Team Fortress 2: That Spy Ain't Our Spy

[Rob]

Offensive spy is now unstoppable on Badwater Basin, it's almost too easy actually. I just hung around that hardly used back area near the final terminus and got eight back stabs in a row, each time cloaking and falling back to that shed with the ammo box.

Spies just got 1000x more annoying with this update.

[NVM]

I like this new update, now there are more offense engineers and defensive spies.
But thats mostly because spies are now Predator.

[Prawnatron]

They are going to have to change this. As much as I love getting loads of kills as spy, it's just getting riduculous.

[Lag]

They just made you invisible longer.
It's not like you can fire plasma cannons from your shoulders.

[Shagg]

I spy a lot, and although this update gives spies a boost, honestly it doesn't change the tables that much. Sure, it makes it convenient when you are low on cloak and you see an ammo pack right there, but more then often you're in trouble far away from any ammo source, and by the time you get to one, your cloak has already recharged a good amount. So I don't think it's necessary to freak out and call it unbalanced; I think most people are just getting killed by a spy normally, but blaming the new cloak every time.

[Rob]

It gives spies a boost on certain maps. I've got a hunch that they get the most benefit on offense/defense maps since red's side usually gets stacked with ammo crates. I haven't counted the crates so I can't really prove this, but it makes sense.

[Mr Anorexia]

Man I need to get my laptop fixed, I haven't played since before the Heavy updates. Is this game still really fun????

[Rob]

No, it's terrible. That's why we've all been talking about it for almost 800 posts. Because we hate it so much.

[PshSam]

That's what I figured, and why i didn't buy it yesterday for only $10.

I'm kicking myself already.

[Rob]

Actually you should have bought it. What else were you going to spend that $10 on?

[NVM]

I've given TF2 more playtime than almost all my games I've spent $50/$60 on.

[Lag]

New Scout Unlock, for sure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2n1zJjWY0Q&feature=related)

This has too many memorable quotes to mention in one post.

[Prawnatron]

New Scout Unlock, for sure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2n1zJjWY0Q&feature=related)

This has too many memorable quotes to mention in one post.

I was actually looking forward to something TF2 related, but that is awesome.

[PshSam]

Actually you should have bought it. What else were you going to spend that $10 on?

Spending upwards of $1100 on my gaming computer, and quite literally have to put all my funds into it. I'll pick it up later for $20 which is still a great price regardless.

[Knight of Cydonia]

New Scout Unlock, for sure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2n1zJjWY0Q&feature=related)

This has too many memorable quotes to mention in one post.

His new taunt will be "You'll love my nuts!"

[Rob]

New Scout Unlock, for sure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2n1zJjWY0Q&feature=related)

This has too many memorable quotes to mention in one post.

Whoa, that is uncanny.

[Matterialize]

Whoa, that is uncanny.

You mean, you haven't seen the ShamWow commercial?

[Rob]

Uhhh nope.

[Benjaman]

For Rob's benefit.

QwRISkyV_B8&NR

[Rob]

What am I supposed to be getting out of this?

[Benjaman]

Do you spend tons of money on paper towels? Maybe you should invest in the Shamwow.

[Rob]

I was just pointing that that guy looks and talks like the scout, I don't have to buy anything do I?

[Lag]

If you don't buy anything, the Red's win. Support the Blu-sportin sales-scout. :frown:

[Matterialize]

Scout's actual voice actor also looks and sounds (hurr) like Vince. He's just less of a dick.

[Lag]

http://www.tfhq.fr/images/news/image/perso_irl/Nathan_Vetterlein-Scout.jpg
Reminds me more of the church lunatic from L4D, and I ain't even seen that guy's face.

[Knight of Cydonia]

How bout instead of the pistol you get a kind of Blower that reflects bullets. It would be like the one on the pyro's gun buy constant and would reflect maybe 90% of everything or maybe only crits could hit you through it. It would be useful for running away and doing melee.

[OoooF4LiFe]

Or some boots. You can only attack with them in the air. Replaces the bat, slows you by 15%, but 25% chance of crit.

It's gotta fit the class somehow. A blower that reflects bullets would be retarded. :ahe:

[blltmssgy]

Whatever happened to the Explosm TF2 Server?

[MistyTehMoose]

Noone played on it.

[Iceshade]

I just picked up The Orange Box today for 20 bucks for my PS3. I know most of you play on the PC but is there anyone in the wide world of Explosm who owns it for PS3?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Or some boots. You can only attack with them in the air. Replaces the bat, slows you by 15%, but 25% chance of crit.

It's gotta fit the class somehow. A blower that reflects bullets would be retarded. :ahe:

Why? I'm pretty sure Valve could do that and would get away with it. I'm just thinking of stuff that would be useful for scouts and changes gameplay with it's advantages and disadvantages.:ahe:

Following on on thew idea of two bats, a trade off could be your shotgun for a bat. Or maybe a bat and a ball.

[Lag]

How about a net gun that fires nets and let's the Scout net people, then boink em' while they're immobilized.

[Rob]

I just picked up The Orange Box today for 20 bucks for my PS3. I know most of you play on the PC but is there anyone in the wide world of Explosm who owns it for PS3?

