Political Correctness

[Crabstick]

Check this (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311797,00.html)

Although it seems fair enough for people to be politically correct, I think that in today's age it's gone too far. There are certain things you can't say, but when people try to ban Santa from saying "Ho Ho Ho" because it may offend women, you gotta wonder where to draw the line.

Any suggestions?

[JW]

They should say "Skank Slut Whore!"

But seriosuly, it's a load a' crap. It's just like them tards not liking the word "hello" 'cause of the "hell" part. It shouldn't offend anyone, and if it does, they have way too much spare time, to think about doing this sort of crap. They should just get over it, and put up with it, like I have to put up with tards such as them.

[social_lawnmower]

Quite frankly it's disgusting.
Jerry Wilson hit the nail on the head with the "hello" comment. How long before we are told that we can't use any words that even remotely connect to any sort of cussing or profanity?
It's a shame when parents are so over-zealous to the point of turning tradition into some sort of sad roadshow and it only reflects badly upon our culture as a whole when people can, and will, sue over the most minor infraction or discomfort.

Obviously as long as we aren't moronic enough to not be able to distinguish between laughter and accused sexual practices then it shouldn't be an issue.

[Christian]

Quite frankly it's disgusting.
Jerry Wilson hit the nail on the head with the "hello" comment. How long before we are told that we can't use any words that even remotely connect to any sort of cussing or profanity?
It's a shame when parents are so over-zealous to the point of turning tradition into some sort of sad roadshow and it only reflects badly upon our culture as a whole when people can, and will, sue over the most minor infraction or discomfort.

Obviously as long as we aren't moronic enough to not be able to distinguish between laughter and accused sexual practices then it shouldn't be an issue.

You make an excellent point (and an excellent post too). With the talk of "ho ho ho" being offensive, it is just plain ridiculous. Soon every word will be considered offensive, and censorship will go overboard, which it already has with this whole ordeal of saying the dreaded, "ho ho ho"...

[Mr. Crow]

Moving this to the General Forum, because it's not much of a debate.

[Casalen]

moronic enough to

Moot?

[Mr Anorexia]

Moot?
Owner of 4chan? hehe

[ryanknapper]

I'm looking forward to the debate what message a fat Santa send to the kids. They'll all think it's "cool" or "keen" to be a fat, old man with too much facial hair! We must protect them from such negative images and nipples.

[Dave]

Its ironic that a comic like C&H is allowed to flourish despite the occasional batch of hatemail, whilst all the easy targets like santa are targetted for completely ridiculous reasons. Political correctness is a phallacy, and fucking disgusting in the sense that it undermines the intelligence of every single person in our society, regardless of country.

[ryanknapper]

it undermines the intelligence of every single person in our society

Not everyone. The super happy soccer moms who dream this shit up, trying to protect people who never felt there was a problem in the first place will love it.

[Oofie]

Offensive words are about the intention of the speaker as opposed to the words themselves. If Santa was saying 'ho ho ho', intending to hurt or degrade women, then fine, ban away. But I seriously doubt that's the case. :indiff:

[bigwhite138]

Well, have a look at this (http://www.myfoxnewisconsin.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=A9043D1A1364AEDF6CF40A2C7A86B6A8 ?contentId=4954808&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)

I don't think I could have made it through my childhood without using that rhyme. Yes, there used to be a different (racist) version, but this is just getting ridiculous.

[calichica0919]

Wow, that is sad. I heard about the Santa thing on the radio and I was like OMG. But then I read that article that bigwhite138 gave us the link to and its like come on!!!!

[Oofie]

That rhyme does involve 'catching a nigger by the toe'. I don't think it's all that absurd that the teacher got suspended for using it in class.

[calichica0919]

Maybe back in the day they said it like that but now a days we say, catch a TIGER by the toe or ive even heard catch a piggy by the toe. are cops gunna get mad about that now???? come on. this is america. we have free speech. im not saying that back in the day when ppl would use the n word is right. i am totally against racism, but the teacher did not mean it that way. he or she was using it to pick a student. i do that all the time, should i lose my job over it or be suspended? i dont think so. i really think the parents over reacted

[calichica0919]

and to add to that, i know for a fact that the teacher did not go on to say "catch a nigger by the toe".

[Beefynick]

I think if you are offended by "ho ho ho" and even the rhyme, you need something to do because you spend too much time thinking about things. If someone dressed as Santa said "ho ho ho" I would not even think that the person is trying to degrade women. People need to find better things to worry about instead of who might possibly be remotely offended by things.

