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Ok so I'm trying to expand my musical preferences. And I've turned back to metal.
When I was younger, nu metal was the hot shit. However, I've found that today, most nu metal bands have either disbanded or changed their style slightly.
So educate me, is nu metal dead? Is it lame to listen to nu metal? Are there any worthwhile nu metal bands still around?
Ziggy St. Valentine
03-13-2008, 4:51 AM
Yeah it's pretty much dead now. Korn still tour occasionally though, as do Disturbed, I saw them live together back in '06. Other than that the only nu-metal band I can think of that's still around is Slipknot. I think Papa Roach are still around, not sure though and they've changed their style alot. Limp Bizkit are long time dead. I don't know any other nu-metal bands so I can't help you there.
EDIT: yes it is considered lame to listen to nu-metal now.
Profane Methane
03-13-2008, 5:20 AM
Hopefully its dead or else I will have to shoot myself.
Really? So I suppose it's a bad thing that I enjoy it?
Korn played a gig in Lisbon last month in the same place where they once, many years ago, managed to cram 16000 fans. That number dwindled to less than 5000.
I think it has had better days.
Thank God for that.
Kenneh
03-13-2008, 7:41 AM
Disturbed is one of the only good nu-metal bands around.
ilovebrownies
03-13-2008, 7:59 AM
I've never been a huge fan of nu-metal myself, but from what I've heard, Korn are kind of struggling, and they're the definition of nu-metal in my opinion.
Is it lame to listen to nu metal?
The only people who listen to nu-metal where I live, are emo kids, so yeah.
But wouldn't that make them nu metal kids?
Oh my gosh!! Cross genre music tastes! What will we do?! It's times like this that I wonder just how beneficial this whole convoluted categorisation of music really is.
Quadros
03-13-2008, 1:34 PM
Hey I still listen to a bit of nu-metal every now and then, but as a movement it's pretty much died. Your best bet would be to expand on the choice as it was six years ago, go for bands like Spineshank and Static X.
Profane Methane
03-13-2008, 3:12 PM
Really? So I suppose it's a bad thing that I enjoy it?
I don't care if you listen to it. I just hate Nu Metal, whether you like it or not doesn't bother me.
Idioteque
03-13-2008, 7:38 PM
Nu-metal isn't necessarily bad, some of the bands are decent, and the influences in Metal music were heavy.
Everyone just immediately thinks of Limp Biskit and Korn, who cast a bad shadow over the rest over the genre.
What is the actual problem with nu metal though?
I've heard some say it's a bastardization of the metal genre. But, isn't it just an off-shoot? Why isn't melodic death metal seen as a bastardization? Or one of the many other off-shoots to metal.
Pelican Man
03-14-2008, 2:57 AM
Nu-Metal is seen as the genre of Metal that's made friendly for the public. So it's hated by "true Metal fans" because it's seen as a sellout genre.
I, personally, enjoy Nu-Metal, as I do Hardcore and Metalcore, which are also labeled similarly.
As already mentioned, Disturbed, Static-X and Spineshank are bands to look into. Korn's newest stuff is pretty crappy. Disturbed's "Believe" and Spineshank's "Self-Destructive Pattern" are both decent albums. I love Spineshank, and would recommend "Forgotten" to see what they're like, and if you can find them, Consumed and Stillborn as well.
Aren't Static-X industrial metal?
Pelican Man
03-14-2008, 5:45 AM
Same shit. Industrial Metal's a bullshit genre :mad:
What is the actual problem with nu metal though?
I've heard some say it's a bastardization of the metal genre. But, isn't it just an off-shoot? Why isn't melodic death metal seen as a bastardization? Or one of the many other off-shoots to metal.
It's just bad music. And you're way off.
It's just bad music. And you're way off.
Unfounded statements just make you look stupid. Elaborate please, or I'll resign myself to your ignorance.
ericssin
03-14-2008, 10:02 AM
I never liked Nu metal, becasue it was too close, maybe inside, the pre-made bands stream . In my opinion most of them look and sound the same, another factor should be that the kind of music was/is directed to nowadays young people.
In any case I still hate them and feel happy Nu metal is dying.
