders usually take place during a moment of passion...but this was obviously planned out, by two people no less!

However- Cbizzle's location during the time the murder was reported was not clearly given ( a future clue perhaps?), so even when taking into account the "relationship", the argument does little to sway either way.


(Sorry if I'm acting like a lawyer, I'm just trying to play Devil's Advocate)

Considering the murder was committed a day after the discovery, it could still be considered a crime of passion.

Morfrock Yartz
10-30-2007, 2:07 AM
Needless to say, Ne3's movements at ballet were not as graceful as usual. Normally, this would have not have prompted the tranquil Con-Con to take any of his own actions, but after the lesson when Ne3 went for a smoke, Con-Con heard fragments of a conversation. "I'll kill him!" The voice said, no doubt it was Ne3's. "Tomorrow night, I'll blow the motherfucker away!"

Notice that it doesn't mention that Ne3 is talking about Rob he could simply be saying that he might blow Con-Con away in a ballet competition the following night or something like that.

Grim
10-30-2007, 3:40 PM
ne3 seems the most suspicious right now. So I'm still going for him.

Shadowpriest
10-30-2007, 6:39 PM
ne3 seems the most suspicious right now. So I'm still going for him.

Agreed, his alibi still doesn't quite convince me much, yet the whole Con-Con and Cbizzle conspiracy seems a bit fitting as well.

bizzle
10-30-2007, 7:05 PM
I loved Rob. When I found out about him and Sugabe I was upset, yeah but I wouldn't have killed him. I'd have killed Sugabe if I'd have been given the chance though.
Killing Rob doesnt even make sense. I have no chance with him now hes dead. :indiff:

meTalmessiah
10-30-2007, 7:42 PM
Con-Con looks the sketchiest to me. Simply because Audio has such a long, complicated alibi that seems filled with incredibly suspicious situations. Not only was he at Rob's house with a knife AND a gun, but he had a "disagreement" with Rob as well, and no witnesses to prove him innocent.

I smell a killer.

Lag
10-30-2007, 7:47 PM
Yes, but see, C-Bizz, how do we know you WON'T kill Sugabe now and try to pursue a relationship with Rob anyways?

However, it is hard to believe that two people who don't even know each other felt compelled enough to kill the person they loved and not simply each other or said person's lover.

Crabstick
10-30-2007, 7:51 PM
I'm starting to get a little suspicious of diehard, considering he's said absolutely nothing since court began. Perhaps afraid he'll have a guilty slip of the tongue?

DieHard
10-30-2007, 8:37 PM
No, I have not posted because I have not been asked any questions and it has not been necessary for me to post. That's why I have not said anything.

blltmssgy
10-30-2007, 8:38 PM
If I may ask, why were you, and no one else in that building, apprehended, and taken as a suspect. Why did the police not take anyone else? Why is it that they suspect you?

Fr0z3n
10-30-2007, 8:41 PM
No, I have not posted because I have not been asked any questions and it has not been necessary for me to post. That's why I have not said anything.

Just to let you all know, the same holds true for me. Ask me to the stand and I'll answer any questions you might have.

Audioslave
10-30-2007, 9:08 PM
Agreed, his alibi still doesn't quite convince me much, yet the whole Con-Con and Cbizzle conspiracy seems a bit fitting as well.

You seemed to have confused things. Con-Con is the innocent one, whereas Ne3 is the violent killer.

Zebbs
10-31-2007, 11:37 AM
I can assure you that my client is not a necropheliac and thus, innocent.

DieHard
10-31-2007, 4:14 PM
If I may ask, why were you, and no one else in that building, apprehended, and taken as a suspect. Why did the police not take anyone else? Why is it that they suspect you?

Well first of all that building is where I live, and they got me because I was just walking in as the the police came. Why didn't they take anyone else, I do not know.

GCBC
10-31-2007, 4:25 PM
Well first of all that building is where I live, and they got me because I was just walking in as the the police came. Why didn't they take anyone else, I do not know.

Police discrimination and racial profiling.

Shadowpriest
10-31-2007, 8:12 PM
You seemed to have confused things. Con-Con is the innocent one, whereas Ne3 is the violent killer.

Ohh, yeah... sorry about that, I misunderstood the names.

Shagg
10-31-2007, 8:17 PM
Audioslaves story would have to be completley false, because my client did not do ballet. He did Tap-Dance. Therefore, Audio needs to check his facts first.

Also, if my client and Rob were having some form of homo-erotic relationship; how does Audio and his client apparently know the whole story quite in depth? That seems very suspicious to me.

Audioslave
10-31-2007, 8:49 PM
Audioslaves story would have to be completley false, because my client did not do ballet. He did Tap-Dance. Therefore, Audio needs to check his facts first.

Also, if my client and Rob were having some form of homo-erotic relationship; how does Audio and his client apparently know the whole story quite in depth? That seems very suspicious to me.

