Best Saga Of All Time...?

[Murder of The Rain Crow]

So the other day me and my friends were arguing about which is the best trilogy/saga ever. In my personal opinion Star Wars is the best. We came out with loads of different options but what do you think is the best trilogy, series or saga of all time? Also say why you think your choice is the best. If you can think of one that isn't in there, sorry it isn't in the voting, but feel free to suggest it anyway.

[Oofie]

I got excited because I misread this and thought it was about Sega games :frown:

But yeah Star Wars. Why the fuck is American Pie in there?

[Mirrorman]

Because there are like 5 or 6 of them at this moment maybe?

[Relaps]

My vote is Rambo, but that's not there. Star Wars.

[Murder of The Rain Crow]

Oh yeah Rambo! Sorry I didn't put that in dude. I like Rambo as well, why didn't I think of that? Duh me! LOL My bad.

[Oofie]

Because there are like 5 or 6 of them at this moment maybe?

But all of them are equally shit :indiff:

[John Travolta]

I don't really like any of the options.

[Love_me_like_a_lion]

Kid Buu Saga.

Out of all of the choices I'd have to say shrek only because all of the movies are short enough to actually enjoy so you can watch it a second time.

[Demoir]

Star Wars without a doubt. Although Lord of the Rings comes second for me.

[Mirrorman]

But all of them are equally shit :indiff:

Yes, they are but its still a saga.

[I_Smell]

Whar is Matrix?

Fuck this poll.

[Shagg]

Kid Buu Saga.


Cell saga for the win. :hmm:

But your poll is missing alot of good trilogies/sagas. You should have put some more thought into it. :blanky:

American Pie? What the?

[Shadowpriest]

Star Wars no doubt. Lord of the Rings comes in second no competition.

And seriously... why would you put in American Pie? It IS a saga but its bullshit... It would belong in a WORST saga poll.

[Crabstick]

Lord of the Rings, because it didn't make 3 extra (bad) movies simply for the commercial profit.

[Clerlic]

Whar is Matrix?

Fuck this poll.

Yeah! The Matrix is a legend!

[AdmiralTrask]

Of all the options there I'd say Rocky. 'Cause that gave me the inspiration to start shaping up a bit.
Matrix is awsome though...

[Demoir]

The Matrix shouldn't really be on there because the 2nd and 3rd films suck complete balls.

[Mr. Owl]

Well, you forgot a huge number of better trilogies and sagas, but the best out of this selection was Star Wars.

[meTalmessiah]

What about Rocky? And the Godfather?

This list is very limited in it's options. In my opinion, I'm tied between LotR and Pirates. Star Wars would be my #1 if you were counting only the original 3 movies.

[Murder of The Rain Crow]

You know, you only get 10 poll spaces, and I used 7, so even if I did put extra ones I wouldn't be able to put many. And by the way, I did think of The Matrix, but Deimor's right, the sequels did in fact suck balls, and so did the Godfather. Hard. and only 45 year old people who can't get laid hate American Pie. True, the three newest films are pretty retarded, but the first trilogy owned ass, at least moreso than The Matrix or The Godfather.

PS. meTalmessiah, Rocky is on there.

[Lady Who]

The Godfather, but as it isn't there i voted Star Wars. Anyway, you guys are right, i didn't think about the las three hideous movies on the saga.

[blltmssgy]

Lord of the Rings, because it didn't make 3 extra (bad) movies simply for the commercial profit.

Dude, he had those written (and 7-9) before he even started making movies 1-3. He planned to make all 9 movies, just be glad he didn't.
But Star Wars got my vote 4-6= amazing.

[Tempest]

Star Wars, but I didn't vote for it because that would include 1-3.

[Quadros]

GODFATHER, YOU NERDY FUCK.

Seroiusly though, this is the nerdiest thread ever. Including the time Matterialize made duct-tape starwars stuff.

[BKS]

I voted Starwars, with LOTR in close second.



No Diehard?

[Grudge)86]

Also no Indiana Jones. That saddens me.

Out of the given choices, I'd have to say Star Wars.

[Shadowpriest]

Also no Indiana Jones. That saddens me.

It also saddens me, I actually find it to be a really good saga.


And is it true that Lucas actually wrote 9 movies?

[Grudge)86]

And is it true that Lucas actually wrote 9 movies?

