Over Rated Band or Solo Person

[fabz]

We have the Under Rated thread, come in here and state your claim for the most over rated band.

And if someone says why they are over rated and you don't agree with that, then state your claim about why they're awesome, then we would have a debate.

This is my thread so I'm going to say the band I absolutely hate, Nickleback. They are so over produced and no talent hacks that I can't listen to their music at all. That blonde hair douche that sings is so fucking apathetic when he sings and the songs are so cliche that I seriously hate that band.

Another band that I thought was over rated, was Van Halen with Sammy Haggar. He just wasn't as good. I know they sold a shit load of music after Roth and some of those songs are good, but I just don't think Sammy has the same...charisma as Roth.

[Assassin]

Nirvana. Ok they have some good songs but come on :indiff:

[Tempest]

Nirvana. Ok they have some good songs but come on :indiff:

Agreed. I don't see why everyone makes such a huge deal of Nirvana. There's plenty of coked-up musicians nowadays and back then making songs that don't make any sense. I don't think that the bullshit cover-all of a 'deeper meaning' gives them any sort of reason to make nonsensical songs. Deeper meaning my ass, Kurt Cobain was too strung out on heroin to come up with some inane psychobabble, it's just songs with some catchy instruments and some lyrics that make no sense.

Also, System of a Down. See above rant about not making any goddamn sense.

[Gratisgulasch]

Radiohead, anyone? Their music is nice and calm background music, but come on, it doesn't justify the hype around this band. The whole world just went apeshit about In Rainbows this year and again, it's just nice background music - at least in my view. But the British always were good at passing trivial music off as trailblazingly innovative.

[abbey]

Miley Cyrus. I know it's music for 12 year old girls, but her one song is actually at the top of the charts on Much on Demand, the biggest countdown show in Canada. Her voice is crap. Her choreography is horrible. Her music video sucks.

I don't see why everyone's going crazy over it.

[The Bobster]

Children Of Bodom. They are ok, but their songs are too repetitive.

[abbey]

System of a Down. I just don't see what's so appealing about them. Sarj Tankian actually has a pretty bad voice in my opinion.

[Oofie]

Smashing Pumpkins. I actually like quite a few of their songs but my fuck, Billy Corgan's voice gets irritating. Zwan for that same reason, I guess.

[Raxo]

I will go with Snoop Dogg because he made one good album 14 years ago but many people still like him even though he hasn't had anything original since then. Many people still like but only because he's that guy who puts "-izzle" at the end of his words.

[Sirnogbert]

The White Stripes irritate me a great deal. They're music is incredibly boring and does not justify the success they've had. The same could be said about a lot of the ''indie'' that are popular at the moment.

[badumpbumpbump]

The White Stripes irritate me a great deal. They're music is incredibly boring and does not justify the success they've had. The same could be said about a lot of the ''indie'' that are popular at the moment.

My brother said something similar, about how all of their songs were simple and repetitive.

Fall Out Boy, they are overrated and I found it kind of hard to tell some of their songs apart. Also, the vocalist is sort of irritating and the song titles are strange.

[Raxo]

Could you give more reasons as to why Fallout Boy sucks? I mean saying they suck explains nothing.

[Dodger]

Lil' Wayne. I know there's not many rap-lovers here but I am one, and I absolutely hate Weezy. People act as if he's the hottest shit since sliced bread, when he's nothing more than a industry-produced, mainstream, top 40, synthetic "rapper" marketed to mindless teeny-boppers.
I had some argument with a group of kids last friday about this because they think Weezy is the best rapper alive (which is completely laughable, in my opinion). And when they asked who I thought was good they didn't know anyone I said, including Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, even Talib Kweli or Common, the only one they recognized was Eminem (and then only recognized his shit songs "Ass like that" or "Just Lose it".)

It really pisses me off that artists are ranked more on popularity than actual talent.

[Mr Anorexia]

AC/DC

Their lyrics are horrible and like all of their songs are about getting laid, drunk, and stoned. Most people only know like 6 of their songs, but people like them because they are the badass group that's been around forever.

[MistyTehMoose]

Could you give more reasons as to why Fallout Boy sucks? I mean saying they suck explains nothing.

I will. I believe they're overrated because of their shallow lyrics and mediocre talent. They know how to play an instrument, but they don't know how to play it well. Also the guys voice is just grating.

Also, Dragonforce. Granted, their guitarist is excellent, but the rest of the band is just riding on his talent.

[Kenneh]

U2. All of their songs sound the fucking same.

And Linkin Park. Their new album is really shit, and they whine about their problems in their lyrics. Their guitarists also have no talent at all, atleast play some solos instead of repititive power chord progressions, jackass. The keyboard (synthesizer, whatever) solos are pretty melodic, though.

[abbey]

Nikelback. Another band whose songs sound exactly the same. It's ridiculous how big of a following they have though.

[MistyTehMoose]

Nikelback. Another band whose songs sound exactly the same. It's ridiculous how big of a following they have though.

I hate his voice so fucken much.

[Mr Anorexia]

Paramore. They aren't anything great, the only reason they are so popular is because guys are cumming in their pants over Haley Williams.

[GCBC]

Fergie as a solo artist and as a member of the Black Eyed Peas (who were actually good when no one knew about them :mad:). I can't stand her voice, and why is she always constantly spelling words in her songs? Is she trying to prove she's smart? Cause it's not working. And Gwen Stefani too. Ugh.

[Random_Hero]

The Beatles. They're good but come the fuck on. Up off your knees lad, no more sperm to be had.

[Tweek]

Miley Cyrus. I know it's music for 12 year old girls, but her one song is actually at the top of the charts on Much on Demand, the biggest countdown show in Canada. Her voice is crap. Her choreography is horrible. Her music video sucks.

I don't see why everyone's going crazy over it.

Kids these days (I'm talking anyone born after 1995) are suckers for the record companys. That's why the 'emo' and 'scene' subcultures were/are able to prosper - because these kids go for what's popular.

Smashing Pumpkins. I actually like quite a few of their songs but my fuck, Billy Corgan's voice gets irritating. Zwan for that same reason, I guess.
I totally agree, I can't listen to them, no matter how hard I try.

Fergie as a solo artist and as a member of the Black Eyed Peas (who were actually good when no one knew about them ). I can't stand her voice, and why is she always constantly spelling words in her songs? Is she trying to prove she's smart? Cause it's not working. And Gwen Stefani too. Ugh.
Yeah, I remember seeing their first song with Fergie on Video Hits a few years back and I was like, wait, what? This isn't the Black Eyed Peas!

[Sirnogbert]

Also, Dragonforce. Granted, their guitarist is excellent, but the rest of the band is just riding on his talent.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on one aspect there. Sure the band is hugely overrated, but they're not all just riding on Herman's ability. Sam is a really great songwriter and writes most of the melodies in the solo's, Herman tends to improvise a lot. Fred is a solid bassist, and bass is becoming more important to the band since he joined ( Their old bassist had a bit of a ''juust there for the tours'' attitude, despite being an actual band member ). vadim is also a really excellent keyboardist, and at such a young age there's definitely room for him to do great things. Finally Dave does what does well, and that;s playing blast beats at stupid speeds for extended periods of time. Any drummer can do that for an entire live show without dying is decent in my eye.

[fabz]

Paramore. They aren't anything great, the only reason they are so popular is because guys are cumming in their pants over Haley Williams.

I heard their latest efforts and it's not terrible. I really don't think we can say they're over rated until their next album comes out and it's total shit.