It seems more suspicious to me that you can not actually disprove my story and rely on vague generalizations to try and defeat my story.

Audioslave
10-31-2007, 8:51 PM
Audioslaves story would have to be completley false, because my client did not do ballet. He did Tap-Dance. Therefore, Audio needs to check his facts first.

Also, if my client and Rob were having some form of homo-erotic relationship; how does Audio and his client apparently know the whole story quite in depth? That seems very suspicious to me.

It seems more suspicious to me that you can not actually disprove my story and rely on vague generalizations to try and defeat my story.

Oh, and also: I think if he remained firmly in the closet, he would also lie about his ballet lessons a secret.

Crabstick
10-31-2007, 11:10 PM
Oh, and also: I think if he remained firmly in the closet, he would also lie about his ballet lessons a secret.

I loved Rob.

I think that's what you call outing yourself

Lag
11-01-2007, 12:49 AM
Cbizzle's the girl.
They were talking about Con-con.

Audioslave
11-01-2007, 6:02 AM
No, you moron, we're talking about Ne3.

ne3
11-01-2007, 7:34 AM
I never had a sexual relationship with Rob, and I am certainly not gay.

Werty
11-01-2007, 1:02 PM
This seems to have turned into a name calling game instead of a court room. :ahe:

Audioslave
11-01-2007, 1:23 PM
I never had a sexual relationship with Rob, and I am certainly not gay.

Well of course if you're going to lie about blowing him away, you're going to lie about blowing him.

Spastic
11-01-2007, 3:46 PM
The senseless finger pointing of Audio just makes me suspect con-con even more. :think:

Crabstick
11-02-2007, 10:17 PM
Any indication of when the next round will begin?

blltmssgy
11-02-2007, 10:43 PM
I agree with Spastic Colon, about the finger-pointing not helping Con-Con (although it is funny).
Also if you, Audio, were in a real courtroom (which we aren't), you would be objected so many times for hear-say. Man, this could just be me (one of the jury members who decides who is guilty), but in my opinion you are supposed to prove that your client is innocent, not that someone else is guilty. There's a difference.

Audioslave
11-02-2007, 10:54 PM
Well if Ne3 and cbizzle were guilty, as I have stated, then my client by default would be innocent.

As well, there has been no serious objections made by other lawyers, and any made beyond this point would only highlight the lawyer's complete ineptitude at defending their client. I have presented you a circumstantial story that, so far, has not been proven false. It is a story more detailed and convincing than any you have heard so far, so does it not stand to reason that it is the one you should base your decision on? The extent of the defense for the other clients so far has been "They didn't do it." But why did they not do it? For my client, it is simple; there is no motive. On top of that, he tried to protect the victim from another suspect he believed posed him harm. Ne3 had motive (of which there is evidence proving it) and opportunity.

Shagg
11-02-2007, 10:58 PM
Audio.. the motive you provide for my client is all made up in it's entirety by you. I suggest the jury disregard any stories Con-Con's attorney provides unless there is conclusive evidence, which he apparently does not have. He only has "He said/she said" evidence, that no one else had heard.

I rest my case, your honor.

blltmssgy
11-02-2007, 11:01 PM
Yes, but also remember that the lawyers do not choose who is guilty and such, the jury votes on that.
Also the evidence that proves that Ne3 had motive to kill Rob has been shown by you, another person's lawyer. There is no evidence in the information that Coconuts gave us that says Ne3 had motive, while albeit he looks suspicious, you going all these great lengths to say that Ne3 and Cbizzle are guilty, while your client is sitting in jail, that makes it look very much like your client, Con-Con has something to hide.

Just as a note I think that Die_hard is the murderer/accomplish, and I feel that anyone besides froz3n could be the other person. Die_hard just seems very suspicious to me and froz3n is the only one so far with a pretty much air-tight alibi that other people can back up.

GCBC
11-02-2007, 11:40 PM
There is no evidence in the information that Coconuts gave us that says Ne3 had motive, while albeit he looks suspicious, you going all these great lengths to say that Ne3 and Cbizzle are guilty, while your client is sitting in jail, that makes it look very much like your client, Con-Con has something to hide.

Just as a note I think that Die_hard is the murderer/accomplish, and I feel that anyone besides froz3n could be the other person. Die_hard just seems very suspicious to me and froz3n is the only one so far with a pretty much air-tight alibi that other people can back up.

You are being just as ridiculous as Audio now, but at least Audio gave some good reasoning behind his suspicions. You are finger pointing and trying to start a bandwagon against Die Hard cuz you have no idea what else to do. You don't have any reason other then "he just looks suspicious to me" which is BS. He doesn't look suspicious to any body with half a brain. He didn't know the victim and therefore has no motive to kill him. The only reason that he was in the vicinity was cuz he lived there, simply wrong place, wrong time bad luck on his part. Why don't you start being logical and start looking more closely at the people with motives and physical evidence and stop trying to shift the focus onto my clearly innocent client. Die hard is innocent.

