Team Fortress 2: That Spy Ain't Our Spy

[Rob]

I think sometime around when I disguised myself as an enemy medic and then back stabbed three people in the middle of their base I realized this could be the best game ever made.

Anyone else have it?

Also the screenshot feature is unbelievably fun:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5183/myfootlf4.jpg

[Far]

I don't have it yet but plan on getting it as soon as I can scrounge up enough money. Every trailer has been amazing so far and I can't wait to play it.

[Urser]

It looks fun. I've played TFC and have been waiting for this for quite some time.

I just couldn't be hassled pre-ordering it through Steam. Mind you, it will probably take another year for it to come out in shops here in Australia. :argh:

I've played Fortress Forever aswell, but I doubt it will match this one's brilliance.

[Xearo]

Eugh, my 'Clan' are obsessed with it. Looks good, though. The gameplay is awesome, from what i've heard.

[Matterialize]

This and Portal are the reasons why I just bought The Orange Box. Definitely looking forward to playing it.

[Tempest]

This will definitely be the reason I re-download Steam. I've been waiting for Team Fortress 2 for, hell, it seems like 4 years now. Once I've got all the money I need for my car squared away, this is the first game I plan to buy.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

It looks really fun but it looks like an intense multiplayer game, and I am just not that great at FPSs.

[ArKaiN]

It's awesome. I've a friend playing the Beta since yesterday. He forgot to eat.

[Rob]

Seven replies and not one person who actually plays the game. Hope everyone's postcount is doing okay. I see you nurture them tenderly.

[Matterialize]

I'm playing it. :indiff:

[ArKaiN]

Seven replies and not one person who actually plays the game. Hope everyone's postcount is doing okay. I see you nurture them tenderly.

If I had the beta I sure as hell wouldn't be checking out some internet forum.

[El Mojado]

It looks like a really fun game. It seems like one of those games that you can play for hours and never get bored.

[PshSam]

i plan on getting it, 30 bucks isn't bad. I'm pretty obsessed with DOD: Source right now, but a few of my friends are gonna buy TF2 so ill probably get it also.

I think my local gaming cafe has it, ill check it out this weekend.

[Matterialize]

If you guys are gonna get this, just get the Orange Box for $20 more. Comes with TF2, HL2 Episodes 1 & 2, and Portal (plus some other stuff that I don't care about). Best fifty bucks I ever spent, to be honest.

[Intestiny Destiny]

Seven replies and not one person who actually plays the game. Hope everyone's postcount is doing okay. I see you nurture them tenderly.

Do any of you guys wanna play together?

Also, it is a Rob thread. It is fun to post in Rob threads.

[PshSam]

Do any of you guys wanna play together?

Also, it is a Rob thread. It is fun to post in Rob threads.

he's 4 posts to 10,000, i know I'm already celebrating.

TFC wasn't to great.

[KrazyKellen]

I didn't even know this game was out yet but I do plan on just getting the orange box for 360.

[Rebecca.]

TFC wasn't to great.
Are you kidding me? What is there not to like? TFC is badass.

I don't have 2, but, if I get a little extra money I'm getting it for sure. It looks amazing.

[ArKaiN]

Not only TFC was awesome, but 2 picked up on what we thought was kickass about the first one and just made it ten times better. It's funny, dynamic, fast and has awesome graphics. If you think it's "not that good", go to gamespot and check the trailer.

[Matterialize]

Hey, this has achievements. Awesome. Too bad my server list is broken..?

Seriously, if there are servers up I'd love it if someone could throw me a few IPs.

[Rob]

I've found a new hobby. Spam your side of a closed door with sticky bombs. As soon as anyone opens the door, they instantly get splattered.

[opn4bzns]

It looks fun. I've played TFC and have been waiting for this for quite some time.

I just couldn't be hassled pre-ordering it through Steam. Mind you, it will probably take another year for it to come out in shops here in Australia. :argh:

I've played Fortress Forever aswell, but I doubt it will match this one's brilliance.

I'd buy the orange box on steam if I were you. It'll likely be a lot cheaper.

[Matterialize]

Seriously, if there are servers up I'd love it if someone could throw me a few IPs.

Please? :frown:

[peteaboda1]

My friend has the beta, and I've played it a good amount at his house. It is extremely fun! I've been saved by my own turret (while playing as an engineer) from spies so many times.

I just bought a 360 and am about to get halo 3 though, so I'll most likely wait for it to release as a stand alone game for $20.

[Intestiny Destiny]

Please? :frown:

No.

[PshSam]

This game is so fun i can't even beleive it. I usually play Spy, or medic, and i have devised a pretty fool proof plan on 2forts w/ spy. I'm def gonna buy this game tis so much fun.

[ArKaiN]

Medic seems way overpowered to me so far.

[Jamez5000]

I haven't gotten around to buying it yet for two reasons. A) debt + bills = no extra cash B) Shitty internet for the time being C) Single player games usually suck so waiting for my faster internet.

[Matterialize]

I finally got it to work, no thanks to you assholes.

Medic seems way overpowered to me so far.

Agreed. Also, those Heavy + Medic teams you see running around everywhere.

Spy and Demoman are fun, though. :dance:

[Tyler_Legrand]

C) Single player games usually suck so waiting for my faster internet.

Single player Team Fortress 2?

[Cristo]

He has shitty internet so he can only play the singleplayer mode (if there is one), is what he's saying.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Oh, I just forgot about bots. :frown:

[ArKaiN]

Agreed. Also, those Heavy + Medic teams you see running around everywhere.


http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
I know you guys hate PA but this is perfect.

[Matterialize]

Yeah, I saw that one. The trouble is, the Medic is usually being covered by the Heavy.

I'm so used to Counter-Strike: Source, where you can kill someone in one shot if you aim right. =[

[ryivan]

Yeah, this is fantastic. It's a nice original game that is really well thought out, and in a sea of Halo 3 fanboys its nice to have something like this.

[G_Havoc]

Could someone post some screenshots of the multiplayer, I would sure love to see some.

[PshSam]

Yeah, I saw that one. The trouble is, the Medic is usually being covered by the Heavy.

I'm so used to Counter-Strike: Source, where you can kill someone in one shot if you aim right. =[

Source is complete shit, nuff said.

[Tyler_Legrand]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
I know you guys hate PA but this is perfect.

No we don't

[Jamez5000]

Could someone post some screenshots of the multiplayer, I would sure love to see some.

There are plenty plastered all over the internet, take a gander if you will!

[Matterialize]

Source is complete shit, nuff said.

uh

no?

I really hope some of the achievements are hard to get. After a couple hours' play I'm already 20% done.

[PshSam]

Counter Strike Source has many great features:

- Completely shit hit boxes
- Good graphics
- A physics engine that effects the game only slightly in most cases
-A change in game speed (walking and whatnot) that basically rapes the original design

Yeah.

luckily TF2 isn't Counter Strike.

[Matterialize]

Did you have a bad experience with Source, or something? It's fine. Leave it alone.

I'm loving TF2. More and more. Spy and Sniper are definitely my favourite characters. As a Spy, I did what Rob did in my last game: Disguised myself, took a back route into their territory, came up behind them and knifed four people in the back. Not only that, but I managed to cloak myself in the nick of time and get away again. =D

I did it again after that, but I got killed after 3 more backstabs. Even if you die, it's ridiculously fun - especially when you kill a particular person more than once in a row. It humlitiates them: "Matterialize is DOMINATING Kirkpatrick105!!!". Does the same thing for "revenge" kills, if you kill someone who's dominating you.