Assassin
03-14-2008, 11:28 AM
Nu-Metal fucking sucks and has never been good.
Audioslave
03-14-2008, 1:30 PM
Ask Fred Durst.
Profane Methane
03-14-2008, 3:33 PM
Nu-Metal is seen as the genre of Metal that's made friendly for the public. So it's hated by "true Metal fans" because it's seen as a sellout genre.
I, personally, enjoy Nu-Metal, as I do Hardcore and Metalcore, which are also labeled similarly.
As already mentioned, Disturbed, Static-X and Spineshank are bands to look into. Korn's newest stuff is pretty crappy. Disturbed's "Believe" and Spineshank's "Self-Destructive Pattern" are both decent albums. I love Spineshank, and would recommend "Forgotten" to see what they're like, and if you can find them, Consumed and Stillborn as well.
I'm not a "true metal head". The genre just sounds like shit. Every band I've heard from it I just don't like the sound off.
MARWOK
03-14-2008, 7:00 PM
I hate Nu metal, But I would say the two bands that were in that loop kindof that are good and are still doing well today would be the Deftones and Will Haven
so you should check them out. they have a different taste to them, more heavy..just plain better.
the classic description of nU metal is "Bu da-da-da dow-du-dow-du-dow boooow" and the sing screams "MUY" and"CHUMMOWN" alot
buckfan
03-14-2008, 7:05 PM
I think it was a phase for America, more like an excuse to like shitty "hard" rock.
And its just about gone so fingers crossed.Another year or so and it'll be wiped out.
Ghoulz
03-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Nu Metal Sucks.Truth
reigninblood666
03-14-2008, 10:41 PM
I personally think that it is past dead. I admit that I I am a fan of a FEW bands that would be considered nu-metal such as korn, slipknot, disturbed, but in my opinion the quality of the genre has LARGELY dropped since 2000. And about being ashamed of listening to a certain kind of music I have to say that you should never listen to music depending on whether it is cool or not
Ghoulz
03-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Listen to Slayer. Posers
\m/\m/
Unfounded statements just make you look stupid. Elaborate please, or I'll resign myself to your ignorance.
There's times in life when you just have to take my word for it.
Mirrorman
03-15-2008, 7:36 AM
Disturbed is good, also according to my Winamp, Coal Chamber is Nu-Metal, can't be sure of that tho.
emokid72
03-15-2008, 6:59 PM
Slipknot and Deftones are amazing, though they are the exception.
When it comes to music, don't just put yourself to you style, cause in this day and age, there is way too many sub-genre shit-types. I mean you can have some core of favorites, but don't let it define you. I listen to alot of Mathcore, Pop-Punk, and Experimental, though I listen to alot of other stuff that live on my CD rack (and I mean a real CD rack).
If Nu-metal still interests you, by all means, listen to it. There wouldn't be too much variety in it though.
Pelican Man
03-15-2008, 8:18 PM
(and I mean a real CD rack)
Whoa, you have a REAL CD rack?! Do tell us more!
Ghoulz
03-15-2008, 10:37 PM
Double post. fuck
Ghoulz
03-15-2008, 10:37 PM
A real CD rack? Oh my jah. thats like before the Interwebz.
*Bow*
PS. Ikea?
TheHighwaySong
03-15-2008, 11:08 PM
Industiral Metal is a genre itself? I thought we just called it Industrial..
I don't think Static-X is ANYWHERE near Nu-Metal. And yes Coal Chamber was straight up Nu-Metal in my opinion.
Slipknot can't really be considered Nu-Metal because Corey doesn't do rap-style vocals. Unless he still did it on Vol 3. I didn't really listen to it too much, because I thought it was a bad album.
As for Nu-Metal being dead, I believe it is. As far as I know, Nu-Metal was the fusion of metal with rap elements such as vocals and turntables. Limp Bizkit is pretty much turning to shit since Wes Borland (smart) doesn't really want to do anything and keeps changing his mind. Papa Roach has veered into a Hard Rock approach. Coal Chamber broke up and Dez created DevilDriver (awesome) I don't see a revival anytime soon really.