EDIT:
Upon going back and re-reading the thread, I've noticed you have been jumping on Die Hard's back from the beginning for no obvious reason. What do you have against my client and why all the false accusations?

Also, after re-reading, I see no instance of Frozen having any sort of air-tight alibi. AT ALL. Am I missing something? Please point out this so called alibi.

Coconuts
11-03-2007, 8:08 AM
Sorry for the long update time. I've been busy.

Crime lab: The victim was shot. There were signs of struggle, bruising on the shoulders. We tested the blood again under ne3 fingernails. It is a week old, however, it was found that other organic material under the suspects nails was a day, at most, old.

Investigators: Security tapes show ne3 run from the alley, but Fr0z3n was already with Con-Con before ne3 got there. The security tape was unable to show the whole interaction of these three, so if Con-Con was attacked, Fr0z3n saw it. There were no signs of a struggle on Con-Con's body, however.
die hard03 was pulled from an abandoned apartment. He was the only one in the building. Upon questioning those who know die hard03, it was found that at "Le Spame", die hard03 was unpopular. Although he complained to head offices, no one stopped the harassement.

A member of the police force comes to the judge.

BadAnkle: Another jury member has been spotted dead, your honor.
Coconuts: Who might it be good sir?
BadAnkle: Grim
Coconuts: Mmmyes, I guess he wasn't so "leet" after all.

Grim
11-03-2007, 8:56 AM
Eh. This game got kinda boring anyways in my opinion.

blltmssgy
11-03-2007, 1:06 PM
Why I believe Die_hard03 is guilty and froz3n is not.

Your honour, my client, Fr0z3n, and I have prepared an opening statement.

My client was sitting in a restaurant waiting for his date to arrive when he heard a scream from across the street. He bravely rushed in its general direction to help. Upon his arrival he first saw a distraught Con-Con, who showed my client to the scene of the crime. My client then saw Rob, a friend of his of one year, dead on the floor. As Con-Con seemed to know more about the crime than my client did, he urged Con-Con to call it in while he waited.



Let me just back this up, as well, because it was Fr0z3n who was able to calm my client down enough to call the police.


After investigating Fr0z3n's connection to Rob, we found that Fr0zen was Rob's friend who was often seen out drinking with Kris, matt and Dave.



Fr0z3n- Knew the victim and was found to be out and about with Rob and company. He was with Con-con when the murder was called in. After questioning, Fr0z3n had an alibi, he was at a restaurant waiting on a date when he heard screams and rushed to help.


Investigators: Security tapes show ne3 run from the alley, but Fr0z3n was already with Con-Con before ne3 got there. The security tape was unable to show the whole interaction of these three, so if Con-Con was attacked, Fr0z3n saw it. There were no signs of a struggle on Con-Con's body, however.

All these statements back up froz3n's alibi of him being in the restaurant eating when Rob got murdered. It has been backed up by four different people (besides froz3n, and 3 different if you take out his lawyer).


Well first of all that building is where I live, and they got me because I was just walking in as the the police came.


die hard03 was pulled from an abandoned apartment. He was the only one in the building. Upon questioning those who know die hard03, it was found that at "Le Spame", die hard03 was unpopular. Although he complained to head offices, no one stopped the harassement.

Coconuts gives us the official evidence and here he says that the building they found die_hard in was an abandoned apartment. Die_hard says that he lived in that apartment. Now that does not seem that normal to live in an abandoned apartment where no one else lives. Furthermore, your client now has motive, people were harassing him and he begged Rob to stop the harassment, but Rob did not. Vigilante justice? An abandoned apartment would be a great place to shoot someone and remain hidden.

Also with the fresh organic material under his fingernails, and evidence that Rob was in a struggle, it appears to me that ne3 is the other person.

So that is my opinion right now, it was die_hard and ne3.

Fr0z3n
11-03-2007, 4:17 PM
All these statements back up froz3n's alibi of him being in the restaurant eating when Rob got murdered.

While I appreciate the collection and condensation of the various statements pointing to my innocence, I do wish the truth to be out in the fullest; And so, I feel compelled point out that I was not "eating" but merely waiting on my date. :facts:

Werty
11-04-2007, 12:04 AM
... I think the Jury needs something yo do while we wait, 'cause this is pretty god damned boring. :ahe:

Crabstick
11-04-2007, 1:13 AM
Jury members should be making notes as to what's been presented and draw their own suspicions as such

I have a hunch about who will be killed off next, assuming the killer's being as methodical about it as I think.

blltmssgy
11-04-2007, 7:48 AM
The killer seems to be killing off people who haven't said much or anything, unless that is just a coincidence.

ne3
11-04-2007, 8:52 AM
This game turned into a boring and cold soup, if you know what I mean.