Really fucking fun, and no bugs to speak of (at least for me). :dance: I'm so glad I bought this game.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

When the hell did you buy it? It says it doesn't come out until the 10th.

[Matterialize]

The beta comes with Orange Box. =0



And Portal. And Episodes 1&2.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

It says Orange box doesn't come out until the 10th.

[Matterialize]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Matterialize/orangebox-1.png

[PshSam]

Really fucking fun, and no bugs to speak of (at least for me). :dance: I'm so glad I bought this game.

I've actually had a few, mainly graphical bugs, but nothing unbearable. I also noticed some memory leakage (or lag w/e) when i got on sometimes.

[MistyTehMoose]

I finally bought the Orange Box. I've been playing it previously at an internet cafe. Heh... so nerd :(

I love it, it could possibly the game that gets me back into FPS.

Heavies rock.

[opn4bzns]

Bought it on friday.
TF2 is amazing, the graphics, the classes, it's great.
Heavy, Pyro and Spy are my favourites.

[MistyTehMoose]

I actually got quite attached to the medic today. Heavy is still awesome though.

Dman, do you play on Local servers? I usually whore about Gamearena ones.

Not a fan of CTF though.

[SODA]

Bought it last night, letting it download today while I'm at school. It sounds great, I will review it after I try it :evillaugh:

[Matterialize]

Not a fan of CTF though.

I like 2Fort, because it's just so easy to slip into their base and go around knifing people in the back. :D

Spy, Sniper and Demoman are my favourites, but they're all fun to play. The Pyro is great in Granary, and every level has a lot of places that are great for Snipers (they give a fantastic view of areas where people congregate).

I'm gonna go play it now.

[MistyTehMoose]

Yeah, I still can't get into it, I think 2Fort is the only CTF map i have seen.

Control point levels are fun, the Gravelpit is cool.

[Matterialize]

Pretty sure it's the only CTF level right now. :indiff:

[SODA]

I'm digging it, definitely one of the most fun fps's I have played. I really like some of the concepts, like the spy. So far it is king of shallow though. Hopefully it will get better when it is fully released.

[MistyTehMoose]

I thought it was fully released now. It's no longer a beta.

Pretty sure it's the only CTF level right now. :indiff:

I thought so, ahe. But I don't particularly like the CTF format. CP is fun though.

(heh, CP)

[opn4bzns]

I actually got quite attached to the medic today. Heavy is still awesome though.

Dman, do you play on Local servers? I usually whore about Gamearena ones.

Not a fan of CTF though.

Yeah, I'm on GA servers all the time, as "david".
I think spastic colon was on tonight too.

[Matterialize]

I thought so, ahe. But I don't particularly like the CTF format. CP is fun though.

(heh, CP)

Yeah, it's kind of silly that you can't return the flag to your base once your enemy drops it. They can just keep rushing its location and carrying it a little closer to their base each time.

And what do you mean, not beta? I thought it didn't come out until the 10th.

[Cristo]

I'll get it when it comes out methinks. It looks amazing, and all these reviews are really promising problem is I live in Spain and not many Spanish people use the internet let alone play games online so I may have to play in French or British servers which makes my ping/latency like 100 :(

[MistyTehMoose]

Yeah, it's kind of silly that you can't return the flag to your base once your enemy drops it. They can just keep rushing its location and carrying it a little closer to their base each time.

And what do you mean, not beta? I thought it didn't come out until the 10th.

Team fortress 2 is completely out now. The reason it is still as a 'pre-purchase' is because Half Life: Ep 2 and Portal haven't been released yet. I'm pretty sure that's the case.

Yeah, I'm on GA servers all the time, as "david".
I think spastic colon was on tonight too.

Awesome, I play as Moose. Sometimes, if Im playing at the cafe it can only sign me on as 'unknown' though :(

[ArKaiN]

The game still has balance issues. We got a 7-0 winning streak yesterday using all scouts.

[Matterialize]

The Scout's gun is way overpowered. I ran right in front of a Heavy and critical'd his head while he was shooting me. 1-hit KO.

Because you're always moving fast, though, it's difficult to aim the Scout's gun sometimes. Most of my Scout kills are sheer luck at this point; I'll have to adjust my mouse sensitivity or something.

[Sarge51]

Scout Guns sound like Sniper Rifles on Halo 3.

Any kill I get is Sheer luck and sometimes makes me want to adjust my sensitivity.

[ArKaiN]

The Scout's gun is way overpowered. I ran right in front of a Heavy and critical'd his head while he was shooting me. 1-hit KO.

Because you're always moving fast, though, it's difficult to aim the Scout's gun sometimes. Most of my Scout kills are sheer luck at this point; I'll have to adjust my mouse sensitivity or something.

No, it's supposed to be that fast. The team I was playing with was mostly ex-quake players, so they're used to ridiculously fast action. We just zerg rushed every point bunny'ing and shotgunning our way through. Nothing survives 2 or 3 scouts at close range. I'm not even sure how they're going to balance that.

[Spastic]

Yeah, I'm on GA servers all the time, as "david".
I think spastic colon was on tonight too.

Hey, i didn't remember seeing you anywhere. What's the name you play under?

[Matterialize]

No, it's supposed to be that fast.

Yeah, I know. The tradeoff for the Scout gun is that, while it's lethal at almost point-blank range, any farther than that and its strength quickly diminishes. Works well with the Scout's speed, so he can run right up to someone and blow their face off.

I'm handling him better now, but it's still difficult to control him.

[ArKaiN]

Yeah, I know. The tradeoff for the Scout gun is that, while it's lethal at almost point-blank range, any farther than that and its strength quickly diminishes. Works well with the Scout's speed, so he can run right up to someone and blow their face off.

I'm handling him better now, but it's still difficult to control him.
Try and catch some Quake 3 competitive videos. Controlling a Scout is cake. Quake had moments where I seriously felt ill from the screen changing too rapidly.

[Rob]

I'm handling him better now, but it's still difficult to control him.

I hardly ever use the shotty as scout. I just shoot my pistol at the enemy from afar, while running in circles and hopping like a moron. It's a slow way to kill, but I'm harder to hit and usually outlast them.

[Mobius]

I'm actually downloading it right now, I just bought the orange box. A really good deal. I've watched my buddy play this on his computer and I have to say this looks insanely fun and I can't wait to play it. The whole spy thing is really cool.

What are some of your steam names? I'd like to play with some of you.

[SODA]

I take back saying this game was shallow, now that I have played on different maps where having a certain class can be more useful. I have been playing since 12 and its 5am now love this game.

And scout + shotty for me, only have to watch out for pyros really.

[opn4bzns]

Hey, i didn't remember seeing you anywhere. What's the name you play under?

David, as I said in the post you quoted...
I was the guy rambling about spame in Hydro, I think it was.

[MistyTehMoose]

I was on server 11 today, I think I saw a David but I can't remember.

I owned today =D I topped the team for the first time, and we were defending, not attacking.

Also, CTF is growing on me. It's the only game I'll play scout in, easy as pie to get captures with them. I prefer the shotgun, but yeah, if your far away it does shit all.

[Hats of!]

How many have seen "Meet the Demoman"?
I love that he's scottish.

[MistyTehMoose]

i haven't really given the demoman much time, to be honest. He's not all that fun to play with for me.


:heya:

[Hats of!]

I look forward seeing the Medics "Meet the...". A german with rubbergloves.

[Matterialize]

I'm enjoying the Soldier more and more. Before I started using him, I always got pissed because people kept killing me with these ridiculous point-blank rocket blasts, and I really thought it was total bullshit. And it is. But then I started to play as the Soldier, and I realized why: because it's so damn easy to get kills with. Soldier is by far, in my opinion, the most destructive unit in the game. No, not the Heavy. Heavies are sitting ducks for Snipers.

