I can't decide :wail:

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Well I'm in year 10 and I have to pick my subjects for next year by the end of the week the problem is I can't.
I want either of 2 careers that school can help me with, Veterinary Science OR a graphical designer. I love both things just as much (well I think I do now). Any which way I choose I have to drop music, and both are interferring with each other on my subject list, I really need help to choose it's really getting to me. To clear things up I'm good at both subjects, graphical design is more art and english based and Vet Science is more well... science and mathmatically based.
I'm not sure what else to say to help get a better answer from you all and I can feel and anxiety attack coming because I'm a big girl :wail:
help.

[opn4bzns]

Remember the all important question about vets. Can you watch a animal get castrated without dying of horror? Ask Peliman, he did work experience at a vet or something.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Why yes, yes I can. I do not have a weak stomach at all. Trust me.

[Yancy]

I'm not sure if Queensland's system is all that different from Victoria's or not, however with us if you weren't sure what you wanted to do it was best to cover as many pre-reqs as possible. Vet science and graphic design sound like they have very different pre-req subjects, but don't be scared to mix humanities and science subjects. I had a friend who did a mix of science, humanities and the arts (drama) and she got one of the highest ENTER scores in the school.

In short, as long as you meet pre-requisites for any courses you might be considering, do what you enjoy. It sounds corny but its the only way you will do your best.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

I'll put a link to the sheet we were given after I do the dishes to show you why i cant do both.

[Kwanza]

You're in year 10? You still have 3 years to decide, to stress so much over it. Take a graphic design related class this year, and a, uh, veterinary class next year.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

You're in year 10? You still have 3 years to decide, to stress so much over it. Take a graphic design related class this year, and a, uh, veterinary class next year.

It doesnt quite work like that here, you need a pass in certain classes to get into classes in year 11, and same for 11 to 12 then uni and you need pre-requisites for that.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2026/arghyr11dk6.jpg

Yeah that will give you a general idea, underlines are for graphical design and cidlces are for vet. Well the most important subjects for them at least and stars are for what I know im doing.

[Yancy]

Wow, so many restrictions. When I did VCE the only rule other than how many units was that we had to do english.

If I'm reading the form right, it seem the main thing you can't decide on is between biology and information technology studies. Is info tech a requirement for graphic design in your state, or just a recommendation? Because if it isn't necessary for uni I would go with biology. I can't imagine you would be able to get into vet science without biology.

And what is graphics in block six? Is that not relevant?

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Wow, so many restrictions. When I did VCE the only rule other than how many units was that we had to do english.

If I'm reading the form right, it seem the main thing you can't decide on is between biology and information technology studies. Is info tech a requirement for graphic design in your state, or just a recommendation? Because if it isn't necessary for uni I would go with biology. I can't imagine you would be able to get into vet science without biology.

And what is graphics in block six? Is that not relevant?

Graphics could (? maybe its more drawing and graphical design is more computer related, advertisement stuff ect...) help but it's not needed, and info tech is the main thing for graphical design.
They bought in these "columns" pretty much this year :indiff:

[Yancy]

Yeah that column thing looks like it sucks a lot. I guess I was lucky at my school we got a lot of choice. A similar sort of thing happened to my cousin, but she wasn't able to do what she wanted at all. Her school clashed biology and physical education, and she needed both to get into human movement.

If it were me and I genuinely couldn't choose, I would probably go with the science angle. From what I've heard it is still possible to get into graphical design courses as a mature age, even if you don't have the pre-reqs. Vet science is one of those things that if you don't have the science background you can't go back. Thats what its like here in Victoria, anyway.

[Anchorwoman]

I went to High School in QLD as well.

I had similar problems to you when I was in year 10 picking my subjects for 11 and 12. I would choose the subjects for the one you want to do most then if after a semester you decide you want to, change. Remember, you can do extra units at university for pre requesite subjects you didn't do at school as long as you have the right OP/Entry score.

I wanted to do Sciences and Hospitatilites and they clashed. So I check all the unit materials for pre-reqs and found if I didn't do Chemistry at school, I could spend a semester at uni doing Chemistry along with the Marine Bio Science units I wanted to do if I decided to go down the science path.

I am pretty sure that you can do a part-time course outside of school that will over your Information Technology Studies and be recognised at Uni as well, so that will solve the delimea of Biology or ITS...

And as Yancy said it IS easy to get into graphical design once you are in the Uni system. Can pretty much change to any course you want as long as you are willing to do the extra units to get you up to speed.

