I now pronounce you man and robot.

[SlowCheetah]

Alright, so today I had to write a Philosophy test, and part of the test was to read an article and answer some questions. This was the article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/

Basically it talks about the advancements of technology and how it's not crazy to think that by the year 2050 people could be marrying robots. =O

It's not that far fetched an idea either, people already have sex with sex dolls. It's only a few steps forward until they create sex robots. After that people will start getting attached to these robots and want to marry them.

Personally I think this wouldn't really go through. Even if they could create robots that were semi-realistic it wouldn't matter, because the fact of the matter is they're not real people. They wouldn't feel in anyway, and would have no consciousness. I don't know exactly how marriage works, but doesn't there have to be some sort of mutual agreement? How can a robot agree to be married?

Also, the people who would buy these robots would probably have to be pretty rich. I mean, I'm sure the robots would be pretty pricey. So if these people can't get into a relationship because they are ugly or shy or whatever, I think they could do better then some robot, if you have money you can get a girl somehow. Hell, find a prostitute or something.

So, what do you guys think about the subject?

[Matterialize]

I don't think actual marriage with robots will ever be a reality, because they're just pieces of machinery to be owned. As for sex, well... for a woman, a robot would essentially be a giant, automated vibrator. Do modern-day women marry their vibrators?

[MistyTehMoose]

There are technophiles around, who prefer... technical/robotic things to people.

I work at a lasertag centre, and there was a man who came in and he would always have an erection while he was playing. The parents were concerned that this man was playing around children and thats why he had a boner, but it was, in fact because of the equipment he was wearing. He used to play there just to get off. Haven't seen him in a while, though.

I wouldn't want to marry a robot... Where's the personality? Also, I like me a real penis.

[Audioslave]

They told us that gay marriage would lead to these things, but did we listen? No! OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!

[Matterialize]

Come to think of it, maybe people would prefer to marry a robot over a real person. The robot could be shaped to whatever you find attractive, and could be programmed to express love and other emotions, AND to be 100% faithful to you. If you think about it, it's the ideal wife/husband.

[Audioslave]

"At first, sex with robots might be considered geeky, "but once you have a story like 'I had sex with a robot, and it was great!' appear someplace like Cosmo magazine, I'd expect many people to jump on the bandwagon," Levy said. He then continued "If there are any single vacuum cleaners out there, I am a 5'11'' bodybuilder with a dark complexion..."

[SlowCheetah]

The only upside I can personally see for marrying a robot is it would come with an off switch. That might come in handy.

[Tweek]

This can only end in trouble.
First there would be normal sex robots, then really flexible ones, and then scat bots, and S&M bots.
Think about it, would you want an army of whip-wielding sex-machines rocking down your street, spewing shit all over the place?

I know I certainly would.

[Crabstick]

If it cheats on you, just unplug it. Then sell it for scrap

If only it worked on real wimmins

[jewishjosh]

The only upside I can personally see for marrying a robot is it would come with an off switch. That might come in handy.

I can see more people marrying robots for the on switch. Why turn off something that you've ordered to suit your desires?

[Crabstick]

I can see more people marrying robots for the on switch. Why turn off something that you've ordered to suit your desires?

So you don't feel bad when you don't care about how their day was?

[MistyTehMoose]

You can program it to not rant about trivial things.

[BadAnkle]

You can program it to not rant about trivial things.

Then why marry it? That's why men propose, to stop the nagging.

It doesn't work, though. It only shows the woman that nagging works. :frown:

[MistyTehMoose]

Can't win, can you.

This reminds me of the ridiculoualy adorable anime called Chobits. It's basically about how in the future people will all have 'Persocoms' which are human computers with customised personalities. This is the main persocom:

http://p-images.veoh.com/image.out?imageId=media-Chobits71182985983.jpg&version=4

I'd bone it.

[Crabstick]

I'd bone it.

Moose on robot action. Post noods of event

[BadAnkle]

I remember reading a short story about a married couple that had personal robotic concubines. The woman's looked like a horse/man hybrid, while the guy's looked like a winged anime schoolgirl. The robots weren't self-aware, or even particularly intelligent. They just responded to verbal commands.