[calichica0919]

I never much agree Beefynick

[John Travolta]

LEAVE SANTA ALONE :mad:

[blltmssgy]

Being a Jew, it disgusts me to see happy holidays in malls and shit. This country (America, because there is no other country) is about 80% Christian, and we should own up to that.
Stores that sell christmas lights and christmas trees should be allowed to say Merry Christmas. How many Jews and Muslims do you see walking in there to buy that shit?
Also I am not a white person.
I am a Jew of German and Slavic descent!

[Pachycephelosaurus]

I think this whole issue is idiotic. Who gives a flying shit if someone's feelings are hurt? It's not the governments' job to keep people's toes from being stepped on. Let the people whine and bitch and moan, who cares? I'm fucking sick of my tax dollars going into b.s. stuff like this.

[Coconuts]

In a politically correct world we'd all be the same and the only color would be rainbow.

Honestly, people get their panties in a bunch over too many things these days. They're the ones taking offence, it's not like anyone was only trying to offend people.

[jKoval]

Where's political correctness and freedom of speech separated? My God we much more important things to worry about rather than Donald Duck not wearing any pants. Or Santa saying 'ho.' Ugghh...

[The Pirate]

Politically correct and logically retarded tend to go hand in hand.
Whenever I tell that to people they say "That isn't politically correct", and I say "But is it logically retarded?". They never, ever have an answer.

Poor Saint Nick, banned for the holidays.

Recruitment firm Westaff — which supplies hundreds of Santas across the country — has told its trainees that the "ho ho ho" phrase could frighten children and could even be derogatory to women.
I find it more likely that when they change it little kids will be like "You aren't Santa!" And start crying.

"HA, HA, HA! MERRY CHRISTMAS!" doesn't really work.

[Santa's anagram]

In Australia, a native plant known as the 'Black boy' had to have its name changed to 'Grass tree' because of PC, and apparently man-holes are now called person-holes. How could anyone get offended by that?

Random-easily-offended-female: Oh my god! Calling this a man-hole obvioulsy means society doesn't expect women to be able go down one. This is most derogatory!

[Furanku]

Never mind the Santas, how many times did that article say 'ho ho ho'? How derogatory! All those Australian Fox news-viewing women are going to feel insulted now. For shame!

[barnesy111]

Political correctness is a phallacy
It's penis shaped?

Anyway, political correctness is ridiculous in the sense that it is over-protected because people are afraid that something might offend someone, even if it hasn't.

EDIT: Also, wouldn't Santa've used the words ho ho ho before it became slang for prostitute?

[ryanknapper]

EDIT: Also, wouldn't Santa've used the words ho ho ho before it became slang for prostitute?

You're quoting prior art for Santa? That's hard core.

[snap1o5]

I personally think that political correctness is horrendous, but I can sympathize with the shop and company owners. Think about it: if you were an owner of a store, you would want to attract as many potential customers as possible, thus maximizing profits. It's the same thing with every product being in several languages. To sum it up, I hate what they do, but I can understand it and would most likely do the same thing in their position. The soccer moms, however, need to get over themselves and realize that not everything in the world is happy and swell.

[gtrst7711]

That is pretty ridiculous. Why break a long standing tradition in order to be politically correct? Same idea with the whole "Happy Holidays"/"Merry Christmas" greetings. I always say "Merry Christmas", and now get this. In my dorm, we're not aloud to say that. A rule that the college board or whoever the hell is in charge came up with. You can get in trouble if you decorate your door or whatever with "Merry Christmas." What the hell is that?

As for the idea of getting rid of "Ho ho ho" to attract more sales, I don't see that working at all. In fact, it seems that it would be exactly opposite of that. If people hear that the store is banning Santa from using his old catchphrase, then why would they go there? That's the attitude that most of the people that they talked to in the article seemed to have.

[TheZombieKid]

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[The Pirate]

ZombieKid, change your posts to something relevant and contributing before you get banned.

Ho wasn't until recently prostitute, and if you whine about it you're just going to make an ass of yourself.

[The Muffin Man]

Damnit. Another one? This is all along the same line as banning dodgeball in school, giving everyone on field day a ribbon for participation, and just complete sheltering. Don't these parents realize that we are humans and we learn from our suffering? If some kid gets hit in the face with ball he is going to try to not get hit again. We are breeding an age of children who will be pathetic because as soon as someone says ho ho ho they are going to file a sexual harrassment case on the spot. This is way too ridiculous. This is just so stupid on all accounts.

And seriously I doubt these parents are letting their children have access to the sources that ho is used in that context. This is utterly retarted. Honestly. GROW UP

[Cristo]

I think we should ban Christmas, and anything that might offend Muslims.