Grim
11-04-2007, 8:56 AM
If people want, I could make a different one. One that is more like the werewolf game.
*goes back to being dead.*

Coconuts
11-04-2007, 11:21 AM
Anyone have any suggestions on how to make this game more interesting? I'll try my best seeing as I want you guys to enjoy this.

Crabstick
11-04-2007, 11:26 AM
The game seems to be based mostly on what you come up with each round. The jury members do basically nothing, and the lawyers and suspects are just kinda throwing blame around.

Not really sure how to fix such things, but hopefully someone else does.

bizzle
11-04-2007, 11:43 AM
More clues and evidence. More interviews based on fact not stupid made-up shit.

blltmssgy
11-04-2007, 11:45 AM
I know of a game called mafia, where you have a certain number of mobsters (depends on total number of people playing), an investigator, a doctor, and townspeople.

The game goes like this, the mobsters would tell whomever is running the game who they want to kill, then the investigator asks the moderator (pm) if someone is a mobster, the moderator tells them yes or no, then the doctor tells the moderator who he wants to save, and if he picks the person who was killed, then they get saved. Then the moderator comes up with a really creative way for the person to die, posts it, then the townspeople say who they think is the mobster, and the person with the most votes dies (investigator, doctor, and mobsters die too).

The mobsters know who each other are, and they discuss who they want to kill off each round.

This game is really only fun if someone is good at coming up with creative, funny, and gruesome ways for people to die.

Coconuts
11-04-2007, 11:52 AM
More clues and evidence. More interviews based on fact not stupid made-up shit.

It's hard to make real information about a made up game. I included the truth about how die hard03 is harassed in the spame. I'll try and make it more about the forums, but I don't know everyone all that well.

Werty
11-04-2007, 12:18 PM
Bllt, that sounds an awful god damned similar to Werewolves. .. I like it. But, I think we should finish this game before we start up another, you know?

Con-Con
11-04-2007, 1:08 PM
I know of a game called mafia, where you have a certain number of mobsters (depends on total number of people playing), an investigator, a doctor, and townspeople.

The game goes like this, the mobsters would tell whomever is running the game who they want to kill, then the investigator asks the moderator (pm) if someone is a mobster, the moderator tells them yes or no, then the doctor tells the moderator who he wants to save, and if he picks the person who was killed, then they get saved. Then the moderator comes up with a really creative way for the person to die, posts it, then the townspeople say who they think is the mobster, and the person with the most votes dies (investigator, doctor, and mobsters die too).

The mobsters know who each other are, and they discuss who they want to kill off each round.

That sounds exactly like the Warewolf game except the saving part
This game is really only fun if someone is good at coming up with creative, funny, and gruesome ways for people to die.

Grim
11-04-2007, 1:23 PM
I know of a game called mafia, where you have a certain number of mobsters (depends on total number of people playing), an investigator, a doctor, and townspeople.

The game goes like this, the mobsters would tell whomever is running the game who they want to kill, then the investigator asks the moderator (pm) if someone is a mobster, the moderator tells them yes or no, then the doctor tells the moderator who he wants to save, and if he picks the person who was killed, then they get saved. Then the moderator comes up with a really creative way for the person to die, posts it, then the townspeople say who they think is the mobster, and the person with the most votes dies (investigator, doctor, and mobsters die too).

The mobsters know who each other are, and they discuss who they want to kill off each round.

This game is really only fun if someone is good at coming up with creative, funny, and gruesome ways for people to die.
I was thinking of doing that game. But having one mobster. To make it a little harder. Thats how I play it in real life. (We use playing cards to "tell" us who each person is.) And sometimes we have it so that the Mafia/mobster can kill him/her self.

Fr0z3n
11-04-2007, 1:50 PM
Bllt, that sounds an awful god damned similar to Werewolves. .. I like it. But, I think we should finish this game before we start up another, you know?

I concur. Abandoning a game right in the middle sets up a bad precedent.

Audioslave
11-04-2007, 2:15 PM
Oh hey, this is the perfect place to discuss having another game :indiff:

blltmssgy
11-04-2007, 4:48 PM
I'm sorry frozen and audio, it was just brought up, but I have been doing my best to keep this thing going (participating and all).

jewishjosh
11-04-2007, 5:02 PM
I haven't been saying much because I feel like the jury members have been doing most of the questioning, which is not their prerogative. Of course, there's not much work for me (for now) since most of you are pretty convinced that my client is innocent, and given this:
RULES:
-The suspects and lawyers can't imply other suspects.there's not much for me to do. Perhaps a clarification of the rules and procedure is in order?

Once this wraps up I'm all for Mafia. The werewolf premise gets a little bit old after the third time.

DieHard
11-04-2007, 9:14 PM
So, are we going to finish this or keep talking about what we are going to do after it's done?