Ghoulz
03-15-2008, 11:37 PM
If people like a certain type of music i'm pretty sure they should be allowed to listen to it. No matter how shitty it is, if someone likes it than thats cool for them, just plug in your headphones so i don't have to listen to it.
Pelican Man
03-17-2008, 1:38 AM
I only just realized, one of my favourite bands, Taproot, is classed as Nu Metal. I think of them as just Heavy Rock, but now that I think about it, yeah, they're probably closer to Nu Metal.
Definitely give them a listen, Jiggzy. I'd recommend Calling and Birthday, to see if you'll like them.
There's times in life when you just have to take my word for it.
Yes, because your ignorance has you convinced your opinion actualy matters.
I only just realized, one of my favourite bands, Taproot, is classed as Nu Metal. I think of them as just Heavy Rock, but now that I think about it, yeah, they're probably closer to Nu Metal.
Definitely give them a listen, Jiggzy. I'd recommend Calling and Birthday, to see if you'll like them.
I have. As well as Soulfly - who as far as I can tell are grouped in the same genre. Pretty cool.
I also like a bit of Dry Kill Logic, but it does get a little screamo after a while.
And one last thing kids, I recommend you take a close look at why you don't listen to a certain type of music. Is it because of the silly categorization ascribed to it?
In which case, in your attempt at being free and an individual, aren't you just following the crowd?
As for Nu-Metal being dead, I believe it is. As far as I know, Nu-Metal was the fusion of metal with rap elements such as vocals and turntables.
Korn never had that. One common characteristic is the sludgy, downtuned sound of the guitars (oh those god-awful Ibanez 7-string guitars :argh:).
Pelican Man
03-17-2008, 7:12 AM
I have. As well as Soulfly - who as far as I can tell are grouped in the same genre. Pretty cool.
Yeah, as far as I had been told, Taproot and Soulfly were much in the same, but I love all of Taproot's songs and only like one or two by Soulfly.
I also like a bit of Dry Kill Logic, but it does get a little screamo after a while.
I'll have to give them a listen.
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SLjimbolian
03-23-2008, 8:10 PM
It's not completely dead, but it's sure as hell not as appealing as it was from 1999 to 2003. Nu-metal began to drop off the radar when the emo/screamo/metalcore genre went into full force in 2004/2005.
Pieman
03-24-2008, 2:24 AM
A real CD rack? Oh my jah. thats like before the Interwebz.
*Bow*
PS. Ikea?
Why the fuck do you persist on posting? All you do is prove that your an idiot who thinks your internet savvy because you've read a few Encyclopedia Dramatica articles since Anonymous became popular.
Posers
Irony is so sweet when it comes from wannabe metalhead/Btard fags.
Sorry for going off topic but this guy really pisses me off.
On topic: Nu Metal was a passing phase, sadly unlike r'n'b. Today the phase is emo (Or at least what MTV calls emo) and Hip Hop rock (Or at least what MTV calls emo). Listen to them all you want, it was a great genre in its day, but don't start singing it in public.
Profane Methane
03-24-2008, 2:59 AM
Nu metal has to move over for the new most hated hybrid genre, metalcore.
xkittenxsocksx
03-24-2008, 8:48 AM
Slipknot are my life, HAI, when I first listened to them I thought this is not a kind of knot, but a totally awesome, very good amazing American band. They invented adding club music to metal because they have a man playing turntables with them. It is very innovative and good vision! Totally awesome! It is so also because they seem to be the heralds of metal music, spreading it among people who would normally never listen to metal because they listen to other genres. And thus they have a chance to listen to good music and true beauty.
Mirrorman
03-24-2008, 3:00 PM
Dry Kill Logic and Soulfly are both good, I also found Nonpoint as Nu-Metal in my collection.
I love Nonpoint. What exactly is metalcore?
Nu-metal isn't dead, there are still bands that bring out new albums, and many people who claim they are into "metal" mostly know nu-metal. But it is becoming less popular now the emo/screamo scene is all the rage. I don't care for either of them, I'll keep listening to real metal.
