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Clerlic
11-07-2007, 8:46 AM
This time here, in Finland.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7082795.stm

Luckily, I live in another city and even if I didn't, I didn't go to school today because was sick.

The Fetus
11-07-2007, 8:48 AM
That's too bad. Now other countries can't go pointing fingers at America. It never mentioned in the article that the kid was a student it just said, "shots fired by eighteen year old man."

Clerlic
11-07-2007, 8:52 AM
Well, some guys in IRC said that he wasn't a student in that particular school. He also had made a diary entry and a video (both of which were later removed by websites that hosted them). I could try to translate the diary entry since I have a screenshot of it.

Iiro
11-07-2007, 8:55 AM
Hiding under a table, brb.

Mirrorman
11-07-2007, 8:56 AM
Wow. It didn't really say much about the shooting, but this sucks. Getting closer to us damnit :argh: .

Assassin
11-07-2007, 9:18 AM
It was I, Assassin!!

Clerlic
11-07-2007, 9:21 AM
Well, I did it anyway, I translated the text.
Here's the original (includes a photo)
http://www.riemurasia.net/others/jokela/ig-paivakirja.png

Translation:
TODAY WE'LL MAKE HISTORY!

Hate, it's what I'm full of and what I love. It's one of the only things that I love. Some time ago I believed in humanit and wanted to live a long and happy life.. but then I woke up. I started to think deeper and question things. But pondering existance wasn't easy... questioning so many things made me unhappy, frustrated and angry. I just can't be happy in this society or reality that I live in. Lots of thinking about existence, observations of our society and other things that happened in my life consequenced in hate against humanity and human race.

Life is just a pointless coinscidence.. after long evolutionary development and multiple other reasons and factors. But life is also about what an individual wants to do with it. And I am the dictator and god of my own life. I've chosen my way. I've prepared to fight and die for my thoughts. I, as a natural selector, eliminating everything that I see unfit, shameful to society and mistakes of nature.

You can ask yourselves why did I do it and what I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and close minded to understand... You'll probably say that I'm "mentally impaired", "insane", "psychopath", "criminal" or some garbage like that. No, the truth is that I'm only an animal, human, individual, dissident.

I've had enough. I don't want to be a part of this corrupt and spoiled society. Like some wise men have said, humanity isn't worth defending... only killing. But... when my enemies runa in fear and hide after mentioning my name... When corrupt government's gangsters have been shot on the streets... When idiocratic power and demorcatic system is replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of idiocratic majority... On that great day of liberation, you'll know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system - that enslaves not only weak minded masses, but also a small minority of intelligent people! If we want to live in a different world, we need to start working. We need to rise against enslaving, corrupt and totalitarian governments and remove all the tyrans, gangsters and idiocratic power. I alone cannot change things a lot, but hopefully my deed will inspire all of the world's intelligent people to some kind of worldwide war and revolution against ruling governments. System that criminalises naturality and justice is my enemy. People that live in the dream world and support the system are my enemy.

I am ready to die for my thing... thing that you know is right, justice and truth.. even if I'll lose or the battle will be remembered as evil... I'd rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that it's all my war, my idea and my plan. Don't blame anyone else for my deeds but yourselves. Don't blame my parents or friends. I've never told anybody about my plans and always kept them in my mind. Don't blame the movies that I watch, music that I listen to, games that I play or books that I read. No, they don't have anything to do with this. This is only my war: one man war against society, government and weakminded masses! No mercy for the filth on earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on it's tracks!

Everyone gets what he deservers

I_Smell
11-07-2007, 9:37 AM
I like the idea behind it, but the execution belittled him to the social status of a psycopath. He seems like a sadly close-minded visionary: All practice, no theory.

Funny, I was getting a haircut today when I heard this on the radio. After hearing about the murderer, the barber said "The world's gone mad." Now I see that, ironically, that's what he was thinking.

WillJ.
11-07-2007, 9:37 AM
Stupid, mentally impaired, insane, psychopathic, criminals when will they learn. Seriously, this guy is tapped in the head and needs seriously sorting out. I mean come on intelligent people rising up against the masses. The masses would win because they wouldn't consider the worst outcome of pulling the trigger or blowing up half a city. They'd just want to win.

