GTA IV

[opn4bzns]

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IGN Preview (http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/847/847029p1.html)
Gamespot Preview (http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/grandtheftauto4/news.html?sid=6185020&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot)
Official Site (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/)

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•The game has now essentially been completed. Rockstar are just polishing the game and dealing with bugs, glitches and minor things.
•The Liberty City map was shown briefly during the demo. Kikizo describe it as containing a large island in the middle (Algonquin) with a similarly sized island to the left (Alderney) and two islands to the right - a small one (Bohan) up north with Broker and Dukes underneath.
•Rockstar also commented on the map found in Trailer 3 by our forum member Bluespot. "My God!" was their reaction. In other words, yes, it is indeed the map. Well done to Bluespot!
•Liberty City will contain a subway system, which Niko is able to use.
•The system covers - at the very least - Broker and Algonquin, but we aren't sure about the other areas yet.
•A speedboat journey around (approximately) half of Algonquin lasted 5 real-world minutes.
•In terms of camera views, all the traditional views are still there, and there will now also be a dashboard view.
•During the demo, they passed a restaurant called "Poop Deck," where they met with Francis McGreary. Other places mentioned are Oneida Avenue, 99 Long Road (Broker), a bar called Perestroika, South Parkway, Franklyn Street Westbank, and Albannay.
•Three missions were previewed during the demonstration. The first one was "Search and Delete," followed by "Deconstruction for Beginners" and then "Truck Hustle". A new character called Playboy X is introduced by Elizabeta (a mutual friend) during the second mission. Playboy X lives in a mansion, and eventually provides missions for Niko. A second character called Dwayne Ford is introduced, who just got out of prison. He taught Playboy X "everything he knows," apparently. In the third mission, two characters called Ray and Bell are introduced. They are from the mafia, and are trying to help Niko find someone, but want some favours done in return.
•The character Brucie is introduced to Niko by his cousin Roman. Brucie runs a garage just around the corner from Roman's taxi depot in Broker.
Characters often look different each time you see them instead of perpetually wearing the same clothes like in previous GTAs.
•The red and blue search radius on the radar is centred around the point where the crime was committed, and your last known whereabouts.
•Every police car in Liberty City has an on-board computer, on which you can access the police database files for anybody who's got a criminal record, or any other details that the police are aware of.
•You can smash your own car window to enable you to shoot from it; you can free-aim outside of your window using the right analogue.
Liberty City has one airport, based on JFK, called Francis International Airport (yes, it's the same name given to the airport in GTA3). It is located in on the East of the city.
•Progress is automatically saved after completing a mission. There are also safe houses dotted around the city, which you can save at any time.
•In this demo, the cell network is called Badger, whereas in the last demo it was called Whiz.
•Building and maintaining relationships with characters is important.
•During the preview, Jacob comes to meet you rather than vice versa. This is only possible once your friendship with Jacob has developed to a certain stage. Relationships can be damaged if you (for example) fail to turn up for meetings, or snub the character too many times. Maintaining good relationships with characters provides benefits.
•Pool, eating, darts, drinking and bowling are just some of the activities you can do with your friends to maintain relationships. The cellphone is used to access these activities via a menu. If you go for a drink and drink too much, Niko will get drunk. When this happens, the radar reads "You are drunk. Your vision is blurred." and the camera begins to shake, which makes driving difficult.
•There is a radio station called IF99.
•The game clock is no longer one minute = one hour. It is now two minutes = one hour. So days now last longer.
•Niko receives phone calls from people throughout the game. If someone really wants to get in touch with you about an important issue, they will keep on phoning.
•The new targetting system was described. There are eight purple segments in the target circle that make up someone's health, which you get when you're locked on - during free aiming you don't get the indicator.
•Expensive cars have better GPS systems than poorer ones. The one they enter during the preview session "talks us through the streets!"
•The cellphone can be used to listen to radio stations, so now you can listen to music at any time.
•The GTA 4 weather system does not feature seasons, and there is no snow.

Take 2 also announced in a press release on the 24th that the game will be in stores worldwide on April 29, 2008 for both consoles. Still no word on a PC port, sadly.

If anyone has any details they want added to this post, tell me.

[Dale]

The friend relationship and cellphone sound very interesting. I wounder how all of this will turn out

[opn4bzns]

The friend relationship and cellphone sound very interesting. I wounder how all of this will turn out

I do like the sound of the phone, especially being able to use radio on foot, but I really hope they've improved on the girlfriend system in San Andreas. It wasn't fun having a girl call you in the middle of a big fight and telling you to come visit her.

[Dale]

I do like the sound of the phone, especially being able to use radio on foot, but I really hope they've improved on the girlfriend system in San Andreas. It wasn't fun having a girl call you in the middle of a big fight and telling you to come visit her.

Oh yea, the girlfriend system in San Andrea's wasn't that great. But Is there something about a girlfriend system in GTA4? I must of missed it. And I love the fact you can get drunk haha.

[TheHighwaySong]

Just reading about alot of these things, I do trust it will be majorly better than San Andreas. I like the fact that days will last longer, and that pedestrians will actually have different costumes each time you see them. From what I've seen of the city I can tell it's just going to be awesome. The game takes place in the present time, correct?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Dam no WII or PS2 release. Oh well. Looks like a great game and if I ever get a PS3 or Xbox 360 i'm bound to get it. That pedestrian thing sounds great too.

[BUTT SLUT]

Oh yea, the girlfriend system in San Andrea's wasn't that great. But Is there something about a girlfriend system in GTA4? I must of missed it. And I love the fact you can get drunk haha.

There is, I think it was the IGN review where I read it, it's done online apparently, because the game has it's own little internet with a dating site.

[Assassin]

Awesome. This game will be fucking great.

[Pyro]

Wow, nice, will have to wait for the pc version though. I'm actually glad they won't be making one for the WII.

[opn4bzns]

The Wii could never support it, the hardware isn't anywhere near as powerful as either the X360 or the PS3.

[Pyro]

Yeah but they've cropped the graphics horribly down before. It wouldn't be that bad, but the gameplay tends to be too gimmicky and awful on rushed ports.

[opn4bzns]

Even with the graphics toned down I doubt it could run it. The physics are meant to be very impressive, and the city is huge, and especially demanding if it can't cache it (since the Wii has no hard drive).

[Mirrorman]

They better make it for the PC too :mad:.

[Sarge51]

I don't know why, but I am just not feeling it for the fourth one. I don't know if I am bored of GTA or if I am disappointed. Either way, I am getting it, it's a GTA tradition.

[Spastic]

I really can't wait for this to come out, but it really sucks they haven't said anything for the PC release date yet.

[BlackHood]

The trouble is, I really want the game, but I don't have a 360 or a PS3, and I can't afford to buy one, buy not releasing a PC version (or a cropped PS2) they will have sliced off allot of their market.

[Hickabod]

This is going to be the first chance for me to get a GTA on its release date rather than having to wait for a port (I was always Pro-Xbox). But I can't see me buying it the day it comes out, maybe a few months down the line. Despite what I've been hearing about the 360 and PS3 versions being identical, I think I'll probably get it for PS3 in the end 'cause I just prefer to have the whole series on one console.

[opn4bzns]

The trouble is, I really want the game, but I don't have a 360 or a PS3, and I can't afford to buy one, buy not releasing a PC version (or a cropped PS2) they will have sliced off allot of their market.

It's possible that they'll release a pc version. The PC versions of 3, Vice City and San Andreas were all released 6 or 7 months after the console versions.

[Biguardo]

It's possible that they'll release a pc version. The PC versions of 3, Vice City and San Andreas were all released 6 or 7 months after the console versions.
Yeah, but it's annoying that they didn't even say one word about the pc version yet. I'm not sure, but I think they announced the pc versions along the ps2 versions at the earlier games.
If this doesn't come out on PC I'm gonna have to hurt someone.

[Cristo]

I am so hyped for this. I really cannot wait, it's going to be so fucking excellent. Really, it's going to be great :D

I really, really like the sound of it all. I think this will be the best one yet, maybe even better than Vice City (which I thought was the best).

Crap release date though, that's literally 5 days before my final exams. Guess I'll just have to wait til the 15th to play it then.

[Clerlic]

I don't remember any announcements about the PC versions of previous games. I remember when SA came, we were like "damn that Rockstar!, we PC owners wanna play too", then we forgot about it and in like 2-3 months I read on a website that pc version is on it's way.

[Sarge51]

I am sure they'll make a PC Version. Probably just after they milk the console games for a few months. If they made SanAndreas for the PC they don't have a reason not to put this one on the PC.

I am glad they are making days in-game longer. Now I can take my time and explore.

[Biguardo]

I don't remember any announcements about the PC versions of previous games. I remember when SA came, we were like "damn that Rockstar!, we PC owners wanna play too", then we forgot about it and in like 2-3 months I read on a website that pc version is on it's way.

Very well then. It's just like, this game looks so funkadelic that only thinking they might not release it on PC literally scares the shit out of me.After all, I think the PC-Community has been very faithful, and we're also a big part of the marquet, so I guess it would be decent if they wouldn't completly ignore us.
I think I'll beat all the old games once again to pass the time.

[hardcoresk8r69]

I don't know whether to get it for console or go for the PC version. I always hated the control scheme on GTA for the PC, it just didn't feel right.

[BKS]

The little bit of information I read was that there are multiple ways to complete missions, such as an assassination one where you can apply for a job, buy a suit and go for the interview, then kill the guy and fight your way out.

[opn4bzns]

I don't know whether to get it for console or go for the PC version. I always hated the control scheme on GTA for the PC, it just didn't feel right.

On the other hand, the games always lagged horribly on my PS2, so it's lose lose if you don't like it on pc.

[Tweek]

Like I said in the other short-lived GTA IV thread, I just hope Rockstar hasn't lost their way and made GTA something it's not.

All these features and 'improvements' might suck total dick, and completely lose touch with the GTA feel.

[cosmosforest]

The little bit of information I read was that there are multiple ways to complete missions, such as an assassination one where you can apply for a job, buy a suit and go for the interview, then kill the guy and fight your way out.

Kick ass!! A bit of variety is needed in the homicide dept. alright!!
I know it's been said that there won't be a PS2 version, but I hope that demand rises to a level where they will look at the possibility of making it work!

[Biguardo]

The PS2 was at its limit with San Andreas. Look at the trailer, compare the graphics, now how the fuck is this going to work for you?