He wrote nine books, but only six were made and ever will be made (it seems) into movies.

[circlejerking]

Star Trek. Specifically, TNG. I've been into it since I was three and I fell in love with Data. I cried when I was five because my dad told me he was an android and didn't have feelings. :/

I never got into Star Wars. Probably because I haven't seen the originals. I've only seen the last one that had Natalie Portman (I'm pretty sure it was her), and it seemed like there would be no movie if whoever invented the green screen hadn't existed.

Since there seem to be so many fans, though, I'm going to rent the originals. I've read the first book and liked it. Star Trek is always my favorite, though.

[TheInvinciblePunk]

I really like Star Wars and Lord Of The Rings, but I'm gonna vote American Pie, because it really deserves at least one vote. it was an excellent, laugh-a-minute saga (well, the first three movies were at least).

[Spastic]

Nothing has ever come close to Star Wars, and I doubt anything ever will.

[Quadros]

I never got into Star Wars. Probably because I haven't seen the originals.

You're pretty much not a human until you've seen those films. That's as nice as i can be. (You're new, I'm me, this post was an effort, I'll put it that way.)

[gizzalove]

I got excited because I misread this and thought it was about Sega games :frown:

I thought the same thing and got excited to.

I voted Star Wars because it is the most historic. Thats not really the word I was looking for but it will do.

[delboy]

Where the fuck is American Ninja?? And the original Ninja turtles flicks?

I'd vote Star Wars, but it's got enough votes already - so I'll go with pirates.

And only the first American Pie is worth mentioning - the rest sucked huge donkey balls!

[Spastic]

Where the fuck is American Ninja??


Sitting in the crap bin with the thousand or so Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen movies. That doesn't even come close to compare with any of the Sagas mentioned here.

[SladeMadeFilms]

Well, most definitions of saga include that it is a story with "heroes" as its central point, although, one definition does merely state that a saga can be a series of novels (movies) that tracks one particular family or community, so I guess that's where American Pie fits in, but of course, that also leaves the door open for the Godfather.

Based on the presumption that we define sagas as dealing with the stories of heroes and not horny teenagers (American Pie), I would have to limit the selection to

Possible Best Ever: (Every Part is Great)
Star Wars (IV - VI)
Lord of the Rings
Indiana Jones
Pirates of the Caribbean
Bourne Trilogy

Almost: (2 or more good ones, but failed to be 100% awesome)
Police Academy (3 for 6)
Godfather (2 for 3)
Back to the Future (2 for 3)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2 for 3)
Rush Hour (2 for 3)
The Matrix (2 for 3)
Spiderman (2 for 3)
Blade (2 for 3)
Die Hard (2 for 4)
Lethal Weapon (2 for 4)
Highlander (2 for 4)

Crap: (Good starts but should have stopped with one movie.)
Rambo (1 for 3) yet to be seen on part 4
Rocky (1 for 6)
Robocop (1 for 3)
The Fast and the Furious (1 for 3)
The Land Before Time (1 for 13)
Superman ( not sure any of them were good )

Let's not forget Batman. It's hard to put all the Batman films together into one saga though. Tim Burton's 'Batman' and 'Batman Returns' were awesome, but there sequels were just plain horrible. The new take on Batman, 'Batman Begins' and 'Batman: The Dark Knight' seem to be adding some kickassness back to the Batman character. Maybe in ten years or so, the new Batman saga will atop someone's "Best Ever Saga" list.

[commanderkev]

How did shrek get in there? haha

[JonC]

Lord of the Rings, because it didn't make 3 extra (bad) movies simply for the commercial profit.

Lucas didn't make the other trilogy for profit you asshat. He had always planned on making them, he just didn't until he felt technology caught up with what he wanted. Also, it was to make the "circle" complete, because well, you know, it started with the fourth part, so obviously there was three before it.

But, my vote goes to Star Wars. Mainly because its so great, and you can do the most with it. Lucas done it in such a way where its able to be expanded on, which is what he planned back in when Episode IV came out.

Oh and American Pie shouldn't be up there.

[Quadros]

Well, most definitions of saga include that it is a story with "heroes" as its central point, although, one definition does merely state that a saga can be a series of novels (movies) that tracks one particular family or community, so I guess that's where American Pie fits in, but of course, that also leaves the door open for the Godfather.

