Worst song of the year or a new hit? [Archive]

Crabstick

03-14-2008, 4:03 PM

I heard the remix of Beat It done by Fallout Boy and John Mayer earlier today. I didn't think much of it at first, and having gotten home and listened to it I can honestly say I fucking hate it. I couldn't even sit through the song halfway, I think it's just that horrendous. They've taken a damn good pop song and made it into a shitty emo "rock" tune. The worst part is some people I know say it's one of the best covers they've ever heard.

So like in all of life's important issues, I'm gonna to ask a bunch of internet comic fanboys.

Song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=i9HdeoWmMoc#)

Hickabod

03-14-2008, 4:14 PM

I love Fall Out Boy, and I think that track absolutely rocks, but admittedly the Solo sounds butchered

Ghoulz

03-14-2008, 4:31 PM

Fuck this band

Ziggy St. Valentine

03-14-2008, 5:01 PM

Terrible. Just bloody terrible.

Matterialize

03-14-2008, 5:10 PM

It sounds fine to me. :indiff: The only bad thing is that Fall Out Boy's singer has a horrible voice in general.

Boof

03-14-2008, 7:36 PM

Knight of Cydonia

03-14-2008, 7:42 PM

That was terrible. I really hated the singing and that solo was crap.

Soul

03-14-2008, 7:57 PM

Heres the thing that I see when you try to do a cover of a song that came from someone like Michael Jackson it is pretty impossible to even come near his talent because hell he is Michael Jackson the king of pop. Personally the only cover of a Michael Jackson song that i've ever liked is Smooth Criminal by Alien Ant Farm.

Pelican Man

03-14-2008, 8:48 PM

Granted, if you don't like Fall Out Boy, you'll hate this song. Y'know why? Because IT'S A FALL OUT BOY SONG. Fans of FOB would complain if they changed their style just to suit this cover, fans of the original will complain if the cover doesn't pay true to the original.

Really, they're not going to replicate the awesome pop hit that was Beat It, they're putting a new spin on it, and as such it really shouldn't be judged off the original.

Ikin

03-14-2008, 9:20 PM

I don't really hate FOB, but I hated this.

Ghoulz

03-14-2008, 9:37 PM

how can anyone like this band? I just don't get it.wan't a good modern band? Listen to something like Muse that have musical skill.

Android

03-14-2008, 9:46 PM

Mr Anorexia

03-14-2008, 9:47 PM

reigninblood666

03-14-2008, 10:59 PM

how can anyone like this band? I just don't get it.wan't a good modern band? Listen to something like Muse that have musical skill.

So True ghoulz! I'm sorry but I could play any Fall Out Boy riff while I'm asleep. They have no talent whatsoever in my opinion and I think they are only REALLY popular because girls love them because they are sissies, and that guys like it so they can get chicks. I'm NOT making fun of their fans, but seriously this is the worst excuse of a band ever. They murdered the song in my opinion.

Raxo

03-14-2008, 11:54 PM

If you don't like it don't listen to it or pay attention to it. You're not being forced to.
No point ranting about it.

It was an average cover that offered nothing new. It would been a little better with someone else singing.

Ice_Mel

03-15-2008, 12:53 AM

The thing is that a song like Beat It should be covered only if you're going to add a new spin to it.
If you're just going to play it the way it is, it becomes pointless since that song is a pop classic that is just stuck in our heads forever the way it is.

Actually, now that I think about it, what's the point of covering a song if you don't give it some sort of new "flavor"? By the way, this doesn't mean just adding distortion to the guitars.

GCBC

03-15-2008, 3:03 AM

Anyone who says this song its terrible are just Fallout Boy haters. I've never been a fan of theirs, but this song really isnt that bad. The singer is horrible on this song, but that's about it.

They're just paying homage to Michael Jackson, so I don't see why it's such a big deal.

Your response doesn't make sense. "The song isn't bad. The singer is horrible in it." Those two statements totally contradict each other.

Also, I feel like you can't say something is the worst song of the year when there are still 9 months to go in the year. :indiff:

Pingu

03-15-2008, 3:33 AM

Worst song of the year and new hits aren't necessary mutually exclusive.

SWiTCH

03-15-2008, 4:55 AM

The only thing as annoying as this song are people's analytic statements about Fallout Boy's "musical skill" as if they know what the hell makes a good solo or a good vocalist.