[Sarge51]

I seriously think San Andreas looked worse than Vice City. and that's saying a lot. Because Vice City was the glitchiest game I've ever played. (Seriously, driving fast to realize theres no road below you, and you ACTUALLY fall through the ground?)

How does the size of this new map compare to San Andreas? San Andreas seemed to be big at first, but the more I played the smaller it seemed to get. Then going back to Vice City, man, I don't know how I got lost sometimes on it, it's SMALL.

[Biguardo]

How does the size of this new map compare to San Andreas? San Andreas seemed to be big at first, but the more I played the smaller it seemed to get. Then going back to Vice City, man, I don't know how I got lost sometimes on it, it's SMALL.
I heard that this time, Liberty City alone is going to be as big as all of San Andreas, which is pretty neat.
I would get lost in all the games, be it old Liberty City or Vice City, let alone San Andreas, without the map I'd be pretty much screwed. It's still cool that they make the maps bigger and bigger, I hope they are gonna release IV without the boarders at the beginning. But they won't.

[Sarge51]

I heard that this time, Liberty City alone is going to be as big as all of San Andreas, which is pretty neat.
I would get lost in all the games, be it old Liberty City or Vice City, let alone San Andreas, without the map I'd be pretty much screwed. It's still cool that they make the maps bigger and bigger, I hope they are gonna release IV without the boarders at the beginning. But they won't.

Well. In SanAndreas, you could swim to the other side, or fly over. But the cops would instantly get on you. Helicopter and all. But I kind of liked that. Easy way to get the cops mad at you. While you flee on your Lawnmower.

But I do hope they let us go freely this time. Because I love to explore. What I wonder is will there be a custom marker on the map. and will you be able to spend your dough on some new threads? (As crappy as the system was, I was happy to change my clothes ASAP in SA.)

[opn4bzns]

Rockstar said (I think) that the whole city would be available from the start.

[Kevosk]

All you whiners need to shut up about your PS2s, seriously. The console would explode if it even tried to process the majesty that is GTA IV.

And a word for the not-so-wise:


LIBERTY CITY WILL BE NOWHERE NEAR SAN ANDREAS IN SIZE, ONLY IN SCOPE.


I don't see where people get off saying "well it's not big therefore it sucks".

PS: I can't wait to combine this drinking feature with like, everything else. Drunk dialing, drunken darts, bar fights and driving home ahoy!

[Sarge51]

I want to see children in the game. If at least in a cutscene or something. and animals I can run over.

[opn4bzns]

I want to see children in the game. If at least in a cutscene or something. and animals I can run over.

You're out of luck. Rockstar have said that the GTA games won't have children or animals.

[Tweek]

I can understand that.
Having children or animals would just get more people on their backs and I wouldn't be surprised if wasn't even released.

[BilkEmDanno]

I've already pre-ordered the game, paid in full, and I'm getting the special edition version. I have to admit it, I'm really excited for this game. I mean, I'm REALLY excited. On a scale of One to Penis Enlargement, I'm Pinocchio after reciting a Bush-speech. I know, I'm funny.

Bad jokes aside, the game is going to be awesome. Rockstar, however, does have a habit of over hyping their games a bit. They claimed they would have some really neat features in San Andreas which they never released and they put some misleading screenshots up. In any case, the game was still great. This time, however, I'm going to set my bar right under what Rockstar is saying.

I owe my gaming career to Grand Theft Auto, so cheers to April 29th! (Even though it was supposed to be October 17th).

[Clerlic]

to get from one side of the new and improved Liberty City to the other will take you at least an hour.


I don't think there is a problem with the city being too "small". It took me no more than 10-12 mins of driving in normal car to get from across the SA.

[BilkEmDanno]

I want to see children in the game. If at least in a cutscene or something. and animals I can run over.
Keep dreaming, bud. They can't do that. If they include children in the game, that's moving into serious legal territory. Rockstar already catches enough flak for being able to kill thousands of people in this game, which has "influenced" people all across the world. Now, if they threw in children, they would be "influencing" more and would get banned from shelves and some SERIOUS lawsuits. Animals aren't as bad, but I could see why they choose now to include them. We just don't need them there.

[Derelict]

I was hoping to get it for my birthday but I guess I'll have to wait a few weeks after to. It's sad, but it'll be worth it for them ironing out kinks.

[BilkEmDanno]

I was hoping to get it for my birthday but I guess I'll have to wait a few weeks after to. It's sad, but it'll be worth it for them ironing out kinks.
Same here, my birthday is on October 18, so I would have been able to pawn off the $80 on someone else a day before my birthday. Oh well, it's not the end of the world. More time for Rockstar to make a better game.

[Sarge51]

So, This game is set to come out in April? I got 45 Bucks. (very late 100 dollar christmas present) I guess I could keep it and get the game. Score!

[BilkEmDanno]

So, This game is set to come out in April? I got 45 Bucks. (very late 100 dollar christmas present) I guess I could keep it and get the game. Score!

April 29th, yup. It will cost $60 on release (plus 5 dollars tax) or $90 for the special edition.

[Sarge51]

Yeah, But I am sure I could sell Mass Effect for the rest of the money. The 45 Bucks will just speed things up.

I'm going to keep watching GTA4 though. I hope I can get some more information on it to see just how good it is.

[BilkEmDanno]

Play Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas. All work on the 360. You will then see by statistic, Rockstar never makes a bad GTA Game.

[opn4bzns]

Play Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas. All work on the 360. You will then see by statistic, Rockstar never makes a bad GTA Game.

Maybe you shouldn't play them in that order, though. San Andreas was a brilliant game, but towards the end the story just got ridiculous.

[Sarge51]

I know when I first saw the trailer for GTA4, It didn't seem very GTA to me. But that's not necessarily a bad thing at all.

[BilkEmDanno]

Maybe you shouldn't play them in that order, though. San Andreas was a brilliant game, but towards the end the story just got ridiculous.

Yeah, it started getting stupid. It went from BOY IN DA HOOD CHILLAN WIT HIAS HAWEMIES to boy from the hood in the wilderness working for crooked police who burns a marijuana crop field and goes to a city where he starts to work for the Yakuza after impressing the boss in a race and takes out a whole crime syndicate led by a crooked FBI officer (did I mention all the actual police in the game are crooked? Yeah.) and also fights a fledging war with the Triads, then goes to Vegas to wipe out the whole mafia and do yet more FBI jobs including stealing a harrier jet and blowing up a whole spy flotilla, then going back to his hood and wiping out everyone and everything and pwning the nubs while having a big chase with firetrucks in the end.

Sorry, I spoiled it. The end boss battle is with a fire truck.

Yeah, but seriously, GTA 3 was fair with the story, it wasn't that bad. Vice City actually had a good story, but San Andreas was like a parabola, it started good, sloped down, sloped up, then ended down. More like a hyperbola then.

[Kevosk]

Yeah, it started getting stupid. It went from BOY IN DA HOOD CHILLAN WIT HIAS HAWEMIES to boy from the hood in the wilderness working for crooked police who burns a marijuana crop field and goes to a city where he starts to work for the Yakuza after impressing the boss in a race and takes out a whole crime syndicate led by a crooked FBI officer (did I mention all the actual police in the game are crooked? Yeah.) and also fights a fledging war with the Triads, then goes to Vegas to wipe out the whole mafia and do yet more FBI jobs including stealing a harrier jet and blowing up a whole spy flotilla, then going back to his hood and wiping out everyone and everything and pwning the nubs while having a big chase with firetrucks in the end.

Sorry, I spoiled it. The end boss battle is with a fire truck.

Yeah, but seriously, GTA 3 was fair with the story, it wasn't that bad. Vice City actually had a good story, but San Andreas was like a parabola, it started good, sloped down, sloped up, then ended down. More like a hyperbola then.



...never talk about Grand Theft Auto again.

Also, the GTA IV site has new teaser trailers out; it shows a lot of the new features and a bunch of pedestrian AI and I'm only halfway through them.

+The peds-getting-smoked-by-cars animations look brilliant.

[BilkEmDanno]

...never talk about Grand Theft Auto again..
Overruled.

Grand Theft Auto is what got me into gaming, back in the GTA3 days. Those were the good times... dukin' it out on MTA... Who here has played MTAVC?

[Tempest]

back in the GTA3 days.

.. Are you like 15 years old? GTA3 was not "back in the day" by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to video games. :ahe:

[BilkEmDanno]

.. Are you like 15 years old? GTA3 was not "back in the day" by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to video games. :ahe:
Judging by your picture, I'd think you're the one who is fifteen.

Regardless, it's called sarcasm. Get over it. I've been playing GTA since back in the GTA: London days. Probably was my favorite game back then besides my ol' Genesis or my NES.

[I_Smell]

After seeing the map, fans are allready speculating where Bigfoot is.
I don't know why, but I am just not feeling it for the fourth one. I don't know if I am bored of GTA or if I am disappointed. Either way, I am getting it, it's a GTA tradition.

Yeah I'm feelin like that aswell.
I bet they're releasin it for the PC soon after; The amount of user-generated shit that comes out of GTA games on the PC is an opportunity they won't fuck about with.

[Sarge51]

Of course they are releasing a PC Version. They have to. I mean, they did Vice City and Sanandreas. and if they made more money than they lost on making it, then I am pretty sure they'll do it again.

I just hope they keep it feeling like it's a good old GTA game. But I do hope they come up with something new, which it seems they have done. I mean, sure it's the same city. But it looks very different judging by the Trailers. Also, the physics so far look great. Especially the way the characters look and the way they talk, compare the trailers to SanAndreas and you'll see what I mean. GTA4 will have finally caught up with the big guns. But we'll see if they deliver.

[El Mojado]

Man I used to play GTA 2 when I was in the 3rd grade. But seriously, this game is going to be a generic* GTA. Really I hope they can deliver more stuff. The whole getting drunk thing was probably inspired from GTA Vice City, where you drive drunk and in GTA San Andreas where you get high off the weed. The guns seem like the same as in the same from GTA: San Andreas, Aks, M16s/M4s, Uzis, Pistols, and of course Rocket Launchers. The only thing I'm not going to like is that your going to have to make and maintain relationships.


*As in kickass game.

[opn4bzns]

I love the new site's HIP YOUTH MARKETING ads for Sprunk. They're spot on.

[fionnrokz]

I hope multiplayer has improved.... Maybe throw in some Co-op side missions...

[LaPhBu]

Just pre-ordered special edition. This game looks kick-ass.

[Sarge51]

What do you get with the Special Edition? Hopefully something good.

I am surprised the game is only around 2 Months from being released.