A band on here that I'm surprised no one has mentioned. Linkin Park. They have one good song every album they put out. The dude that raps is good the rest of the band are mediocre at best. Chester is such a flaming homosexual it's not even funny. I wish they would follow the path of their poser emo fans and take their lives. Or go solo.

[MSB]

Dave Matthews Band. I don't know why, but his voice just irritates the fuck out of me. Plus, all their songs sound the same.

Alanis Morrisette. Her voice is just plain awful. She does have a few catchy songs, but they make me want to rip my ears off.

Smashing Pumpkins. Not a fan, at all. Billy Corgan is creepy, and every song sounds like the same song but with different words.


So basically, I hate weird voices and similar sounding songs.

[Jade]

Kanye West really annoys me. All he raps about is how great he is. After I hear a song a couple times I'm sick of it. If he wasn't so damn cocky I would probably like him more but his attitude just ruins his music for me.

[azunder]

Radiohead, anyone? Their music is nice and calm background music, but come on, it doesn't justify the hype around this band. The whole world just went apeshit about In Rainbows this year and again, it's just nice background music - at least in my view. But the British always were good at passing trivial music off as trailblazingly innovative.

Well i'm going to have to disagree completely. The music can be background music, but when you listen to them properly the songs are incredibley complex. I regularly revisit their albums and hear them differently each time.

I must admit 'In Rainbows' has been over hyped though.

As for over-rated bands, well i'll just turn on Radio 1 for a few minutes to find out.

[Halucinagenia]

Led zeppelin.

I do not understand how this band is regarded by alot of people as the "GREATEST BAND EVER!!11" ok, i suppose they sounded way ahead of their time back then but i dont see what really makes them so great.

[fabz]

Led zeppelin.

I do not understand how this band is regarded by alot of people as the "GREATEST BAND EVER!!11" ok, i suppose they sounded way ahead of their time back then but i dont see what really makes them so great.

And this is the exact reason I started this thread. I knew someone was going to come in here and say something really stupid like that.

And let's break it down.

John Bonham- Drums. The man took so many aspects of music and rhythm and made them work. I suggest listening to "Moby Dick" and then realizing that not many people can do what he did on that song. He not only filled out their sound but knew when to add a drum fill and when not to.

John Paul Jones- Bass, Keys, Mandolin, and other various instruments. My personal favorite member of Led Zeppelin. He did so much for that band as far as arrangements and recording. And then being able to keep up with Jimmy Page as far as riffs were concerned. Truly a master of music in more ways then one. I suggest listen to "Trampled Under Foot" and being like wow, he's doing a lot with those key boards.

Jimmy Page- Guitar/ Producer. Jimmy's guitar sounds and his technique, all be it sloppy at times, brought a totally new way of looking at the guitar and realizing what a four piece band could do. He could solo over almost anything and have it be the hardest fucking thing you ever heard or whip an acoustic guitar and writing some of the prettiest songs ever. He was a master at production and helped produce the majority of their albums. Please see "Stairway to Heaven", "When the Levee Breaks" and "In My Time of Dying" for a combination of his talents.

Robert Plant- Plant was the youngest member of Led Zeppelin. His vocals were so bluesy at times and then he could sounds like a choir boy when he wanted to. He could give you a deep growl and then he scream his balls off. He could hit the high notes and sustain them.

They have sold out more places, sold more records, had bigger concerts, then anyone on the face of the planet. They were the perfect hard rock band and are the basis for many bands even today. They are seen as untouchable and mysterious because they are.

Don't think that because you heard "Going to California" on your father's radio that you know a damn thing about Led Zeppelin. Go back and listen to all of their music and try and not tell me they were and are amazing.

[Gudizere]

Most things that are in the charts these days are overrated.

But i'll stick to what I know so :

Gun's N Roses -

They just arn't that good. Slash isnt that awesome at guitar, and Axel just screams the same lyrics over and over. And his lyrics are just like their songs : The Same.

And my mind is blank, but I will come back once I think of some more!

[Halucinagenia]

And this is the exact reason I started this thread. I knew someone was going to come in here and say something really stupid like that.

And let's break it down.

John Bonham- Drums. The man took so many aspects of music and rhythm and made them work. I suggest listening to "Moby Dick" and then realizing that not many people can do what he did on that song. He not only filled out their sound but knew when to add a drum fill and when not to.

John Paul Jones- Bass, Keys, Mandolin, and other various instruments. My personal favorite member of Led Zeppelin. He did so much for that band as far as arrangements and recording. And then being able to keep up with Jimmy Page as far as riffs were concerned. Truly a master of music in more ways then one. I suggest listen to "Trampled Under Foot" and being like wow, he's doing a lot with those key boards.

Jimmy Page- Guitar/ Producer. Jimmy's guitar sounds and his technique, all be it sloppy at times, brought a totally new way of looking at the guitar and realizing what a four piece band could do. He could solo over almost anything and have it be the hardest fucking thing you ever heard or whip an acoustic guitar and writing some of the prettiest songs ever. He was a master at production and helped produce the majority of their albums. Please see "Stairway to Heaven", "When the Levee Breaks" and "In My Time of Dying" for a combination of his talents.

Robert Plant- Plant was the youngest member of Led Zeppelin. His vocals were so bluesy at times and then he could sounds like a choir boy when he wanted to. He could give you a deep growl and then he scream his balls off. He could hit the high notes and sustain them.

They have sold out more places, sold more records, had bigger concerts, then anyone on the face of the planet. They were the perfect hard rock band and are the basis for many bands even today. They are seen as untouchable and mysterious because they are.

Don't think that because you heard "Going to California" on your father's radio that you know a damn thing about Led Zeppelin. Go back and listen to all of their music and try and not tell me they were and are amazing.

Why do you assume that the moment i give them any kind of critism that ive only ever heard one song by them? I dont even understand why you think i should do my research on a band that i dont really find appealing, but have you got a serious case of butthurt or what?

My mum and my best friend are avid led zeppelin fans and ive heard quite a number of their songs.
I listened to those songs you suggested and they were well... alright songs, i suppose i can understand where your coming from saying how the noises they made were uber good back then and i didn't find them exactly mindblowing best of all time stuff, i found some songs quite... bland for lack of a better word. just im not a fan of classic rock. the sound isn't hugely appealing to me so naturally im not going to find led zeppelin that good. hense the critism?

[Allen]

Imma argue a few things here:

Nickelback - Trust me, you don't hate them more than me. But I'd like to point out that they weren't always the horrible, generic shit-shovelers they are today. I'd like to point out that Silver Side Up was actually a pretty decent album, where Kroeger showcased an ability to write haunting vocal melodies and actually put some emotion into his music. Not all of the songs sounded the same and they clearly had talent. Damn shame they've squandered it by making some of the most mediocre, boring, repetitive music I've ever hear.

Fall Out Boy - So many people get on their case. And it's always rockers. And I don't understand that. They aren't a rock band. They're a pop band. Granted they're not the greatest musicians ever, but it beats the shit out of the bubble-gum pop bullshit that's ruled the pop scene for over a decade. These are guys playing actual instruments yet still making some catchy pop music. Now, I'm no fan, and I only like a couple of their songs at all, but give credit where it's due. Hopefully they're the beginning of taking pop back, because it hasn't always sucked. And with bands like them, PANIC! At The Disco, and Head Automatica, I'm a little more optimistic about the future of pop music. Still not the greatest and most innovative music, but it's miles ahead of the syntesized Britney Spears type shit that we've been forced to hear in some way or another, whether we listen to the radio or not.