Boof

03-15-2008, 6:40 AM

Your response doesn't make sense. "The song isn't bad. The singer is horrible in it." Those two statements totally contradict each other.

They don't completely contradict each other. I was just stating that while the song as a whole wasn't that bad, I didn't like the singing. Just because I think the vocals doesn't make the whole song bad.

reigninblood666

03-15-2008, 9:16 AM

The only thing as annoying as this song are people's analytic statements about Fallout Boy's "musical skill" as if they know what the hell makes a good solo or a good vocalist.

I've been playing guitar for 4 years and i personally thought they made a huge letdown in that area. I'm not a singer but I didn't think he pulled it off. But that's just my opinion

Pelican Man

03-15-2008, 9:29 AM

I've been playing guitar for 4 years and i personally thought they made a huge letdown in that area. I'm not a singer but I didn't think he pulled it off. But that's just my opinion

Playing guitar for 4 years is no big achievement, don't be too proud of yourself there, champ.

Musical skill isn't all about difficulty, you know. Songwriting plays a big part in it, as does harmony, tone, voicings, etc etc.

Fall Out Boy ARE decent songwriters, like them or not. They write catchy songs, and seem to know at least a little musical theory.

reigninblood666

03-15-2008, 9:50 AM

No I'm not trying to be proud of myself in anyway. I just thought that they could've done better. But see what you mean when you talk about songwriting, harmony, tone and soon. But I still stand by what I said about the vocals on THIS song. I didn't like their version. But thanks for correcting me in the other about the songwriting and stuff that has a large part as well.

Sirnogbert

03-15-2008, 10:29 AM

I hate Fall Out Boy with a passion, but to be completely honest that wasn't bad. Sure i won't actively listen to it again, but considering who the band is it could have been a lot worse.

Ghoulz

03-15-2008, 12:03 PM

Opinions are cool I guess

Chocoholic

03-15-2008, 2:20 PM

The whole song just seems like an unnecessary cover. I mean they aren't really breaking new ground or putting an original twist on anything. Whining MJ lyrics and making piss poor attempts at being Eddie Van Halen will not gain you any kind of cred whatsoever.

I agree. The guitar riff sounds exactly the same, they sped it up slightly, and the lead singer is pretty much just yelling the words. It just seems like they sat around, said "Let's cover a Michael Jackson song", and recorded the first take.

But then again you really can't cover a Michael song unless you're giving it your own flavor (as Alien Ant Farm did). Because comparisons are inevitable. And when your cover is really just an un-innovative remake, the original is almost always going to be "better" because everyone already knows it and loves it.

Godly

03-15-2008, 4:04 PM

What a disgrace.

emokid72

03-15-2008, 6:40 PM

Could have been better, could have been worse.

There aren't too many covers that rock anyway (AAF's version of Smooth Criminal being the exception). Yeah, most people start by playing covers as PRACTICE. Some people decide that's all they want to do, they stick to bars unless they completely rock the socks off the right people (Laser Spectaculor, A tribute to Pink Floyd for example). These guys could have done that much better with their music writing skillz (please not the z for "cool"), because let's face it, they have three LPs out.

Bulldog19892

03-15-2008, 8:00 PM

Your response doesn't make sense. "The song isn't bad. The singer is horrible in it." Those two statements totally contradict each other.

Also, I feel like you can't say something is the worst song of the year when there are still 9 months to go in the year. :indiff:

That's true. Soulja Boy might release a new album.

spaj

03-16-2008, 1:56 AM

As a cover it isn't very impressive. Musically I'd say it's a little above average, though.

INTUNEevolution

03-16-2008, 2:03 AM

I see the merit in the effeminate rock bands like the Fray and Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard, etc. But I really, really don't get it. I don't go hardcore metal, but I like my rock to have an edge. Punk and whatnot. The bands I mentioned, and there are many more, cater to girls. And their pussywhipped boyfriends.

Effeminate rock bands.

But like I said, I see the merit, I just don't like it.

Niki

03-16-2008, 2:23 AM

I adore Fall Out Boy. I'm ashamed of it, but I've loved them since 02. Patrick Stump really does have a good voice and an incredible range, but that definitely was not a good song for him.

because let's face it, they have three LPs out.

Four.