[MistyTehMoose]

it is really easy to get camped on as a heavy with lots of snipers in the game. One thing I would like to see fixed is, a game balance. Like only a certain amount of people can go a certain postion. I personally hate it when I'm a medic and there is more than one other medic playing. They steal all my points >.<

Same with snipers on the other team. Sure it's a good defence, but if everyone is a sniper it's damed hard to get past sometimes.

And spies. Today I was playing a team of literally, about 8 spies and a heavy, medic and pyro. Fucking frustrating >.<

/rant

[Matterialize]

Pyros piss me off sometimes, but the ol' Soldier handles them nicely. =)

Also, I believe that was your thousandth post. Congrats on Explosmateer and all that.

[opn4bzns]

I was on server 11 today, I think I saw a David but I can't remember.


I was on 11, but only for about 5 minutes before TF2 crashed.
The textures were really glitchy while I was playing, hopefully that'll fix itself.

I'm starting to see why people like being engineer so much. It doesn't really require fast reflexes, more strategy.

[StrikeTwelve]

How many have seen "Meet the Demoman"?
I love that he's scottish.

A black scottisch cyclops, that video is so much fun :P

[MistyTehMoose]

I was on 11, but only for about 5 minutes before TF2 crashed.
The textures were really glitchy while I was playing, hopefully that'll fix itself.

I'm starting to see why people like being engineer so much. It doesn't really require fast reflexes, more strategy.

Yeah, it seemed to have a bug where I kept falling through the ground when I died.

Also, I believe that was your thousandth post. Congrats on Explosmateer and all that.

SO it was... haha, I didn't notice til you said that.

[Matterialize]

I'm starting to see why people like being engineer so much. It doesn't really require fast reflexes, more strategy.

The engineer is fun, but my turret never survives long enough to get more than two or three kills. Once the other team realizes it's there, they'll send a spy or someone with explosives to kill it. Or even a sniper, or a heavy. Yeah, I can repair it, but I run out of metal faster than my opponents run out of ammo.

Still, those turrets are fuckin' awesome when they're set up in a good position.

[Rob]

If you've never heard of Team Fortress 2, here's some damn information:

Team Fortress® 2 (TF2) is the sequel to the game that put class-based, multiplayer team warfare on the map. This year’s most anticipated online action game, TF2 delivers new gametypes, a signature art style powered by Valve’s next generation animation technology, persistent player statistics, and more.

Unlike other “class-based” games that offer a variety of combat classes only, Team Fortress 2 packs a wild variety of classes which provide a broad range of tactical abilities and personalities, and lend themselves to a variety of player skills.

Play as the flame-throwing Pyro, the room clearing Heavy, or the Spy, a master of disguises. Other classes include: Scout, Sniper, Medic, Engineer, Demoman, or Soldier.

TF2 features the most advanced graphics of any Source-based game released to date – and the most exciting class-based action ever created.

Basically TF2 lets you do this:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS1.jpg

And this:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS4.jpg

And build these:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS5.jpg

And set people on fire:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS7.jpg

Not sure what's going on here but it looks painful:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS2.jpg

This is me:

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS6.jpg


Here's a bunch of info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Fortress_2) from Wikipedia. Use this thread to discuss how great TF2 is, what your strategies are, and how much ass you kick. Post lots of screenshots.

Maybe we can get some sort of Explosm group together or something.

http://flashasylum.com/db/files/Misc/TF2/TFS3.jpg

MEDIC!!

[Hickabod]

Medic!

I think its got potential, but with the limit of only 6 maps the online FPS games are currently being overshadowed by CoD4, thats on Xbox Live anyway. If it wasn't for The Orange Box I probably wouldn't have played it.

[Rob]

I don't think TF2 is being overshadowed by anything. There are usually hundreds of available servers, most of them full or nearly full.

I play on Steam. Maybe it's different on Live.

[DieHard]

Yeah but you see the difference between Team Fortress 2 and CoD4 online, is that TF2 is actually fun. Too bad computer players couldn't play with people on the console.

[Hickabod]

I don't think TF2 is being overshadowed by anything. There are usually hundreds of available servers, most of them full or nearly full.

I play on Steam. Maybe it's different on Live.

I don't mean server wise. I mean in popularity, it's a good game, I agree with that, but when I look on my Xbox Live Friends list I hardly ever see people playing TF2, everyone is on CoD4.

[Rob]

Maybe your friends are boring? Just a thought.

Lets keep COD4 talk out of this thread.

[Tyler_Legrand]

If I was organised enough to easily grief in Team Fortress 2, I'd do it.

Fun new ways to play! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoKaoJu0m4)

Try them yourself! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ)

It looks like so much fun.

[Hickabod]

Thinking about it, I might give TF2 another shot, it is pretty fun, and has some good humour in it, just kind of frustrating when you're first learning how to play it. I favor the Sniper (as I've always use that weapon given the choice). What does everyone else play as?

[Assassin]

The game surely looks like alot of fun, but I don't want to buy the whole Orange Box for it and don't have the money anyway..

[Rob]

The game surely looks like alot of fun, but I don't want to buy the whole Orange Box for it and don't have the money anyway..
Thanks for the info. Keep us posted.

[Assassin]

I should make blogs in the Showcase

[Benjaman]

TF2 is awesome. I was just playing, like 5 minutes ago. Unfortunately, I have it for 360 and there isn't anyone I know that has it. If you do have it, tell me so we can play, an Explosm clan/group would be cool, too. My favorite class is the engineer, hes like a medic/soldier/sniper/scout/engineer/metal cabinet/transporter all in one :hmm:

[Sarge51]

It really reminds me of Shadowrun when someone yells 'Medic'. I think about the guy in shadowrun saying 'I'm bleeding out!'

It's a great game, but I just wish there were more and more classes. This game rocks so much.

[Fraudulence_Raft]

TF2 fucking rules, and maybe I'd join if my xbox was unbroken.

But it's an awesome game, probably the fastest paced FPS I've ever played. I'm pretty well-rounded with all of the characters, though I particularly like the mechanic and the Heavy. Over all though there are a lot of people who are better than me, but I can be pretty good if I try at it.

[Pyro]

It's fucking awesome. There's a medic achievements pack coming to the pc version. That's cool because of the achievements but there are already an ok number of good medics and the achievements will just cause an overflow of bad medic achievement hunters.

[Spastic]

/

[Matterialize]

Maybe we can get some sort of Explosm group together or something.


We should make an Explosm Steam Group! :hmm:


I still remember the day I had five people dominated at once in 2Fort. I can't find the screen shot of the leaderboard, but it's in my top player stats here:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Matterialize/pwntge.png

Soldiers are easy to kick ass with.


EDIT:
I play TF2 religiously, if anyone wants to add me as a friend, my steam email is

iriqouspliskin69@yahoo.com

Holy, holy shit. Would you by any chance be the Iroquois Pliskin that played on the Indy Powerplant CS:S server?

[Lag]

TF2 really is great in how many ways you can play every map. And there are dozens of user made maps that can keep you busy if you somehow get bored with the originals.

Also, anyone know if anymore of the "Meet the Team" videos are going to be made/released? Fucking love those.

[hardcoresk8r69]

The one thing I hate about 2fort is that if it's instant spawn then there are always loads of snipers. I prefer at least a 10 second waiting limit. It sometimes just becomes a huge stalemate.