@ Jiggz: Metalcore is a mixture of metal and hardcore, which actually says it's a little bit harder than what we know now, most of the metalcore bands have screams and grunts in them, sometimes with clean singing (I.E. Killswitch Engage). I kinda like metalcore, though I prefer deathcore (metalcore that is harder and more grunts than screams/clean singing)
xkittenxsocksx
03-25-2008, 12:16 PM
Nu-metal isn't dead, there are still bands that bring out new albums, and many people who claim they are into "metal" mostly know nu-metal. But it is becoming less popular now the emo/screamo scene is all the rage. I don't care for either of them, I'll keep listening to real metal.
Um you're wrong.
There were emo/screamo bands around the same time black metal started.
Bar the scene kids who make shitty hardcore nowadays, who say they sight the likes of Moss Icon as a primary influence; emo/screamo is long gone.
When you said I'll keep listening to real metal....
you didn't mean nu-metal did you?
dodzy_50
03-27-2008, 4:09 AM
thrash metal and viking metal for the win!!! (yes, I am a scandinavian)
Anyway, I do like some nu-metal bands yet, though I don't listen to them often.
Considering emo/screamo then I don't get it, at all.
xkittenxsocksx
03-27-2008, 7:10 AM
Considering emo/screamo then I don't get it, at all.
Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo) you go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo) c=
Ok, before this spirals out of control into a "no your favourite music genre is responsible for emo" argument, let me interject a bit of a distraction.
Anybody got a list of (former) nu-metal bands that aren't entirely shit. And as someone who unashamedly enjoys nu-metal, has anyone got recommendations of off-shoots or progressions from this genre that I might enjoy?
I can't stand this screaming bullshit. It's cool in small doses, but I think there is nothing talented about screaming into a microphone like a pubescent pimple head whose mommy just grounded him and took his allowance away...
TheHighwaySong
03-27-2008, 1:50 PM
Deftones first album, Adrenaline, has some obvious Nu-Metal influences, even though they did not officially add their sampler/DJ until the 3rd or so album. 7 Words hits you pretty heavily, but the verse after the bridge is nothing less of a rap. They can be considered former nu-metal band because now their focus is more on ambient electronics than hip hop beats, (although they dwelve in the occasional "trip-hop", whatever that is.)
In short, check out Deftones - Adrenaline.
Other than that album, as well as Soulfly's first album, I can't think of any good nu-metal really. At least nothing significant that sticks out in my head like those two.
Pelican Man
03-27-2008, 7:50 PM
Deftones first album, Adrenaline, has some obvious Nu-Metal influences, even though they did not add their sampler until the 3rd or so album. 7 Words hits you pretty heavily, but the verse after the bridge is nothing less than a rap. They can be considered former nu-metal band because now their focus is more on ambient electronics than hip hop beats, (although they dwelve in the occasional "trip-hop", whatever that is.)
In short, check out Deftones - Adrenaline.
I hate most of Deftones' songs, but I absolutely love a select few. Which annoys me because I have 3 of their albums. Adrenaline's probably the one where I can enjoy a good portion of the songs, my favourite being Engine No. 9.
I've also got three Deftones albums, and I also only like a select few songs. I just wish they'd release an album that I liked from beginning to end. They get a little too screamo dor my liking.
Assassin
03-28-2008, 5:53 AM
Check out the early Mudvayne, not the new gay shit
Bleeding_Llama
03-28-2008, 1:34 PM
Cant you listen to what you want as appose to what your "supposed" to?
stagger_lee
03-28-2008, 3:00 PM
I hope so. Nu metal sucked. A lot. Except for Deftones, of course, because Chino would actually sing.
devilsgunner
03-29-2008, 2:13 AM
Dying? Yes.
Dead? Not just yet.
The odd nu metal band is still creating music, though most of it crap. I still like Disturbed, their new stuff sounds pretty good.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 6:49 AM
I love disturbed, even though I just started to lsiten to them last year. But what is with all this putting metal into different generes? If you stick to one genere it gets boring, spead out a little and widen your tastes. Like I've heard people call bands like Avenged Sevenfold Metalcore, Metal, Heavy Metal, Nu-Metal and gaycore. Now I don't care what they fit into, I like them.
Then if we go to bands like Amon Amarth and the such, no-one can really tell. (No-one that I've asked anyway.) And what about Parkway Drive? What do thet 'classify' as?