[opn4bzns]

What do you get with the Special Edition? Hopefully something good.

I am surprised the game is only around 2 Months from being released.

Grand Theft Auto IV: Special Edition was announced[52] on 21 May 2007 for both PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions. It will contain the following:

* A customised metal safe deposit box.
* A Rockstar keychain for the safe deposit box keys.
* A limited edition Rockstar duffel bag.
* Production artwork in the Grand Theft Auto IV Art Book.
* Selected soundtrack CD from Grand Theft Auto IV, featuring new material from top artists, only available on this release.
* A specially packaged version of the game for either PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

Pre-orders for the special edition were available from 21 May 2007.
It looks like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/GTAIVSEPS3.jpg

[dinodoom7]

YES!!!!! DRINKING AND DRIVING!!!!!

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[Cristo]

Wow that special edition looks super.

How much is it? Sureley all of that isn't just $90?

[opn4bzns]

Wow that special edition looks super.

How much is it? Sureley all of that isn't just $90?

Apparently so, according to Amazon. It's AU$150 in Australia, but we always get ripped off on games anyway, so it's not that bad.

[Sarge51]

150.00 AUD = 136.24 USD

Either the Currency Converter is messed up, or you guys are REALLY getting jipped on games. That bundle doesn't come with anything THAT interesting. I'd price it at about $90 or 100 at the max.

[opn4bzns]

150.00 AUD = 136.24 USD

Either the Currency Converter is messed up, or you guys are REALLY getting jipped on games. That bundle doesn't come with anything THAT interesting. I'd price it at about $90 or 100 at the max.

This not a new thing. Games are $100 when they come out here. In the US they're what, $50? Even with the currency difference they should only be about $70. Activision changed the Australian price of CoD4 on steam from $49 to $88 overnight with no explanation. Even Bioshock, an Australian game, was cheaper in the US.

[Sarge51]

That's quite utter bullshit. and I think the games in the US since the new consoles rose about 10 dollars. So it's like $60 now. Insane though, I'd hate to live there due to that one thing.

[StoryTeller5]

I know that becuase of the improved graphics that it's more like real life than before. I know that is was more innocent becuase of its cartoonish look ,but I'm wondering how much they can get away with when using next gen graphics. But it did bother me that you never saw 1 kid in the entire game. I know for a fact that there will be a lot of controvery over the game like Vice City and San Andranas (i know i spelt that wrong but im too lazey to look it up)

I can't belive that after all those push backs that it's finally here.

[Sarge51]

I am surprised myself they've come this far through all they've been through. I am curious to see how the new systems will affect how the game will change from it's older titles as well. and from what the trailers show, it looks much better with way better physics.

[StoryTeller5]

They did improve physics. In a preview they metioned that they focused a lot on it.they gave an exsample of walking across the street.Where when you were half on the street half on the road, your foot wouldnt hover anymore instead your foot would be on the street and it would look as if you were walking onto a curve. I hope it can live up to its hype becuase so many titles promise then never deliver.

[Sarge51]

Wow. That sounds awesome. I can't wait to see what kind of other stuff they put into it.

[opn4bzns]

Wow. That sounds awesome. I can't wait to see what kind of other stuff they put into it.

The ragdolls and stuff are all dynamic. I'm pretty sure Niko will dodge through crowds, Assassin's Creed style, instead of just walking in a straight line. The ability to play radio on your mobile should make walking a bit more appealing too.

[Tweek]

I just really really hope it stays GTA, and doesn't forget itself in new features.

[opn4bzns]

I just really really hope it stays GTA, and doesn't forget itself in new features.

I was a little concerned about that too, but it certainly seems to have retained the delightfully immature humour of the previous games, judging by its site.

[opn4bzns]

Apologies for the double post, but I thought this was probably worth bumping the thread for.
It's a new preview. It's translated from french, so excuse the shitty grammar in some bits of it.
According to the journalists, the first hands-on minutes were enough to solidify their feelings of how the game is going to kick ass.

Liberty City has more streets than any other game in the genre.
You cannot enter into every building. However, you can interact with most of them. Rooftops, stairways, fire escapes, partial interiors, etc.


Niko will not be able to manage property, gangs or trade. To what extent, tho? We do not know.
Bowling, dart games, drinking games, strip clubs and night clubs will be available.
The core of GTA IV is all about the human relationship.


Sometimes, your contacts may call you during a hard mission to ask you a service. In this instance, you can choose between the mission or whatever your contact is asking. If you ditch your mission to do things with your phone contact, you may see consequences. Whether or not you will be able to replay the mission that you went away from remains to be seen.
The new impression of seeing a next generation living, breathing city is absolutely stunning.

The pedestrian population density changes between the place/borough you are in.
If you walk around the street with a gun in your hand, pedestrians who have a phone can call the police.
In one instance when Niko tried to carjack someone, the scared innocent driver sped away so fast that he hit two cars.

During the first mission that the journalists played, they tried to carjack someone without a gun. The driver beat up Niko. Niko got beat up so bad that he ended up at the hospital.
Pedestrians react in a very realistic way. The journalists said that it is as if each person in the game leads his/her own life.

It took 15 minutes to go through 2/3 of Manhattan with a boat. It took 10 minutes by car to go through Brooklyn and Central Park.
The cars can be destroyed very realistically. Every part of the car can bend and fold.
GTA IV has a wider variety of mission types. The missions are more difficult than in previous games.

The game is done. Most clipping bugs are gone. The game is super smooth in terms of frame rate. (Note: The game is not 100% done. It is not "gold" yet.)
If you press the jump button, Niko can climb everywhere. In other words, wall climbing from San Andreas has returned. You can strafe on walls, too.
There is swimming club. [Er, what?]
If you have five stars, it's very difficult to escape from the cops. They are everywhere and they don't joke with you. They are cleverer than in previous incarnations of the series.
While in a boat, the sound effects are awesome. You can hear the sound of the waves that beat the front of the boat.

With powerful weapons, you can shoot through the walls.
The weather that was seen during the four hours of gameplay included fog, rain, sun and clouds. A variety of colors can be seen depending on the time of day.
When you die, you pay $100 but you get to keep your weapons.
When you go to jail after getting busted, you pay more than $100 and you lose your weapons.

While you are drunk, it's very difficult to control Niko. The drunk sensation is perfectly done.
When stealing a car from a pedestrian, Niko didn't get into the car before the pedestrian sped up. Niko held onto the car as the pedestrian glided along the road. (Note: It may have been the pedestrian holding on to a car Niko was in. The translation is sketchy.)
Choppers with search lights are in the game.


Women will striptease in strip clubs when you pay.
Depending on the borough you are in, pedestrians may speak different languages. Italian, Chinese and those in the Bronx are different when it comes to language.
Health kits are available only in buildings.
Grenade and molotov cocktail sound effects are stunning.

[Sarge51]

The more I hear about this game, the more stunning it seems to me. I love the fact that the pedestrians can now fight back when you try stealing their cars. Breakable terrain. and smarter cops. (Though that may come with better AI all around.) I thought I read somewhere that the cops are easier to rid of if you have one or two stars. But the higher it is, the more difficult it is. Rather than just adding different cars and weapons shooting at you, the AI improves and the more determined they are to take you out.

I am more psyched about the game now. It seems way more realistic.

Also, Wall Climbing??

[opn4bzns]

The more I hear about this game, the more stunning it seems to me. I love the fact that the pedestrians can now fight back when you try stealing their cars.

Also, Wall Climbing??

Well, to be fair, they've been fighting back when you jacked them since GTA3.
I am quite excited about the climbing though, the little wall jumps and stuff you could do in San Andreas were really fun.

[Sarge51]

You mean grabbing onto the top of walls and fences? I wouldn't call that wall climbing. I was picturing something out of spiderman.

[Cristo]

Yeah same here, or Assassin's Creed. But I assume it means just jumping over a fence or low obstacle if you run at it.

[Tweek]

This looks likes a smashing game all 'round, but once again I have to express my concerns that it stays true to the tone of Grand Theft Auto.

Either way I will probably love it.

[NobeS]

Arent the GTA games censored more in america than other places?

[Tweek]

No, they are fairly heavily censored here in Australia, as far as I know.

[NobeS]

no, not at first, remember how san andreas was banned for a while tweek? it got censored after that to be released again. the original wasnt censored as far as i know

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[Tweek]

I suppose, but that's still censorship.

GTAIII was definitely censored (picking up prostitutes was disabled and they took out something else) and I think Vice City was too, but as far as I know the US releases are generally the same as elsewhere.

[NobeS]

Yeah i know GTAIII was censored... but things like dropping the c-bomb in the other games, you'd have thought things like that would have gone

[Sarge51]

Picking up prostitutes was a hard task just to get that extra 25 Health Points.

They need to stop censorship. or start censoring R rated movies, because that's what their doing to games. "M" is the equivalent of "R", you douchebag moms.

[NobeS]

Picking up prostitutes was a hard task just to get that extra 25 Health Points.

hehe i liked to kill them and get my money back...


and censoring things really pisses me off

[Sheikah16]

Hopefully there won't be realistic damage. If there is then no more stunting and that would suck.

[Cristo]

I suppose, but that's still censorship.

GTAIII was definitely censored (picking up prostitutes was disabled and they took out something else) and I think Vice City was too, but as far as I know the US releases are generally the same as elsewhere.

Wow I didn't know Australia was that uptight and prudish.

What else did they censor?

[BlackHood]

One of the most dangerous things they could do is work so hard at making it into The Sims, that they forget that what makes GTA is the huge amount of weaponry and gratuitous murder.

Also in the last 5 years the censorships have changed all over the world; with so many new horror-gore films like Saw 3 becoming mainstream the government has had to take a step back when it comes to forcing people to chop up their game/film/program.

[Sarge51]

I've always wanted cars to be more realistic.

[opn4bzns]

No, they are fairly heavily censored here in Australia, as far as I know.

Yes, they were (except Vice City), but I'm happy to say that the OFLC website says IV has passed the classification test uncensored. :dance:
Wow I didn't know Australia was that uptight and prudish.

What else did they censor?
Nothing except prossies were censored. Australia is strange, because nudity and swearing on primetime tv are fine (unlike America), yet games get modified and the occasional movie gets banned. According to an article in the paper, though, we are probably going to get an R (a bit like AO in the esrb system) rating, so games won't be banned any more.