Haha, this seems like a question better asked before you bought it. Answer's no. :frown:

The console version is inferior in every way, and the community for it is a joke. They're about to update it to bring it up to speed with the PC version so that may change.

[Rob]

How about a net gun that fires nets and let's the Scout net people, then boink em' while they're immobilized.

I think Valve has said they will never take control away from the player. :(

So that as well as people sappers will never happen, unfortunately.

[Matterialize]

Huh? Natascha almost does it.

[Metalhead636]

I have it for 360, how do you get out of the play area in 2fort. I was playing last night and I was walking into a teleporter and the guy was like "WAIT!". I ended up in the room overlooking Blu Base.

[Dodger]

What?

2fort is the simplest map really. You simply jump off the battlements or through the doors on the lower floor. I don't understand your question.

[Matterialize]

He's talking about the teleporter exploits in 2fort. Guess they haven't patched those in the 360 version yet. Do you remember that windowed control-room-lookin' thing overlooking the intelligence? You can get in there. Griefers stick their tele exits in there and put the entrance right outside spawn, so people leaving spawn get caught on the spawn door long enough to trigger the teleporter, and away they go.

There's other 'map leaks' in 2fort like that, as well.

[Lag]

Still, imagine, all that content we gradually got over the year just BAM, right there in one big package for the 360.

[Rob]

Huh? Natascha almost does it.

Yeah, almost. If you got stopped completely that would kind of remove the fun since you can't fight back or escape.

Well, maybe fight back.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yeah, almost. If you got stopped completely that would kind of remove the fun since you can't fight back or escape.

Plus the scout would never get the kills. Every other class would just take it.

[Claudio]

Yeah, I've got it. Great game. The spy is my favorite.
What do you think of portal?

[Matterialize]

I think it's not TF2 and you can talk about Portal somewhere else.

[Rob]

I wrote some TF2 Portal erotic fan fiction, does that go here?

[junglebunny]

It goes on the front page.

[NVM]

Scout should get Portal gun.
That would totally work.

[Antisaint]

Wooden bat for the scout, slower rate of fire, more damage, no crits.

Also, he should get jetboots.

[Prawnatron]

I found this.

Spy Update (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/spy_achievements_fake.jpg)

It's pretty cool. It's obviously fake and I don't know how old it is or if you've all seen it. The achievements sound good though.

[MistyTehMoose]

That's been posted in here already, but its pretty neat.

[Urser]

Wooden bat for the scout, slower rate of fire, more damage, no crits.

Also, he should get jetboots.

In my opinion it should be less damage but faster rate of fire. Though I must admit I don't play baseball. I just assumed something made of wood be lighter but not as hard as metal.

[junglebunny]

Not when you make bats out of aluminum and titanium.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I reckon he might get a bat with a nail in it,the warriors style. Slower attack but more damage or maybe it could be damage over time like fire.

[Iceshade]

Haha, this seems like a question better asked before you bought it. Answer's no. :frown:

The console version is inferior in every way, and the community for it is a joke. They're about to update it to bring it up to speed with the PC version so that may change.

Egh, Portal was hella-fun anyways. I jumped on to TF2 for a bit and there were only a few people in the room that it auto-assigned me to... and they were kinda just dickin' around. I'll grab that update when it comes out.

[junglebunny]

Nobody plays the PS3 version. The Xbox version may still be inferior in every way, but it's still way more active and fun to play.

Plus the PS3 is never going to get the updates or new maps (it seems like neither is Xbox, but at least they "plan" to :frown:).

[Knight of Cydonia]

Holy shit. Medics own (Points wise) in arena. I started about halfway through a rotation and in a few round I was top of the points and always in the top 3, usually Number 1 or 2 for the end of round scores. Pretty fun as well compared to healing in any other maps.

[MistyTehMoose]

Medic is my new favourite. You can easily top the team on any map as long as you are good at it, and it also doesn't help sticking to one person.

[Homemaster]

Agreed, medic has always been my favourite. On Arena you are so valuable too, specially with a Kritz (faster charge wins on Arena).

[Lag]

Anybody else have trouble with the airblast? My experience with it has ranged from crit rockets salvos being thrown back at the enemy to having ubers kinda air walk past you.

It's neat when you do well with it but sometimes it's so hard.

And let me just drop this of here.
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/0/c/2/0c22fc241f4b9ee18c6afced7cf9504b.gif

[NVM]

Anybody else have trouble with the airblast? My experience with it has ranged from crit rockets salvos being thrown back at the enemy to having ubers kinda air walk past you.

It's neat when you do well with it but sometimes it's so hard.

And let me just drop this of here.
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/0/c/2/0c22fc241f4b9ee18c6afced7cf9504b.gif

I've seen that movie, it's a masterpiece.

[Prawnatron]

I've seen that movie, it's a masterpiece.

What movie is it? And I love the compression blast.

[Matterialize]

It's awesome against ubers. I try to go for the medic, and the attacker doesn't even realize his medic's gone until the uber suddenly wears off.

[Rob]

OH MY GOD A NEW PATCH!!! OH MY G-

oh.

