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Okay, I have a couple of complaints I wish to make about being TO'd. I'm not sure if they've already been brought up already.
1. Inaccurate Times
Okay, this one should be fairly easy to fix. When you go to the site, a message is brought up informing you of when the ban will be lifted. For some strange reason though, it just rounds it off to the hour your ban will be lifted. For example, if your ban will be lifted at 7:37am, the message would just say 7:00am. What's with that? Is it so people don't hang around waiting for their ban to be lifted? :whale:
2. Can't View The Comics
This is a big problem... sorta! Basically, you can't view the actual Explosm comics without clearing your cookies, so the site doesn't know it's you who's logged in. It's such a fuss to clear your cookies then log in again on every site you visit! Shouldn't a TO only apply to the forums?
RabidMonkey
11-02-2007, 2:30 AM
I could view the comics when I was banned, I just couldn't access the forums. You're doing something wrong, somehow :indiff:
My thing with being banned is you can see the reason, but seeing "No it doesn't have anything to do with the thread at all." Doesn't really help, you should be able to see your post that got you infraction too.
InTransit
11-02-2007, 2:41 AM
Urser, the infraction expiry time is actually rounded to an hour. So if you were banned for 1 day at 3.48am, the infraction would actually expire at 4am the following day.
Urser, the infraction expiry time is actually rounded to an hour. So if you were banned for 1 day at 3.48am, the infraction would actually expire at 4am the following day.
Naw. The message said my ban would be lifted at 11:00pm GMT+10:00 (my set time), but my ban was actually lifted 11:51pm. So according to you, it should've said 12:00am, which it didn't. :heya:
Well, I agree with the comic ban, it's really annoying.
I also agree with Rabid, it's annoying when you don't know what you got banned for.
RabidMonkey
11-02-2007, 4:59 AM
What is this bullshit about being banned from looking at comics!? I could look at comics when I was banned. So why can no one else?
What is this bullshit about being banned from looking at comics!? I could look at comics when I was banned. So why can no one else?
Did you clear your cookies? Do you have yourself automatically logged in when you come to the forums, or do you sign in manually?
HAVE YOU BEEN TO'D SINCE THE RESET/CHANGE THINGY!?
RabidMonkey
11-02-2007, 6:24 AM
I have automatically log in on, and my last TO was 5th September 2007 12:38 AM
And I could still read the comics. No I didn't reset my cookies.
Well, it has been two months.
Maybe it's changed since then.
RabidMonkey
11-02-2007, 8:07 AM
Hmm I suppose, I don't know why it would though.
junglebunny
11-02-2007, 12:21 PM
MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT GET INFRACTED AND YOU WOULDNT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS
Beefynick
11-02-2007, 2:54 PM
When I was TO'ed (in August after the reset) I was able to see the comics without resetting my cookies, I could just not see the forum. It might be nice if you could see the forum when you were TO'ed so you could at least see why you were TO'ed and for what thread, but just not be able to post; but it is not that big of a deal.
Matterialize
11-02-2007, 3:13 PM
I also couldn't browse any part of Explosm.net when I was recently TO'd. I guess it's part of the punishment now.
Although, I use Firefox - so if I wanted to view the comics, I'd just fire up the ol' Internet Explorer. That way I didn't have to clear my FF cookies.
Cristo
11-02-2007, 7:14 PM
I also couldn't browse any part of Explosm.net when I was recently TO'd. I guess it's part of the punishment now.
Although, I use Firefox - so if I wanted to view the comics, I'd just fire up the ol' Internet Explorer. That way I didn't have to clear my FF cookies.
Happened to me as well but I was using Opera. I thought to myself "Hey I'll try Firefox" and I did, and it worked. So I think it varies from Browser to Browser.
RabidMonkey
11-03-2007, 4:59 AM
As stated above. "If you didn't get an infraction, this wouldn't be a problem."
Simple eh?
Urser
11-03-2007, 11:52 AM
But the mods and admins these days are like freakin' landmines. Step out of line the tiniest bit, then BAM!
Shagg
11-03-2007, 12:58 PM
I think Urser couldn't see the comics because maybe his home-page was the forums itself or maybe the forums are on his favorite, but not the main page. So when he gets on the site, the whole "You're Banned" thing is goin on, and you can't do anything else but stare at it.
I know cause this happened to me before. And the only way was to clear my cookies, which Urser already said.
I thappened to me. I couldn't access the site in any way from any page. Best thing to do, though, is not fuck up. And if you do and you can't get on Explosm, go outside or something.
Beefynick
11-03-2007, 2:08 PM
And if you do and you can't get on Explosm, go outside or something.
You mean there are other things to do than be on explosm, that is a radical idea. It is not going to kill you if you cannot see the comics for a few days. You can look at what you missed when you get back.
Taerran
11-03-2007, 10:48 PM
What happens is when you get banned, and then try to view forums, the ban reason and info comes up. It also forces you to stay on that page, preventing you from traveling to, say, the forums. thats why once you get the ban screen of doom, you can't see the rest of explosm.