[P0K3M0N_MA5T3R]

Few reasons why this will be better than the other GTA's,
-Proper aiming system, every hated the aiming in GTA and anyone who says they didn't is a liar.
-Smaller city, with more detail. Anyone who's played Bully knows how much better the city was than a lot of GTA's because it was small but had loads of fun places to go, as opposed to a massive map that feels really dead like SA.
-Little details, I read in a magazine a list of the little details in the game which just sound awesome, such as: some pedestrians will wee up walls, you can dial 911 to get a police car to come to you-then nick it, you can see reflections in the wing mirrors, drivers will duck and drive off causing mayhem if you start shooting in the street, bodies float off in the water and you can shoot the chains holding up logs on a flatbed lorry.
I think a lot of people will not like the more realistic approach but I think they are the more casual people who only play GTA and a few other major franchises (I have friends who only play GTA and FIFA.)

[Tweek]

Few reasons why this will be better than the other GTA's,
-Proper aiming system, every hated the aiming in GTA and anyone who says they didn't is a liar.
-Smaller city, with more detail. Anyone who's played Bully knows how much better the city was than a lot of GTA's because it was small but had loads of fun places to go, as opposed to a massive map that feels really dead like SA.
-Little details, I read in a magazine a list of the little details in the game which just sound awesome, such as: some pedestrians will wee up walls, you can dial 911 to get a police car to come to you-then nick it, you can see reflections in the wing mirrors, drivers will duck and drive off causing mayhem if you start shooting in the street, bodies float off in the water and you can shoot the chains holding up logs on a flatbed lorry.
I think a lot of people will not like the more realistic approach but I think they are the more casual people who only play GTA and a few other major franchises (I have friends who only play GTA and FIFA.)
I think the generally unrealistic approach added to the feel and atmosphere of the GTA games. I would love this game (as it appears - I need to play it first :lol:) as a new title but as a continuation of the GTA series it has a duty to live up to its predecessors.

[Cristo]

I don't think it's going to be completely realistic, I mean it is still a game.

There's still going to be crazy missions, satirical radio shows and political incorrectness and a bunch of other things.

[Sarge51]

There's a new trailer on the Xbox Live Marketplace. Where, it doesn't show much more than the previous trailers have shown, it gives you a pretty decent view of the new graphics. Helicopters, Explosions, and Mouth Movement are greatly improved. I'd recommend taking a look at it. Not sure if it's on the GTA4 website, but you'd think it would be.

[Kevosk]

No more? Dude, there was LOADS found out. Several glimpses of a story and likely boss who sounds italian, butt-trucks full of physics and stuff (flying through the air, getting blown sideways, and getting shot down stairs). It also showed loads of weather, car looks/mechanics/damage, the Sanchez being back, and to top it off...

it was the coolest fucking trailer I have ever seen!

...Except for the gay music :(

[opn4bzns]

A bunch of multiplayer info came out recently.
Both the 360 and PS3 have support for 16 player free for alls, as well as about 10 other modes.

[peteaboda1]

Do you have a source for the other modes? Also, I saw the trailer today and it looks awesome although I agree penny, the music was questionable, it's only about a month away though! :boogie:

[opn4bzns]

Do you have a source for the other modes?

http://www.gta4.net/multiplayer/
There were some leaked shots of it too, but they've been taken down from everywhere I can find.

[Assassin]

Fucking awesome.

[Sarge51]

This is definitely going to be very different from the older GTA games. It doesn't even look like a GTA game really! That should change once I get a Tank and rampage through town.

[peteaboda1]

http://www.gta4.net/multiplayer/
There were some leaked shots of it too, but they've been taken down from everywhere I can find.

Holy crap I just got really excited for this game again. Now it seems like I'll be spending a lot more hours online; we should definitely get a group together for some of those online modes like "Team Mafiya Work" and "Cops N' Crooks".

[Sarge51]

Eh, I think Free Mode will be the best of all the modes. That is, if the whole city is open to all 16 Players. It'd be nice to team up with your friend just ride around and drive by other players, end up on tall building, take turns jumping off, or all at once. etc.

[opn4bzns]

Potentially very bad news for Australians (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/04/gta-iv-edited-for-australia/).
Why the fuck do they have to do this again? We're on the verge of an R18+ rating for games and they're still editing the game here? Maybe the content we're missing won't be that important, but it's the principal, and it's stupid.

[Sarge51]

That is so much bullshit. Just leave the game like it is. What's next, banning Porn and Rambo movies? If they're going to edit it, why not just set aside an Uncut Version for people who LOVE violence and murder. Ugh. At least it's not completely banned, I guess. Australia needs to get with the times.

[opn4bzns]

That is so much bullshit. Just leave the game like it is. What's next, banning Porn and Rambo movies? If they're going to edit it, why not just set aside an Uncut Version for people who LOVE violence and murder. Ugh. At least it's not completely banned, I guess. Australia needs to get with the times.

I just hope it doesn't affect the gameplay like the cuts in III/VC did. In the regular version, you could get up to 125 health by having sex with prostitutes. In the Australian version, you couldn't, which made things quite a bit harder.

[Tweek]

I just hope it doesn't affect the gameplay like the cuts in III/VC did. In the regular version, you could get up to 125 health by having sex with prostitutes. In the Australian version, you couldn't, which made things quite a bit harder.
I have the uncut version, my penis feels larger.

[peteaboda1]

I have the uncut version, my penis feels larger.

With http://forums.explosm.net/image2.php?u=17751&dateline=1206706761as your avatar, I don't blame you for trying to compensate. That really does suck for Australians though, maybe you should demand $10 off of the game for what they cut out of it?

[opn4bzns]

With http://forums.explosm.net/image2.php?u=17751&dateline=1206706761as your avatar, I don't blame you for trying to compensate. That really does suck for Australians though, maybe you should demand $10 off of the game for what they cut out of it?

Fat chance, we have to pay AU$120 (US$110.58) anyway. We get utterly ripped off by everyone except Valve.

[Kwanza]

New previews released today on 4 of the gamemodes.


Team Deathmatch
Classic deathmatch done Grand Theft Auto style. Go anywhere, do anything: the whole city is yours. 16 players max, teams can be made in any configuration. Weapons on the ground can be configured by the host. Capitalism rules here: the team with the most money in the end is the winner.

GTA Race
Rockstar North's twist on the concept of a race. Host selects vehicle type (each racer selects his or her specific vehicle after that), race, number of laps, and time limit. Despite ordered checkpoints, players can go anywhere in the city at any time. Do you want a straightforward race from start to finish or do you want to create a roadblock and shoot rockets at your fellow racers? The choice is yours - each player does it slightly differently. 16 players max.

Cops N Crooks
2 teams, 2 vastly different goals. The cops can see the crooks on their radar but the the crooks can only see the escape point making this the ultimate cat and mouse situation. For the first time, players can get a chance to be on the other side of the law in a Grand Theft Auto with Cops n' Crooks. A team of "crooks" need to get their boss to safety, as the team of "cops" pulls out every trick in the book to try and stop this from happening. Again, 16 players max.

Hangman's NOOSE
Co-op in Grand theft Auto IV is a 4 person affair. Each mode is a short, story-based mission you must complete with your friends. In Hangman's NOOSE you must get crime boss to an extraction point alive. First, several of Liberty City's finest need to be dealt with and then transport must be secured. Will you take Kenny to safety in an armored car? How about a motorcycle or attack chopper? The choice is all yours.

Along with 12 screenshots,

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I finally pre-ordered my copy today, and I don't think I've ever been this excited for a game. I mean, a free-roam mode where you and 16 players go online and do whatever the hell you want? Perfect.

[Far]

On the 20th I'm moving to BC and because my brother and I bought our xbox together I have to leave it here meaning I'll miss out on gta. I am beyond super pissed.

[Kwanza]

Well, that's really shitty. As a bonus, I'll be in BC on the 22nd through to the 27th, maybe we can hookup and talk GTA and how much GTA I'm going to play and not you? <3

I'm convinced enough by this game that, if my 360 red ringed before released, I'd just shell out the money for a new one just to play it. Thinking back, I bought a PS2 just to play San Andreas, and I'd do it again. I love GTA.

[Clerlic]

I wonder if the PC version will have higher player limit in multiplayer.

[Sarge51]

What's the deal with the commercial on TV. There's a different main character? That's not the same guy in all the previous trailers and such.

[opn4bzns]

On the 20th I'm moving to BC and because my brother and I bought our xbox together I have to leave it here meaning I'll miss out on gta. I am beyond super pissed.

I can sympathise. Even if I can get a 360 somehow, school term starts the day it's released. And two weeks after that exams start. Awesome. Meaning that after having three weeks of completely free time, I'll be hard pressed to fit in playing it.

Multiplayer looks absolutely amazing though, how many games can you have a hobo knife fight on a girder in?

[peteaboda1]

I have a slightly similar situation. Earlier this year I told myself I would try to hold off on GTA until after finals, I get out around may 19th or so, but after all of these previews I am definitely going the day it is released.

[satansick]

I hope the pistol doesn't sound as gay as in San andreas

[Gudizere]

Pre-ordered the Special Edition, booked the day off, damn im ready.

[Cristo]

I have a slightly similar situation. Earlier this year I told myself I would try to hold off on GTA until after finals, I get out around may 19th or so, but after all of these previews I am definitely going the day it is released.

You don't happen to do IB do you?

If so I finish on the 15th May, but I'm getting GTA: IV on release day. I'm just going to wait with playing it :P

[peteaboda1]

You don't happen to do IB do you?

If so I finish on the 15th May, but I'm getting GTA: IV on release day. I'm just going to wait with playing it :P

No, I'm just at a community college...sadly though I have to sign up for a couple of courses in summer to make up some UC credits.

[Sarge51]

Got 30 credits left at gamestop. I am sure I can get 20-30 bucks to buy it. Last time I preordered something online I couldn't get it but 3 days after it was released. and there were excess copies in the stores...

[opn4bzns]

Wheee, comes out in 9 days. The only part censored in the Au version is "a weapon being forcibly inserted into another character's private parts" according to the oflc.

Also, Ricky Gervais is confirmed as an in game comedian whose shows you can go watch.

[Sarge51]

This game is really making me anxious to play. I just want to do what I always do in GTA games and ignore the missions and just explore as much as I can. Which was great in San Andreas because you weren't COMPLETELY blocked off from the other islands, but you'd still get the cops on you. I think GTA4 is going to have an even higher replay value than it's previous games. One concern I have is how long will the game be. I remember in the older GTA games if you didn't play around too much and just did the missions the game wouldn't last too long at all. Namely Vice City.