I don't know if I'd want one that could talk. There's nothing I would want a sex-robot for that I'd ever want discussed with anybody. :clint:

[MistyTehMoose]

But if it doesn't talk you could just get a real doll.

[Crabstick]

But if it doesn't talk you could just get a real doll.

Unless you want it to movie around

[MistyTehMoose]

This is true.

[Ziggy St. Valentine]

Man...imagine the freaky shit all the sad, lonely, desperate people in this world could program the robots to do :hmm:
Kind of a disturbing thought really...

[BadAnkle]

Man...imagine the freaky shit all the sad, lonely, desperate people in this world could program the robots to do :hmm:
Kind of a disturbing thought really...

And that is why I don't want my robot to be able to talk. :clint:

[MistyTehMoose]

It ruins the mood.

I'd program my robot to cook and clean my house while I have sex with my real, fleshy partner.

[Ziggy St. Valentine]

At least the robot's vagina would never get so loose that it's like throwing a sausage in a doorway :clint:

[Crabstick]

I'd program my robot to cook and clean my house while I have sex with my real, fleshy partner.

That's just sick. You perv.

[BadAnkle]

At least the robot's vagina would never get so loose that it's like throwing a sausage in a doorway :clint:
I doubt you'll ever have to worry about wearing out any woman's vagina.

[Axidos]

How can a robot agree to be married?

Well, this is basically the crunch. A robot can't get married. To be married, you must agree to marry of your own free will, and robots have no free will, only a set of instructions.
I'm sure that the government could come up with something though, and give it a douchebaggy name like those "civil agreements".


This would be interesting though - people with robot partners. And do keep in mind SlowCheetah that there are some guys in the world who are so ugly or so deep into fetishes (or both) that no amount of money could get them a prostitute.

Actually, speaking of fetishes, I wonder where this will take them? There are certain fetishes you will never hear of in real life because nobody is willing to carry them out - there are fetishes that go so far as mutilation and death. Sex robots will definitely change this, and I wonder how much.

[Ziggy St. Valentine]

I doubt you'll ever have to worry about wearing out any woman's vagina.

Not if shes robotic thats for sure :fap:

[Souldrinker]

Having a wife is about more than sex, people. It's also about cooking and cleaning.

A robot wife that would cook for me and my mates while we watched the footy, then clean up after us with no complaints would get my vote.

[hzac]

One has the nuts, the other has the bolts.

Thats a true partnership.

[Sarge51]

Why, just a few weeks ago I saw an article of having sex with robots, and it just barely touched the subject of marriage.

I don't see marriage happening. But I do kind of see a small amount of people wanting to.



Oh and: Futuristic Sex Robotz.

[Chardon07]

I can see a bunch of 20 + year old Japenese males ordering one. Thats a sad day

[Con-Con]

Gay marridge,isn't legal in most places yet.I can ot see tis happening anytime soon

[Mirrorman]

Gay marriage is grosser than this. But yeah, if robots like these were possible, I don't think people would be marrying them, just using them for pleasure. Lots and lots of pleasure.

[Sarge51]

Actually, I saw on Gizmodo some sort of sex doll that was slightly more robotic than traditionals. I bet in a 5 to 10 years...

[MaxAlcolo]

I can't wait to see the first robot porn website ever created !
But seriously, robot marriage is ridiculous. I don't mind people buying robots to please their own fetishes, but I refuse to recognize someone as married when their wife/husband's capacity to remember things is based on gigabytes.

[jesus juice]

great...years from now when this is all legal, robots are going to be asking for their rights. deja vu anyone *cough*african american rights, womens rights*cough*

[Niki]

great...years from now when this is all legal, robots are going to be asking for their rights. deja vu anyone *cough*african american rights, womens rights*cough*

Hey, nice job being a complete asshole and implying that women and black people having rights is a bad thing.

Anyway, I actually don't see this happening any time soon. If so, the world is fucked. Kinda reminds me of that one Futurama episode.

[jesus juice]

Hey, nice job being a complete asshole and implying that women and black people having rights is a bad thing.