Why do you assume that the moment i give them any kind of critism that ive only ever heard one song by them? I dont even understand why you think i should do my research on a band that i dont really find appealing, but have you got a serious case of butthurt or what?

My mum and my best friend are avid led zeppelin fans and ive heard quite a number of their songs.
I listened to those songs you suggested and they were well... alright songs, i suppose i can understand where your coming from saying how the noises they made were uber good back then and i didn't find them exactly mindblowing best of all time stuff, i found some songs quite... bland for lack of a better word. just im not a fan of classic rock. the sound isn't hugely appealing to me so naturally im not going to find led zeppelin that good. hense the critism?

Are you fucking kidding me? You're not a fan of "classic rock"? You're probably one of these people that subscribe to the idea of music "progressing" and sounding better as time goes on. Yet you refuse to give proper credit to the people that actually had to break through and make the music you listen to possible. Without Led Zeppelin, I guarantee your music probably wouldn't exist.

Even still, I can understand you not being that big of a fan. But to say that they're over rated? Shut your mouth. It's very hard to put a limit on the amount of praise that should be given to these gentlemen. And it's not like AC/DC either, where people just listen to them because they think it's the cool thing to do. If someone claims to be a Led Zeppelin fan, they usually are a Led Zeppelin fan. They've had 40 years to form a fan-base. That's not being over rated. That's making music that lasts.

[fabz]

Retort

Because I feel it's people that like music and it's current state, but don't understand where it comes from that actually make what people listen to terrible. It's people that don't understand how we got to the current popular musical state but listen to what's there now, and take it as amazing when it's really shit. And that really isn't opinion, it's fact. The current top twent albums with the exception of Alicia Keys, John Legend and Radiohead, are talentless. That's right. They suck.

There's no musicianship in music anymore and by you saying you think Led Zeppelin is over rated leaves me to believe that you don't understand what that band has done for other artists after them. They inspired thousands upon thousands of people to pick up an instrument and write something, anything. They were the soundtrack for a generation of soldiers and flower children, teens and college kids. Countless musicians have listed them as inspiration and influences for their music.

So just because you have listened to their songs, you can't say their over rated because millions upon millions of people can't be wrong. You just don't like them and that's fine. But don't say their over rated because you don't like them.

Thank you Allen for agreeing with me.

[Shagg]

Led zeppelin.

I do not understand how this band is regarded by alot of people as the "GREATEST BAND EVER!!11" ok, i suppose they sounded way ahead of their time back then but i dont see what really makes them so great.

Do you know anything about music? Led Zeppelin was maybe the most influential band to all the newer bands around in the 70's (even Deep Purple and Black Sabbath) to even now. Bonham was a pioneer in drumming, Page was a magnificent guitarist with his riffs and solos, and Jones was the best bass player you had, competing with John Entwistle.

Sure, Allen and Fabz already kinda ripped you a new one, but this just makes me angry how naive you are.

[Raxo]

2pac gets too much credit and so does the Notorious B.I.G mostly because they died young but I'm tired of everyone only mentioning these two rappers as the best ever.

2pac had a whole mess of crap repetitive songs and he never released an album that was good from beginning to end. Also the posthumous albums released by 2pac are horrendous with many songs that 2pac himself probably wouldn't have released.

Biggie's second album, Life After Death is the most overrated album ever with so many crap filler songs that I'm amazed people think it's a classic album.

[Pelican Man]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on one aspect there. Sure the band is hugely overrated, but they're not all just riding on Herman's ability.

Dragonforce are known as 'the band with the crazy fast guitar playing'. I really don't like them that much, I mean, I listen to their songs on occasion, but it's almost like they're just jerking off on how good they are. It's cool that they have that much talent, but they shouldn't need to show it off all the time.

I listened to those songs you suggested and they were well... alright songs, i suppose i can understand where your coming from saying how the noises they made were uber good back then and i didn't find them exactly mindblowing best of all time stuff, i found some songs quite... bland for lack of a better word. just im not a fan of classic rock.

It seems to me that you just don't like their style of music. But even then, you should be able to understand why they're successful; they're talented musicians and songwriters. And they've influenced a majority of the good bands of today, who grew up listening to the Zep.

You don't have to like them, but calling them overrated? Idiocy.

[drunkchuck]

DragonForce. Or more specifically, the two guitarists in DragonForce. I can't stand how people seem to think that they're the best in the world. Herman Li is not the fastest, not the most technical, not the cleanest. Not by a long shot. Sam's technique is absolutely horrible and even playing the simple shit he does, he still manages to make it sound sloppy as hell. The worst thing is, people see them live and still think they're the greatest! I saw DragonForce live, it was terrible. Very very sloppy, out of tune, out of time with each other. After the show, most of the people I talked to said it was "amazing" "Herman Li is the best guitarist ever." To me, that says a lot about DragonForce fans. Mainly it tells me that they have shitty ears for music. While I was there, I recommended aural perception classes to a few of them.

Also, Kirk Hammett of Metallica. He wrote some decent riffs, but to me his solos always seemed sub-par. Especially when you put him up next to Marty Friedman from Megadeth.

[Dodger]

Kanye West really annoys me. All he raps about is how great he is. After I hear a song a couple times I'm sick of it. If he wasn't so damn cocky I would probably like him more but his attitude just ruins his music for me.

I think that's a real stupid reason to not like music. I hate when people claim they don't like a artist's music, just because they don't like the artists themselves. I think Kanye does great music and hope he continues making them, but I wouldn't like to hang out with him or anything, I just like his music.

Just like everyone that saying that Amy Winehouse doesn't deserve awards because she's a druggie, she's puts out great music and that's all the responsibility a musician should have (towards the public I mean, obviously she has more responsibilities to herself and those around her).

I think this is all just an effect of the tabloid and sensationalistic culture we have where we give more of crap about what a person does in private rather than if they do their job well or not.

[Random_Hero]

I think that's a real stupid reason to not like music. I hate when people claim they don't like a artist's music, just because they don't like the artists themselves. I think Kanye does great music and hope he continues making them, but I wouldn't like to hang out with him or anything, I just like his music.

I think he was just referring to his rap style. In which case, I'd agree with him. I love Kayne's hip-hop style, but his cocky attitude towards rap just blows my mind.

[TheHighwaySong]

The Beatles. Seriously, almost every white person I know loves them. I have several friends who are now going through Beatles phases because of that Across The Universe movie. I just don't get it. Sure some songs are catchy, and they dissed Jesus, but so what?

Nirvana. The excuse of every angry depressed kid. And to think Dave Grohl used to be in it, and Kirst Novoselic is now a politician. Courtney Love should kill herself too.

I mentioned this in the "Metal Thread! Muhfuck!" thread. Dream Theatre. I just seriously do not get them. Yes, they're talented musicians, but when you put the all of them together, it just doesn't make sense to me. I don't get why people think Myung is such a bass god. The vocalist isn't all too great in my opinion. The drummer is really the only person of quality in that band.

[JonC]

And this is the exact reason I started this thread. I knew someone was going to come in here and say something really stupid like that.

And let's break it down.

John Bonham- Drums. The man took so many aspects of music and rhythm and made them work. I suggest listening to "Moby Dick" and then realizing that not many people can do what he did on that song. He not only filled out their sound but knew when to add a drum fill and when not to.