Crabstick
11-05-2007, 12:10 AM
So, are we going to finish this or keep talking about what we are going to do after it's done?

Diehard is trying to get out of the game. I bet he's guilty.

Zebbs
11-05-2007, 1:09 PM
I'm guilty..




..of thinking this game sucks.
There's too many loopholes and its too open.

Audioslave
11-05-2007, 1:16 PM
THEN GO AWAY.

Coconuts
11-05-2007, 4:14 PM
Ok, seeing has this has turned into epic fail, this will be the last round to guess the murderer and the accomplice. The imply other people rule is gone.

The victim was shot 3 times.

Cbizzle was in the building opposite the building die hard03 was found in.

There is no gunshot residue on the clothes.

Con-Con knows the perfect grip to hold a person in place, via boxing lessons.

Fr0z3n was jelous of how everyone loved Rob and that when they hung out with everyone, people only payed attention to Rob.

Ne3 had harassment issue and was being called guy3, an exile from Explosmland. No one stepped in, he felt he had a bad rep for no reason.

Die Hard had always felt depressed, no one like him, no one did anything. Complaining to the police didn't help. In a society based on popularity, he fell.

Cast your two votes and see how it goes. I will make a story after.

Audioslave
11-05-2007, 5:19 PM
My client may know a perfect hold position, but so does Ne3, seeing as how they did all sorts of activities together (ballet on monday, boxing on tuesday, yoga on wensday, etc.)

Shagg
11-05-2007, 5:21 PM
God Dammit Audio.. just God Dammit.. :blanky:

Shadowpriest
11-05-2007, 5:37 PM
Where do we place our votes?

Crabstick
11-05-2007, 8:14 PM
My vote is for Con-Con. There's too many loose ends in his story. However, he didn't act alone. I believe he had assistance from his long-time friend and lover, Froz3n.

Also, the first two jury members killed off were the first two to post. I'm guessing History would have been next. Of the suspects, these two seem the most methodoligical.

History
11-05-2007, 9:32 PM
I vote Con-Con and Cbizzle, based on the last set of clues. I'm guessing that no gun-shot residue on Rob's clothes mean that he was not shot at point blank range. Cbizzle and diehard were in buildings that were within range to shoot. I picked Cbizzle, because the first set of clues said she heard about the crime on the radio, meaning after the body was discovered. I wouldn't stick around the scene of a crime if I was the killer, so she was already on her way off the premises. Plus if diehard was depressed and unpopular, who would really want to be his accomplice? I think Con Con was there during the shooting, and he detained Rob long enough for Cbizzle to deliver the fatal shot.

jewishjosh
11-05-2007, 10:39 PM
Fr0z3n was jelous of how everyone loved Rob and that when they hung out with everyone, people only payed attention to Rob.

Objection, your honour. All Explosm newbs come in with an inferiority complex and an unentitled sense of importance. While it is true that my client had known Rob in real life for a year prior to joining the forums, everyone begins on a level playing field on the internet, and everyone in this courtroom should know that all too well.

Members of the jury, you can hardly fault my client for envying Rob's artistic talent, I'm sure many of you feel the same way. But would it be a great enough motive to kill, you ask? Of course not. What would my client have to gain by murdering Rob? Absolutely nothing. He would still have to work his way up the forum food chain and attract positive attention to himself if he hoped for elitification someday. Nothing attracts negative attention like murder. Likewise, on these forums, nothing attracts negative attention like shit posts and AOLisms such as these ones: (1) (http://forums.explosm.net/showthread.php?t=13370) (2) (http://forums.explosm.net/showthread.php?t=13267) (3) (http://forums.explosm.net/showthread.php?t=13285) (note the offenders' post counts and join dates). There has been no evidence to indicate that my client would be so rash as to act on impulse and make a scene like that. Moreover, my client couldn't draw a stick figure to save his life. If anyone at Explosm could benefit from the death of Rob, it would be Dave, Kris, and Matt, not Fr0z3n.

I believe he had assistance from his long-time friend and lover, Froz3n.
My client has never testified that he knew Con-Con prior to the incident. They met at the scene of the crime. I strongly urge you to reconsider before jumping to such a hasty conclusion. In fact, there has been no evidence to prove that my client, a complete newb, could have been working with any of the other suspects. For instance, ne3 and Con-Con knew each other prior to the murder through, er, extracurricular activities. I would like to remind the jury that two of the suspects are guilty, and they were working together.

I wholeheartedly believe that you, the members of the jury, will acquit my client because there is simply not enough evidence to convict him and his alibi sufficiently explains whatever loose ends you may find. As you all know, innocent until proven guilty.



Also, nice try Coconuts, it was a great idea for a game but I think it needed a bit more thought beforehand to work out the kinks.

blltmssgy
11-06-2007, 10:33 AM
I enjoyed this Coconuts, but I guess not enough other people did, but it was a good try.