But other than that the game is solid and I love playing it, it's just really balanced and was worth the wait.

[Matterialize]

2Fort's actually my favourite map. I wish they had released more original CTF maps, because I prefer only having one vital point to defend instead of two or three control points. It's less complicated that way.

As for the videos, I was really hoping they'd release one for every class. They did the first four, and then, just... kinda stopped. Maybe because all the hype over the game's release is pretty much gone. They don't really have a reason to keep promoting the game any more than any other recent title.

[Spastic]

Holy, holy shit. Would you by any chance be the Iroquois Pliskin that played on the Indy Powerplant CS:S server?

Nope, not that I can remember anyways, I have played on a lot of servers.

[Tempest]

I dunno, I play TF2 every once in a while, but it's not my cup of tea. That might have something to do with the fact that I suck at it, but I just couldn't get too into it. That's not to put the game down or anything, it's awesome and I at least enjoyed dying horribly, it was just frustrating. I don't know if it had anything to do with me playing with total strangers or not, but I'd certainly be willing to play with some Explosm guys. I did fairly decent as the sniper, at least.

[opn4bzns]

Two new TF2 maps are coming, and one new game mode. One of the maps is badlands, a remake of a TFC map, and the gamemode (and map) is goldrush, where the players escort a minecart to the enemy base. Also, valve are releasing unlockables for each class, unlocked by achieving... achievements. The only one they've announced is a different medigun, which boosts the player being healed to double hp, "permanently". There's some debate to how permanent this is, however.
Source. (http://wire.ggl.com/2008/01/23/team-fortress-2-to-get-rebalanced-with-unlockable-weapons/) (It's also on a bunch of other gaming sites, so it's legit.)

[Hickabod]

Two new TF2 maps are coming, and one new game mode. One of the maps is badlands, a remake of a TFC map, and the gamemode (and map) is goldrush, where the players escort a minecart to the enemy base. Also, valve are releasing unlockables for each class, unlocked by achieving... achievements. The only one they've announced is a different medigun, which boosts the player being healed to double hp, "permanently". There's some debate to how permanent this is, however.
Source. (http://wire.ggl.com/2008/01/23/team-fortress-2-to-get-rebalanced-with-unlockable-weapons/) (It's also on a bunch of other gaming sites, so it's legit.)

Does anyone know if this is going to affect the 360 or Xbox versions?

[Sarge51]

From what I hear, it's only for the PC Version. But you never know.

[Matterialize]

Goldrush sounds fun. I agree with what the site says, though, about the possible futility of these unlockables. If it really turns out to be like that, at least the players will have a little more variety in their weapons.

[Rob]

goldrush, where the players escort a minecart to the enemy base.

How does the cart move? Does the whole team just kind of follow it around, or do you get it from checkpoint to checkpoint?

[Matterialize]

The page he linked to says that "the minecart moves faster when more Blue players are near it, but will stop entirely if a single Red soldier approaches". So the Blue team really does just have to escort it to the end.

[Far]

Can anyone tell me if the 360 version has a single player mode in which you can play against bots?

[Rob]

The page he linked to says that "the minecart moves faster when more Blue players are near it, but will stop entirely if a single Red soldier approaches". So the Blue team really does just have to escort it to the end.
Wouldn't that make blue engineers kinda useless? They aren't exactly a very mobile class.

Can anyone tell me if the 360 version has a single player mode in which you can play against bots?

Don't have it but I'm going to guess no, because the PC version doesn't and Valve usually gives the extra perks to us Steamers.

[Hickabod]

Can anyone tell me if the 360 version has a single player mode in which you can play against bots?

I can say for fact it does not. TF2 on 360 (and PC for that matter) is online Player V Player only

[Spastic]

Can anyone tell me if the 360 version has a single player mode in which you can play against bots?

It doesn't, but I hope sometime in a future update they will add them, hopefully for PC at least.

[Hickabod]

It doesn't, but I hope sometime in a future update they will add them, hopefully for PC at least.

I seriously doubt there will be an update to include bots for either 360 or PC, however a Fan-made Mod for the PC version is far more likely, but they are always far from perfect (if one is ever made at all)

[Pyro]

Wouldn't that make blue engineers kinda useless? They aren't exactly a very mobile class.

Not totally, they can still build dispensers, teleporters and sentry guns on the point where they're team is having hard time pushing the cart forward, so the enemy won't totally block them off from the cart.

[opn4bzns]

Wouldn't that make blue engineers kinda useless? They aren't exactly a very mobile class.


Depends whether they can build on the cart, really.

Also, the update today brings a bunch of bug fixes, but more interestingly:
# Added new capture the flag map CTF_Well

[SODA]

I plan on starting to play again when the new class upgrades come out, but in the meantime here is my stats.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7666/statstl9.png

[Tempest]

Started to play a bit more, racked up a few hours over the past couple of days.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/tempestdevil/TF2-1.png

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/tempestdevil/TF2-2.png

That should indicated pretty clearly which classes I'm not quite fond of. :fmita: Me and Spastic Colon played a game on CTF_Well where we were both engineers, and we basically dominated our side of the map. So much so that we had ubercharged medics and heavys coming in for the sole reason of eliminating us.

[Lag]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l149/Poshnak/tf2playtime.png
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l149/Poshnak/tf2stats1.png
And I got that PC version.
Also trying to get more play time with Spy but, I love the Demo so much too.

[Spastic]

That should indicated pretty clearly which classes I'm not quite fond of. :fmita: Me and Spastic Colon played a game on CTF_Well where we were both engineers, and we basically dominated our side of the map. So much so that we had ubercharged medics and heavys coming in for the sole reason of eliminating us.

That shit was fun, except for that damn spy who kept coming up and taking out my fucking dispenser.

[MistyTehMoose]

The thread title reminded me of this vid:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84

It's awesome.

An explosm server would be awesome, but getting everyone on at the same time would be a challenge.

[Matterialize]

Me and Tempest might pay for one, if our financial situations change for the better.

[opn4bzns]

Lag would be a problem. Presumably it would be hosted in the US, which would make it really laggy for anyone outside the US.

[MistyTehMoose]

And thus, laggy for everyone.

I generally only play in the aus servers.

[Tempest]

I don't think lag would be as big of a problem as you think, as long as you have decent internet. I play a CS:S server that's based in Texas, but at the time of night that I play it, it's almost all Aus and UK players, and it's not too terribly laggy. They have a bit higher ping, but it's not like lag that makes the game unplayable.

Also, if me and Matt go through with this too, there better be an engineer spot open for me and Spastic Colon at all times. :argh:

[opn4bzns]

decent internet.

Here's where Australians are going to have problems. I occasionally play on a few different US servers, and my ping is always 350+, which is almost unplayable. Compare that to pings below 20 on Australian servers and Australians don't have a lot of motivation to play on an American one. Still the UK probably has better internet than us and is closer to America, so a server might still be worth it for them.

[Spastic]

Also, if me and Matt go through with this too, there better be an engineer spot open for me and Spastic Colon at all times. :argh:

This man speaks the truth. I also require a Demoman spot at all times.

[Pyro]

Playing tf2 with Explosm people might just be orgasmic. Or the complete opposite, we'll just have to see.

[MistyTehMoose]

It could go either way, we'll have to see.

[SLjimbolian]

I'd totally be down for an Explosm server as well. I don't think it would be much of an issue because the admin of the server can set the player limit to something like 24 or 32.

Also, any word on when the new maps will be out?

[Spastic]

I'd totally be down for an Explosm server as well. I don't think it would be much of an issue because the admin of the server can set the player limit to something like 24 or 32.