Ironically listening to NOFX - Idiots are taking over whilst reading this

Iiro
11-07-2007, 9:47 AM
Saving the world from totalitarian tyrants by shooting up a bunch of school kids. :thup:

This guy sounds like he just read some philosophy for dummies book and wrote all the stuff he thought sounded cool into one speech.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/673/peck4yl3.gif

Tyler_Legrand
11-07-2007, 10:41 AM
I bet he needed a thesaurus

jesus juice
11-07-2007, 10:46 AM
That's too bad. Now other countries can't go pointing fingers at America. It never mentioned in the article that the kid was a student it just said, "shots fired by eighteen year old man."

He was a former student.

"It felt unreal - a pupil I have taught myself was running towards me, screaming, a pistol in his hand."

I wonder what happened in his life to have caused this hate towards humanity...

azunder
11-07-2007, 10:46 AM
The whole thing just seemed a bit cliché to me. Psychopaths should be more entertaining with their monologues, no effort in this one whatsoever and barely any imagination or creativity.

jesus juice
11-07-2007, 10:51 AM
The whole thing just seemed a bit cliché to me. Psychopaths should be more entertaining with their monologues, no effort in this one whatsoever and barely any imagination or creativity.

But aren't they all? Its always about hatred and their horrible life they live.

Clerlic
11-07-2007, 12:45 PM
I found the deleted Youtube videos.
http://www.deletedyoutube.ftvteen.com/?v=FErcNl3Tjh0
http://www.deletedyoutube.ftvteen.com/?v=gSuoQSsY1D8
http://www.deletedyoutube.ftvteen.com/?v=DX-qdMa8lZA

DamnDude
11-07-2007, 1:06 PM
No wonder he went mad, his hair is a fashion disaster.

Panda
11-07-2007, 1:34 PM
I bet he needed a thesaurus
Or at least some spare pencils to draw up plans for his real shooting.

CreamScreamer
11-07-2007, 2:55 PM
I didn't even know they had guns in Finland.

Dr. Gentlemen
11-07-2007, 2:56 PM
I've had enough. I don't want to be a part of this corrupt and spoiled society. Like some wise men have said, humanity isn't worth defending... only killing. But... when my enemies runa in fear and hide after mentioning my name... When corrupt government's gangsters have been shot on the streets... When idiocratic power and demorcatic system is replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of idiocratic majority... On that great day of liberation, you'll know what I want.


Tough words for someone who shot himself in the head like a wimp. I like how he states how he is the natural selector of unfit life and all this revolution garbage yet all he did was shoot some people he didn't like at school. I feel sorry for the victims though, shame that they died by some wannabe revolutionist who didn't even seek the goals he laid out

BBsKey
11-07-2007, 4:01 PM
He makes some pretty good points in his letter.I bet he stole some. Some are just really stupid. But ruins everything with his actions. Just kill youself I you can not stand the world as it is . It is not a shame to quit when you are fed up . But why drag others in ?Fool.

And yeah he relly showed the apple the tree not so much and yeah I loled when he waved to the camera.

P0K3M0N_MA5T3R
11-07-2007, 4:08 PM
I hope he doesn't die from being shot in the head and he spends the rest of his life as a freak with a disfigured face in prison.

Dr. Gentlemen
11-07-2007, 4:13 PM
Kind of fucked up that he is the only one who lives out of everyone shot.

CreamScreamer
11-07-2007, 4:17 PM
The guy just died not that long ago, at least that's what CNN's saying.

DieHard
11-07-2007, 4:18 PM
Wow, another school shooting.

Kids are getting more fucked up head nowaday

Beefynick
11-07-2007, 4:28 PM
That kid is insane. I guess I can understand him feeling that there is no meaning to life, ect but there was no reason for him to shoot anyone else but himself. If he wanted to die just commit suicide. It scares me to think that people actually think like him and think they are "natural selectors."

Crabstick
11-07-2007, 9:20 PM
Idiot. It's not everyone else's fault that you've got a fucked up perspective and brain issues.