Server browser for dummies. Cool.

[NVM]

What movie is it? And I love the compression blast.

The title is Underground Comedy Movie written, directed, produced, and starring Vince himself.

[Knight of Cydonia]

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I want one.

[Rob]

Resize that shit. What's wrong with you.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Resize that shit. What's wrong with you.

I linked it instead.

[junglebunny]

You know imageshack gives you the option to resize, right?

I've pretty much lost all intrest in this game. The only thing that could draw me would be some GODDAMN XBOX 360 UPDATES WTF

[MistyTehMoose]

Get it on the pc?

[junglebunny]

I don't have a computer.

[Prawnatron]

You're so funny Junglebunny

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[Wafflez]

that one weekend when tf2 was free was so much fun playing as spy >;D

[Metalhead636]

Why would it not be fun playing as a spy any other time, Wafflez?

[Shmuh]

Because there were more new players on that didn't know what they were doing.

[Metalhead636]

Ahh, that would be great.

[Wafflez]

Why would it not be fun playing as a spy any other time, Wafflez?

Noob engineers seem to be a lot more oblivious to who's a spy than you're average player. It's also al ot easier to jump on Snipers' heads and stab the from the top :D Also playing as scout is more fun jumping on heavy's heads and seeing them spin around trying to find out who's hitting them.

[CreamScreamer]

FUCK YEAH NEW SHIT. (http://kotaku.com/5136320/team-fortress-2-getting-one-more-new-gameplay-mode)

Let the new class speculations begin now.

[Knight of Cydonia]

FUCK YEAH NEW SHIT. (http://kotaku.com/5136320/team-fortress-2-getting-one-more-new-gameplay-mode)

Let the new class speculations begin now.

A tenth class! Awesome.
I think the new game mode could VIP or a king of the hill mode.

[Lag]

A tenth class! Awesome.
I think the new game mode could VIP or a king of the hill mode.

Payload was, as Valve said, their solution to VIP / Hunted, and CP & Arena maps are essentially TF2's KotH.

They said something drastically different, so we oughta speculate on something that doesn't center around carts, points, or intelligence.

[Dodger]

You gotta push the cart to the point to get the intelligence!
In all seriousness, I hope it's a combat racing mode.

[Matterialize]

Assassination-style team deathmatch, like in Gears. A random "leader" is chosen each round and once they are killed, their team stops respawning.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Assassination-style team deathmatch, like in Gears. A random "leader" is chosen each round and once they are killed, their team stops respawning.

Holy crap that is perfect for tf2.
i'd also like to see a mode where friendly fire has to be on.

[Rob]

Assassination-style team deathmatch, like in Gears. A random "leader" is chosen each round and once they are killed, their team stops respawning.

That would be really fun actually, minus the stop respawning part. Killing their King should just end the round. If you had to kill off the rest of them it'd just add some tedium to the end.

[Chips]

That would be crazy with all the spies that would come after you. I'd be so jumpy :wail:

[Rob]

Maybe if the king got some sort of health or attack boost.

[10Fps]

Well he would probably have a personal medic and engineer, and pyros should be able to take down spies. Maybe they shouldn't be able to one hit him, such as headshots and backstabs.

Also am I the only person who likes crits and normal respawn times? All servers seem to have no respawn or crits and it annoys me so much.

[Pieman]

I'm fine either way, as long as respawn times aren't 10 seconds+.

[Rob]

Haha are we discussing this new gameplay like it's fact now?

[Pieman]

I think that part about respawn and crits was unrelated, I know my comment was.

[Rob]

Oh whoops, I missed that.

[Wafflez]

Assassination-style team deathmatch, like in Gears. A random "leader" is chosen each round and once they are killed, their team stops respawning.

That sounds like a great idea. I would rather have that the more the leader dies the longer the spawn time is. and after a certain amount of deaths of the leader, the round is over. They also have to find a way so the leader can't stay in the spawn.

[Mr Anorexia]

Maybe if the king got some sort of health or attack boost.
That's what I was thinking. It would be kinda easy if they didn't.

[Prawnatron]

I think that would kinda suck, I don't know why though.

[Tempest]

The thing I don't like about the "leader" ideal is that it puts a higher premium on defending a certain person. Now, while that's not bad in general, I don't really think it's right for TF2. There's always been a higher focus on running and gunning in TF2 than most other shooters, it's a lot more hectic and fast-paced and I just don't think it lends itself to the gametype very well. There's always a chance they'll do it, prove me wrong and make it fucking amazing, but I dunno.

I mean, there aren't really any classes cut out for "defending" a leader-type. Medic could keep him healed, but when they get overrun it's game over. Engineer can't move along with the king type, so the leader would have to just camp out in one area, and what fun is that. I suppose he could roll with a pack of pyros, but.. I don't know, just imagining it, it doesn't feel right compared to normal TF2 play.

[Matterialize]

The thing I don't like about the "leader" ideal is that it puts a higher premium on defending a certain person. Now, while that's not bad in general, I don't really think it's right for TF2. There's always been a higher focus on running and gunning in TF2 than most other shooters, it's a lot more hectic and fast-paced and I just don't think it lends itself to the gametype very well. There's always a chance they'll do it, prove me wrong and make it fucking amazing, but I dunno.