Based on the presumption that we define sagas as dealing with the stories of heroes and not horny teenagers (American Pie), I would have to limit the selection to

Possible Best Ever: (Every Part is Great)
Star Wars (IV - VI)
Lord of the Rings
Indiana Jones
Pirates of the Carribbean

Fuck off. Pirates 1 was great, but the other two can suck my dick. also a pirate film with the three lead parts being played by women isn't a real pirate film.

[SladeMadeFilms]

Fuck off. Pirates 1 was great, but the other two can suck my dick. also a pirate film with the three lead parts being played by women isn't a real pirate film.

Leading parts played by women? Did I miss something, or is that your clever way of calling Depp & Bloom women? I'm just curious here?

Also, I'm glad to see Pirates is the only objection to my theory thus far.

[iGavin]

Fuck off. Pirates 1 was great, but the other two can suck my dick. also a pirate film with the three lead parts being played by women isn't a real pirate film.

You obviously have no respect for amazing digital graphics and outstanding fight sequences, which by the way the actors trained their arses off to perfect. Dickmuncher.

Pirates gets my vote!

PS. SladeMadeFilms is right. Only one of the main characters is a girl you retard!

[Desert]

Crap: (Good starts but should have stopped with one movie.)
Rambo (1 for 3) yet to be seen on part 4
Rocky (1 for 6)
Robocop (1 for 3)
The Fast and the Furious (1 for 3)
The Land Before Time (1 for 13)
Superman ( not sure any of them were good )

1 for 4. They're making another.


I don't know, I kind of liked the new Rocky.

[JonC]

Is it going to be a straight to dvd liek a lot of "fourth movies" are?

[Cocktapus]

LOTR. The books are ridiculous, the movies are ridiculous, it is just awesome all over.

[Dresden]

Pirates 1 and 3 ROCKED. Two sucked, and thus ruined the trilogy.

Shrek was great and original, but I dunno. They could've stopped after the first one and it wouldn't have bothered me.

Star Wars ... we talking original three or new three? Originals will forever be classic, new ones are SHIT(except for the lightsaber fights).

Lord of the Rings... epic books, even more epic movies. In my opinion, some of the best-made film ever.

never watched star trek, never watched rocky.

American Pie was good, cause, ya know, boobs are always fun. But it really was kinda hokey, if you think about it and are past the age of 17. Just another teen movie with sex humor and gratuitous nudity.

EDIT: I saw some people mention Matrix. NO. The first Matrix was fucking epic. The sequels were shit. Should've quit with the first. Kinda like Lucas with Star Wars

[JonC]

I hate to sound like, a "fanboy", but dammit the hell, Episodes I-III, did not fucking suck. They were just made differently and plus we all knew what it was all leading too since we obviously seen the sequels already. I don't understand why people can't just watch the films for the satisfaction of CLOSURE. I think thats why he made episodes I-III, so it could obviously come full circle and so we could see how Anakin Skywalker turns to Darth Vader.

I swear, sometimes people just don't think, they think shit is supposed to be like the classics/original, when they shouldn't have went in with that expectation.

Okay, I'm done.

[Quadros]

Leading parts played by women? Did I miss something, or is that your clever way of calling Depp & Bloom women? I'm just curious here?

Also, I'm glad to see Pirates is the only objection to my theory thus far.

Depp and Bloom are women. And you didn't include the Godfather in the best ever. Sure III was worse than I and II, but it still kicks the shit out of 90% of all the other films ever made. As for this fuckwad;

You obviously have no respect for amazing digital graphics and outstanding fight sequences, which by the way the actors trained their arses off to perfect. Dickmuncher.

Pirates gets my vote!

You're a fucking dumbass, you know that? The fight scenes aren't 'outstanding' they're good. The fightscenes in the Bourne Trilogy are 'Outstanding'. The fight scenes in the original Matrix film and Fearless are 'outstanding'. The fight scenes in Pirates are good, but nothing particularly special. Wow they're clashing swords on a rolling water wheel. How entirely fanciful and unbelievable. As for 'amazing digital graphics' they're no excuse for halfarsed acting (I'll concede that Depp was brilliant, but Bloom was dull and Knightley was all cheesey lines and hotness). Except in Star Wars.