Crabstick

03-16-2008, 2:30 AM

Anyone who says this song its terrible are just Fallout Boy haters.

No, my dislike for the band and my dislike of this song are separate. I didn't like the song before I knew who was singing it.

Also, I feel like you can't say something is the worst song of the year when there are still 9 months to go in the year. :indiff:

Don't rule it out though.

Profane Methane

03-16-2008, 2:32 AM

Anything Fall Out Boy does is terrible, I don't see why this song should be any different.

John Travolta

03-16-2008, 10:30 AM

FOB is my favorite band!

HappinessMan

03-16-2008, 1:04 PM

His voice is just too awful for him to do this song. Pete Wentz massacred whatever cover he had of Beat It.

timbot

03-16-2008, 5:15 PM

Yeah, I'm not very impressed. Like a lot of people said, the vocals aren't great. The guitar solo was really lacking. There's no interesting twist on it.
It's cool for them if they're fans of Michael Jackson and wanted to do their little homage, but I'm not going to listen to the song again.

Jallen

03-17-2008, 8:54 AM

The worst song of the year was Crank dat Soulja Boy. Nothing can be worse.

Kenneh

03-17-2008, 9:33 AM

I study music theory and I could get some pretty awesome melodies off my guitar. (so you know first) Their guitarist could really learn to play cleaner than this, his tremolo picking sounds like a fucking retard trying to play the guitar with the side of his pick. And I can honestly say that the solo was sloppy and their choice of tone is absolutely horrible. It sounds like a cheap fucking thing you can get from a 4 watt amplifier (mine).

Their vocalist doesn't sound as bad as I expected. But after listening to this song 3 times I feel as if my ears are fucking killing me, especially the chorus. Fuck.

When I was listening to the song, I felt as if there was no bass, until I realized that so I had to try to listen closely to the song and there I found it. Atleast they could have turned their bass up or maybe NOT USE DISTORTION ON IT?

If I'd rate it, it would probably get a 5 or a 6, they got a pretty good tempo going throughout the song.

GenericInsanity

03-19-2008, 1:48 PM

All in all, I'd say it's forgettable. Nothing spectacular about it, but it wasn't the worst song I've heard recently.

Idioteque

03-20-2008, 5:43 PM

Fugga

03-20-2008, 6:03 PM

i thought it was ok. i don't usually listen to fall out boy so i don't know how good they are

I Lick Vaginas

03-20-2008, 6:31 PM

Grrrrrr! Fall Out Boy makes me angryyyyy!

Peliman said it pretty well: If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you're not going to like it. It's freaking Fall Out Boy.

Covers aren't exactly uncommon in the musical world if you haven't noticed. Granted, they didn't take the song in a different direction, but, uh, who cares?

Pelican Man

03-20-2008, 9:51 PM

Their guitarist could really learn to play cleaner than this, his tremolo picking sounds like a fucking retard trying to play the guitar with the side of his pick.

Actually, the lead guitarist has a really weird way of holding his pick, I think he might actually hold it sideways.

Oh and guys, the singer is Pat Stump, Pete Wentz does back up vocals only.

FaBo

03-20-2008, 9:54 PM

Now all they have to do is hold a baby outside of a window, and seriously though that was fucking gross.

Idioteque

03-20-2008, 10:01 PM

Actually, the lead guitarist has a really weird way of holding his pick, I think he might actually hold it sideways.

Oh and guys, the singer is Pat Stump, Pete Wentz does back up vocals only.

John Mayer plays guitar apparently as well, according to the Rolling Stone.
They actually said it was a good song. :ahe:

Kenneh

03-21-2008, 6:00 AM

Ghoulz

03-21-2008, 10:14 PM

this band still suck?

JQHA

03-25-2008, 12:05 PM

Yep, worst song of the year... So probably a new hit.

Pelican Man

03-25-2008, 4:17 PM

Yep, worst song of the year... So probably a new hit.

Your signature speaks volumes.

Benjimusman

03-26-2008, 9:19 AM

The worst song of the year was Crank dat Soulja Boy. Nothing can be worse.

i agree, soulja boy is god damn terrible, everything ive heard released by him is absolute crap!

BKS

03-26-2008, 1:35 PM

Fallout Boy's popularity comes from their catchy beats, and in my opinion, little more. I personally hate the band, but if I get trapped into listening one of their songs, it will likely be stuck in my head for a week.