The gunman shot himself in the head and later died from his wounds in hospital, officials said.

How do you shoot yourself in the head and not die instantly?

El Mojado
11-07-2007, 9:38 PM
How do you shoot yourself in the head and not die instantly?

Appeartly he was a vegetable for that time.

But really the world is getting worse. Were heading towards fucking disaster, infact my Biology teacher is telling that in the year 2036 that there will be insuffient natural resources for humanity to support it self. Its the end times people, prepare for the apocalpyse.

Tweek
11-07-2007, 9:41 PM
Sometimes the bullet can hit the temple and mushroom, causing severe brain damage rather than death.

Youssef
11-07-2007, 10:25 PM
Finland has the highest rate of gun related deaths per capita outside the US

SlowCheetah
11-07-2007, 11:29 PM
This guy is a fucking retard. I read that thing he wrote, and the fact that he killed school kids has nothing to do, and no significance in any way to what he's talking about. Yeah, the world can be corrupt, and there is definately room for improvement, but how does killing random people help his cause at all? I mean, if he wanted change like he said he did then why wouldn't he kill people that are more part of the problem? I think he was just using all of that bull shit because he's trying to hide what he truly is-- probably even from himself. And that's a Psycopath.

funafona
11-08-2007, 2:57 AM
I, as a natural selector, eliminating everything that I see unfit, shameful to society and mistakes of nature.

I think he pretty much succeeded with that by killing himself. Eliminating the unfit.

Iiro
11-08-2007, 3:31 AM
Finland has the highest rate of gun related deaths per capita outside the US
Not really. And 95% of those are suicides anyway.

Mirrorman
11-08-2007, 9:08 AM
Youssef where did you pull that out from?
Our English teacher talked about this and asked if we we're worried, because it always happens in the states and now suddenly here. The last school shooting was like in the 1990s or something there. :indiff:. That shit is so rare up there. Here also ofcourse.

Con-Con
11-08-2007, 12:55 PM
This made the news in Ireland and it said he had developed a ficination with Hitlor before the incident.He also told people he was going to do it and they thought he was messing.

FlamingPeanuts
11-08-2007, 1:04 PM
Not really. And 95% of those are suicides anyway.

Where did you and Youssef get this information?

Mr Anorexia
11-08-2007, 1:10 PM
I blame America.

Mirrorman
11-08-2007, 1:15 PM
I blame America.

Even tho its "edgy" to blame America, the sad part is that America is famous because of its school shootings. So let's all blame America!

MaxAlcolo
11-08-2007, 1:37 PM
Even tho its "edgy" to blame America, the sad part is that America is famous because of its school shootings. So let's all blame America!

Surely not famous in a good way. :indiff:

McGruff
11-08-2007, 3:05 PM
Did he just wake up one day and say, "hey, if I call myself a natural selector, I can go down in history as a awesome person for killing all the kids that called me a freak in highschool."
It's pretty sad that those people had to die because he went a bit mental.

John Travolta
11-08-2007, 6:47 PM
Even tho its "edgy" to blame America, the sad part is that America is famous because of its school shootings. So let's all blame America!

That doesn't even make sense.

Relaps
11-08-2007, 9:52 PM
Really doesn't. Thats kinda like saying "Germany is famous for its Holocaust and fascist rule trying to take over the world." You're sorta basing the popularity of a country on its faults than what it actually contributes.

Shadowpriest
11-09-2007, 5:39 PM
Really doesn't. Thats kinda like saying "Germany is famous for its Holocaust and fascist rule trying to take over the world." You're sorta basing the popularity of a country on its faults than what it actually contributes.

It may be so, but think about it... Japan would think of America as the country who A-bombed them, and the jews will always think of Germany as the country that wiped out half their religion/race. And America is looked to by half of the world as the world's asshole country.

Its an ignorant way for people to look at other countries but...sadly, its true.

Pyro
11-09-2007, 5:45 PM
I'm pretty sure I haven't even heard of any large scale mass murders in the world except school shootings or terrorist acts. In the news it's nowadays just drunk drivers running someone over or just crashing and then escaping.