Also, any word on when the new maps will be out?

If you're talking about CTF_Well, it's already out, me and Tempest dominate that map all the time. Though people can create their own maps so I don't see why Valve will release any other new ones anytime soon. What with the upcoming changes to achievements and all.

[SLjimbolian]

True. I've already downloaded a couple of user-created maps that are awesome, so it's no big deal.

[Tempest]

If you're talking about CTF_Well, it's already out, me and Tempest dominate that map all the time. Though people can create their own maps so I don't see why Valve will release any other new ones anytime soon. What with the upcoming changes to achievements and all.

:hf: Engineer chokepoint for the win. Also, SLjimbolian, the admin of the server can't change the player limit at any time. :ahe: When you "purchase" the server you purchase a certain maximum player limit. For example, me and Matterialize's CS:S server is a 20 man, max.

[JonC]

If my computer was able to run it, I'd play this game, but unfortunately it can't. One of these days I'm going to upgrade my computer though. In the meantime, I want it for 360, because well, it looks loads of fun.

Is it hard to play at all? Just curious.

[Tempest]

If my computer was able to run it, I'd play this game, but unfortunately it can't. One of these days I'm going to upgrade my computer though. In the meantime, I want it for 360, because well, it looks loads of fun.

Is it hard to play at all? Just curious.

Not particularly. It probably takes less than 10 minutes to figure out a decent strategy with each class, maybe a bit longer for Medic, Engineer and Spy. Spy is probably the hardest class to play, with I would say Pyro being the easiest. As a Spy you need to pick your poison. Figure out what you're going to disguise yourself as, scope out the other team a bit, figure out who is the class that you want to be, and where they are. If they're sitting in the base and you plan to go into the base, disguising yourself as them is probably not the best idea. Personally, when I see someone with my name go by, I get suspicious.

[Rob]

Is it hard to play at all? Just curious.

There's a learning curve, but TF2 is one of those games that's even fun while you're getting your ass kicked.

When I started out I didn't know what I was doing, but I was having a blast. Then everything made sense after playing a couple of days.

[MistyTehMoose]

I was lucky enough to play it at a lan first, that way my friends could help me out. But like Rob said, even if you don't know what you are doing, it's still kickass. It might be a good idea to learn the maps, are they the same on the 360?

My computer is pretty shit, all you really need is a semi-decent video card and then just turn everything to the lowest spec possible. It's not pretty but at least you can play.

[Killer Carebear]

It might be a good idea to learn the maps, are they the same on the 360?

Well, Dustbowl, Granary, Hydro, 2fort, Gravel Pit... hrm I may have forgotten something. They all are only one default gametype (unique for each map of course).

In general the 360 version has 16 max player, no new content yet, lag issues, etc. If you can get it for PC, get it.

[MistyTehMoose]

I am assuming it wuld be much easier to play on the PC as well. As you know, it was designed for that.

[Tempest]

My computer is pretty shit, all you really need is a semi-decent video card and then just turn everything to the lowest spec possible. It's not pretty but at least you can play.

This works rather well, though you should probably take breaks every once in a while if you have a shit computer. Me and Spastic just played a game for.. Hell, I don't know, almost 2 hours, and my computer just froze up a few minutes ago after a Pyro flamed me. :frown:

[Spastic]

This works rather well, though you should probably take breaks every once in a while if you have a shit computer. Me and Spastic just played a game for.. Hell, I don't know, almost 2 hours, and my computer just froze up a few minutes ago after a Pyro flamed me. :frown:

We would have capped too if you didn't freeze! As far as system requirements go it's a Source game, and to my knowledge they try to make Source games accessible to all. I know I don't have the best computer and I can run everything on high with 4x AA. My graphics card is only a x1650 pro (512 MB).

though I know someone who runs this game with a single core 2.2 GHZ processor and some other junk 128 MB card, with the graphics dulled down he doesn't seem to have much of a problem.

[scrapz]

http://www.scrapz.org/stuff/tf2-stats_sml.jpg (http://www.scrapz.org/stuff/tf2-stats.jpg)

I find the easiest class to be the Soldier, followed by the Pyro. Demoman is surprisingly tough to learn because they suck in close combat with no "short-range" (ie: pistol, shotgun) weapon, besides the broken bottle.

Spy is by far the hardest, and it's getting harder because people are getting paranoid. You seriously can't go anywhere without getting shot, even by your own team.

[MistyTehMoose]

Some of those stats are mine :(

[scrapz]

Some of those stats are mine :(

The Pyro, Sniper and Heavy, yes. That Spy and Engy count is mine biznatch.

[MistyTehMoose]

And the soldier!

[Urser]

Sniper is definately my favourite now. I've Spied quite a few times, but yeah... it's really hard.

But Sniping just seems to be nice and easy in certain maps. A lot of custom maps I've played tend to have lots of great areas for it.

But damn, you guys have been playing for ages. I only just got back into it.

[Tempest]

Mein Current Stats (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/tempestdevil/TF2stats.png)

See if you can guess what my favorite class is. :fmita: When me and Spastic team up on 2Fort or ctf_well, we dominate, no questions asked. We've on several different occasions had ubercharged Soldiers or Heavys use their charge for the sole purpose of destroying our sentries.

[Spastic]

My TF2 stats (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/solidsnake313/TFstats.png)

I love the Demoman almost more than any other class. But playing as engineer is also really damn fun!

[Rob]

We got captured in the last few seconds by two pairs of uber heavy/medics. I snagged a pretty cool screenshot. The medic looks creepier than usual for some reason.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6760/sweetsj9.jpg

[Pyro]

I'll post some too, I love how well you can see the characters personality as their faces change while fighting.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2079/cpdustbowl0000cw4.png

Spy strutting his stuff.


http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6996/graveyardpimpislookinggsd3.png

Awesome.

[opn4bzns]

Giving this an almighty bump (the rules said it was ok) to call attention to the fact that the new map, cp_badlands, is out. It's quite fun, it's like a more vertical version of the other CPs, giving scouts a bit of an advantage. There were about 4 in all the rounds I've played of it so far. Thoughts anyone?

[FlamingPeanuts]

Yeah I'm loving the new map, its probably the best in my opinion but that might be because I haven't played it as much as the others. Yeah scouts do have advantage but I think that the engineers have been given the most as there are so many good spots for them that have obviously been created for them.

[opn4bzns]

but I think that the engineers have been given the most as there are so many good spots for them that have obviously been created for them.

Yeah, engis have been balanced pretty well. They can get a lot of kills with a sentry, but they can't singlehandedly hold down an area like they can on some maps.

[Pyro]

It's a really nice map, but what I'm really looking forward for is the Goldrush map.

[MistyTehMoose]

I'm still a 2fort gal mahself.

[Rob]

2fort never ends if there are reasonably good people on each team.

[Tempest]

I'm not a huge fan of CP maps in general. I'll play them, but mostly what I go for is ctf_well and 2fort. Engineer heaven. :hmm: I've had games in 2fort last 2+ hours with no captures, for some odd reason that's fun to me.

[MistyTehMoose]

2fort never ends if there are reasonably good people on each team.

Definitely. Although I have starting playing spy, and it's hard if there is more than one. :S

Other that that, pyro or engineer is alot of fun.

[Pyro]

I hate kamikaze spies, there were like 3 spies from each team once in 2fort, who had all given up on braking the enemies defenses because they sucked at it and charged at anybody who dared to walk on the bridge.

Luckily they also attacked pyros.

[Intestiny Destiny]

I've really been getting into Badlands recently.