I know a guy that has been at University for the last 15 years and he has a degree in a for almost every field. He just keeps changing his mind and doing the extra units needed to catch up. Once you are in the system you can change all you like.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Yeah, if i dont choose science im fucked forever with it really but I dont know if i should do that or graphical design yet.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

I live in Ayr...... there is literally nothing here, the only tafe courses they offer are mech' ones, hospitality and child care stuff. Seems fitting as here they have cars, some shops and ALOT of pregnant teens :/

[Anchorwoman]

High school Biology is pretty basic, you should look into the possibility of doing an extra unit at UNI to cover it. It is definately a possibility, as I said I was going to do that with Chemistry because it clashed with doing catering (wanted to either do Marine Biology or be a Chef).

Which Universities are you going to apply to? You should move to Brisbane and apply to QUT (hehe I went there for all of 1 semester before dropping out to be a secretary haha)

[TravisElliot]

I'm doing Year 11 in Brisbane right now. But for Veterinary Science or Graphic Design, I recommend
English, Maths B, Maths C, Biology, Graphics, and ICT,
OR
English, Maths B, Chemistry, Biology, ITS, and Modern History
Always good to have a well rounded education.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Read the sheet I linked please to understand my dilemma. Also to Anchor Woman Im probably going to JCU.

[Pelican Man]

Remember the all important question about vets. Can you watch a animal get castrated without dying of horror? Ask Peliman, he did work experience at a vet or something.

Yeah, I watched a leg amputation, and it was awesome.
Then there was a male dog getting desexed and I nearly fainted. Sucks because that's the second most common procedure.

If you're equally serious about both, you need to look at whether you can DO the maths and science subjects. If you think they'd end up being too hard for you, go for the arts subjects.
If not, do the maths and science, use leftover subjects for art.

Because you can get into a decent art course just by passing year 12 and showing a folio, whereas to be a Vet, you NEED those subjects.

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Valid point peli. I could do both subjects because well I'm brilliant and I'm equally passionate. I do need to think of a way around it.

[Mr. Crow]

because well I'm brilliant

That's a lot of ego, considering that you forgot two commas there.

Go be a vet. If you're equally passionate about both, do the one that will give you more money.

[Tweek]

I don't want this to come across as threadshitting, but just become a wizard.
Seriously, just screw everything and live your life. Grow a giant beard and wear robes.
I'm not sure if that's practical advice or not, but that's pretty much my goal in life.
I'm just that sort of person, though.

Which are you better at? While you may love both, one of them you will clearly be better at.

[Spoons]

I think you should look into doing some work experience in both of them.

Most schools have a career counselor they should be able to hook it up for you.

[beermonster256]

Don't know what it's like over in Oz, but here in the UK it's extremely difficult to break into a graphic design career. One of my friends has been forced to go down the route of starting his own company as he couldn't get anything anywhere else, so now he has the struggle of getting his company known, never mind actually getting any work. My point is basically to consider the future beyond university and the prospects that each course throws up.

[Cristo]

Vet Science is a long and arduous course, and it's a lot harder to get into Uni to study it whereas Graphical Design is usually easier.

I'm not saying Art is easy I'm just saying for Medicine the demands are very high, I'm just saying if you're not the brighest one in your year go for Graphic Design it'll be easier to get in to Uni with. You won't need as high grades in your other subjects as you would Vet Sci and you'd have more freedom to choose what subjects you'd actually like to do rather than Biology and Chemistry and Maths Higher etc.

[Con-Con]

Just sit down and do a pro's and con's list and what wins and see is that what you really want to do

[jewishjosh]

Wouldn't it be great if they offered the same courses in multiple blocks?

I'd go with vet science for two reasons. One, if you close the door on science now, you're fucked. Two, you can't teach yourself to be a vet, but there are other ways to learn graphic design.

[TireVengeance]

Fuck'em both, take culinary arts. Speaking of, shouldn't you be in the kitchen?

It's getting out of hand when they start thinking they can speak while men are holding conversations.

[The Fetus]

Yeah, a vet (in my opinion) might seem better, but a computer engineer would be pretty interesting. You don't really have to worry as a sophmore. But I gotta say, I know what you mean when you can't decide. I don't know if I want to be a writer or an artist. I guess I could be both with comic books! :D

[JennaHs_bitch#1]

Well I finally decided, and came to the conclusion that I dont think I could spend about 10 years of my life trying to be something I might not even suceed at so I decided to go for the art route whilst still taking chemistry. It keeps my options open, even though it's aimed at the graphical design. Most things in science and medical type careers only need chemistry and maths b so I guess I wont be a vet but maybe something else. Thanks for all your help, really.