I mean, there aren't really any classes cut out for "defending" a leader-type. Medic could keep him healed, but when they get overrun it's game over. Engineer can't move along with the king type, so the leader would have to just camp out in one area, and what fun is that. I suppose he could roll with a pack of pyros, but.. I don't know, just imagining it, it doesn't feel right compared to normal TF2 play.

Well, it's essentially CTF with a person instead of intelligence. And maybe the leader would get a damage buff in addition to a health buff - make using the leader a viable tactic, instead of squirreling him away for the whole round.

I think it would be fun. That won't be what the new game mode is, but meh.

[Wafflez]

Well, it's essentially CTF with a person instead of intelligence. And maybe the leader would get a damage buff in addition to a health buff - make using the leader a viable tactic, instead of squirreling him away for the whole round.

I think it would be fun. That won't be what the new game mode is, but meh.

The ctf style could meet with the payload style and it could become something like escorting the leader to certain points along the levels. I like the idea of extra health.
I think if you sent Valve a suggestion of these ideas they could experiment with them and it might possibly become real. Only thing holding things off like this is l4d.

Also about the new class thing. that tenth figurine could be the sentry.

[Lag]

Well we're gonna find out early next week anyways, so I guess we can wait till then.

[Prawnatron]

Every time I see this thread I start getting really excited, thinking about the updates, but I'm always dissapointed.

[Wafflez]

Every time I see this thread I start getting really excited, thinking about the updates, but I'm always dissapointed.
I feel your pain. Just got to to hold off until l4d cools down.

How many people here like or dislike the arena style play?

[Antisaint]

Maybe something more like king of the hill.

[Homemaster]

Arena style is great, though there aren't enough no crit arena servers!

[jontheninja]

I think sometime around when I disguised myself as an enemy medic and then back stabbed three people in the middle of their base I realized this could be the best game ever made.

Anyone else have it?

Also the screenshot feature is unbelievably fun:

Rob! You're not alone!! I also have this game. If you want we can play sometime.

[Homemaster]

Are you for serial? (to above)

[Matterialize]

Wooowwww.

[pikaknight79]

Dammit, i wanna play this game but every server i join its messed up and if your feet arent on the ground (falling, jumping) you float straight up and cant get down. Does anyone have any suggestions? BTW, i am on an xbox

[Wafflez]

Just wondering, What's everyone's top 3 favorite classes?

1.Medic - Too under appreciated
2.Sniper
3.Spy

[Dodger]

-Pyro
Pyro is good in just about any situation. Great for defending and attacking, the air blast can stop ubers, and if you're good at using the map to your advantage (ie: sneaking around and shit) kills are almost ridiculously easy. And if you aren't good at sneaking around, then seeing a pyro rush full force at you is pretty intimidating anyway.

-Spy
Easily the class that's the most fun to play. Annoy the shit out of the other team, and makes it easy to get revenge against that aimbotting sniper. Able to take down turtling engis and their sentries, heavy-medic combos, annoying snipers; pretty much anything but pyros and other spies.

-Engi
A well placed sentry can will the round alone for a team. The amount of times that my team has lost because we just couldn't take down a sentry is ridiculous and almost as much as the amount of times my team has won because the other team couldn't take down our sentry, annoying as fuck. Combined with a perpetual rush by well placed teleporters and dispensers. Engis are cool.

[Antisaint]

Engi: Like Dodger said, one good engi can win a round. And wrenching people in the back is awesome

Medic: Keeping people alive wins games, especially with long respawns.

Pyro: Keep the rush back, make people run away. And I'm good with the flare gun.

[Matterialize]

Scout's my favorite, I like doing quick hit-and-run attacks and courier work, like chasing down the intel carrier. Soldier and Pyro are what I fall back on when I get frustrated with whatever class I'm currently playing, 'cause they're easy to get kills with.



1.Medic - Too under appreciated


uh, what :ahe:

[Spastic]

I haven't played since about September, but when I played then my top classes were

1. Demoman
Truly the best class in the game, really doesn't have a weakness besides maybe Snipers, I always had twice as many kills than deaths.

2. Soldier
Rockets rockets rockets, again only Snipers killed me frequently.

3. Spy
Lots of weaknesses, but if you can play a Spy well you get around them relatively easily. I just love taking out 9 people when getting behind a group unnoticed.

[Prawnatron]

Just wondering, What's everyone's top 3 favorite classes?

1.Medic - Too under appreciated
2.Sniper
3.Spy

Easy,

1. Spy
2. Sniper
3. Pyro

[Wafflez]

I also like playing as scout becuase of his fast movement.

I just realized there is a girl character in the game. Can any of you guess who it is because it's kind of obvious.

[Matterialize]

I just realized there is a girl character in the game. Can any of you guess who it is because it's kind of obvious.

The calendar girls in 2fort, obviously.
Don't start this shit.

[MistyTehMoose]

Apparenly its the Pyro but it's just teeny fanboys giving themselves an excuse to fap all over it. Valve has never confirmed it.