Anyway, I actually don't see this happening any time soon. If so, the world is fucked. Kinda reminds me of that one Futurama episode.

hey hey hey! chill...i didn't mean for it to come out like that. i'm just referring to all the bullshit and violence that came about during the civil rights movements. in all honesty i think its great that african americans and women have rights.

[Niki]

hey hey hey! chill...i didn't mean for it to come out like that. i'm just referring to all the bullshit and violence that came about during the civil rights movements. in all honesty i think its great that african americans and women have rights.

Ohh okay, sorry for misinterpreting it then.

[jesus juice]

eh well in hindsight i probably should have made it more clear.

[instant oatmeal]

This sounds like The Stepford Wives to me.

[SlowCheetah]

Gay marridge,isn't legal in most places yet.I can ot see tis happening anytime soon

If you would have taken the time to read the article or even my post you would have seen that they think this isn't going to happen until around the year 2050.

[Axidos]

hey hey hey! chill...i didn't mean for it to come out like that. i'm just referring to all the bullshit and violence that came about during the civil rights movements. in all honesty i think its great that african americans and women have rights.

I'm not so sure about womens' civil rights, but I hope you realise that during the black civil rights movement, the vast majority of the bullshit and violence came from the side that was saying "no, you can't have rights, you're not people."

Anyway, Robots can't really have rights until they develop some form of A.I., which is very, very far off. There are quite a few logistic hurdles with, for instance, teaching a robot language. Wikipedia has most of the info on this topic.

[EeK··]

As some others have said, mine would be programmed to clean and do chores while I did whatever I wanted. I would marry a real woman and just buy the robot for work. Although girl on guy on robot would make for an interesting threesome. :heya:

[Jallen]

Come here and bend over like a good boy, Bender.

[CnGy]

I would marry Cortana.

[Werty]

Wow. I read about 1/5 of what you said and said "Fuck it." This is ridiculous. I mean, it seems like our idea of marriage is just getting worse and worse. These robots will be nothing more than A) Sex-bots or B) Slave-bots. Seriously, this is ridiculous.

[Poonze]

I'm not so sure about womens' civil rights, but I hope you realise that during the black civil rights movement, the vast majority of the bullshit and violence came from the side that was saying "no, you can't have rights, you're not people."

Anyway, Robots can't really have rights until they develop some form of A.I., which is very, very far off. There are quite a few logistic hurdles with, for instance, teaching a robot language. Wikipedia has most of the info on this topic.

I think the point is that there was still violence, not so much from which side.

Anyways, a robot woman would be a good woman. Cook, clean, and keep she would keep her GODDAMN MOUTH SHUT!

Haha, seriously though, until they make a realistic robot sex toy that looks like either Jessica Alba or Angelina Jolie (DSL lips), then I am out of this.

[Cristo]

This reminds me of the movie "Bicentennial Man" with Robin Williams, and it's not completely implausible. I wouldn't marry a robot though :-/

[KilTehEmos911]

To get into this, you truly have to think about what a robot IS. It is a machine created by human hands to make human life easier. They could perform things like building cars or repairing devices. But, even if robots grew a thousandfold in complicity, they will never be equal with a human being. Women and Africans could fight for the rights they deserved, because they could come to understand that they deserved those right without someone opening their head and literally programming the thought into them. I will only believe that robots truly can become like human beings when a robot that is NOT programmed to believe in its own rights demands to have them. And that will never happen. Robotics are only the stuff of delusional people with God complexes that truly believe they can create something better than themselves. The concept of robotics to better human life would be destroyed if robots would ever be considered part of it. And if the impossible came alive and an AI robot with the intelligence of a human were ever made, where would the demand for rights stop? Would it eventually begin to believe that cars and toasters were similar to it, and deserved the same rights? That would be like a human giving a dog the right to vote. It is ridiculous.

The biggest things that will ever separate humans from robots are these:

1) Flaw. Humans have the ability to make an error and then learn from it. NOT to just try something else afterwards. but to truly comprehend why it failed, and then apply this learning in full. If a robot fails to climb a cliff, it will try the same thing in another way until it succeeds, but then when it comes to another cliff, it starts all over. Humans can look at any problem just like the previous ones they solved, and create a better method of finding answers.