My vote goes to Con-Con who never seemed to get out of prison and make a statement (much more than a misdemeanor I now assume), and whom I was beginning to think was innocent, but the perfect hold tells me otherwise. My other vote goes to Die_hard03 who was alone in an empty, abandoned building when the cops found him. He could have easily gotten rid of the gun before the murder took place, and since there was no gunshot residue on Rob's clothes that means that the murderer was far away when he shot Rob, and Die_hard was in a building above him.

Werty
11-06-2007, 2:46 PM
Con-Con and Fr0zen

Shit, at least you tried Coconut. I mean, it was a good idea, but, seriously, do ideas ever turn out as you planned on Explosm?

Con-Con
11-06-2007, 3:05 PM
Looks like everyboby is suspecting me,even tough I can't blame ye nearly all the evidence points to me.But I can assure ye I not the Murderur.I'm pretty sure it was Ne3 though.

Crabstick
11-06-2007, 3:14 PM
Looks like everyboby is suspecting me,even tough I can't blame ye nearly all the evidence points to me.

Plus you have a shifty lawyer. I'd suggest getting a new one if you commit any future crimes.

Shadowpriest
11-06-2007, 7:51 PM
Vote goes to Con-Con and Die_hard, just because the evidence points straight toward Con-Con, though Die_hard doesn't have as much incriminating evidence... though the most after Con-Con.

green rubber bands
11-06-2007, 8:46 PM
Con-Con and Ne3. 1) Because of the enourmous lenghts that Audio went to seperate them, and 2) because they both seem a little shifty.

Audioslave
11-06-2007, 8:50 PM
I have a confession; I do not know who did it.

What do I know? Con-Con didn't.

There is a small amount of circumstancial evidence that points to him, yet there is nothing concrete. Does my story not check out? If it does, then by default it is better than Ne3's, considering he really doesn't have one.

davidmanman
11-07-2007, 2:29 PM
I vote for Diehard and Cbizzle.

Shadowpriest
11-07-2007, 3:28 PM
I have a confession; I do not know who did it.

What do I know? Con-Con didn't.

There is a small amount of circumstancial evidence that points to him, yet there is nothing concrete. Does my story not check out? If it does, then by default it is better than Ne3's, considering he really doesn't have one.

How are you sure he didn't do it? He can lie to you. (Right?)

blltmssgy
11-07-2007, 3:55 PM
Yeah the suspect is not supposed to tell his lawyer if he did it.

davidmanman
11-07-2007, 7:04 PM
He didn't actually tell him that he was innocent, Audio is just analyzing the evidence given.

Shagg
11-07-2007, 7:08 PM
He didn't actually tell him that he was innocent, Audio is just analyzing the evidence given.

What are you talking about? Audio is basically MAKING the stories and the evidence as he bullshits his way along. It is clear to the jury and the judge that Con-Con must have had a hand in Rob's untimely murder.

davidmanman
11-07-2007, 7:26 PM
I meant to say that Con-Con didn't tell Audio whether or not he was innocent, like Shadow thought he meant, and that instead he was just the evidence, whether it be fabricated by himself or not to determine that his suspect is innocent.

RabidMonkey
11-08-2007, 4:12 AM
I really don't get this game sorry. It isn't making any sense to me. It doesn't seem to have proper organisation. And I'm confused.

Crabstick
11-08-2007, 5:44 AM
I really don't get this game sorry. It isn't making any sense to me. It doesn't seem to have proper organisation. And I'm confused.

You don't need to get it. Just vote on who you think is guilty.

PS: Sign up for my game

Con-Con
11-08-2007, 12:34 PM
Just so you guys know I never told audio if I was guilty or not so or all your reasons says the lenghts he want to you can now take them back and vote for someone else.

Spastic
11-08-2007, 1:11 PM
I vote Con-Con.

Coconuts
11-08-2007, 3:45 PM
The votes are in!

Con-Con is found guilty of 1st degree murder, assault and conspiracy and die hard03 is convicted of assisting the in the murder and conspiracy.

Good job, you've been able to crack this case, Although...

Con-Con did not kill Rob, die hard03 did. Die hard03 sniped Rob while Con-Con held him in place. A fairly innocent man has died, while the murderer has got 25 years to life.

Edit with story will be in.

green rubber bands
11-08-2007, 3:48 PM
We were close...

Shadowpriest
11-08-2007, 3:57 PM
Atleast we got the right guys. Just not in the same order.

Audioslave
11-08-2007, 3:58 PM
Fuckin' told ya so.

Shadowpriest
11-08-2007, 4:00 PM
You were still defending somebody who was guilty.

green rubber bands
11-08-2007, 4:02 PM
Fuckin' told ya so.