I don't know about you, but I have a headache now, this is confusing...
ON topic: You could probably find some band somwhere that's underground and all. Or try and start your own, maybe it won't be dead then.
tunacake
03-29-2008, 10:30 AM
I'm so glad nobody mentioned System of a Down in this thread. I've heard people call System nu-metal, and it makes me want to kick kittens.
Pelican Man
03-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I've also got three Deftones albums, and I also only like a select few songs. I just wish they'd release an album that I liked from beginning to end. They get a little too screamo dor my liking.
Yeah, I find that I only really like the songs that I'd already downloaded. When I bought the albums, I didn't gain any new songs to listen to, except the Adrenaline album.
Cant you listen to what you want as appose to what your "supposed" to?
What was that in reference to?
Then if we go to bands like Amon Amarth and the such, no-one can really tell. (No-one that I've asked anyway.) And what about Parkway Drive? What do thet 'classify' as?
Parkway Drive are Metalcore/Metal.
To be completely honest, I believe that metal in general is dead. I am a huge metal fan, but everything that is coming out in the past 3-5 years sounds the same. Yeah, bands sound different, but there's nothing experimental anymore. everyone seems to just stick to the common thread just to be successful.
Pelican Man
04-02-2008, 3:59 AM
To be completely honest, I believe that metal in general is dead. I am a huge metal fan, but everything that is coming out in the past 3-5 years sounds the same. Yeah, bands sound different, but there's nothing experimental anymore. everyone seems to just stick to the common thread just to be successful.
If you believe that, you're not looking hard enough. I'm not that big of a fan of metal, but I do like metal and do still think there are bands who are original and interesting.
If you believe that, you're not looking hard enough. I'm not that big of a fan of metal, but I do like metal and do still think there are bands who are original and interesting.
even still. yeah, bands do new things, but even so, none will change the way music sounds significantly. that is why I believe it is dead. if it wasn't, every few years a band would come around that would change the way things sound.
even still. yeah, bands do new things, but even so, none will change the way music sounds significantly. that is why I believe it is dead. if it wasn't, every few years a band would come around that would change the way things sound.
But surely if a band "significantly" changed the way a genre sounded, they'd be inventing a new genre. So technically, the reason there is no development is because bands must stick to their descriptive genre, or risk losing listenership because of the change in genre?
This whole system is contrived. Especially considering, as a band, you can't incorporate too many styles, regardless of how good it sounds, because the people just don't have the capacity nor the willingness to cope with this.
Liam616
04-07-2008, 7:02 AM
yeah, nu metal is pretty much gone now. although there are a few bands still clinging on but they're not exactly producing the best music are they?
UncleDuck2
04-07-2008, 3:02 PM
I truly hope so!!!
BlackHawK
04-08-2008, 10:13 AM
Nu-metal is better than before =D
Listen to Spineshank, Ill Niño, E.D.C (Espetáculo do Crescimento), Nonpoint and 36 Crazyfists =]
The old school are fucking good, but these new bands are great mainly Ill Niño.
Nu Metal Lives.
Anyone going to Leeds festival this year by the way?
Line up looks amazing!
Metallica, Slipknot, Killers, Tenacious D, Pendulum, Rage Against The Machine, Bloc Party, QOTSA. Looks very good.
BlackHawK
04-08-2008, 10:36 AM
Check out the early Mudvayne, not the new gay shit
Mudvayne is great, but most of their musics are just screams, screams and screams with guitars and drums, if you like Mudvayne you'll like Spineshank (Nu-metal/Industrial)
Pelican Man
04-08-2008, 10:40 AM
Mudvayne is great, but most of their musics are just screams, screams and screams with guitars and drums, if you like Mudvayne you'll like Spineshank (Nu-metal/Industrial)
No, it's not. Mudvayne is HEAVILY bass driven, so you saying 'guitar and drums' is moronic. And it's not all screams either, it's kind of a half mix most of the time.
BlackHawK
04-08-2008, 10:54 AM
some of the music seem not to have compass :S
I like musics like Happy?, Fall Into Sleep, Death Blooms, Choice, Pushing Through and all that you can understand 30% of what their saying
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