John Paul Jones- Bass, Keys, Mandolin, and other various instruments. My personal favorite member of Led Zeppelin. He did so much for that band as far as arrangements and recording. And then being able to keep up with Jimmy Page as far as riffs were concerned. Truly a master of music in more ways then one. I suggest listen to "Trampled Under Foot" and being like wow, he's doing a lot with those key boards.

Jimmy Page- Guitar/ Producer. Jimmy's guitar sounds and his technique, all be it sloppy at times, brought a totally new way of looking at the guitar and realizing what a four piece band could do. He could solo over almost anything and have it be the hardest fucking thing you ever heard or whip an acoustic guitar and writing some of the prettiest songs ever. He was a master at production and helped produce the majority of their albums. Please see "Stairway to Heaven", "When the Levee Breaks" and "In My Time of Dying" for a combination of his talents.

Robert Plant- Plant was the youngest member of Led Zeppelin. His vocals were so bluesy at times and then he could sounds like a choir boy when he wanted to. He could give you a deep growl and then he scream his balls off. He could hit the high notes and sustain them.

They have sold out more places, sold more records, had bigger concerts, then anyone on the face of the planet. They were the perfect hard rock band and are the basis for many bands even today. They are seen as untouchable and mysterious because they are.

Don't think that because you heard "Going to California" on your father's radio that you know a damn thing about Led Zeppelin. Go back and listen to all of their music and try and not tell me they were and are amazing.


You fabz, have just become awesome in my eyes. I knew someone was going to say Zeppelin was over rated in this thread, and thankfully, you gave a "tldr" post, before I did. THough, mine would only get that reactoin ;) Oddly enough, I'm listening to Zeppelin right now.

Anyway, I think an overrated band would probably be...Offspring. I don't know how popular they are anymore, but honestly, all their shit has a similar sound. Sure, there are some songs I like from them, just a couple, but i wouldn't go out and buy an album or anything.

I also think Queens of the Stone Age are overrated, especially now. Their newer music is just complete garbage to me, I don't really know what happened. Now, I loved their Songs for the Deaf album, I thought it was really good, but the next one, with teh "little sister" single or whatever, and their newest album, just wasn't good at all. Don't know if it was because Dave Grohl isn't apart of the band anymore, or what.

And I agree, Nickelback is overrated, you can generally tell when one of their songs is starting to play on the radio, all teh beginnings are simliar and whatnot. Though, I think they were okay when they first started out, but their kind of blah now. Just like Puddle of Mudd, their first album was great, second album, not so great.

[Profane Methane]

The Smiths
They are over rated. People think they are so intellectual, but The Smiths are just pretentious shit.
The Cure
I like The Cure, but I just think compared to some other Post Punk bands they aren't that great, also I find them a tad pretentious.

[El Travo]

Even though I really like them I say that Dragonforce is overrated. They are talented and have good songs (yes, alot sound somewhat similar) but people give them too much credit which makes them overrated. Since GH3 they are only known for Through the Fire and Flames anyways so that song is way too overrated also.

Tokio Hotel, some of you may not of heard of them because I think they are German but they are so bad. The music sounds horrible, the singer looks like a girl but they still get alot (I mean ALOT) more credit then they deserve. A couple people I know are all like "omg Tokio Hotel" and it pisses me off.

[Jiggz]

The Beatles. Seriously, almost every white person I know loves them. I have several friends who are now going through Beatles phases because of that Across The Universe movie. I just don't get it. Sure some songs are catchy, and they dissed Jesus, but so what?


Word! Why is it that when I tell people I hate the Beatles music they get all uppity? Ok, sure, they did a lot for music as an industry, but for fucks sake there is nothing alltogether monumentus about their goddamn music!

And InFlames, as an example of this melodic death metal fad. Ok, sure playing the guitar that fast is considered talent, but that doesn't damn well mean it's good to listen to!!! Isn't that what music is about, good listening? Not some fucking distorted screeching sound, then fanboys saying, "wow, that's technically AWESUM!", despite sounding like a guitar being put through a wood chipper while still plugged in. And not to mention the vocals, incoherent, screaming, and all the fanboys attribute some sort of intepretive value to this nonsensical drivel. C'mon, get over it for fucks sake!

[Boof]

2pac had a whole mess of crap repetitive songs and he never released an album that was good from beginning to end. Also the posthumous albums released by 2pac are horrendous with many songs that 2pac himself probably wouldn't have released.


THANK YOU!

People seem to think that Tupac was some kind of Godly, founding father of hip hop, which is rubbish. I'll admit that 'Pac was a pioneer of "Gangsta" rap, but he is NOT the God of the microphone that the new school thinks he is (I could rant on about how gullable and ignorant i think his "die hard" fans are, but thats a story for another day).

His actual lyrical ability was ALWAYS mediocre at best. Hit 'Em Up and Changes were great, but thats about it. About 99% of his songs had the same rhyme scheme and "message" in them, and i just find it repetitive and boring. Unless your 14 years old, Tupac's popularity is beyond me. Hell, even in Brenda Got A Baby he gave the same material from all his other work.

I will admit though, that his flow was pretty good. He had a nice way of stringing his words together, but his inversatility just got annoying after a while.

I really wish people knew how stupid they look when they talk up Tupac.

[timbot]

Word! Why is it that when I tell people I hate the Beatles music they get all uppity? Ok, sure, they did a lot for music as an industry, but for fucks sake there is nothing alltogether monumentus about their goddamn music!


Seriously? Now, I'm not a huge Beatles fan. It annoys me when people piss all over themselves in excitement over anything Beatles related. But nothing momentous? (I assume you meant momentous, since monumentus isn't a word. Or did you mean monumental? Hell, maybe I should ditch my thoughts on the Beatles and tell you to work on your vocabulary, because alltogether isn't a word either.) How do suppose they did so much for the music industry if their music isn't that good? Did so many artists choose the Beatles as an inspiration for no reason?
I'm not educated too well in the technical aspects of music. But, when I hear The Beatles, they sound pretty good to me. Not my favorite band, but damn good. I think you're knocking them down a bit too much.

[fabz]

I'm a huge Beatles fan. I've listened to all of their stuff and I think they're over rated. They played some really great songs and wrote a lot of great songs, but for people to cum all over them is a bit excessive.
They have a lot of really simple songs with simple messages and simple themes.

But there are just some die hard fans out there that won't take them off the pedestal and that sucks, but whatever.

[John Travolta]

It's agreed: The Beatles suck.

[Spastic]

My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, and Brand New are the worst bands my ears have had an unfortunate run in with. I hear all these people tell me how great each of them are, I really lose faith in the future of music when bands like these are being praised.

[spaj]

"Santana" isn't "arguably the best guitar player out there".

There is no such thing as a true Radiohead fan because they experiment so much it is impossible to consistently like them. If you do, you're probably being delusional because you just respect them as a band so much.

[SLjimbolian]

Amy Winehouse, enough with the dumb broad. I'm sick and tired of hearing about her already.

[Pelican Man]

But nothing momentous? (I assume you meant momentous, since monumentus isn't a word. Or did you mean monumental?

You knew what he meant, this is a music forum, get over it.

Hell, maybe I should ditch my thoughts on the Beatles and tell you to work on your vocabulary, because alltogether isn't a word either.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/altogether?r=75

Close enough. Again, I suggest getting over it.

How do suppose they did so much for the music industry if their music isn't that good?

Their music was catchy, and taking a different twist than things at the time.