No, you said he was innocent, which he wasn't. And if you weren't such an unconvincing lawyer, nobody would've voted to convict him in the first place.

jewishjosh
11-08-2007, 4:07 PM
Damn, I almost wish Frozen had been guilty. Then I would've kicked everyone's asses.

blltmssgy
11-08-2007, 6:11 PM
Who was right, this whole time I said die_hard03 was the murderer.

DieHard
11-08-2007, 7:48 PM
Well, rob deserved it :mad:

blltmssgy
11-08-2007, 7:55 PM
If you become an infected one in the next game, die hard, if I were you, I'd turn me into a penguin.
For revenge, and just for shits and giggles.

Crabstick
11-08-2007, 7:59 PM
Well, rob deserved it :mad:

For the record, you're a lousy shot. 3 shots to kill him with a sniper rifle from across the street? You trying to take out his kneecaps first or something?

RIP Rob, we burned a semi-innocent man in your memory.

RabidMonkey
11-08-2007, 10:47 PM
Maybe he just likes overkill.

junglebunny
11-08-2007, 11:55 PM
It was I, Assassin!!

Audioslave
11-09-2007, 6:21 AM
No, you said he was innocent, which he wasn't. And if you weren't such an unconvincing lawyer, nobody would've voted to convict him in the first place.

Well if the game was built with some sort of structure so that the lawyers had some rat's-ass of an idea of how to prove their client innocent, it would be much better.

In an actual court case, there's this thing called evidence.

Con-Con
11-09-2007, 11:14 AM
It sucked being a suspect you had no real reason to post and if you did people would probebly think your guilty.

Also 25 years,and all I did was help.I hope yer happy.At least watching Prisonbreak will come in handy.

Crabstick
11-09-2007, 12:27 PM
Also 25 years,and all I did was help.I hope yer happy.

Actually, you got the death penalty. Tough luck old chap.

DieHard
11-09-2007, 1:02 PM
For the record, you're a lousy shot. 3 shots to kill him with a sniper rifle from across the street? You trying to take out his kneecaps first or something?

RIP Rob, we burned a semi-innocent man in your memory.

I wanted him to SUFFER

Grim
11-09-2007, 1:41 PM
And you killed me for no reason. Unless you killed me 'cuss I was silent.

DieHard
11-09-2007, 1:49 PM
I killed you to lead the trail away from me, because you thought ne3 did it, so I thought people would think he did it.

Far
11-09-2007, 2:23 PM
Is this train wreck over yet?

Coconuts
11-09-2007, 2:31 PM
I'm writing a full story for this trial, once I post it, feel free to do whatever you want with this thread.

Far
11-09-2007, 2:34 PM
I'm just going to unsticky it and leave it open now.

Coconuts
11-09-2007, 3:38 PM
The back story:

It was time for their acting lessons. Cbizzle smiled, she always loved acting with Rob, especially the lovey-dovey scenes. She had offered him "private lessons" to help, seeing as he was a beginner. The class went on, her heart pounding. This lesson was a comedy skit called "Serion vs. Skreb". Rob moved gracefully, as always. Ballet was his specialty. Cbizzle always noticed these things. The class was soon over, and she was waiting for their "private lesson". Back at her appartment, she invites the man in. She beckons for a kiss.

"Uhh, no," says a bemused Rob.
OH SHI-, she thought, "What's wrong?"
"I have a girlfriend, Sugabe," he said, matter-of-factly.
"Oh, your deputy is your mistress, is she?" Cbizzle snarled, "All those lovey dovey infractions, those oh so arousing permbans? I know, the only reason she's a supermod anyways is because she's doing you. GET OUT!"
Rob's face flushed, "How dare you say that~! I'll leave."

He slammed the door and left.

Cbizzle thought to herself, "If I kill Sugabe, he'll have me! Hehehe... but, will he love me if I do? If I can't have him, no one will!"

Rob decided he needed a stiff drink. He decided to go to the bar with buddies Kris, Matt, Dave and Fr0z3n. They decided to go to a comedy club in the Showcase/Showdown area. A regular Comedy man, Ox, stepped to the stage.

"Why did the woman cross the road?"
"Why," another regular, who had the juxtaposition of being named "Urser" and not "User",shouted.
"Never mind that, why is she out of the kitchen?" Said Ox, a sense of pride on his face.

lol.

The crowd exploded, because Ox is Ox, hence he is hilarious.

Rob chuckled, the members of their town always try to impress everyone else. The Showcase/Showdown had its regulars who were seldom seen out of the coffee shops, comedy clubs and design showcases.

Fr0z3n smiled. he had always been close with Rob, even if he had only settled in recently. Rob was always fun to hang around with, Fr0z3n, liked his personality, not just the fact that he was the mayor of the town. He had gone out several times with Rob, Dave, Kris and Matt.