The incredibly quick last capture point makes it more interesting.

[scrapz]

Since I'm too much of a n00b to make a new post, it's going to have to go here.

I'm currently in the process of setting up a US based dedicated server for TF2. Most of it is already done, I've just got a few issues to iron out (effing AMD bug). My question is, how many people are going to want to play?

There'll be at least one 24 slot server, but I'll probably have room for another 1 or 2, depending on demand.

Just want to try to hit the sweet spot.

[Crysis]

Blandlands is teh shit
probably 2nd to 2fort, or just ahead.

on a related note, is it just me who hates those gayboy soldiers?
:flamewar:
they take little or no skill, average in every way and are as boring as hell :sleep:

and plus they keep killing me. how dare they?

My scores(not bothering with a s/s) :
spy: 9.6H, MP= 19, MK=12
pyro:flame:: 8.1H, MP=14, MK=12
demoman: 2.5H, MP=12, MK=9
sniper: 1.8H, MP=11, MK=9
soldier: 0.2 hours, then i :bangkill:

'cus i take the classes which take talent :cheerio:

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[Intestiny Destiny]

Since I'm too much of a n00b to make a new post, it's going to have to go here.

I'm currently in the process of setting up a US based dedicated server for TF2. Most of it is already done, I've just got a few issues to iron out (effing AMD bug). My question is, how many people are going to want to play?

There'll be at least one 24 slot server, but I'll probably have room for another 1 or 2, depending on demand.

Just want to try to hit the sweet spot.

Yeah, I'll be on it.

[Pyro]

Blandlands is teh shit
probably 2nd to 2fort, or just ahead.

on a related note, is it just me who hates those gayboy soldiers?
they take little or no skill, average in every way and are as boring as hell

and plus they keep killing me. how dare they?

My scores(not bothering with a s/s) :
spy: 9.6H, MP= 19, MK=12
pyro: 8.1H, MP=14, MK=12
demoman: 2.5H, MP=12, MK=9
sniper: 1.8H, MP=11, MK=9
soldier: 0.2 hours, then i

'cus i take the classes which take talent


Soldiers don't take any less skill than those you listed, and also, I imagine you being one of those microphone spammers with really high pitched voices.

[Tempest]

Until you've mastered the Medic I don't think you have any room to be knocking anybody about how the classes you use take skill. :ahe: Medic is probably the hardest class to use effectively on the game.

[Pyro]

Yeah that's why I thought that the new upcoming achievement for medic where you have to be the top scorer with a medic is just great, because that doesn't happen by accident, only people who have learned to use the medic properly can do that.

[Spastic]

Medic is an easy ass class, for me at least. All you have to do is dodge fire and heal, run away if your guy dies. It was harder when you had to actually hold left click to heal, but still wasn't very hard.

[JonC]

Okay, I got TF2 now, with the Orange Box, and man, taht shit was hard at first. It was so odd to play, I couldn't get used to it. After a while though, I got better. I like it, and want to play more so I can get better and whatnot.

[Rob]

Wow, a rare glimpse into the mind of JonC aka the Ginger Douche.

[DrunkCat]

I can own you guys with my eyes closed.

[SLjimbolian]

I think Scout's the hardest to master. He's quite useful in Capture The Flag maps, but other than that, he's rather weak and can be taken down quickly.

[JonC]

Wow, a rare glimpse into the mind of JonC aka the Ginger Douche.

Robert, someone I want to stab you for whatever reasons, but other times, I just want to like, shake your hand gleefully or something.


I was doing really good last night, as the Spy and Sniper. It's so fun tricking the other team.

[opn4bzns]

Maybe it's because I've been playing dark 'n' dull CoD4 multiplayer and have just come back to TF2, but I just had an amazing game on hydro. Have they tweaked it or something?

[JonC]

Hey, to you taht play it on Xbox360, does it sometimes have crazy lag fits? Like the map is messing up or something? Say, I'm the sniper and when you zoom in, you know how it does that flicker thing, well sometimes it starts going crazy and keeps doing it. And that's just one of the problems.

It's very odd.

[scrapz]

I've finally got a TF2 dedicated server up for you guys. Word of advice, if you want to try one on your own, go Intel.

Simply connect to "geeksftw.com" - add it to your favorites even.

I'll still need to tweak the server settings (ie: caps, rounds, time etc) but everything should work at it's current default.

I'll be setting up a forum, as well as game stats using PsychoStats. I'll let you know when I get around to that though.

For now, just let me know how well it works. It's a US based server, but I was getting a ping of ~200 which is pretty decent, so us AU folk shouldn't feel it too much.

[JonC]

Dedicated servers are PC only, am I correct? Looks, like I'm screwed then.

[scrapz]

I don't know. There are 360 options in the config file. I may have to specify some stuff for it to work though. You could always give it a go.

[JonC]

Well, I mean, would I be able to connect to it from my version of TF2, because I might not have that option, ya know?

[scrapz]

Ah, I see. I have no idea. I've never touched the 360 version. I'm sure there's an option somewhere to add a server?

In other news, there's now stats (www.geeksftw.com/stats/) and a discussion forum (www.geeksftw.com/forum/) available. Stats are updated every 30 minutes. Use the forums to tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[Rob]

New update!

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Added "Custom" tab to the server browser
Servers can now specify metatags describing the custom rules they've adopted
Players can use tag filtering to find servers running the custom rules they want to play
Added options for servers who want to become custom games: Disable critical hits (tf_weapon_criticals), eliminate respawn times (mp_disable_respawn_times), and raise maxplayers above 24


Initial release of Tournament mode (mp_tournament)
UI for handling team naming, ready mode, and win results
Disables team player limits, autobalancing, and intermission


Class balancing
Reduced Soldier's maximum rocket reserve ammo from 36 to 16
Reduced Demoman's maximum sticky bomb reserve ammo from 30 to 16
Reduced Demoman's maximum grenade launcher reserve ammo from 40 to 24


General
Added protection against voice command spamming. Dramatic reduction in teleporters needed
Fixed mp_timelimit ending the map during the middle of a round on maps like Dustbowl and GravelPit
Fixed "lastdisguise" command not remembering if you were disguised as your own team
Added "Toggle Disguise Team" binding in Options->Keyboard to toggle the disguise team for the Spy's PDA
Changed PDA menus to accept keys bound to "slot1", "slot2", etc., and "slot10" cancels
Fixed Spectator targetID not using team colors
Changed team autobalance code to not balance the teams when the active round timer shows less than 60 seconds
Fixed "-maxplayers" on the command line not correctly setting the maxplayers value for the server
Fixed Badlands never having Sudden Death triggered
Fixed Engineer being able to detonate buildings that are being sapped
Changed Engineer buildings to detonate when a player disconnects instead of blinking out
Fixed potential client crash for players being healed by a Medic or dispenser
Made several improvements to server-side stat reporting (not related to individual player stats)

Demo and soldier got extremely nerfed. :aaa:

It's funny because just an hour or so before the update hit, I was telling someone that it's ridiculously easy to hide behind something as demo and launch stickies from a totally safe spot. This should cut back on that.

[MistyTehMoose]

Its taking forever to download :(

[Spastic]

My favorite class, noooooooo!!! The anti voice spamming makes me sad.

[SODA]

Added protection against voice command spamming. Dramatic reduction in teleporters needed

Spastic will be pissed.

edit: Haha nevermind he already saw it.

[MistyTehMoose]

I'm kind of glad. I hate the scout's voice so very much.