I'm not educated too well in the technical aspects of music. But, when I hear The Beatles, they sound pretty good to me. Not my favorite band, but damn good. I think you're knocking them down a bit too much.

Their musicianship was nothing extraordinary in comparison to everything else around at the time. In my opinion, George Harrison was the only one with anything special about his abilities; see the chords used in Michelle as an example. And it wasn't often that Harrison wrote songs that The Beatles used, often it was down to Lennon and McCartney co writing the songs. And hey, they work well together, hence The Beatles' great success.

[Idioteque]

I cannot stand most popular music today, such as Fall Out Boy, Paramore, and whatever other shitty emo bands there are out there. I have no problem with music with lots of emotion, in fact, I really like music that has it. The problem I has is the "emotion" in emo music sounds entirely fake or is shallow suburban teen bitching.

I also have a huge dislike of most rap music, who the fuck cares about your "rags to riches" story about selling drugs and making it rich with songs about...making it rich.

[JonC]

I'm a huge Beatles fan. I've listened to all of their stuff and I think they're over rated. They played some really great songs and wrote a lot of great songs, but for people to cum all over them is a bit excessive.
They have a lot of really simple songs with simple messages and simple themes.

But there are just some die hard fans out there that won't take them off the pedestal and that sucks, but whatever.


Well wait guys, which "era" of the beatles or whatever. I mean, after a while, their music changed and stuff. If I am able to remember correctly it was after they went to India, or somewhere(I can't remember, someone set the record straight please) and became all spiritual or something. Again, my information is a bit hap-harzard, but someone may be able to have a recollection of what I'm speaking of.

Off Topic:

Most fucked up thing happened today. I was going to my local record store because I wanted to get a couple of Zeppelin albums to hear songs I maybe haven't heard before. Well, I walk in and guess what I hear playing on their speakers? Zeppelin, I thought to myself, "Wow, thats odd", well, I buy my cd's and leave.

Now, I'm walking up the street and i realize I'm hungry, so I step in the Qdoba since I was passing(honestly, I hate the place, but it was there). When I walk in, I didn't hear any music playing or something, but when I walk up to the counter and I hear Zeppelin again, I stop and say aloud, "holy shit", and teh guy was like, 'whats wrong?" then I told him about me hearing Zeppelin already.

I guess I done the right thing by buying those albums.


/end off topic.

[Raxo]

I cannot stand most popular music today, such as Fall Out Boy, Paramore, and whatever other shitty emo bands there are out there. I have no problem with music with lots of emotion, in fact, I really like music that has it. The problem I has is the "emotion" in emo music sounds entirely fake or is shallow suburban teen bitching.

I also have a huge dislike of most rap music, who the fuck cares about your "rags to riches" story about selling drugs and making it rich with songs about...making it rich.

Could you name specific rap artists? I mean not all of them are like that.

I would name an artist like 50 Cent who has used his "I got shot 9 times " story for credibility and about making it from rags to riches. He has no rapping talent but yet he sells like crazy.

[JonC]

yeah I agree, 50 cent does suck. I honestly think Eminem was talented at one point, then he just got somewhat careless it seemed like. I think he got bored with it or something. I think Nelly was okay when he first came out, but then after he came out with that "#1" song, he went downhill. Or maybe I realized he sucked all along, haha.

[littleteapot]

Most Linkin Park songs follow a set pattern, it goes something like this:
- Intro, starts with a quiet half, then breaks into a loud half.
- Verse 1, quiet.
- Chorus, loud.
- Verse 2, quiet.
- Chorus, loud.
- Bridge, I don't quite remember.
- Chorus, loud, though usually has a quiet bit before it this time.

Oh yeah, virtually any gangsta rap artist. I'm tempted to Steve Ballmer the next person who plays that shit in the common room at school.

And that guy who did "Beautiful Girl", stealing the guitar line from "Stand By Me".

[HappyPalooza]

The Beatles are way overrated and too soothing and boring for my taste. Led Zeppelin is good and all, but "Stairway to Heaven" is NOT the greatest rock song of all. Fall Out Boy is just terrible (listen to them live, talentless as hell) and they're one of my least favorite bands.

Also, I like AC/DC. I eat up that cheesy music about sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

[fabz]

Well wait guys, which "era" of the beatles or whatever. I mean, after a while, their music changed and stuff. If I am able to remember correctly it was after they went to India, or somewhere(I can't remember, someone set the record straight please) and became all spiritual or something. Again, my information is a bit hap-harzard, but someone may be able to have a recollection of what I'm speaking of.


The moment when the Beatles changed their outlook on music was after a discussion with Bob Dylan, who implored the Beatles to right more epic music. :science:

[GenericInsanity]

I'd definitely have to agree with Nirvana. They're rather highly overrated. I enjoy their music, but it's not as great as everyone claims it is.

And I'm going to go out on a limb (with possibility of being castrated here) and say The Ramones are overrated. Don't get me wrong, again, I'm an occasional Ramones fan, but musically they're not very complex. They're a very influential band, but the "three chord punk style" is not as amazing as the "Hot Topic" generation claims it to be. In my opinion their songs are not much more than a social movement put to simple words. Which is what they were meant to be. I understand backing the movements that they were attempting to make, but music itself isn't all that spectacular.

[Profane Methane]

I'd definitely have to agree with Nirvana. They're rather highly overrated. I enjoy their music, but it's not as great as everyone claims it is.

And I'm going to go out on a limb (with possibility of being castrated here) and say The Ramones are overrated. Don't get me wrong, again, I'm an occasional Ramones fan, but musically they're not very complex. They're a very influential band, but the "three chord punk style" is not as amazing as the "Hot Topic" generation claims it to be. In my opinion their songs are not much more than a social movement put to simple words. Which is what they were meant to be. I understand backing the movements that they were attempting to make, but music itself isn't all that spectacular.
I hate that ,"the music isn't technical so it mustn't be good". Thats just used by musical elitists because they don't want music for the common man so they can play their three minute solos and get payed copious amounts of money (ie Led Zeppelin and the majority of classic rock)

The Ramones weren't trying to make a movement, they were trying to make music. Movement came way after.

[TheHighwaySong]

yeah I agree, 50 cent does suck. I honestly think Eminem was talented at one point, then he just got somewhat careless it seemed like. I think he got bored with it or something. I think Nelly was okay when he first came out, but then after he came out with that "#1" song, he went downhill. Or maybe I realized he sucked all along, haha.
Quite the contrary I think. Eminem actually started to have feelings so he stopped rapping about killing and raping his mother, taking pills, and killing hookers and started rapping about how he's gonna be there for his daughter or gay things like that. And therefore, at least in my opinion, his newer releases haven't been so good.

[Idioteque]

Could you name specific rap artists? I mean not all of them are like that.

I would name an artist like 50 Cent who has used his "I got shot 9 times " story for credibility and about making it from rags to riches. He has no rapping talent but yet he sells like crazy.

Sorry, I deserve to be called out on that one, let me be more specific:
-Eminem
-50 Cent
-Forget his name, but his symbol is a Snowman
I am probably forgetting a lot of other artists that do this, but there are so many, its depressing.

I actually really do like Rap when its done intelligently and well. Such as Nas and Lupe Fiasco. Unfortunately, the amount of popular rappers out there like that is very low, if you could provide some less famous examples I am sure I would enjoy them.