[Tempest]

Pyro has a purse in his locker etc etc etc.

[Urser]

The flaky-voiced speaker lady is the girl. The Pyro is just fruity.

[Wafflez]

i never even thought of the pyros as girls but, Urser has the answer I was expecting.

[Dodger]

Pyro has a purse in his locker etc etc etc.

It's a manbag.

[Wafflez]

Which class do you like best because of their personality?

I like the sniper and the scout. their just hella funny.

[Prawnatron]

Heavy is pretty funny to play as when he starts singing.

[Tempest]

Which class do you like best because of their personality?

Get on the friggin' point dumbass!
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[Lag]

They all have some of their best moments.
"You are a spineless worm! You are a mistake of nature! You are walking vomit!"
~Soldier

"Let's just give up, pardner."
"Let's all go back to the base, pardner"
~Spy

[Knight of Cydonia]

Valve wasn't kidding when they said this update would be released at the end of the month.
Spy's are always enjoyable after backstabbing with the line "I was never on your side". Never fails to being a smile to my face. There whole personalty is great.

[Wafflez]

Valve wasn't kidding when they said this update would be released at the end of the month.
Spy's are always enjoyable after backstabbing with the line "I was never on your side". Never fails to being a smile to my face. There whole personalty is great.

Which update?

[MistyTehMoose]

The giant Scout one :indiff:

[Rob]

Whoa, I wanna play as the giant scout.

[foxtrotpenguin]

Just wondering, What's everyone's top 3 favorite classes?

1.Medic - Too under appreciated
2.Sniper
3.Spy

1.MEdic
2.Pyro
3. Heavy

[Wafflez]

The giant Scout one :indiff:
Oh. How could i forget that one? XD

[WoeStorm]

1. Engineer
2. Pyro
3. Spy

[OoooF4LiFe]

Regardless of the updates, I prefer the demoman, over the soldier, over the medic. But I'm more than willing to swap to anything if my team is lacking.


I mean, it is team fortress after all. Demoman is always a good pick as long as your not retarded.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Alright the patch is out tomorrow that will fix a few bugs ect so don't get your hopes up. But : Later this week we hope to have another update out that changes the way we store your unlockable items. Once that's out of the way, we'll be able to ship the Scout pack. From:http://www.teamfortress.com/
Next class to get unlockables? Here's hoping the spy.

[Rob]

Sounds like they're getting rid of achievement hacks.

[Wafflez]

Regardless of the updates, I prefer the demoman, over the soldier, over the medic. But I'm more than willing to swap to anything if my team is lacking.


I mean, it is team fortress after all. Demoman is always a good pick as long as your not retarded.

Sma here. I would change to a certain class if my team needs it.

Just wondering but, how many of you guys, when playing goldrush or any other PL map, is the only one to be moving the cart? I mean moving the cart all the way to the point and not just the few inches before the point.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Sma here. I would change to a certain class if my team needs it.

Just wondering but, how many of you guys, when playing goldrush or any other PL map, is the only one to be moving the cart? I mean moving the cart all the way to the point and not just the few inches before the point.

I'll do it if I'm a Heavy/Medic,Scout,Engi or Soldier. The other classes need to defend the people pushing the cart.

[Rob]

Sma here. I would change to a certain class if my team needs it.

Just wondering but, how many of you guys, when playing goldrush or any other PL map, is the only one to be moving the cart? I mean moving the cart all the way to the point and not just the few inches before the point.

That's actually a good strategy sometimes, if 11 out of 12 of you are holding red back all it takes is 1 to keep capping the cart over and over.

[Matterialize]

A lot of times it's not so much 'strategy' as it is, people getting sidetracked with shooting the other team and forgetting about the cart. I know I do.

[Lag]

Well it looks like somebody kicked Valve's asses into gear and finally fixed their damn game.
Fixed Pyro model not animating in the class menu

About damn time.

[Homemaster]

They fixed Natascha!!! Best game fix EVER.

[Wafflez]

That's actually a good strategy sometimes, if 11 out of 12 of you are holding red back all it takes is 1 to keep capping the cart over and over.

But, This also gives red more time to setup if they haven't already. But I guess that's what spies are for >:D

[danno2787]

I can't wait for the new achievements, and finally the Heavy will get his sanvich! (http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm).

And yes this game is good but it takes some getting used to at first, it plays differently than about 80% of FPS games that are popular at the moment.

[Rob]

You're a little behind.

[Matterialize]

Gonna go out on a limb and say he's a 360 player, dude.

[Rob]

My statement is still true, just more condescending now.

[Wafflez]

Gonna go out on a limb and say he's a 360 player, dude.

Exactly why PC shooters, in my opinion, are better than console shooters. >:D

[Dodger]

Exactly why PC shooters, in my opinion, are better than console shooters. >:D


It really depends on the game, but if it's a Valve game I agree.

[Wafflez]

It really depends on the game, but if it's a Valve game I agree.

Definitely. It's still fun to play on the console version because most of the people who play on the console are pretty bad, making good practice. For some reason I'm way better at Call of Duty 4 on the console than on the PC.