Since apparently they're a ruling power nowadays.

[hoLLow TeaRs]

I think the line was clearly defined when the immigrants made it illegal to say "Merry Christmas" and now say Happy Holidays.

[SlowCheetah]

You guys can't say "Merry Christmas" in the states? I'm pretty sure we can here. Anyways, thats all pretty fucked up, how would you explain that to children?
"Sorry little Johnny, Santa can't say ho ho ho anymore because it's politically incorrect. Now he says ha ha ha!"

[Panda]

If people are offended by "Ho Ho Ho" then you probably are a hoe...

[HappinessMan]

Its gonna get worse throughout the holidays, black people, jews all get offended by christmas taking the limelight.

[Phallus Maxima]

This shit reminds me of the article, I think chris wrote it, about the black boards, and chalk boards (which are offensive to the chalky leprecons of south indonesia).

Come on! I can make you feel degraded and offended for being black, or a jew, or a woman without using any of these words.

The reason why there are so many offensive words for jews and blacks around, is because people wanted to hurt them, notbecause the words were there, and were so fun to use.

Fighting with words is futile and stupid, and it might actually hurt these people's image by making them look like retards.

[Aussie Wristlock]

As if Santa's saying "ho, ho, ho" is the primary focus of Christmas. But holy high hell, these days it may as well be. The very people who created the now shambles of an ex-religious holiday have commercialized it.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike over-political-correctness, and think that their claims are ridiculous, but I don't care either way because people should probably be worried more about teaching something valuable - such as their religion - rather than what a fake Santa says.

As an aside, I'm actually not Christian or religious. I just think it's ridiculous that most folk of said religions go along with the shoddy shambles of a 'religious' and commercial holiday that is Christmas.

[Phallus Maxima]

Fuck it. People who are looking to get insulted,
and these starched up stick up they anuses white collar fucktards who are looking for people who might be offended, will always find a way to make our lives miserable.

"Tabbaco kills 400,000 people a year,
And they ban ARTIFICIAL SWEETERNERS! BECAUSE A RAT DIED!"

George carlin

[tunefro]

I think we should ban Christmas, and anything that might offend Muslims.

Since apparently they're a ruling power nowadays.

I can pretty much speak for all Muslims when i say that we're not offended by anything that has to do with Christmas.

Seriously, it doesn't make any difference with me if it's "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy Holidays!" When someone says Merry Christmas it doesn't mean to me "Have a good one, BUT ONLY IF YOU'RE CHRISTIAN!" So, either way, the fag saying it, just wants you to be happy, whether or not you're celebrating Christmas or not.

And by the way Cristo, the people getting offended in this case are women, not Muslims.

[MJS413]

I hate how at my First Aid Squad we are required to attend "Sensitivity" training if somebody makes a gay joke or says something "inappropriate". So much for freedom of speech.

Right now its "Freedom of speech, but only if you don't offend anyone, therefore you may not say: ho, whore, bitch, ect."

Oh, by the way, "hoe" will no longer be known as a garden tool, the garden tool will now be known as "the device used for turning soil," and the word hose shall no longer be used, a garden hose shall be known as "a device used for watering plants" and fire hoses will be known as "the devices used to carry water from the fire engine to the nozzle in order to extinguish the fire."

[McGruff]

Thats crazy! I am getting pretty tired of everyone being afriad to say something in fear of sounding rude and such. I fully agree, these days everyone is taking "political correction" much too far. Let us say what we want, keeping in mind its really not demeaning of course.

[TrueNightFalls]

Off topic
i felt special for getting the moot reference

on topic
This is a bunch of hooie
i mean words are just words
its getting to the point where its truly ridiculous

[buckfan]

At school my teacher found a list of dead baby jokes and the guy who brought them got detention for it.

Thats messed up, its free speech, even if its not politically correct theres no reason for punishment.

I do think political correctness standards are getting looser though, even if there are lawsuits and rules against it.

[Sarge51]

That's pretty stupid. Some people in the olden says actually used to laugh like that. Maybe not as slow and maybe more than three hos. But still. Seriously. It's a different word. It's technically not a word at all.

Should we ban calling people "Ass" because it would be offensive of Donkeys?

[Musician of cool noises]

That is sad about the santa thing... but in some ways political correctness is getting lighter (but only in some). not that long ago, well a long while before i was born, "damn" was a really bad swear word! it was even censored in old books into "d___". i think one day some swear words might become more acceptable! but then normal words will become the new swearwords.... like laughing like santa.