The more he thought about this, however, the more he felt saddened. People always seemed to call out, whistle or hug Rob. Wherever they went, it was Rob who was followed. No one ever took notice of him. He was only known as that guy Rob kept around to look prettier by comparison. More and more thought led to intense jelousy. "What's so great about him?" Fr0z3n thought. "Why am I always left out?". One thought led to another and, "If Rob's gone, maybe people will pay attention to me.

The night dragged on and a not-so-sober Rob stumbled into his mansion in Administrator's Haven.

The next day, he had at least 5 post-its on his head. They all said the same thing:

"Can you please stop the people in the Le Spame area? I recieve post-its every hour, harassing me. Last night I was drugged and buttsexed, the night before I was mugged. Can you stop this?"

Bemused Rob is bemused.

Die Hard, Spame's most recent boy-toy, was getting butt-hurt, literally, over being picked on. Little matters of little people, he thought. new people getting too entitled. Back in his day, people earned respect.

Today was Rob's morning ballet lessons. "Oh good," he thought, "I can try my new ruffled pink leotards." The door bell rang. "Come in," the leotarded man said.

Con-Con entered. He was here to pick Rob up. They had ballet classes together. He had introduced Rob to the fine art of ballet a few weeks ago. Rob was advancing fast, he had surpassed Con-Con by lesson #2. Con-Con was jelous, but what could he do about it? Rob was the owner of Explosmland, and he was just some person who lived in the town.

The two men drove off to ballet. They were learning a new dance.

"Step, kick, swirl, leap!" Shouted ballet instructor Ne3.

Step. Kick. Twirl. Leap. Con-Con had just executed a perfect... oops. He was supposed to swirl not twirl.

"Good job!" Came Ne3's voice. Had he not noticed Con-Con's mistake?

"Thank-yo-," but he didn't get to finish, as he was stopped mid-sentence by Ne3.

"Not you, Rob. He just demonstrated a perfect step, kick, swirl, leap routine. He even added a pirouette at the end for creativity. Good job Rob, you should tutor Con-Con some time."

A small vein in Con-Con's forehead was pulsating. it was enough that Rob was great at ballet, but garnering compliments from Ne3? That was enough. He wouldn't admit it, but Con-Con had a slight thing for Ne3. the graceful movements, the swift agility... He would not let Rob steal his man.

Whap! Another post-it hit Rob in the forehead. "Not Die Hard agin," Muttered Rob. The post-it read: "They've been harassing me all night! They put laxatives in my sandwich and beat me up again. Please stop them." What a pussy, he thought.

Con-Cone bumped into a scheming Die hard. Con-Con didn't dislike Die Hard as much as the others, so he ask what was wrong.

"Rob won't help me and neither will any of the other admins or mods. I've been mugged, beat up, stolen from, drugged and raped. Nothing."

"Rob threatens my love. He draws precious Ne3's sights with his graceful moves. Why me."

Die Hard grins, "I have a plan."

Rob decided he'd like a good discussion over tea and scones with Fr0z3n, so he went the the General District for a bite to eat at the Chiropracter's Coffeehouse, owned by Bad Ankle.

While walking over, he was pulled into an alley by none other than... Con-Con! Con-Con held a struggling Rob in place, boxing lessons had payed off.

Ptoo.
Ptoo.
Ptoo.

Three snipers shots were fired. The struggling body fell.

"You should've helped me," a cackling Die Hard muttered, quite insanely.

Con-Con went in front of the coffee house, where he was met by Fr0z3n.

"What happened?" Fr0z3n asked.
"I heard screams and shots, i'm calling the crime in ASAP."

Ring. Ring. Ring.

"Hello this is Wyatt, head of the police squad of Explosmland, what is your trouble?"
"S-S-S-Someone's been shot!"
"We'll be on our way."

Police cars zoomed to the scene. Well known officers Wyatt, Bad Ankle, Chriz, Sugabe and Infammo stepped out.

"Oh no! Rob's been shot!" Cried Sugabe.
"We'll have to find who did this and punish them harshly, permaban them." said an uneasy Wyatt.
A slighty aroused Sugabe said, " Oh don't get me going with those permabans."

A scream heard and Ne3 burst out of the alleyway.

"I saw Rob get murdered, I didn't see who did it, or how but I heard screams and sort of saw a scuffle."

Wyatt rounded up all suspects for questioning.

After extensive court procedures, the jury finds Con-Con guilty of 1st degree murder, assault and conspiracy, while giving conspiracy and assistance in murder to Die Hard.

Con-Con died semi-innocent, while Die hard spends 25 years in jail.

"I got off easy this time," Die Hard mutters, "All the other admins and mods out there, beware."

I feel slightly terrified after writing an Explosm fanfic from a thread. Especially one involving jealousy, ballet and man love.

DieHard
11-09-2007, 6:01 PM
Wow, I don't get harassed that much.

But still, that was actually entertaining. Good job

Grim
11-09-2007, 10:18 PM
I liked the whole post it to the forehead parts.