[peteaboda1]

This game is really making me anxious to play. I just want to do what I always do in GTA games and ignore the missions and just explore as much as I can. Which was great in San Andreas because you weren't COMPLETELY blocked off from the other islands, but you'd still get the cops on you. I think GTA4 is going to have an even higher replay value than it's previous games. One concern I have is how long will the game be. I remember in the older GTA games if you didn't play around too much and just did the missions the game wouldn't last too long at all. Namely Vice City.

I wouldn't be too worried about campaign length because of all the extras added. I mean, even if Vice City was short it was still a glorious game.
I really don't want to think too much about it because there is still another week to go. On the plus, I've got a statistics test the day it comes out, meaning I'll be out of class hopefully an hour earlier.

[Sarge51]

Vice City was an excellent game, and even though I beat it about 4 times and have played the first half of the game over 150 times, I don't think it'll ever grow old. Glitches sure slowed me down though. Falling through the ground. Flying cars about 20 feet in the air. Random freezes. I loved that game to death though. Tommy Vercetti is my freaking hero of ALL video games.

One thing about GTA is the immense about of cheats for pretty much ALL of the GTA games. I wonder if this will have any cheatcodes and if it'll effect the 360 achievements. I wonder if it'll be like Saint's Row where if you activate cheats it'll disable achievements... I just hope there's some cheats at all!

I am really really excited about online play. It'll be like the San Andreas 2-Player missions, except you won't be tied to the other player and you can have the whole screen to yourself! Not to mention much more than 2 players and loads of game types.

[Chaplin]

I don't think there is a problem with the city being too "small". It took me no more than 10-12 mins of driving in normal car to get from across the SA.

Yeah. Supposedly even though the sandbox is smaller in this one, supposedly it takes an HOUR to get across town. But that may be a little bit too much.
i think at most it will take half an hour.

[Kwanza]

An hour through traffic, about 10 minutes around the entire thing by boat.
The city is only a bit smaller in land mass compared to San Andreas, but over 20x bigger in scope. Everything is extremely detailed, extremely focused on.

It doesn't feel like a city spread out over a giant map like San Andreas did. They've put extra intricate work into making it look, feel and play like a real living city.

[opn4bzns]

Yeah, it's supposed to be a lot more vertical than SA was, since you can enter some skyscrapers and there won't be large areas without buildings.

[Cristo]

The graphics look a bit naf though I'm afraid to say.

They've started advertising it on British telly now, and I have to say that the graphics only look slightly better than PS2. Which is a shame but I'm still anxious.

[opn4bzns]

It's a strange game, graphically. It looks pretty good in motion, but some of R*'s screenshots look pretty bad. There's one in which the buildings are all horrible and blurry and a tree looks like a PS1 game, but the site I saw it on is down at the moment so I can't find it.

[Sarge51]

An hour through traffic, about 10 minutes around the entire thing by boat.
The city is only a bit smaller in land mass compared to San Andreas, but over 20x bigger in scope. Everything is extremely detailed, extremely focused on.

It doesn't feel like a city spread out over a giant map like San Andreas did. They've put extra intricate work into making it look, feel and play like a real living city.

Yeah, but wasn't half of San Andreas just country and woods? Other than an actual busy city?

[Sirnogbert]

I've got next week booked off work, so assuming it gets delivered on time I'll be having plenty of fun. GTA is still the only series that get's me really excited for a new release, and Rockstar hasn't disappointed me before. I like the fact that they've made the game more next gen rather than just tacking on new graphics to the older game engines.

[Gudizere]

Anyone seen any leaked gameplay footage? I got tricked into watching some, and now i feel so dirty...

But it's just got me more excited!

[opn4bzns]

Australian retailers broke the street date and genuine gameplay has been leaked.
Link 1 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206801.html)
Link 2 (mission choices) (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206826.html)
Link 3 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206847.html)
Link 4 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206894.html)
All were working at the time of posting, but Take 2 has been cracking down, so watch them while you can. The first video is a bit lackluster, but by the last my boner for this game was fully restored.

Edit: oh, and it's on torrent sites, too, but we don't talk about that here, and besides, you'd need a modded 360 anyway, and you'd be ripping Rockstar off.

[RessXalcor]

Australian retailers broke the street date and genuine gameplay has been leaked.
Link 1 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206801.html)
Link 2 (mission choices) (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206826.html)
Link 3 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206847.html)
Link 4 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206894.html)


Yeah they've been taken down an hour after posting them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oqidcw2E3k
while you still can

There is also a live stream of the game

http://www.justin.tv/swiftor


EDIT***The Stream is no longer available and take2 has taken the video down

[Kwanza]

The graphics look a bit naf though I'm afraid to say.

They've started advertising it on British telly now, and I have to say that the graphics only look slightly better than PS2. Which is a shame but I'm still anxious.

You're pretty damn stupid if you actually believe that. The graphics are fantastic, it's time to look past Crysis and see something that's adapted it's own style and pulled it off amazingly. The city is gigantic, the draw distance is absurdly huge while still pulling off awesome lighting effects, high-quality textures and models. PS2 could never do this, let alone a lot of today's engines. It's quite astonishing.

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/341.jpg

[hardcoresk8r69]

There has been 2 leaks of the game. Both the NTSC version and the PAL version are up as a torrent somewhere and I hear there are over 20,000 seeders. Pretty crazy but I respect Rockstar too much to download their game.

[RessXalcor]

There has been 2 leaks of the game. Both the NTSC version and the PAL version are up as a torrent somewhere and I hear there are over 20,000 seeders. Pretty crazy but I respect Rockstar too much to download their game.

yeah, I would never do that to R* all I want is to view the game

[Dime]

Even if I knew how to get the game onto my 360 from the torrent, I wouldn't either. I'm not trying to say I'm "loyal to Rockstar" or anything but I just give a gaming company my money for there work.

[Sarge51]

I'd rather buy the game. It's just not the same if you download games and use them on consoles. Call me a neat freak, but I love having the original box, manual, and disc.

Of course, that isn't stopping me from doing it to the PS2.

I have a lot of faith in R*, and they've never once cheated me out of my money.


Edit: Oh hey, is there even a PS2 version being made? Just wondering cause I've not heard anything about it. If it was being made onto the PS2, I'd expect a lot of features and graphic goodness to be lost.

[kel555222]

I pre-ordered this as soon as i knew it was coming out. I really hope the characters have fingers in this version not just a solid hand.

[opn4bzns]

Edit: Oh hey, is there even a PS2 version being made? Just wondering cause I've not heard anything about it. If it was being made onto the PS2, I'd expect a lot of features and graphic goodness to be lost.

No. X360 and PS3 only. I'm guessing there will be a pc version in about 6 months, but there could easily not be.

[Sirnogbert]

I'd rather buy the game. It's just not the same if you download games and use them on consoles. Call me a neat freak, but I love having the original box, manual, and disc.



I'm the same, and though I had a modded PS1 i really regret it now as I can't play all the old games I really liked.

it's hard to believe that this game is coming out in 4 days. It doesn't feel like that long since i was waiting for San Andreas, but really it's been just over 3 and a half years.

[Sirnogbert]

Well I just got the e-mail confirming that it's in the post and on it's way to me. Anybody else who pre-ordered in a similar position?

[EyezOnMe]

Well I just got the e-mail confirming that it's in the post and on it's way to me. Anybody else who pre-ordered in a similar position?


I just checked play.com and it said mine was posted on the 24th.

Out of curiousity, who else ordered from play.com?

[Gudizere]

HMV say's their stock hasn't even been delivered yet!

[P0K3M0N_MA5T3R]

IGN review is out, it got a 10, wow, seems awesome. Glad they fixed all the crap things from other GTA's too, mainly the shooting.

[Dime]

Sweet. Only 3 days left.

Also, thats a crazy rating, does IGN do that a lot?

[Sirnogbert]

IGN review is out, it got a 10, wow, seems awesome. Glad they fixed all the crap things from other GTA's too, mainly the shooting.

The improved shooting is probably the thing that I've been looking forward to the most, It should make the free roaming rampage aspect of the game a lot more fun.

Does anybody have any reliable info about the soundtrack? there's not too much info on the website, and i don't wanna go snooping around google in case I get a massive spoiler thrown in my face.

[opn4bzns]

Also, thats a crazy rating, does IGN do that a lot?

This is the second 10 they've given, ever.

[RessXalcor]

This is the second 10 they've given, ever.

Um.... No... The last perfect 10 they gave was in 1999 for soul Caliber, and before then it was for The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Also Did any of you saw the video? Man that was the shit. The Part where he takes down the Helicopter and it manages to fall on Niko

[opn4bzns]

Um.... No... The last perfect 10 they gave was in 1999 for soul Caliber, and before then it was for The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Oh, sorry, you're right. Third then, but that's still pretty impressive.

[BKS]

Im just hoping a store will have it, and I'll have the money.

I'm really looking forward to this game, and the different ways you can go about missions seems absolutely mouth-watering.

[RessXalcor]

Oh, sorry, you're right. Third then, but that's still pretty impressive.

Yeah it is.... They seem to be stingy about their 10s Like there's a shortage to be giving them out

Either way I am getting this game the day it comes out at midnight

[P0K3M0N_MA5T3R]

Um.... No... The last perfect 10 they gave was in 1999 for soul Caliber, and before then it was for The legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Also Did any of you saw the video? Man that was the shit. The Part where he takes down the Helicopter and it manages to fall on Niko
I must say it looks like they took a lot of things from Mercenaries, the exposions look very similar, and the snaking trails from RPG's, I've seen people do that helicopter thing on Mercenaries as well, but why not steal explosions, when Mercenaries had the best of any game last gen.

[RessXalcor]

I must say it looks like they took a lot of things from Mercenaries, the exposions look very similar, and the snaking trails from RPG's, I've seen people do that helicopter thing on Mercenaries as well, but why not steal explosions, when Mercenaries had the best of any game last gen.

GTA 4 runs on the RAGE engine which means that the explosion will realistic due to the fact that they(R*) are using their own engine, and the explosions will be/are very realistic. Besides you shouldn't compare two different game companies considering that R* takes huge emphasis on their games to make sure their games are perfect. Maybe the people who made mercenaries 2 wanted the game to have realistic explosions also? They are using the Havok engine which is used by the people that made saints row( which had cool explosions also)

[Cristo]

You're pretty damn stupid if you actually believe that. The graphics are fantastic, it's time to look past Crysis and see something that's adapted it's own style and pulled it off amazingly. The city is gigantic, the draw distance is absurdly huge while still pulling off awesome lighting effects, high-quality textures and models. PS2 could never do this, let alone a lot of today's engines. It's quite astonishing.