I also agree with JonC. The new films aren't as good as the originals, but neither are 99% of all other films ever made. The new star wars films are better than the vast majority of other major films of the past decade, and aside from turning Darth Vader, the greatest bad ass in the history of cinema, into a complete pussy there's not much to critisize. Crap acting? Did you even SEE the first three Star Wars films?

[2drunk2fuck]

yeah, watever

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[Dresden]

I hate to sound like, a "fanboy", but dammit the hell, Episodes I-III, did not fucking suck. They were just made differently and plus we all knew what it was all leading too since we obviously seen the sequels already. I don't understand why people can't just watch the films for the satisfaction of CLOSURE. I think thats why he made episodes I-III, so it could obviously come full circle and so we could see how Anakin Skywalker turns to Darth Vader.

I swear, sometimes people just don't think, they think shit is supposed to be like the classics/original, when they shouldn't have went in with that expectation.

Okay, I'm done.

Oh, I didn't expect it to be like the originals. Obviously they wouldnt be. They had 30 years of filmmaking techniques and technology and whatnot between them. Obviously the style of them would be a bit different. I just mean the acting. Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman were fucking awful actors in those movies. I've seen them both in other movies, and they weren't bad in those, but in Star Wars they were just horrendous.

And in the case of Episode I, I need say only three words: Jar Jar Binks. I mean come on... Only thing that saved Episode I was Darth Maul and Liam Neeson. Ewan McGregor was pretty good too.

Just face it. Luke and Leia's parents were pussies.

[THemuse]

well technically the best saga ever would be Family Guy but they would do a movie were they made fun of star wars and Lord of the rings because those sagas dominate

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[iGavin]

I hate to sound like, a "fanboy", but dammit the hell, Episodes I-III, did not fucking suck.

I agree. The visual effects rocked and they fit the storyline together brilliantly. Hey, here's a thought. Has anyone ever noticed that even though Anakin and Darth Vader are the same guy, in the new films (I-III), Anakin has an American accent, but when he turns into Vader (end of III and VI-VI) he has an English accent? Weird, huh?


The fightscenes in the Bourne Trilogy are 'Outstanding'.

I'm sorry, let me say this slowly for you. YOU-ARE-UN-BELIEVABLY-RETARDED!
You actually think the shitty Bourne Trilogy is better than Pirates? You really must be a YMCA gayboy faggot.

[Quadros]

Oh Gavin I don't think you know what you've just done. I'll give you an hour, maybe, to apologise and revoke that stupid, stupid statement then I WILL rip your proverbial head off and shit down your throat, creating a collision, pile up and eventual explosion of shit as it collides with the turd that comes up your throat and out your mouth every time you try and speak.

I never said the Bourne Trilogy is better than Pirates, I said one aspect of it is. I'll say it now though; THE BOURNE TRILOGY IS BETTER THAN PIRATES. You're talking about difficultly correographed fight scenes? Look at the speed and complexity of the fights in the Bourne Trilogy. You're talking about amazing digital effects? The Bourne Trilogy doesn't need them to be a good film. The acting is, on the whole, far better, The stunts are far more impressive because they're actually believable. It's a trilogy with a story line without unintentional plot holes and some sense of intengrety and believability. The only really outstanding thing about 'Pirates' is Johnny Depp's acting. That's it, the rest is unremarkable. Good, but not partularly exceptional. So no, I'm not a 'YMCA gayboy faggot'. I'm an adult, and you're clearly a pubescent fanboy who has to be told what's good and bad but not neccesarily why. Pirates is a franchise desgned for children to discuss on playgrounds. 'Did you see that bit where Jack Sparrow defied the laws of physics and probability by effectively flying round the ship on a rope? THAT WAS AWESOME!'. And you've lapped it up, haven't you? You've been so overawed by the scary monsters and special effects that you've ignored the failings of the films, their inability to provide an ending that's actually satisfying, for example, or the fact that the dialectic cross is carried by one character.

Questions?

[Spastic]

If I had any respect left for Quadros I would have lost it all when he said the Bourne trilogy was better than Pirates, luckily that isn't the case. I really don't know how you could say Bourne was better than Pirates at all, it was all action and it had fucking Matt Damon. At least Pirates have Johnny Depp and an intriguing story, but anything for an internet fight, right?