[MSB]

And I'm going to go out on a limb (with possibility of being castrated here) and say The Ramones are overrated. Don't get me wrong, again, I'm an occasional Ramones fan, but musically they're not very complex. They're a very influential band, but the "three chord punk style" is not as amazing as the "Hot Topic" generation claims it to be. In my opinion their songs are not much more than a social movement put to simple words. Which is what they were meant to be. I understand backing the movements that they were attempting to make, but music itself isn't all that spectacular.

The Ramones just wanted to jam out. What made them so awesome is that they could do such a simple style, make the song ridiculously repetitive ('Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue' only has 4 lines, and is made up of a total of 14 different words :facts:) and catchy, and still sell so many records. Plus, when they came out, there weren't many bands making music like they were. They (combined with the help of a few other bands) are the reason that we listen to the music that we do today. Plus, they were just totally badass.


Edit:
And to stay on topic, I will add that I can NOT stand Rage Against The Machine. His voice is awful and all he does is yell. Their political music is crap, and they burn American flags. Awesome.:blanky:

[Godly]

The Beatles. They're good but come the fuck on. Up off your knees lad, no more sperm to be had.

You're an idiot. The Beatles aren't over rated, they actually are as good as the hype.

Bands that are over rated: Almost everything on much music/MTV nowadays. Nothing mainstream is as good as it was a couple years ago. Examples are: Fall out boy, My chemical romance, Fergie(she was better before, Gwen Stephanie too), Simple plan(fuck they suck) and there are tons more, I'm just too lazy to write them all.

[Troublegum]

Aside from some of the bands mentioned..

Red Hot Chili Peppers. Most of the "fans" wouldn't even recognize the first half of their discography, the music they're praised for is nothing ground-breaking but the part of their discography actually worth listening to is just blown over. Everything since One Hot Minute sounds the fucking same. Sure there's been a few good songs since then, but they made better music as junkies. John Frusciante is a fantastic musician (in his solo work, Ataxia, etc.) and Flea is great bass player but the Chili Peppers just don't cut it for me. I really don't think they deserve as much praise as they get.

Metallica. Do they really have to be brought up EVERY time metal is mentioned? They're not pioneers of thrash (Venom, anyone?) and they're certainly nothing spectacular. There's so many thrash bands who are far more talented. I have no clue how they got to be where they are.

Iron Maiden. They should have stuck with Di'Anno. Killers and the s/t are miles better than any later efforts. Dickinson's voice irritates the crap outta me, it's too over the top, though I do find myself giving a few tracks a listen every do often.

[OddKid506]

Job for a Cowboy. There is nothing appealing about tuning your instruments as low as possible, then beating them shitless whilst some idiot screams into a microphone like he needs an epic shit. But the 'angry, depressed' teens of today lap that shit up because they show 'true emotion'.

Actually, if you're in real need of a good laugh, listen to some of their songs because they're fucking hilarious!

[SLjimbolian]

Job for a Cowboy. There is nothing appealing about tuning your instruments as low as possible, then beating them shitless whilst some idiot screams into a microphone like he needs an epic shit. But the 'angry, depressed' teens of today lap that shit up because they show 'true emotion'.

Actually, if you're in real need of a good laugh, listen to some of their songs because they're fucking hilarious!

Preach on brudda.

Worst metal band ever.

[timbot]

Edit:
And to stay on topic, I will add that I can NOT stand Rage Against The Machine. His voice is awful and all he does is yell. Their political music is crap, and they burn American flags. Awesome.:blanky:

So, you're gonna talk up the Ramones and then bash on Rage because Zack doesn't have a good singing voice? Come on, pick some standards of judgment here. He also does sing, not just yell. Though, he does yell a lot. Also, Tom Morello can play guitar better than any of the Ramones. And what the hell does burning American flags have to do with being a good or bad band?

[Tempest]

So, you're gonna talk up the Ramones and then bash on Rage because Zack doesn't have a good singing voice? Come on, pick some standards of judgment here. He also does sing, not just yell. Though, he does yell a lot. Also, Tom Morello can play guitar better than any of the Ramones. And what the hell does burning American flags have to do with being a good or bad band?

I agree. Wait, no I don't, because this isn't a topic about if a band is good or not, it's a topic about a band you think is overrated for whatever reason. It's not for you to come in and whine because somebody trashed your favoritest band in the whole wide world!!!!

Nickelback. All they do is whine about relationship and personal problems. When I hear one of their songs come on the radio, it's impossible for me to tell if it's a new or old one because they all sound exactly the same.

[JonC]

The moment when the Beatles changed their outlook on music was after a discussion with Bob Dylan, who implored the Beatles to right more epic music. :science:

Really? Well, we know Dylan's song writing is of pure epicness. Now, don't go nuts on me here, Dylan isn't able to sing well, if you catch my drift, but he's talented, very very talented, when it comes to writing songs and such. I mean hell, think of the covers and everything.

Oh and since someone mentioend it, Red Hot Chili Peppers are very overrated! I cannot stand them, all their shit, especially their newer music sounds the same. If you listen to the bass lines, they sound the same. Their older music was better in my opinion, but even at that, I wasn't a huge fan. And Profane, what the fuck is wrong with crazy ass three minute solos? I seriously love them, they're so damn awesome. Sometimes I wish bands nowadays would have 'em(if they could actually play guitar, and if they'd fit). And what's wrong with being technical about certain things? I think you're looking at it at a stupid point of view.

And the Ramones are okay, I mean, they have some good songs, though I haven't heard as many as I'd like. But the songs I have heard from them, are okay, but its the more common ones(I wanna be sedated, blitzreig bop, etc). But they're nothign to pee yourself over, in my opinion.

Also, I think Rage Against the Machine were awesome. Usually, I'm not big on bands who make albums and songs which are 99% of the time political and whatnot, but Rage were actually good. I don't agree with burning the flags and stuff, but I did like their music and whatnot. I hope they come out with a new album. As long as it rocks. Oh and to who mentoined Morello's guitar playing, yes, Morello is able to play guitar better than any of those who were in the Ramones, but you gotta think about the type of music too. Old punk bands like that could get away with power chords and stupid/catchy lyrics with shitty singing. It was just one of those things.

Sorry for the tldr post and how it bounced around the place guys.

[Kenneh]

Preach on brudda.

Worst metal band ever.

Don't you EVER class any of that core bullshit with metal.

[Pelican Man]

Don't you EVER class any of that core bullshit with metal.

Oh fuck off, don't be such a music elitist. They're a branch of metal, get the fuck over it.

[haza]

Amy Winehouse....since when did she become so popular!

[MSB]

So, you're gonna talk up the Ramones and then bash on Rage because Zack doesn't have a good singing voice? Come on, pick some standards of judgment here. He also does sing, not just yell. Though, he does yell a lot. Also, Tom Morello can play guitar better than any of the Ramones. And what the hell does burning American flags have to do with being a good or bad band?

I only 'talked up' the Ramones because GenericInsanity said that s/he didn't really get why they're so popular. I was trying to give some insight on why I think they're so great. I certainly wasn't pissed off because s/he named one of my favorite bands.

Oh boo hoo, I seem to have trashed your favorite band. Get over it. Just because I stated why I don't like them, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. A kid I dated thought they were the greatest band ever, and I told him I think they suck ass. We still got along just fine.

Burning American Flags has a lot to do with it. A band that's from Cali, burns their own national flag, hates on everything american, and still resides here? If they don't like it, I'm sure they have enough money to move to another country, because we certainly don't need that trash here.

Oh, and did I mention they just plain suck? In my opinion, of course.