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/341.jpg

Whoa chill, I was going off the telly adverts and I've been cut off from the internet for a week so I haven't been able to see any of the new trailers/leaked videos. But I saw the IGN vid review and it looks amazing.

Still not getting it until the 15th May, the day I finish my exams.

[Kwanza]

GTA 4 runs on the RAGE engine which means that the explosion will realistic due to the fact that they(R*) are using their own engine, and the explosions will be/are very realistic. Besides you shouldn't compare two different game companies considering that R* takes huge emphasis on their games to make sure their games are perfect. Maybe the people who made mercenaries 2 wanted the game to have realistic explosions also? They are using the Havok engine which is used by the people that made saints row( which had cool explosions also)
Havok is physics and has absolutely nothing to do with explosion effects (minus calculating where debris flies).

[CheesePlease]

I am so fucking annoyed I do not have a console that I can play this on. Hopefully they'll release a PC version later on.

[Sarge51]

Watching Major's Minute showed some pretty good detailed pictures as they talked about the game. Needless to say, I almost crapped my pants in anticipation. I am so glad it's not but a couple of days away from release. Even if I can't grab it, I can still finally get some actual gameplay videos out of it.

[Gudizere]

Mines in the post, Royal Mail special delivery, but it says estimated 2-5 days delivery. It cant be serious, please tell me its just having a laugh.

[Sirnogbert]

Mines in the post, Royal Mail special delivery, but it says estimated 2-5 days delivery. It cant be serious, please tell me its just having a laugh.
It's Royal mail, so no joke. Where did you order from and when? i ordered from Game online almost 4 months ago and they've pretty much guaranteed release date delivery.

[Gudizere]

HMV, they shipped it this morning, if its First Class it should be no problem 29th April, but what the hell does Special Delivery mean?

[opn4bzns]

Apparently if you chose express (first class) delivery it won't arrive until monday, because it comes on the "next business day", so ironically people who chose regular royal mail have got it already.

[Gudizere]

I didn't choose anything, because Special Delivery was a extra fiver so I'd rather have it a day late than waste a fiver, but then HMV dropped me a Email to say "Congratulations! To make sure you get to play GTA IV on Tuesday, we've given you Special Delivery for free!". Obviously, now I am getting Special Delivery, i'll be close to commiting suicide if im gameless on Tuesday.

[wasted space]

Oh, sorry, you're right. Third then, but that's still pretty impressive.

I BELIEVE NOT!

If they gave a ten out of ten on pokemon fire red
http://uk.gameboy.ign.com/articles/159/159846p1.html
mario golf
http://uk.gameboy.ign.com/articles/162/162206p1.html

as well as many other titles :lol:

Yeah, I'm just being a dick. 10/10 on ign is amazing they alwase stinge out on 9.7 etc, which I respect.

Also I have yet to see a review that hasn't given it a ten out of ten

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lkb2ZxaNCww

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/review/grand-theft-auto-iv-the-fluff-free-review/a-20080426131740210029/g-2006051014323586065/p-5#Final%20summary

[Gudizere]

Yeah, I think the lowest its got is 9.5/10 from US OXM

[Hawke]

Gametrailers gave it a 9.8.

[opn4bzns]

Holy shit, it's actually got a straight 100 on MetaCritic (a site that gathers reviews and averages the scores).
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/scores/games/100.gif

[ilovebrownies]

I just bought it at a pre-sale. All I can say is it's just as awesome as I thought. And it got 100% reviews here in Norway as well.

[hardcoresk8r69]

Fucking A. I wanna ask gamestop a simple question about my preorder but their line has been busy for a fucking hour. I can only wonder if it has anything to do with Grand Theft Auto 4...

[Kwanza]

Got it today a day early, all I can say so far is: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

[Sarge51]

Got it today a day early, all I can say so far is: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

I believe you, only because I wouldn't say much more than that if I got it.


I seriously hope I can find one at gamestop tomorrow, with the 30 credits in my account I should be able to get my mom to help pay out the rest. Otherwise I am screwed unless I beg like a sissy fan boy.

[Soul]

I preordered it yesterday and im going to probably pick it up tomorrow when I get home i'm so excited! And damn you Kwanza your so lucky.

[Kwanza]

I don't think I've ever burst out "HOLY SHIT" while playing a video game this much. It's just full of awesome things.

Also, Gamespot gave it a perfect 10. First time they've given a 10 since Ocarina of Time.

[hardcoresk8r69]

I got it at 12 am on the East coast just 20 minutes ago. There was a line, like 25 people and I felt my pride slipping away as I stood in front of that store. You are now reading a post from a shell of a man.

[Sarge51]

I got it at 12 am on the East coast just 20 minutes ago. There was a line, like 25 people and I felt my pride slipping away as I stood in front of that store. You are now reading a post from a shell of a man.

You did what you had to do for the best game of the century. You are forgiven, child. I bet it's worth those 100 people lines of sweaty nerds.

[Sirnogbert]

Waiting for the post SUCKS. Especially since yesterday our post came at 3:45. I'm half tempted to walk up to the local Game, buy a new copy and sell my preorder copy to a mat once he buys a PS3. Damnit I'm desperate.

[TwiztedMuffin]

I waited in a que of nerds too. They looked at me a bit funyn not sure if any of them had seen a real life girl before. The PS3 games all sold out first, luckily for me they had 10 copies of 360 version left and I got the 9th. Couldnt play it long as I had to be up at 5 for work, so played for about an hour and I just love it. I'm at work now missing it slightly. Its hard getting used to the driving but rargh I love it. Havent played online multiplayer yet but will look into that when I get home. yay!

[P0K3M0N_MA5T3R]

I don't think I've ever burst out "HOLY SHIT" while playing a video game this much. It's just full of awesome things.

Also, Gamespot gave it a perfect 10. First time they've given a 10 since Ocarina of Time.
Nope, last 10 they gave was Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3. Don't ask.

[TheHighwaySong]

It came out today, but I pre-ordered the Special Edition. So I should get it Thursday? (2-day shipping). I'm not as excited as I should be, because I'm afraid I'm going to be too busy in the month of May, with exams and finals coming up, but once I find that good hour on the weekend, I'm sure I'll say fuck all my reviews. I can't fucking wait.

[junglebunny]

EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME IS AWESOME

[I_Smell]

I really can't believe how good the reviews are for this game. I'm not readin em all, cos I'll be playing it soon enough and I want to find all the stuff, but shit- And I thought Mario Galaxy got good reviews. I thought CoD 4 got good reviews, but this is ludicrous.

When you crash, you fly through the windscreen. It's hillarious.
I've not got it, but I will by the end of today. SO HELP ME GOD.

[Gudizere]

Oh god, words are not awesome enough to describe this game.

[Sirnogbert]

This game is more fun than scuba diving in chocolate ice cream. Even still, the technical achievement of it all is what impresses me the most, and i've only played for 2 hours. By the last mission I think i'll have died, gone to heaven, then died there and went to were jesus chills.

[some n00b]

Grr I have to wait 'til tomorrow for my copy from argos

[estario]

Got it.
it's just as awesome as expected.

[Sarge51]

I bought it at Walmart. Best Buy had the PS3 version and two special editions for the 360 left, so I just went to Walmart. Now I have an extra month of Xbox Live.

Unfortunately I can't play yet. I got to waste 15 minutes on school work. The case looks super sexy.

[Intestiny Destiny]

Cops N Crooks is so far the funnest mode for multiplayer.

[Hawke]

My mom is one of those uptight bitches who think this game is inhuman, digusting game mainly based on things she's heard and only the bad parts of the game she's seen, and she won't let me get it because of that.

I'm pissed off. Anyone else (who is under 17 obviously) in this situation? This applies to this thread because anything grand theft auto is bound to bring up controversy.

[NVM]

The single player is amazing, I never really liked GTA but the story is very immersing. And the fact that you can take different paths that alter what you do in the story makes it feel like an action packed KOTOR.
And the multiplayer is a bit sloppy but fun. Especially Cop n' Crooks and Mafiaya.
We also need to get a bunch of explosmers on at once to play some Free Mode.

[hardcoresk8r69]

My mom is one of those uptight bitches who think this game is inhuman, digusting game mainly based on things she's heard and only the bad parts of the game she's seen, and she won't let me get it because of that.

I'm pissed off. Anyone else (who is under 17 obviously) in this situation? This applies to this thread because anything grand theft auto is bound to bring up controversy.

My friend has that same problem in school so I got him a copy today and I'm gonna give it to him tomorrow. I get to keep his 1 month free trial for my trouble.

[CreamScreamer]

Oh sweet Jesus, this game is amazing. The story is deep, and the multiplayer is just as awesome.

Also, this game is just screaming for a replay feature.

[BKS]

I don't think I've ever burst out "HOLY SHIT" while playing a video game this much. It's just full of awesome things.

Also, Gamespot gave it a perfect 10. First time they've given a 10 since Ocarina of Time.

Only time I've ever burst was the ending of Bioshock and maybe some other games being beaten, but this was the first where I was like "Holy Shit. Wow." Lost for words.

So far, I love the game. Just about everything is great, my only problem being how touchy the turning is with the cars. 9.9-10 worthy most definitly


The single player is amazing, I never really liked GTA but the story is very immersing. And the fact that you can take different paths that alter what you do in the story makes it feel like an action packed KOTOR.
And the multiplayer is a bit sloppy but fun. Especially Cop n' Crooks and Mafiaya.
We also need to get a bunch of explosmers on at once to play some Free Mode.

Set up a time and that will surely be the most fun anyone has ever had on Xbox Live.

[Tempest]

There are definitely some tweaks that need to be done to the multiplayer matchmaking. It generates uneven teams on several counts, I seem to have problems connecting to a lot of people (Who I can connect to for guitar hero and rock band and such, so it's not my firewall), and it picks a game leader at random and allows them to just go "Hmm, I changed my mind, I'd rather play a different mode". Other than that, and some minor issues with the car handling, this game is absolutely amazing.

[MaxAlcolo]

I didn't think it would bother me that much, but since I can't play the game I'm really considering buying a PS3.

[Sarge51]

I hate when it tries to connect to a game, fails, then sends me back to single player. Lame. I don't think the game is as 'bad' as it used to be, but it's still real great fun. Getting drunk is hilarious, laughing your ass off and tripping over the slightest cracks in the sidewalk. Then there's drunk driving. Wooh!