[Mafiaboss]

Sad for the no more spamming shit... hurray for soldiers and demomen nerfs, but it is still not enough: the ammunition is not a problem for those classes... the only difference now is that the soldier can only kill 16 people instead of 36 without getting ammunitions... and again, they can collect any fallen weapon for ammo.

[opn4bzns]

Bastards. Having some hyper scout zooming past yelling NEED A DISPENSER HERE never failed to make me smile. I'm kind of pissed about the demoman and soldier reductions, but they were kind of stupidly overpowered before.

[Lag]

and again, they can collect any fallen weapon for ammo.

You mean like every other class in the game?

[Tempest]

Bastards. Having some hyper scout zooming past yelling NEED A DISPENSER HERE never failed to make me smile. I'm kind of pissed about the demoman and soldier reductions, but they were kind of stupidly overpowered before.

Still are, you mean. It's bullshit that as a Pyro I can be killed by one fucking sticky bomb that a demoman drops, when it takes me literally 30 seconds of straight flamethrowing to kill them. I don't mind soldiers so much because the rockets aren't hard to dodge, but I definitely think that if they shoot you point blank with a fucking rocket they should at least take a LITTLE splash damage. As it stands now I don't think they take any splash unless it hits a wall.

[gimp]

I think I'll join

[HappinessMan]

Demoman! NO! :wail:

[MistyTehMoose]

Still are, you mean. It's bullshit that as a Pyro I can be killed by one fucking sticky bomb that a demoman drops, when it takes me literally 30 seconds of straight flamethrowing to kill them. I don't mind soldiers so much because the rockets aren't hard to dodge, but I definitely think that if they shoot you point blank with a fucking rocket they should at least take a LITTLE splash damage. As it stands now I don't think they take any splash unless it hits a wall.
Or the floor. The trick is to always aim for the person's feet.

[Tempest]

Or the floor. The trick is to always aim for the person's feet.

That's what I meant by wall, is the general solid ground area. It's bullshit that the explosion doesn't damage them when it's off another player, though.

[FlamingPeanuts]

What about hitting your own team? That surely shouldn't hurt you. Also it should defiantly hurt you less than them, I thought it did hurt you a bit. Anyway they will probably be hitting you with a spade because there out of ammo, it runs out so fast now. Pyros should do more damage when close, because its just not funny running round a heavy until your out of ammo.

[Matterialize]

That's what I meant by wall, is the general solid ground area. It's bullshit that the explosion doesn't damage them when it's off another player, though.

Uh, doesn't it? Soldiers have hit me point-blank with a rocket and blown themselves up. I've done it to people as well.

[FlamingPeanuts]

Gold rush, coming out next month. Looking good!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/184240.html

[JonC]

Guys, here soon, hopefully, I'm about to get a computer with a decent video card and such, which I'm just going to use for gaming, so maybe I'll get TF2 for it and be able to play with you guys.

But until then, if it happens, I'll keep playing the 360 version. Can't wait to JonC the servers. Ha.

[Rob]

Gold rush, coming out next month. Looking good!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/184240.html
Whoa. That looks awesome/long.

[GCBC]

Gold rush, coming out next month. Looking good!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/184240.html

That map is absolutely huge. I already run around lost and confused a lot of the time now, I can only imagine playing on that one.

[Rob]

How does spawning work in goldrush?

[MistyTehMoose]

Holy shit. I don't know if I'll like that one, seems very badlands-esque to me.

How does spawning work in goldrush?

I am assuming it'll be like dustbowl/badlands where you spawn at either end and you have to try and catch the middle point, and all others will be locked, etc.

[Rob]

What I'm wondering is do you always spawn at your first spot regardless of where the cart is? Or does the spawn point move up when the cart hits certain spots.

[Matterialize]

Spawns probably move with the cart. Think how frustrating it would be for a Soldier or Heavy to run all the way to the far end of a level that huge. The battle could significantly shift two or three times before you even get to the action.

[FlamingPeanuts]

I think its red defending, and blue attacking. Those points look like checkpoints so I guess blue has a time limit to get forward to the next point. I would assume as you work forward the spawn points are the last checkpoint you got to, and the reds would move back a cp each time.

EDIT: Anyone played and "es_*" maps? there amazing, like gold rush but unofficial versions. Its good as its hardly ever a stale mate due to the constantly moving objective.

[Tempest]

Speaking of spawns, I think everyone that runs a surf server needs to figure out some form of spawn protection. Reference this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xWQ44od0bk) for massive spawn camping and hilarity.

[Jino]

This is why I don't play in those servers Tempest, my suckyness at surfing aside. >_>

[Spastic]

Speaking of spawns, I think everyone that runs a surf server needs to figure out some form of spawn protection. Reference this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xWQ44od0bk) for massive spawn camping and hilarity.

That sure was a fun game though, here is a screen I managed to take about halfway in.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/solidsnake313/domd-1.png

[MistyTehMoose]

:aaa: I would have hated you with the passion of a thousand gods.

[Lag]

See those two guys up on the blue team with the highest points?
They were still there before and after we left. :indiff:

[BKS]

I have a really strong urge to buy The Orange Box, and this is one of the compelling reasons. A long time to go, I thought that Counterstrike was TF, so I bought that instead, hoping for class warfare. I was wrong. :(

[Tempest]

I seem to be having some issues, and I wonder if anyone can help me. Starting yesterday, I've been unable to connect to any TF2 servers. It opens up the server info box and no matter how many times I hit "Join Game" it tells me "Server is not responding."

However, I can join servers on Counterstrike and Half-Life 2 Deathmatch just fine, so I don't think it's an internet problem. Just really fucking annoying since I can't play TF2 now. :ahe:

[OoooF4LiFe]

I seem to be having some issues, and I wonder if anyone can help me. Starting yesterday, I've been unable to connect to any TF2 servers. It opens up the server info box and no matter how many times I hit "Join Game" it tells me "Server is not responding."

However, I can join servers on Counterstrike and Half-Life 2 Deathmatch just fine, so I don't think it's an internet problem. Just really fucking annoying since I can't play TF2 now. :ahe:

1. Defrag the game cache. Probably not a solution at all, but never hurts.

2. I'd give this (http://www.teamfortress2fort.com/forums/t/CannotConnecttoANYTF2Server-3586.aspx) and this (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1232320) a read. Wouldn't make any sense to me if it was working and then just shit out, but I've seen dumber things...

3. Clean sweep, and reinstall it. Unfortunately sometimes thats the only way to fix some problems with steam.


I'd go through it in that order anyway. After playing CS:S for a couple years, you just kinda get use to the routine. Try something, look into a weird reason, reinstall.

Reinstalling fixes the problem more times than not

[JonC]

I want to try the PC version rather badly. Mainly due to the fact I've heard it doesn't act up like the 360 version does. Hell, my 360 is more prone to freezing while playing this game, and the people I play with experience it too. But I can play another 360 game and it never freezes and wahtnot. So, what the hell happened with Valve and them making this game for the console?

It seems to me as if they fucked up or something. But then again, they're primarily a computer gaming company. I do see why some say gaming on PC is superior when compared to gaming on consoles.

[MaxAlcolo]

I installed that game today and went on the Explosm server for maybe 5 minutes before I left for 10 minutes to fix something. When I tried lauching TF2 again, I got this:

Failed to launch D3D device !

I'm currently trying to fix this, but I would also like to know if anyone got that problem before and how they solved it. I know I changed the resolution in the options the first time I played, but that's pretty much all I played with.

Edit: It seems all fixed. I updated the drivers and rebooted my computer.