[Quadros]

The Bourne Trilogy has a riviting plot and far superior acting, the it's grittier and you feel far more empathy and personality in the story than with Pirates. Pirates was just the Lord of the Rings on the sea. Except Legolas was playing Frodo this time, and it was worse in pretty much every way it could be except for Johnny Depp's storming performance. (I know it looks like i'm fellating him at this point, but he really was the only thing about the films that made them anything special'). Disney had a boardroom meeting and asked 'what two things do teenagers think are coolest? Pirates and the Lord of the Rings Films? Ok, people are stupid, lets merge them and make millions!'

Look at the similarities in the plots. Our hero, who's never been on an adventure in his life, is happy at home until an attack on it forces him and the local trouble maker (Gandalf, as played by Depp) to go off on some ambiguous quest to save the day driven by a vague sense of responsibility owed to a father figure. They gather a crew including a drunken bearded bloke, a woman, at least one midget and a guy pretty much certain to betray them, and go off to do whatever ambiguous task needs doing. They fight skeletons, then men corrupted by temptation as they seek to own or destroy the item responsible for control of middle earth/the seas. Along the way Gandalf (Played by Depp) dies, but don't worry he'll somehow be back later. Shit goes bad and it looks like the 'good guys' might lose, but don't worry as they fight their glorious last stand someone shouts something about Freedom (because America eats that shit right up) and our hero manages to destroy the item. We then find out that it ostracises him from everything he was trying to protect in the ultimate sacrifice, but at least the world is saved, and he gains immortality in the realm he now calls home. The End.

[SladeMadeFilms]

I realize that I failed to mention the Bourne series when I first posted my sage theories, but let me just say, that had I thought of it, it would have been the list for best ever, 3 out of 3. All three of the films were interesting, believable, and advanced the story without noticeable plot holes.

On the subject of comparing the Bourne films to the Pirate films, there is a flaw. These are obviously two very different types of movies. Pirates was made for younger children mostly, (hello, Disney) and Bourne movies were made for adults. Pirates was adapted from a ride at Disney world, the Bourne movies are adaptations of suspense novels. It's like comparing "Follow that Bird (http://imdb.com/title/tt0089994/)" to "Sin City (http://imdb.com/title/tt0401792/)". They are just too different.

and it had fucking Matt Damon. At least Pirates have Johnny Depp

As for this, there's nothing wrong with Matt Damon. He is quite an accomplished and outstanding actor. Just watch Dogma, Ocean's Eleven, The Daparted (http://imdb.com/title/tt0407887/), and numerous others (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000354/).

I'm not taking anything away from Johnny Depp (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000136/), who is an awesome and one of my favorite actors.

Obviously I love both trilogies, since as you can see, I had Pirates listed in the best of all time list.

[Dresden]

Look at the similarities in the plots. Our hero, who's never been on an adventure in his life, is happy at home until an attack on it forces him and the local trouble maker (Gandalf, as played by Depp) to go off on some ambiguous quest to save the day driven by a vague sense of responsibility owed to a father figure. They gather a crew including a drunken bearded bloke, a woman, at least one midget and a guy pretty much certain to betray them, and go off to do whatever ambiguous task needs doing. They fight skeletons, then men corrupted by temptation as they seek to own or destroy the item responsible for control of middle earth/the seas. Along the way Gandalf (Played by Depp) dies, but don't worry he'll somehow be back later. Shit goes bad and it looks like the 'good guys' might lose, but don't worry as they fight their glorious last stand someone shouts something about Freedom (because America eats that shit right up) and our hero manages to destroy the item. We then find out that it ostracises him from everything he was trying to protect in the ultimate sacrifice, but at least the world is saved, and he gains immortality in the realm he now calls home. The End.

Wow, you know, you're right about those similarities. Although honestly, most movies are the same in a general way. Good guys fight bad guys. Epic battles. Good guys win. Sacrifice. Blah blah blah. While I'm a big fan of Pirates and Lord of the Rings both, I do agree there were some plot holes in the Pirates movies. And yes, Johnny Depp was the best part of them. Hell, Johnny Depp is the best part of any movie he's in. The first Pirates I think was fairly original and well done. However, that's because it was the first and they didn't know they had a money-making machine yet. With two, they did, and they just butchered the whole thing. The third was better than the second, although still just as unbelievable (as in "how the hell would that happen, exactly?" scenes, not as in "really good") in some aspects.

[Far]

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