[opn4bzns]

My mom is one of those uptight bitches who think this game is inhuman, digusting game mainly based on things she's heard and only the bad parts of the game she's seen, and she won't let me get it because of that.

I'm pissed off. Anyone else (who is under 17 obviously) in this situation? This applies to this thread because anything grand theft auto is bound to bring up controversy.

Can't you just go and buy it? Aren't American stores not legally obligated to not sell to minors, since ESRB isn't a government organisation?

(Apologies if you're not American, but I can't think of anywhere else with a 17 rating. I'd probably have the same problem, but you only have to be 15 to get it here.)

[Cristo]

Where'd he get the money from?

And if you can get the money, just get a mate to buy it for you like someone above did since getting it yourself may be troublesome if you only go shopping with your mum or whatever. Also, if a mate gives it to you at school you can hide it in your rucksack, which you couldn't really do if you just went to the shop after school. Unless you bring a rucksack with you every where you go.

[Hawke]

Can't you just go and buy it? Aren't American stores not legally obligated to not sell to minors, since ESRB isn't a government organisation?

(Apologies if you're not American, but I can't think of anywhere else with a 17 rating. I'd probably have the same problem, but you only have to be 15 to get it here.)

I don't know the rules exactly, but I think they are legally obligated not to sell to minors. If not, then they are really strict on the rule to not sell to minors.
But maybe the fact that you only have to be 15 in other regions will give me another argument.

[junglebunny]

I never realized drunk driving was so much fun.

[Hunnter]

I can't wait to play this!
I'm going to wait a bit till the rush has died down. And if there are any bugs with the game, they'll get fixed too i hope! :lol:

Seen a good bunch of the videos for it, so i don't know how long i can hold out before giving into temptation.
I will have to use other games as a distraction.

[Sarge51]

When I bought mine from Walmart the computer thing asked the guy if the buyer was 17+ and since my mom was with me he just continued on. So I suppose for American's it's 18 and up, still. But I am sure there are a couple of places who don't follow the rules or simply don't care.


It took me a long time to get used to the driving physics. I am still not used to it. You can slide out easily, especially if it's raining, and it's almost impossible to go around corners, especially if you use the hand brake, because you'll just end up turning the whole car around.

[hardcoresk8r69]

You need to be 18+(or 17, I don't know the hard facts) to buy this game in America. Not sure about anywhere else but recently it has become a bitch. It used to be so easy to buy M rated games for N64 and ps1 but now everyone needs something to cry about.

[Hawke]

You need to be 18+(or 17, I don't know the hard facts) to buy this game in America. Not sure about anywhere else but recently it has become a bitch. It used to be so easy to buy M rated games for N64 and ps1 but now everyone needs something to cry about.

It's 17, but its still a bitch for people like parents like mine who has to survey every game and point out any flaw that might not be suitable for kids.

[I_Smell]

I GOT IT LOL
Not much goin on so far. Some cool characters and alot of over the top swearing. The game was too dark n shit for a while, I could hardly see at night. I had to turn the brightness n saturation up a bit. Looks allright now.

Some stuff is pretty funny, but what I laughed at the most so far is this part where I was on a bike with Roman; Some jazz music was playing and he was jabberin on about how he remembers what it was like when they were kids- Then I crashed into a fence and mid-sentece he went "OH! JESUS CHRIST!" and they both did star-jump summersalts with bike helmets on over this fence "HOLY SHIT!". Then after we got up, he carried on with the conversation.

It took me a long time to get used to the driving physics. I am still not used to it. You can slide out easily, especially if it's raining, and it's almost impossible to go around corners, especially if you use the hand brake, because you'll just end up turning the whole car around.

Yeah I found it really hard to drive at first. I'm kind of better at it now after about 2 or 3 hours.

[estario]

I had to turn up the brightness too, dunno what's up with that.

The driving is fucked. It's nice that it's so realistic, but i miss being able to just race everywhere easily.


Sat down and watched tv yet?

[hardcoresk8r69]

I love the new driving. It makes the city somewhat bigger because you cannot just drive to the other end in 5 minutes.

As for the bikes, they are awesome but total death traps, especially online! I hit a guy head-on and when I turned around I saw him hit the ground from at least 30 feet in the air. I shit myself laughing because I knew a person just screamed at his TV somewhere in the world.

[Krabby]

We bought this for a friend of mine whose birthday it is today, I'll probably get to his place somewhere this weekend to try it out. I'm looking forward to it :D

[EPIC]

I enjoy driving ice cream trucks full speed into buildings. Theres a glitch so that sometimes you'll fly like 500 ft in the air. It makes me happy.

[Kwanza]

The mission variety is a lot better, there's so many ones where you just sit there thinking, "That's fucking cool."

The heist mission is easily the most fun mission in a video game, ever.

[opn4bzns]

Has anyone Australian noticed anything significant cut from our version?

[Cristo]

I really can't imagine what they'd cut from the game without having to cut out significant amounts.

They can't cut out the swearing, because the dialogue mainly consists of swearing, they can't cut out the violence because the game mainly consists of violence etc.

The only thing I could imagine they might cut out would be any sex scenes with girlfriends, but after the whole Hot Coffee thing I don't even think there are any scenes of a sexual nature (I haven't gotten far enough with the girlfriend bit yet). There are hookers in the game, so like GTA III they might cut those, but other than that I can't possibly imagine what they'd cut.

Edit:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869828p1.html

Aussies aren't missing out on much, just a fixed camera during the sex scene in a car with a hooker. But it's the principles of it really.

[opn4bzns]

I really can't imagine what they'd cut from the game without having to cut out significant amounts.

They can't cut out the swearing, because the dialogue mainly consists of swearing, they can't cut out the violence because the game mainly consists of violence etc.

The only thing I could imagine they might cut out would be any sex scenes with girlfriends, but after the whole Hot Coffee thing I don't even think there are any scenes of a sexual nature (I haven't gotten far enough with the girlfriend bit yet). There are hookers in the game, so like GTA III they might cut those, but other than that I can't possibly imagine what they'd cut.

Edit:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869828p1.html

Aussies aren't missing out on much, just a fixed camera during the sex scene in a car with a hooker. But it's the principles of it really.
Well, good to see it's only very minor. They wouldn't ever cut swearing, you can say 'fuck' and 'cunt' after 8:30pm on free tv here, and at any time on cable. They only get whiny about violence in cases where it's against kids or sexual.

I assume the extremely minor nature of the cuts means it can play against global copies in multiplayer, too.

Edit: and since there have been altogether too few gifs in this thread, here's a lovely one.
http://i27.tinypic.com/mv43h0.gif

[CnGy]

Man this game is the shit.

"You have scared Michelle off"

That finally happened when he started fighting, haha before that though he was running around and the chick was looking at him like "wtf are you doing."

Awesome.

[Cristo]

So wait, are you saying if you fight someone while Michelle is there she dumps you?

[CnGy]

I think so. Not dump. Just the date is over. Haha.

"I'm sorry Michelle sometimes I get carried away."

Am I the only one that thinks Niko and his cousin sound like borat?

[Cristo]

Actually, Niko reminds me of Nikolai from Eastern Promises.

Actually, everything about GTA IV reminds me of Eastern promises, I don't know why.

[Cristo]

Sorry for double post but:

Is it just me or is Michelle really weird and suspicious? She keeps asking me what I do, whether it's criminal, whether Roman is a criminal, if I'm hanging out with bad people whilst she never EVER says anything about herself. Where is she from? According to her she's from "Somewhere....Err the Midwest" and when I asked her what she does, she just asked me instead.

No spoilers please, if you're played far enough and know something about her please don't tell I'm just asking what others think as well.

Also, I haven't gotten my own place yet I'm just in the starting apartment, but I forgot if there is a place to store your cars?

[Kwanza]

In the parking spaces outside of your safehouses.

[Cristo]

Ahh excellent, thanks.

[I_Smell]

I got to TW@ today and there's like nothing on the internet. What the hell, I can't even buy anything.

I get the feeling I'm still (STILL) in the tutorials part of the game.
These radio stations really aren't very good :indiff:
Also, it sounds like that cult's still around.


http://i27.tinypic.com/mv43h0.gif

http://i31.tinypic.com/2eelypt.gif

[Far]

So I have something that needs resolving, I had to leave my 360 back home, however, I have enough to get one of the arcade versions and gta4 right now, I think. Is it worth buying another 360, as well as another copy of gta4 because my brother has already boughten it back home, even though my other one will be coming here in august or should I just wait?

[RessXalcor]

I have unlocked all the islands... The bank heist has to be the best mission ever. Seriously

[TheHighwaySong]

Finally found some time to play it. Fuckin' shit this is AWESOME. Driving is still a little weird for me, I've been crashing into poles and trees and whatnot, but not fast enough to fly out the windshield. It's still gonna take some time getting used to turning, the handbrake is weird. ONE THING that I did like to notice is that whenever you walk up stairs, he actually walks on each individual step. :dance:

[Sarge51]

Wow, how the hell did you guys get that far into the game? ...Maybe I am just playing around too much and not playing the game as much as I should... I just recently unlocked the second island. Roman's Sorrow, I've done quite a few missions since then, but nothing really improving for the storyline.

While we are sharing stories, just earlier I was low on health and was fixing to head somewhere once I got into a car, I started to walk and could hear an ambulance in the background once I got to the sidewalk BAM I got knocked over by the ambulance, then the second tire went over me and killed me, while this was going on I was drunk with Roman, as well. So that totally interrupted our 'date'.

Also I was going to take Michelle bowling for the second time, and I was on a bike and the GPS lead me to a dead end, and the bowling alley was right across some rocks, I figured I could drive across them on the bike, unfortunately I hit the first rock way too hard and Michelle went flying off the back of the bike and said I was insane.

I want to play with someone in free mode and just wreck havoc on the city. But most people just want to kill each other...

[Cristo]

Muahaha I finally mastered hand break turning.

You should only press it slightly, whilst accelarating and turning against the way you want to go.

Also, Multiplayer fucking rocks. Especially if it's with a friend and you can co-ordinate shit.

[junglebunny]

Multiplayer doesn't fucking work for me :mad::mad::mad:
I just keep getting the "disconnected for game. returning to single player" or whatever message. Anyone else have this problem?

Also canceling dates is fucking hilarious. I was going to pick up Roman to get drunk and hit a pedestrian and a cop saw me. He turned his lights on and I shot him and his partner in the face through the windshield. Next thing I know I have four stars and like 6 or 7 cops speeding up behind me trying to shoot out my tires while I'm running down people trying to escape. "Sorry Roman, I'm afraid I'm going to have to cancel our plans."