MistyTehMoose
11-04-2007, 4:25 AM
It's a punishment. If you get TO'd, I don't see why the admins are going to go out of their way to make it more bearable for you. Like everyone else has said, don't get infracted. It's not all that tough.
Mirrorman
11-04-2007, 4:28 AM
We should still be able to view the comics, since they're not a part of the forums.
Saturn's Bastard
11-04-2007, 7:17 AM
I'm sure if you type in explosm.net it will take you there. The last time I was TO'd, I didn't have a problem viewing the comics.
Also, Urser "It's such a fuss to clear your cookies then log in again on every site you visit!" If you are like most people, getting a TO is like a once in a blue moon thing. If you are getting TO'd often enough that it becomes a "big deal", maybe there is another problem that has nothing to do with Explosm.
Con-Con
11-04-2007, 10:02 AM
The most thing I hate about being TO'd is being To'd so just don't be an eejit on the forums and this won't come up again.
Pelican Man
11-04-2007, 3:34 PM
It's a punishment. If you get TO'd, I don't see why the admins are going to go out of their way to make it more bearable for you. Like everyone else has said, don't get infracted. It's not all that tough.
This.
Restricting banned users' ability to access any part of the forum keeps it as a punishment. If they're still able to view the forums, just unable to post, it won't seem such a big deal to a banned user.
But there is a problem in the lack of Ban Kamp or similar, giving users no chance to contest their ban.
Not saying I was gunna contest my ban, I deserved that shit.
Tempest
11-04-2007, 6:09 PM
This.
Restricting banned users' ability to access any part of the forum keeps it as a punishment. If they're still able to view the forums, just unable to post, it won't seem such a big deal to a banned user.
But there is a problem in the lack of Ban Kamp or similar, giving users no chance to contest their ban.
Not saying I was gunna contest my ban, I deserved that shit.
Eh, most people who get TOed deserve it nowadays, and if they don't, I've noticed that most explosmers will pick up on it and ask about a ban they think is unfair. The creation of a Ban Kamp at the moment would be somewhat of a waste, as almost all of the TOs that happen are fair, and the other users are becoming better at spotting something they think is unfair and contesting it for people.
Pelican Man
11-04-2007, 6:56 PM
Eh, most people who get TOed deserve it nowadays, and if they don't, I've noticed that most explosmers will pick up on it and ask about a ban they think is unfair. The creation of a Ban Kamp at the moment would be somewhat of a waste, as almost all of the TOs that happen are fair, and the other users are becoming better at spotting something they think is unfair and contesting it for people.
It also gives the person banned a chance to ask mods about rule discrepancies, and would probably save us from those types of threads popping up in the GF/Comment Dump.
Plus, a lot of mods will often substitute a ban reason that explains the user's ban in a way that even the n00bs will get, for something witty which could be misinterpreted/ not understood.
If you're bad, you don't deserve comics.
Tempest
11-04-2007, 9:54 PM
It also gives the person banned a chance to ask mods about rule discrepancies, and would probably save us from those types of threads popping up in the GF/Comment Dump.
Plus, a lot of mods will often substitute a ban reason that explains the user's ban in a way that even the n00bs will get, for something witty which could be misinterpreted/ not understood.
I dunno, I figure that's something the Comment Dump could be used for, along with ideas and such. Gryphon's post in here actually turned out to generate a lot of thoughtful discussion about the racism rule, and cleared a few things up. Maybe it's good for the forum for everyone to be able to see the discussion about rule discrepancies.
Matterialize
11-04-2007, 10:08 PM
I dunno, I figure that's something the Comment Dump could be used for
This forum is not for griping about infractions you got. However, if you think what you did shouldn't be punishable and you have a convincing argument, you can definitely bring it here.
Tempest's correct, Peli.
Besides, most timeouts only last around 1-3 days. Few people stack up enough infraction points to merit longer punishment. Even if you have a great argument about how unjust it is, just wait the duration of the TO and explain it afterwards in this forum. Maybe they'll give you TO credit or something. :hmm:
Crabstick
11-05-2007, 2:19 AM
For example, if your ban will be lifted at 7:37am, the message would just say 7:00am. What's with that? Is it so people don't hang around waiting for their ban to be lifted?
If you wait by your computer for the exact minute that your ban lifts, you need to get out more.
Kwanza
11-05-2007, 10:36 AM
Fixed.
itastenice
11-05-2007, 1:28 PM
fixed
Pelican Man
11-05-2007, 7:01 PM
I dunno, I figure that's something the Comment Dump could be used for, along with ideas and such. Gryphon's post in here actually turned out to generate a lot of thoughtful discussion about the racism rule, and cleared a few things up. Maybe it's good for the forum for everyone to be able to see the discussion about rule discrepancies.
It also generated a lot of "this doesn't belong in the comment dump", hence my uncertainty.
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