Also, is there any news on the "Meet the..." videos?

anyone see the scout update ;D
http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/scout_update_artif.png

[Matterialize]

Cool Gears shotgun.

[Tempest]

That sure is real.

[Lag]

The achievements are the real treat.

[Homemaster]

Fuck, some of those look hard. This could be interesting. To be honest, I don't like those weapons, except maybe the bat. We will see.

[Prawnatron]

You know it's fake right?

[Urser]

Oh god, please tell me you're joking.

[Prawnatron]

Also, how are you supposed to get instant kill? Even in an achievement server that's hard.

[junglebunny]

Is this Wafflez thread now?

[Wafflez]

Is this Wafflez thread now?
Would you look at the time, I best be going now. Ta taa~

You know it's fake right?

What're you talking about? ;D

[danno2787]

Gonna go out on a limb and say he's a 360 player, dude.

Yes I am, sorry.

I would torrent it normally but I heard it won't work with Steam if I do.

[Wafflez]

Does anyone here play Gang Garrison 2? It's a demake of tf2. It's pretty fun :D

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Gang_Garrison_2

[danno2787]

Does anyone here play Gang Garrison 2? It's a demake of tf2. It's pretty fun :D

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Gang_Garrison_2

I just tried it. It's fun but it lags alot in some games.

[Wafflez]

I just tried it. It's fun but it lags alot in some games.

Yeah, i think the Sniper is a bit over powered

[danno2787]

Yeah, i think the Sniper is a bit over powered

I just run in as a weird little sprite dude I discovered by accidentally pressing Q at the class selection screen and kill everyone with bubbles.

[WoeStorm]

Yeah, i think the Sniper is a bit over powered

No, when two medics decide to follow a heavy and heal him, THAT'S overpowered.

[MistyTehMoose]

Yes I am, sorry.

I would torrent it normally but I heard it won't work with Steam if I do.

No it doesn't work with steam because that's Illegal

[danno2787]

No it doesn't work with steam because that's Illegal

Well I was pointing out the fact that if I were to torrent it there would be no online at all, disabling the whole point of the game.

[Dodger]

Actually pirated versions have shitty pirate servers where you can play with other people that have pirate versions of the game. However, if you can find one with actual people on it, they have no anti-cheat filter and it's usually filled with aimbotters, wall hackers, so on and so forth.

Just pony up for it.

[MistyTehMoose]

Well I was pointing out the fact that if I were to torrent it there would be no online at all, disabling the whole point of the game.

I suggest you fork up and pay for it.

[Wafflez]

Why go through the trouble of DLing it when its only $20.00?

[Matterialize]

Yeah, TF2's definitely worth the money. There are people out there who've put hundreds and hundreds of hours into this game, if not thousands. I get bored of it after awhile but I always come back.

[Wafflez]

Yeah, TF2's definitely worth the money. There are people out there who've put hundreds and hundreds of hours into this game, if not thousands. I get bored of it after awhile but I always come back.

It takes me hours until i get bored, and even if i do stop after about an hour or so, if i think about it, i have the urge to play it again.

[Lister]

What servers do you guys play on btw? Have you got any regulars?

And yes, TF2 is definitely worth the money :D

[junglebunny]

It takes me hours until i get bored, and even if i do stop after about an hour or so, if i think about it, i have the urge to play it again.

I believe that is classified as addiction.

[Antisaint]

They lowered crits. I am so happy right now.

[Wafflez]

What servers do you guys play on btw? Have you got any regulars?

And yes, TF2 is definitely worth the money :D

I play on any open servers, but if I feel like having a challenge i play on Jedi's Loft. The regulars are crazy good in there.

I believe that is classified as addiction.

I guess it is.

[10Fps]

No, when two medics decide to follow a heavy and heal him, THAT'S overpowered.

How can you believe this when the sniper can one hit him, in most situations the only way of a heavy having a chance in battle is to not fight. They have been made redundant in any game with more than 8 playing because of snipers.

[Homemaster]

How can you believe this when the sniper can one hit him, in most situations the only way of a heavy having a chance in battle is to not fight. They have been made redundant in any game with more than 8 playing because of snipers.

No.

Just managed to get the KGB. Freakin' sweet. And the recent fixes to Natascha make it much more noticeably useful.

[Matterialize]

Yeah, he exaggerated but can't an overhealed heavy be killed by a fully charged headshot?

[Shmuh]

Where the fuck is my Scout update? :mad: Didn't Valve say they were releasing it at the end of January or something?

Also, this was pretty funny: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/481609

[Prawnatron]

Where the fuck is my Scout update? :mad: Didn't Valve say they were releasing it at the end of January or something?

Also, this was pretty funny: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/481609

I'm sick of waiting, hopefully it'll be out next week.

[Antisaint]

Yeah, he exaggerated but can't an overhealed heavy be killed by a fully charged headshot?

Only in the back of the head.

[gouranga]

Team fortress is an awesome game, just epic fail on 360 though

[Wafflez]

Only in the back of the head.

Weather you hit in the back or front of the head makes a difference?

[junglebunny]

Team fortress is an awesome game, just epic fail on 360 though

Fuck you, it's still fun and if you have never played the computer version than you don't actually know what you're missing out on.