2) Sense of self. Robots do not know they exist. They can say they do, but only if they are programmed to do so by a human. They cannot truly think, just allow 1's and 0's to move in their "brain" until a "thought" is created.

These 2 reasons, above all else, show that robotic spouses are unethical. They will only be used by the hopeless people that would rather marry an X-box than a woman (many of those already exist). Because, they are truly only people that care more about how something can serve them or make them happy then to TRULY know what the concept of love means.

And after robot marriage, comes robot sex. Is it even really sex? All you would truly be doing is sticking your dong into a hole, albeit one that moves around and makes sound. Does the robot fell pleasure in turn? Or does it just make sounds that emulate the ones humans make when they ell pleasure? Its not sex, its just glorifies masturbation.

There will always be human beings claiming that robots should have rights of their own, but I also think that Africans fighting for their rights from slavery and women fighting for their right to vote is important. It teaches people in general that the ones who deserve their rights are the ones that comprehend what they are, why they deserve them, and are willing to fight for them.

[takesoffhat]

Could you get arrested for spousal abuse? If not, I'm in!

[hipeechic]

This puts a whole new spin on the Bi-centennial Man movie...

[SlowCheetah]

The thing that struck me as really wierd in the article was this:

Levy is currently writing a paper on the ethical treatment of robots. When it comes to sex and love with robots, "the ethical issues on how to treat them are something we'll have to consider very seriously, and they're very complicated issues," Levy said.

So not only are we talking about marrying robots here, but we're also talking about giving them rights. They have no sense of reality, and are not living in any way whatsoever yet they would have some rights. I mean, imagine being married to one of these robots, and for whatever reason you get pissed off and smash it up or something, then you get charged with spousal abuse. I think that would be pretty fucked up.

[Mr. Crow]

Interesting stuff.

However, a robot could be programmed to analyze the situation, and apply the method that worked to cliffs with similar difficulties.

Humans are just like robots, except to an incredibly advanced degree. We intake input about the surrounding environment, and react based on those factors. The difference between humans and robots is that a robot may only consider a few dozen factors, while humans subconsciously filter millions, maybe even billions of underlying factors. While it's doubtful that we will ever manage to create a robot with a thought process as complex as the human brain's, we are simply too naive and primitive in technological terms to rule that out as an impossibility. There may be, one day, a robot as advanced as a human (it might even be biological and function on chemical reactions like a human being) that could possess enough self-awareness to desire personal rights like freedom and marriage.

We're quite a ways from that, however. You can certainly expect that it won't happen by 2050. The best we'll have by then is an advanced sex doll. Marriage will never happen, because the point of marriage is to be a mutually beneficial agreement between two parties, and a robot can not benefit in any way from that kind of union.

[BadAnkle]

We're quite a ways from that, however. You can certainly expect that it won't happen by 2050. The best we'll have by then is an advanced sex doll. Marriage will never happen, because the point of marriage is to be a mutually beneficial agreement between two parties, and a robot can not benefit in any way from that kind of union.

Actually, I was at a symposium (I love symposia) a few months ago where I heard a paper presented by Dr. Theodore Schick, Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Schick), head of the philosophy department at Muhlenberg College and author of the book, How to Think About Weird Things (http://atheism.about.com/library/books/full/aafprThinkWeirdThings.htm).

He stated that, according to current projections, the scientific community expects that mankind will be capable of making a computer with the same capacity as a human brain by around 2015. By 2050, we'll be able to make a computer with the same capacity as all of the human brains that have ever existed in the history of the Earth.

[Mr. Crow]

They also expected us to have flying cars and colonies on Mars by the year 2000. Scientists are altogether too optimistic.

[BadAnkle]

They also expected us to have flying cars and colonies on Mars by the year 2000. Scientists are altogether too optimistic.

What "They" are you referring to? I think you're confusing scientists with science fiction writers.

The projection I was referring to is not based on the hope that new technology will be developed, but rather on the more or less constant rate at which computing power has increased over time.