[timbot]

I'm not pissed because you talked bad about a band I like. I'm not pissed at all. You don't have to like them. I didn't say it was the end of the world. I just stated why your argument doesn't make much sense.
Also, don't get all pissy and patriotic on me. Again, burning American flags has nothing to do with whether their music is good or bad.
And, "they just plain suck" isn't even a point. It's an opinion without reason.

[MSB]

I'm not pissed because you talked bad about a band I like. I'm not pissed at all. You don't have to like them. I didn't say it was the end of the world. I just stated why your argument doesn't make much sense.
Also, don't get all pissy and patriotic on me. Again, burning American flags has nothing to do with whether their music is good or bad.
And, "they just plain suck" isn't even a point. It's an opinion without reason.

I already stated why I don't like them. I think they make really shitty music. Every song I've heard by them is the lead singer yelling, with a mess of a band behind him. In my opinion, I think they're overrated. I don't think they deserve any amount of the fame they're getting.

I'm not one to be super patriotic, but I do respect the country that I live in. Burning flags is a big no-no in my book. It does have a lot to do with their music, seeing as they've done it at their shows. How can someone view them as a great band, or even idolize them, when all they do is hate on their own?

[Allen]

Hey guys, this is a "Who's Overrated?" thread. Not a "Who do you dislike and for what reasons?" thread. Someone mentioned Dream Theatre. If I went up to any random person on the street and asked them what they thought about Dream Theatre, there's a 99.9% chance they would reply, "Who the fuck is Dream Theatre?" Same with In Flames. Just because you know a group of people that likes them for dumb reasons and you don't doesn't make them overrated.

[spaj]

James Blunt.

The Chemical Brothers.

Bloc Party.

[Triple J]

I really do not see what everyone sees in Jay-Z. I just hate his voice and his everything. I prefer Soulja Boy to his over-confident ear-hurting shit.

[Wackiest]

The Arctic Monkeys

They just plain suck. Their songs sound the same and well, they suck.
Same could also be said for all these other 'indie' bands that keep springing up. Such as The Klaxons, The Feeling, The Enemy... etc

[breakwings]

The Arctic Monkeys

They just plain suck. Their songs sound the same and well, they suck.
etc


No. The Arctic Monkeys are amasing. There drum beats are originally, fast and very skilled. There guitar riffs are catchy, and the lyrics actually mean something. And he even has a good singing voice, which is hard for anyone these days.

[Sirnogbert]

No. The Arctic Monkeys are amasing. There drum beats are originally, fast and very skilled. There guitar riffs are catchy, and the lyrics actually mean something. And he even has a good singing voice, which is hard for anyone these days.

Whatever his name is from The Arctic Monkeys has one of THE worst voices I've heard in popular music in a long time. That incredibly strong accent makes it even more irritating, and I cannot stand it. They're definitely one of the most overrated bands of the moment. That said, a lot of people that I know who used to like them are starting to dislike the fact that all thir songs sound the same, so I dunno whether their popularity will last.

[Random_Hero]

How many times must it be said that this is about bands and/or solo artists beign over rated. NOT who you like and dislike.

[Idioteque]

Its telling that this thread has more pages then the Underrated Bands thread, with all these bands being over-hyped, they overshadow the more talented bands.

Also, a band that I've heard about an obnoxious number of times as the "saviour" of indie music is Vampire Weekend. They are a band I happen to enjoy a lot, but the number of times I've heard them referenced recently is obscene.

[Pelican Man]

No. The Arctic Monkeys are amasing. There drum beats are originally, fast and very skilled. There guitar riffs are catchy, and the lyrics actually mean something. And he even has a good singing voice, which is hard for anyone these days.

They're not worth the hype they're given, thus, overrated. End of.

[HappinessMan]

Bloc Party.

Oh my God I love you! I hate this band, because of all the hype.

Linkin Park. Back in the day (Middle School) I bought Meteora. I heard their new album and my fucking jaw dropped. What is this shit!?

Metallica. Do they really have to be brought up EVERY time metal is mentioned? They're not pioneers of thrash (Venom, anyone?) and they're certainly nothing spectacular. There's so many thrash bands who are far more talented. I have no clue how they got to be where they are.

I'm not going to tackle your argument about Iron Maiden, because I don't entirely follow the band. But Metallica. Nothing Spectacular? Metallica got to where they are with their amazing Bass, Drums and Guitar. I'm not too much of a fan of vocals, but its a moot point. Please add more to your argument, because I ain't got nothing to work with here.

[Troublegum]

I'm not going to tackle your argument about Iron Maiden, because I don't entirely follow the band. But Metallica. Nothing Spectacular? Metallica got to where they are with their amazing Bass, Drums and Guitar. I'm not too much of a fan of vocals, but its a moot point. Please add more to your argument, because I ain't got nothing to work with here.

Reading back my post, it sounds a bit exaggerated. I don't think they're untalented, but the music doesn't live up to the hype.
What I meant with "how they got to be where they are" was that they're recognized by everyone, whether they listen to metal or not. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say "I don't really listen to metal, but I like Metallica." I don't understand why they've become some sort of symbol for the entire metal genre when to me they're just another thrash band.

[timbot]

I already stated why I don't like them. I think they make really shitty music. Every song I've heard by them is the lead singer yelling, with a mess of a band behind him. In my opinion, I think they're overrated. I don't think they deserve any amount of the fame they're getting.

I'm not one to be super patriotic, but I do respect the country that I live in. Burning flags is a big no-no in my book. It does have a lot to do with their music, seeing as they've done it at their shows. How can someone view them as a great band, or even idolize them, when all they do is hate on their own?

To try to stick within the topic so people don't get pissed. They're not overrated, because they are a talented band. Not the best band ever, but a good one. And only crazy fans would call them the best band ever. I think the general feel for them was that they were pretty damn good. They had a lot of energy, a talented and really inventive guitar player, and a political message that lots of people liked. Where they are rated overall is about right.

And burning flags still has nothing to do with one's talent as a musician. It makes them neither better, nor worse as musicians.

[Riddlebox]

Soulja Boy- Oh my God. He has no talent, and he can't even speak English. Seriously, the only reason anyone listens to this retard is because the majority of people are. At our dance the other night, they played his most recent song like 7 or 8 times. It was ridiculous. If I hadn't gone up there and requested some DOOM I would have lost my ever-fucking mind.

Dragonforce- I agree with most of whats been said about these guys so far, and I'd like to add that when I saw them live, they were terrible. The drummer and bass player were in time, but Herman and the singer didn't seem to know what the hell was going on. Also, the guitars were out of tune. Not to mention, every song has pretty much the same theme of "glory,power,fire,or victory". That's fucking ridiculous.

Nickelback- Arghhhhhhhhhhhughugh. Please, no more!

Hinder- Why was this band popular? Because the Singer had game. That's fucking it. Thankfully, I rarely ever heard themon the radio, only when that one song was requested.

Linkin Park- Every song and every album is pretty much set up the same way, there's going to be a couple of radio songs, some rap, and then filler shit. I read somewhere, that their latest album sold massive amounts of copies. What? SOLD? I could understand maybe downloading their stuff to see if they were any good, but c'mon, why would you buy music from these guys but steal from good artists? Besides that I have no problem with them, in fact I still sometimes listen to Hybrid Theory.

Rage Against the Machine- I enjoy them occasionally, but the only place your going to hear music that is more repetitive is in a dance club or a rave. There's no Christing excuse for that.