[Knight of Cydonia]

http://beavotron.deviantart.com/art/TF2-Valentines-Medic-76890941
There's more just just keep going. My favorites the pyro one.

[Prawnatron]

Yeah, he exaggerated but can't an overhealed heavy be killed by a fully charged headshot?

Yeah, fully charged+headshot=instakill on anyone.

[Wafflez]

Is anyone at least a tiny, ittybitty, annoyed at the soldier nerf? I understand the Demo nerf, but the soldier nerf was a little bit much. 4 more rockets would be nice.

[Lag]

Increased soldier primary ammo count from 16 to 20
:confused:

[Shagg]

That nerf pisses me off. I hate having 4 extra rockets, it throws my game off.

[Prawnatron]

I never really play the soldier, is the nerf really that bad?

[Shmuh]

GODDAMN, 4 EXTRA ROCKETS? SOLDIERS ARE SO FUCKING OVERPOWERED NOW GOD FUCK VALVE.

[junglebunny]

I still have like 36 or some shit.

[MistyTehMoose]

Soldiers used to have 24 back in my day.

[Wafflez]

24 was nice. I'm glad about what they did with the stickies. Anyone see the new crit rate, thing?

[Matterialize]

Fixed bug in teleporter logic that allowed engineers to build teleporters with HUGE health values

Wait, what? Anyone know what this is about?

[Wafflez]

Wait, what? Anyone know what this is about?

If you upgrade a teleport to level 3, destroy the exit and re-upgrade it, the health will stack. We did this tons of times to get this.



The sound is off, and I accidentally cut off the end but it took about 450 metal to fully repair it

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[junglebunny]

Hey that's not how you use youtube tags!!

[Wafflez]

Hey that's not how you use youtube tags!!

Whoops, fixed.

[Troy78]

I indeed have this game and shall i say it KICKS ASS iv'e had it for some time and ues back stabbing is awesome yet hard along with the entertaining cartoon grahpics

Add me as a friend if you like username: troy78

[Wafflez]

I indeed have this game and shall i say it KICKS ASS iv'e had it for some time and ues back stabbing is awesome yet hard along with the entertaining cartoon grahpics

Add me as a friend if you like username: troy78

Yeah, i love how unserious the graphics are. I think there choice for the cartoony graphics make the game more fun and less frustrating when you die.

[Tempest]

So are they ever going to release the Scout update or what?

[Pieman]

It's valve time, "It's coming out soon," means 6-8 weeks before they start working on it.

[Prawnatron]

It's valve time, "It's coming out soon," means 6-8 weeks before they start working on it.

The rest is here (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) if anyone wants to know

[junglebunny]

What about Xbox?!?

[xxWindowxx]

I don't personally have it but my ex does and it is fucking amazing!
I personally loved playing as a pyro. I don't trust the spies on our team considering
they could be the other team's spy in disguise. That's what I come in for though.
Pyro is best for spy checking.

[Wafflez]

What about Xbox?!?
you'll get your updates in a couple years :D

[Lag]

Woopah (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/)

[NVM]

That's sounds fun as hell to use, but annoying youre the one getting hit.

But anyways, Scouts are now useful on Defense.

[Wafflez]

OH MAN!! This looks GREAT! Can't play for a while though T-T Fill me in. Does the ball arc? How fast does it go? Is it really worth losing the double jump?

Those ubers seem to get less and less uber.

[Prawnatron]

Woopah (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/)

Frickin' Unbelievable! I can't wait to try this out!

[Rob]

Yes!!!

[Tempest]

Well, I've already decided that I will be unlocking all the scout weapons as soon as possible, and I haven't even seen the other two.

[Prawnatron]

I'm betting the pistol will be replaced by something really obscure.

[MistyTehMoose]

I am going to have so much fun as a Pyro next week.

[Lag]

I'm guessing it'll probably be like the bat only with right-click flares.

Flares that boink ya.

[Homemaster]

Yeah, something like that. I dunno, it seems like a fair trade, and it could be very useful.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I am going to have so much fun as a Pyro next week.

Same but as a engi or a heavy.
Edit: There are 3 more spots to fill after the guns. I'm almost certain of 1:Meet the spy or medic video and 2:New maps.
3: Could be new game mode, or the 10th class hinted from L4D.

[Tempest]

It's the new game mode and either the new maps to go with it or a new meet video. They've already announced the game mode, so that'll definitely be on there. I highly doubt they're anywhere close to done with a 10th class now, and as far as I can tell that kotaku article only hinted that there were ideas floating around about a 10th class, not that it was guaranteed.

[Wafflez]

I'm betting the pistol will be replaced by something really obscure.

Something like a slingshot that slows down the enemy or something.

[Prawnatron]

Something like a slingshot that slows down the enemy or something.

No, I'm talking about like a bag that gives out health or something weird like that.

[NVM]

This new map doesn't do much for me.
Arena got boring after the 5th match.

Junction looks okay.

[Rob]

Junction seems anti-sniper as hell from those screenshots.

[Lag]

I've played both them maps before. Junction I remember was really fun, although watchtower seems like a weird choice.