[JonC]

For those who haven't gotten that far in the game, don't read the spoiler below (I'm looking at your MCR_Rules)

Michelle's a fucking bitch, she took the damn coke from us! But oh well, I screwed her a few times and whatnot. I did think something was up with her though, all the questions and whatnot.

I got the game a couple days ago, and its fucking great, it seriously is. I like the changes they made to it. The shooting is easier, you can take cover(which is a bit... wonky-ish at times, but it works), the driving and shooting is better, the dialogue is superb, and the radio stations are funny as fuck like they always have been. Oh and Laslo, still funny.

I love going online and reading the news articles because the shit's hillarious. Like the guy who keeps decapitating joggers and whatnot. Oh and the missions are great too, there's a great variety in them, and they still have humor too. I've never been a super duper fan of GTA, I mean, I liked Vice City a whooole lot because it was the 80's and it was hillarious. But, San Andreas didn't do it for me, it was okay, but it seemed a bit bland. Maybe just too much tedious shit to do (eating, etc). Plus, I don't really remember any funny moments about it. But GTA IV has that humor in it with all the characters and such.

I'm also glad they finally fixed their hands where they're not shaped like cups or the letter "C" anymore. I always thought that was funny.

But yea, the game's awesome. Oh and I love the new wanted system, it still proves difficult at times(I've had three stars at the most) to get rid of it, but it seems a bit more...fair in a way (thought still far fetch'd in some ways). I also like how if you steal a cop car you can access the computer.

[TheHighwaySong]

I like how they changed the controls for fighting. In the same mission where I learned to fight I got to knock someone down from 3 stories above so they fell to the ground. The cover system is pretty cool too, where you can hide behind cars or behind walls. And I especially love that the cops aren't totally stupid now. It's just so real.

The European radio station is catchy as fuck too.

[PartyPooper]

Ah, I hope I'll get my hands on the game tomorrow or over 2 days.

A few questions to fill my hunger for GTA:

- can you sit down everywhere ? ( not just on the bed )
- can you go directly everywhere you'd like to ? are there invisible walls ?
- is the driving part as bad as people complain it is ?
- any rock radio posts ?
- could you post more gifs ? I WANT TO DEVOUR THEM NOM NOM NOM

Thanks

[Cristo]

I like how they changed the controls for fighting. In the same mission where I learned to fight I got to knock someone down from 3 stories above so they fell to the ground. The cover system is pretty cool too, where you can hide behind cars or behind walls. And I especially love that the cops aren't totally stupid now. It's just so real.

The European radio station is catchy as fuck too.

You mean Valdivostok? Yeah there's this one song that's crazy catchy.

I really like Liberty City Rock and Radio Broker so far, but I have yet to find out which one Lazlow is on.

[RessXalcor]

Its called Intregrety 2.0

[TheHighwaySong]

You mean Valdivostok? Yeah there's this one song that's crazy catchy.


If it's the one with the girl singing in Russian I'm way ahead of you. :hmm:

[hardcoresk8r69]

I really can't imagine what they'd cut from the game without having to cut out significant amounts.

They can't cut out the swearing, because the dialogue mainly consists of swearing, they can't cut out the violence because the game mainly consists of violence etc.

They cut out a certain cut scene where some guy gets an object shoved up his asshole . And this was Rockstar's idea to cut it out; not Australia.

[Sirnogbert]

Just finished the last mission. All I can say is that any HOLY SHIT'S I had at the start of the game have been magnified by about 20. I'm also fairly sure that there are multiple endings, as there are a few important decisions to make. Just to reiterate, HOLY SHIT.

[I_Smell]

I'll tell you what's different about this and other GTA games: Killing people makes me feel like a twat.

I failed this mission, and I thought right fuck it, rampage. There was nobody really near me, so I ran up some stairs and found a guy wandering about. I started a fight with him, he started winning, so I knifed the shit out of him. Except no cops came; So I was standing there with a knife, standing over this dead guy and it was weird because Niko wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do that, so why did I just knife a guy? What am I, some kind of creepy motherfucker? I could be bowling right now.

I thought oh, cos it's cool when the cops chase you. So I went shotgun crazy on some fools, and before the police showed up, I ran out of shotgun ammo. There was this guy that I'd only just got in the leg, so he was limping away, kind of fell over a bit, got up, told me to shoot him, I didn't, then he just leaned against a tree and slowly bled to death. I thought shit, that wasn't funny. Then some cops came and shot me dead. There was nothing fun about that either.

Has anyone else had something like that happen unexpectedly?

[Cristo]

Yeah, the Game creators and directors have done really well in creating sympathy and empathy for Niko. I don't kill people unles it's necessary - still cars sure, but not hurt people.

I feel just like you do, and it's kind of weird.

[Sirnogbert]

God damnit my game won't load up. The data hasn't corruppted, which is a good sign, but it's rather irritating.

[Sarge51]

I like how if you fail a mission, and it's a mission where someone talks to you on the way to a destination, and you retry the person talking will say something different than last time. Which is EXCELLENT, because I hate hearing the same thing over and over again unless it's really funny. (Like the heist mission in GTA: Vice City, hilarious.)

I don't really like the radio stations, so I turned them off. Usually I like listening to the public shows where they talk political and whatnot. Wasn't Lazlo the guy in Vice City Stories with that really metal guy? and in the original Vice City? Or is he just in all the games...

I hope the game doesn't disappoint me. I think getting money and arming yourself is WAY easier than it used to be. I used to stress about not being able to arm up with a simple pistol due to not having any money, which is why I used cheat codes.

[Tweek]

Lazlow has helped write all the radio stations, the commercials and some pedestrian dialogue together with Dan Houser since GTA III, and has appeared on the radio on every game since then too.

[TheHighwaySong]

Yeah within like the 5th missioin I already had like 321 ammo for just my pistol :indiff:

And I did notice the whole failing the mission, re-doing it, and the dialogue being different. For me it was when you first met the Jamaican guy, and you learned the cover system. I was still slow on figuring out how to lock on so the drug dealers killed him It gave you the option to re-do it (via-cell phone, so you won't have to drive back!) and when they said something different I literally said, "Whoa...this shit is real."

[Tweek]

Wow.
But do you think that with such realistic features that the game has lost some of it's value?
I know I Smell said it kind of has, and it is what I was worried about.

[TheHighwaySong]

I've only just begun, so I cannot say much yet. I don't think it has.

Is it just me, or when it rains, do the roads actually get sliippery and your car becomes harder to maneuver?

[Cristo]

Wow.
But do you think that with such realistic features that the game has lost some of it's value?
I know I Smell said it kind of has, and it is what I was worried about.

No way, it's still as fun as ever and Niko is by far one of the most likeable, if not THE most likeable character in the series.

[I_Smell]

I like how if you fail a mission, and it's a mission where someone talks to you on the way to a destination, and you retry the person talking will say something different than last time. Which is EXCELLENT, because I hate hearing the same thing over and over again unless it's really funny. (Like the heist mission in GTA: Vice City, hilarious.)

I liked that up until this particular mission: I'll just say you're driving around with Roman, and there's alot of fire;
Cos Roman's business and home is burning down. The first time I did it, Niko wasn't doing alot of talking and Roman was having a breakdown. He was goin mad about how he came to America with no home and no money, then after years he's got this small business together. Then how Niko came and he had somewhere to go, he was complaining about how shitty Roman's appartment was, got them both into mob trouble and got Roman's home and business burned down and now they're on the run. It really put things into perspective with how Roman built his life up from nothing, then Niko came and fucked it all up.

When I played the mission a second time though, the conversation was mostly Niko makin jokes about Roman and calling him a liar. It just made him seem like a total jerk. I would've rather heard the first conversation again.

I didn't really like the radio stations until I found Lazlow on a station called Integrity 2.0. I didn't even know which one Lazlow was, but it was alot funnier than that other shite.

[Werty]

I'll tell you what's different about this and other GTA games: Killing people makes me feel like a twat.

I failed this mission, and I thought right fuck it, rampage. There was nobody really near me, so I ran up some stairs and found a guy wandering about. I started a fight with him, he started winning, so I knifed the shit out of him. Except no cops came; So I was standing there with a knife, standing over this dead guy and it was weird because Niko wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do that, so why did I just knife a guy? What am I, some kind of creepy motherfucker? I could be bowling right now.

I thought oh, cos it's cool when the cops chase you. So I went shotgun crazy on some fools, and before the police showed up, I ran out of shotgun ammo. There was this guy that I'd only just got in the leg, so he was limping away, kind of fell over a bit, got up, told me to shoot him, I didn't, then he just leaned against a tree and slowly bled to death. I thought shit, that wasn't funny. Then some cops came and shot me dead. There was nothing fun about that either.

Has anyone else had something like that happen unexpectedly?

That's funny, I'm sorry. Maybe i was the way you put it, but, I personally that it was funny.

But, no, I can't say I have. I'll have to go try that in a bit.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just had to go through this mission, more or less just killing whatever moved; shot this kid down, he dropped his gun, and then he got back up. He just said "I don't wanna die, man." But I had already shot him again. I feel horrible right now.

[Sarge51]

The roads do seem to get a little slicker when it's raining, but it's really only noticeable when you're making the transition from normal weather to rain, and when I first noticed I was on a bike, and I couldn't keep it straight, though that WAS when I was still learning how to drive well.

The game still feels like GTA, but I miss the good radio stations, and how you could outrun cars sometimes and jack them. Also, no airplanes. But I guess that's okay, since it's not a real huge map. Maybe in GTA5. I can dream.

I think the whole "Try Again" message is crap most of the time. Sure you don't have to drive TO the start of the mission. But you still have to drive to the place afterwards, they took away the "Skip Drive" option if you've already done it.

The game isn't perfect, and can be annoying in some situations, but it's still great.

The aim system can be annoying at times, as well.



and no, I_Smell, that seems pretty darn funny to me...

[xkittenxsocksx]

So I have something that needs resolving, I had to leave my 360 back home, however, I have enough to get one of the arcade versions and gta4 right now, I think. Is it worth buying another 360, as well as another copy of gta4 because my brother has already boughten it back home, even though my other one will be coming here in august or should I just wait?

From my taster of it yesterday I'd say it's definitely worth it, after my exams are over I'm grafting 24/7 just to save up for a 360 to play it. Have you decided whether or not to drain your paper yet?