AC/DC: They are NOT a clothing company! Don't wear an AC/DC sweatshirt if you have no idea who they are! That's no reason to hate the band though, I just don't see them as talented in any way. The way I see it, there's great bands with lots of potential that never get anywhere, and then there's bands like AC/DC who somehow became sensations. Oh well, I still like Australia.

There's probably more I could complain about, but I don't want to give you more to disagree with me on.

[JonC]

Amy Winehouse....since when did she become so popular!

She's, alright, I haven't heard hardly any of her songs. But the one song of hers I heard(Rehab?) is okay. Something about how it sounds and her singing makes it tolerable. But I doubt I'd go out and buy her album. But hey, she did win a grammy recently.

[HappinessMan]

Reading back my post, it sounds a bit exaggerated. I don't think they're untalented, but the music doesn't live up to the hype.
What I meant with "how they got to be where they are" was that they're recognized by everyone, whether they listen to metal or not. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say "I don't really listen to metal, but I like Metallica." I don't understand why they've become some sort of symbol for the entire metal genre when to me they're just another thrash band.

Metallica is thrash metal. You could say its an opening into metal, for the masses. But usually the people who say "I don't like Metal, but I like Metallica!" are complete idiots, because Metallica is a form of metal.

[Jiggz]

Seriously? Now, I'm not a huge Beatles fan. It annoys me when people piss all over themselves in excitement over anything Beatles related. But nothing momentous? (I assume you meant momentous, since monumentus isn't a word. Or did you mean monumental? Hell, maybe I should ditch my thoughts on the Beatles and tell you to work on your vocabulary, because alltogether isn't a word either.) How do suppose they did so much for the music industry if their music isn't that good? Did so many artists choose the Beatles as an inspiration for no reason?
I'm not educated too well in the technical aspects of music. But, when I hear The Beatles, they sound pretty good to me. Not my favorite band, but damn good. I think you're knocking them down a bit too much.

You need to do two things, firstly, take this thread a little less seriously, and secondly, stop trying to be so confrontational.

"But, when I hear The Beatles, they sound pretty good to me."

Well, they don't sound all that good to me. Subjective opinion. Arguing this would be pointless, but perhaps in your endeavour to point out my typo's you overlooked this blatant fact.

The Beatles, as a band were pivotal in the creation of the sort of mainstream adoration we now know so well in all pop music today. They were pop stars. One of the firsts in my opinion.

Now, you could peruse my post for grammatical errors, you could argue your point of view, or, you could shut up and accept this as an expression of my point of view. One that won't change, regardless of what you have to say. Mmkay.

[Tempest]

To try to stick within the topic so people don't get pissed.

You've made four posts in this thread and STILL failed to do what the entire point of the thread is, to state over-rated bands or artists. I think you're the one who needs to stick within the topic. :ahe:

[breakwings]

They're not worth the hype they're given, thus, overrated. End of.

Fair enough, I agree with that.


A band that has to be said as overrated is Fall Out Boy? I think the only reason they got anywhere is because the millions of girls went a bit mad for Pete Wentz

[Iiro]

Lmao at some of these kids saying Beatles. They were incredibly talented musicians who wrote amazing music. Just because you don't like some of the songs you've heard from them doesn't mean that it's fair to call them overrated, it's just that your taste in music SUCKS.

[Jiggz]

Lmao at some of these kids saying Beatles. They were incredibly talented musicians who wrote amazing music. Just because you don't like some of the songs you've heard from them doesn't mean that it's fair to call them overrated, it's just that your taste in music SUCKS.

Incorrect. To me, your taste in music sucks. And if you argue the popularity root, I urge you to reconsider this in light of the popularity of shit music like that of Britney Spears and Justin Idiot. In other words, popularity doesn't mean it's not shit. It just means there are more people who have shit taste in music.

[exetra]

The Doors. How the fuck did such mindless, meandering zombie noise interrupted by odd bouts of decidedly mediocre rock and roll become so popular? Jim Morrison died, that's how.

While we're on the subject of dead musicians: Jimi Hendrix wasn't really a great guitar player, guys. He was innovative in his tone (namely the wah-wah sound and multi tap delays and what have you) but his playing seriously wasn't that amazing.

[Tempest]

The Doors. How the fuck did such mindless, meandering zombie noise interrupted by odd bouts of decidedly mediocre rock and roll become so popular? Jim Morrison died, that's how.

While we're on the subject of dead musicians: Jimi Hendrix wasn't really a great guitar player, guys. He was innovative in his tone (namely the wah-wah sound and multi tap delays and what have you) but his playing seriously wasn't that amazing.

Oh but Mr. exetra he played a right-handed guitar left-handed! YOU BETTER GIVE HIM THE RESPECT HE DESERVES!!! :mad:

I agree, by the way. The sound may have been innovative, but the actual playing honestly WASN'T, and I'd even call it a step BACK from such guitarists as Jerry Garcia, as opposed to forward.

[Jiggz]

The purpose of this thread is becoming redundant. Is it a debate on what music we perceive to be over-rated, or a circle jerk where we all agree on music that is over-rated?

I think to alleviate unnecessary debate we must realise that the impact certain artists had is undeniable, and thus respect is obligatory, but the actual music they made is either enjoyed or disliked subjectively, and arguing this would be the same as arguing if Wham! or Boys II Men is better. I mean, some of the bands I consider the best in the world have a very limited following. And as I pointed out in a previous post, popularity does not necessitate superiority.

Failing to see this distinction will lead to a breeding ground for argumentative trolls like timbot.

[Kenneh]

Oh fuck off, don't be such a music elitist. They're a branch of metal, get the fuck over it.

Hey guess what core has its roots in punk. You don't see any fucking breakdowns in metal, or none of that repetitive chord progression shit in metal. You actually hear MELODY and GUITAR SOLOS.

[exetra]

Kenneh, I've never heard a melody or guitar solo in a Cannibal Corpse song. So you must think they're core, then?

Pfft. Core has been influenced heavily by metal regardless of where it has its roots. Don't be such an elitist metalfag :indiff:

[Kenneh]

Kenneh, I've never heard a melody or guitar solo in a Cannibal Corpse song. So you must think they're core, then?

Pfft. Core has been influenced heavily by metal regardless of where it has its roots. Don't be such an elitist metalfag :indiff:

Cannibal corpse doesn't play muted powerchords over a halftime tempo :indiff:


(oh, and there are solos, Gallery of Suicide for example)

[exetra]

Hey there's another overrated band. The whole concept of the band Cannibal Corpse and brutal death metal seems like a joke to me ("Oh hey guys lets make an intentionally band and sing about raping dead children and shit it'll be really funny"). Next thing you know thousands of people take the joke seriously and think its really good.

[Iiro]

Incorrect. To me, your taste in music sucks. And if you argue the popularity root, I urge you to reconsider this in light of the popularity of shit music like that of Britney Spears and Justin Idiot. In other words, popularity doesn't mean it's not shit. It just means there are more people who have shit taste in music.
I'm not taking the popularity root, I'm saying that you're a retard who doesn't understand good music.

[Exodus]

I have to say, sublime. They made no real impact on music today, it's not like they were the first to do what they did either. Plus they did an ungodly amount of cover songs.

[breakwings]

Woah, I think this post might have got a bit to serious?
Also, arn't over-rated bands popular when really they shouldn't be? As far as I know metal (and all varients) are not to popular now?

[fabz]

The purpose of this thread is becoming redundant. .


And that's why it's over.