[opn4bzns]

I want to try the PC version rather badly. Mainly due to the fact I've heard it doesn't act up like the 360 version does. Hell, my 360 is more prone to freezing while playing this game, and the people I play with experience it too. But I can play another 360 game and it never freezes and wahtnot. So, what the hell happened with Valve and them making this game for the console?

It seems to me as if they fucked up or something. But then again, they're primarily a computer gaming company. I do see why some say gaming on PC is superior when compared to gaming on consoles.
I think EA handled the port actually, someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

[badumpbumpbump]

My brother found a really interesting 4chan server on this game. It got old fast though...

I think that the classes in this game are a bit too simplistic, even if that balances them out.

[cabhats]

Haha that second vid had me laughing so hard. I must acquire this!

[Tef]

Intox has spawn protection.

[Tempest]

Intox has spawn protection.

I wouldn't spawn camp on Intox's surf server anyway, because I actually play on that server.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Minor update: Meet the Scout.

Googlymoogly. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGbWGs2SRe8)

[Lag]

Minor update: Meet the Scout.

Googlymoogly. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGbWGs2SRe8)

Minor?!
Also, fucking finally.

[Matterialize]

Restart steam and then open your browser (firefox or whatever) and put this in the address bar:

steam://run/5032

Accept any application launch thingies it asks for.
Meet the Scout will be added to your My Media list in Steam.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Minor?!
Also, fucking finally.

Well, it's not like it affects the gameplay at all. :hmm:

[opn4bzns]

Bumpity bump because Goldrush is out!
I'm about to try it out, if anyone isn't playing GTA IV.
Releasing it on the same day as IV was a terrible idea, though.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I played a few hours ago. Dam it's a fun map to play. Especially as the spy. Those back stabs are just too easy sometimes. Anyone got the new medic achievements? It also seems that they are releasing them for all the classes.

[MaxAlcolo]

I tried to play last night, but it ending up being a circlejerk of medics on every server so I left. Hopefully all the hype about it will go down so I can actually try it myself tonight.

[Lag]

Bumpity bump because Goldrush is out!
I'm about to try it out, if anyone isn't playing GTA IV.
Releasing it on the same day as IV was a terrible idea, though.

Right, because it might detract sales?

Thus far, the new medic weapons can be substituted in place of the old ones if you so choose. Each new weapon matches one of the old ones in what it is, but differs in it's effect.

The BluttSauger (blood sucker in german):
It is a different needle gun which gives you 3 health per needle hit but no longer can crit.
You can get it after unlocking one third of the 39 new achievements.

The Critzcreig:
The new medigun, but instead of making your patient invulnerable, it gives them the equivalant time of non-stop crit shots.
Useable after two thirds of unlocked achievements.


The Ubersaw:
The replacement for the bonesaw, because if you manage to get this after unlocking all the achievements, there's no question you'll use this instead. If you manage to land four succesful hits with this thing, you can fully charge your uber from a completely empty bar. (as in, you gain one fourth your uber meter per hit).

Good luck on some of these achievements, you'll need it.

Valvue also told peoples to expect the next installments for the other classes real quick if all goes well for this medic patch.

[MistyTehMoose]

Holy crap, I think I am going to be seeing alot more medics around now.

[Rob]

Holy crap, I think I am going to be seeing alot more medics around now.
I noticed the excess of medics before I saw the update and it confused the hell out of me. I saw one team that had more medics than non-medics. They were literally all ubered except for one medic running around by himself.

Medics were underplayed before but I'm not sure if this is better.

[MistyTehMoose]

I play as a medic quite a bit, but when there are any more than three on a team of 12 it gets out of hand, and rather unnecessary.

[Lag]

I play as a medic quite a bit, but when there are any more than three on a team of 12 it gets out of hand, and rather unnecessary.

I disagree. With this giant influx of medics, it changes games a lot now. Aside from nobody dying, it allows you to roam a little free-er into enemy territory as you have at least two medics on your ass now. People are more prone to attack now as well.
Had one game where we rushed with a fully uber'd team and desecrated the opponents.

And in the future more people might have incentive to play medic now.

[MistyTehMoose]

But it's not fun or productive for the Medic. Maybe for others on the team.

[Matterialize]

SO MANY MEDICS. :wail:

I was one of them, though. Me and Lag unlocked the Bluttsauger and KritzKrieg over the past two days. A few of the achievements are pretty tough. I have no idea how to Ubercharge two people at the same time, and it's gonna be a long while before I accumulate a million heal points, although I saw seven or eight people get that Chief of Staff achievement in these past two days. All your pre-patch heal points still count towards it.

[Rob]

And in the future more people might have incentive to play medic now.

Not when the other classes have bonus items too.

[hardcoresk8r69]

I have to say, until they have new unlockables, they tainted the game that I once loved.

[opn4bzns]

Goldrush is pretty fun, but the amount of medics is ridiculous. Both teams on the server I played on had 5. I did play medic for a while (when it had briefly died down to 2 medics), but it was pointless, the number of medics shot up again, and they were all healing 2 or three non medics.

The explosion at the end of goldrush was awesome, though.

[Rob]

The explosion at the end of goldrush was awesome, though.

Holy shit there's an explosion at the end of goldrush? There goes my day.

[Matterialize]

I didn't know there was a permanent dispenser on the cart. That's pretty handy.

The two weapons I've unlocked for the medic are actually useful. Using these makes me look forward to the other classes' unlockables even more.

[Lag]

Critzkreig seems like the only weapon that seems interchangeable against it's predecessor. I mean, who isn't going to be using the needle gun that heals you or the insta-uber bone saw?

[Rob]

Argh!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPESj8MffRk)

[Knight of Cydonia]

Holy crap. That video is insane. Gold rush is very fun but at some points there are just too many medics. Also to double uber you juts need two people to stand next to each other and then uber them. Anyone want to work together to get the guns? No random medics or other classes will work with me.

[Spastic]

Well yesterday they took away all my fucking achievements, and I was royally pissed. But today I got an email from Valve,

Hi.
Yesterday, we reset your Medic achievements because we mistakenly believed you had hacked around the system to get them. Today we discovered a bug in our code that resulted in you being incorrectly flagged as cheating. As a result, I'm emailing you to apologize for our error, and to let you know that we've decided to award you the full set of Medic achievements.
Have fun with the Ubersaw,
Robin Walker.

So I guess I'll let it slide this one time, thanks Valve! Also the Ubersaw is fucking crazy, and I don't know if it's just me, but it seems to swing slower than the normal saw.

[Matterialize]

Robin, I am indeed having lots of fun with the Ubersaw. :yes:


EDIT: Definitely just played a whole round doing the thing in Rob's video. It's so much fucking fun, I love the medic now.

[Rob]

EDIT: Definitely just played a whole round doing the thing in Rob's video. It's so much fucking fun, I love the medic now.

Back in my day medics were used to heal their teammates. Valve what have you done :frown:

[cptlol]

Argh!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPESj8MffRk)


What song is this?

[Rob]

What song is this?
It's in the description.

[Pyro]

Some of the achievements really leave you a good feeling after you complete them. Like the burn 5 people with one über.

Because we ended up killing the whole team at once.

I haven't had the time to get the Kritzkrieg though.

[Rob]

So anyone else notice a surge of retards due to free weekend? I saw one guy uber a sniper.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Rob did you check the guys health? If a medic is going to die they will uber and then just deploy it on anyone. Also can anyone help me get some the achievements? I need a good heavy and a good solider for theres.

[Burrito]

I'm surprised no one's posted the TF2 Griefing videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoKaoJu0m4

For your viewing pleasures if you enjoy TF2 a ton. It's a great game.
Unless it's a farm...