[Wafflez]

No, I'm talking about like a bag that gives out health or something weird like that.

I think that they would have to keep is something like a pistol. Maybe a gun that shoots ammo and metal at teammates.

[Shmuh]

I've actually played on arena_watchtower before, it's a pretty fun map. It's pretty much perfect for scouts and snipers.

[Wafflez]

Junction looks like a lot of fun for scouts. Jumping around corners and blasting people in the face then jumping back behind the protection of the corners. Looks annoying for spies too.

[Benjaman]

In case you didn't see, the second weapon is out, along with some achievements (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm). Awesome.

Also; 2nd achievement, first column.

[Prawnatron]

In case you didn't see, the second weapon is out, along with some achievements (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm). Awesome.

Also; 2nd achievement, first column.

The page won't load for me. :argh:

[Rob]

BONK!!

If it won't load here's a screeny:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/509/gfdgul1.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/gfdgul1.png/1/w1043.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img147/gfdgul1.png/1/)

[Rob]

There's a red bomb & track in the background there, I'm guessing the new game type is double payload. Or wacky TF2 race.

[Dodger]

In case you didn't see, the second weapon is out, along with some achievements (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm). Awesome.

Also; 2nd achievement, first column.

Fuck I'm famous on the Internet now, guys!

[Wafflez]

There's a red bomb & track in the background there, I'm guessing the new game type is double payload. Or wacky TF2 race.

That sounds awesome. A payload race with both carts next to each other is great.

[Matterialize]

So, Bonk! replaces the pistol? Cool. Never used it much anyway. I wonder how many more of the classes are going to get wacky food items.

[pillowlover15]

Does the website just show the names of the achievements or is the info just not loading on my computer?

[Wafflez]

This is exactly what the scout needed to stay a live a little longer. Does it work with fire?

[Rob]

I'm kinda bummed about Bonk!

The whole non-weapon item was cool for the heavy, I wish they'd get back to innovative weapons though. So much more fun.

[NVM]

I love the scout, so Ill probably use Bonk.

Any ways, the Double Payload Map seems really fun.

[Tempest]

So, the energy drink makes you basically ubered for a few seconds, but after it wears off you move slower for a few seconds as well?

[IronWire]

Edit: Fixd

[Prawnatron]

So, the energy drink makes you basically ubered for a few seconds, but after it wears off you move slower for a few seconds as well?

This will be very useful with turtling engies.

[Burpboy]

Ive always been a really big fan of using the Scout, I could definatley do some damage with the new bat and the Bonk! energy drink. Im excited to see what the new Scattergun weapon is going to end up being.

[Matterialize]

Fall Classic: Cause an environmental death or suicide using the Force-A-Nature's knockback.

That.

I'm guessing it's a really powerful shotgun with a slow rate of fire, or that has a 2 shell max clip size.

To be honest, I'm looking forward to doing this more than anything else:
Out of the Park: Bat an enemy 25 meters.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Best achievement is going to be Beanball: stun a scout with their own ball.
New game mode: Baseball.

[Antisaint]

Classes with the ability to ascend rapidly (Soldiers, Demomen, and Scouts using the new scattergun unlockable )

:think:

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm also hoping for a new scout taunt with Bionk! and the new bat.

[Urser]

:think:

Interesting. I'm guessing the new scatter gun unlockable might shoot rockets/explosives. Though that doesn't really fit the scout. :wail:

[Antisaint]

Or it just has a kickback. So you shoot your enemy and you both fly separate ways.

[NVM]

I'm guessing it's somehting like the the Pyro's Air, maybe could do some damage though.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Just looking over the thread we have suggested both the gun and bat idea's before.
Also "Fake scout threads are spreading like wildfire in the tf2 forums"
Linky: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=807376

[Wafflez]

Or it just has a kickback. So you shoot your enemy and you both fly separate ways.

I'm hoping it's something like that. Another thing to to blast away an ubering medic.

[Kevinonfire]

Just bought the game. Damnit, it's awesome. I don't know why the fuck I didn't buy this earlier.

[Tempest]

stuff, achievement about batting

Wait so are they making it so the normal bat has knockback now?

EDIT: Beanball: Stun a scout with their own ball
Fuck yes scout baseball custom maps.

Quick Hook: Kill a player in Well before the round starts.
The truth comes out, being able to hit people in Well was never a glitch.

First Blood, Part 2: Kill 5 enemies with the First Blood crit buff.
Since when does getting the first kill in Arena give you a buff?

[Lag]

First Blood, Part 2: Kill 5 enemies with the First Blood crit buff.
Since when does getting the first kill in Arena give you a buff?

Since always.

Forever.

Also, if you crit someone with the bat and/or hit them at the right angle you can send em flying pretty far.

[Matterialize]

Quick Hook: Kill a player in Well before the round starts.
The truth comes out, being able to hit people in Well was never a glitch.


The Force-A-Nature will let scouts jump even farther (makeshift triple-jump). It'll be a way to legitimately hop the train, instead of taking the battlements -> lamppost route or sniping people through that gap.

Or, you could just kill a scout/demo/soldier that hops over to your side of the map.