However, having heard Beat it and then this version, I don't think it does it much justice.

CnGy

03-26-2008, 1:45 PM

How can you guys think this is good?

That singer hurt my ears. Like. IT'S CALLED A TONE. HIT IT.

The instruments were fine. Although I stopped listening after 15 seconds.

misc

03-29-2008, 12:31 PM

the lead singer really is an ugly bastard isnt he? Guess that explains his constant whining. As far as Fall Out Boy songs go, I'd say this one is pretty good, but as far as covers go, pretty average, and in comparison to the original obviously its terrible, but maybe thats not a fair comparison to make.

PyroOwned

03-29-2008, 1:46 PM

That song was possibly the worst remake I have EVER listened to. Fall Out Boy suck so bad, all they do to even attempt to make songs soung good is mumble, but in yell-form.

kikii

03-29-2008, 9:47 PM

Fall out boy in all their manufactured glory have some pretty profound lyrics; it's just too bad they're all poppy douches.

These guys have done 1 too many covers and need to come up with their own music.

I'm neutral on this whole thing - the music is shit, the band is pretty shit but the orginal song was killer.

abbey

03-30-2008, 12:42 AM

The lead singer shrieking in the beginning with no recognizable tune was terrible. I got like 30 seconds in before I closed the tab.

GnR

03-30-2008, 1:17 PM

Fall Out Boy already sucked, but now they've reached a new low.

Rockon1015

04-06-2008, 10:10 AM

Combinding the FOBs with a gay man that goes "Hee Hee" In a high pitched voice's song is just gay.

-h-o-l-l-y-

04-06-2008, 4:55 PM

It doesnt sound that good

HeyAmandaXD

04-06-2008, 5:15 PM

It's okay. Not something I would love listening to all that much (or ever again), but it isn't horribly bad. But the guitar solo, let's just say wasn't the best thing ever. Lol. And I personally, don't really like Fall Out Boy, so yea. John Mayer is good though.

fabz

04-06-2008, 7:23 PM

This was fucking terrible. I actually like John Mayer but this is just total shit. He can't be Eddie and this is no where near the awesomeness that is the original.

Pope

04-06-2008, 9:31 PM

Pelican Man

04-06-2008, 10:13 PM

In my mind, anyone can cover a song well. I would have liked it, but there was no emotion. if you listen to the original, you can hear the emotion in MJ's voice. Wentz had none. therefore the song was a pitiful attempt in my book.

Read the thread;

Oh and guys, the singer is Pat Stump, Pete Wentz does back up vocals only.

Just because Wentz is their posterboy doesn't mean he's the singer.

Triple J

04-07-2008, 8:30 PM

i agree, soulja boy is god damn terrible, everything ive heard released by him is absolute crap!
YAH BITCH YAAH!!

And on a more serious note, I don't think it's that bad. I mean yeah, they sound a good bit different from like how singers are taught to sound like, but I find it pretty original. Really in my opinion it's just the instruments that kill it. I never like that song by MJ anyways, I liked a whole bunch of other songs by him, but this one didn't really get me.

GrapefruitMovin

04-09-2008, 6:02 PM

Solja Boy is the decline of modern music

Soul

04-09-2008, 6:28 PM

Solja Boy is the decline of modern music

No that began long before Soulja Boy.

davidpwns

04-11-2008, 2:13 PM

I agree with GnR,they just put fuel onto their fire.

Too bad it will turn into a hit,simply because shitty is the new epic in todays music world.

Slash3040

04-13-2008, 6:31 PM

Umbrella = worst song on earth. Damn I actually get pissed as hell when I listen to it, as far as beat it, I wasn't a fan of the remix, but it wasn't the worst song out there. It is catchy

cabhats

04-14-2008, 5:36 PM

Wow... I can honestly say I looked it up expecting to have to rip my ears off to make it stop. But it wasn't actually bad. The fact that I hate FOB's whiney emo vocals aside, it was actually more of a tribute than anything else.
That solo thought... Bad fall out boy Bad! you know you don't have that kind of skill or talent. *rubs fall out boys nose in it*

xmbxr

04-14-2008, 6:15 PM

What the hell is this shit?
Pete Wentz took a decent song and ruined it with his shitty voice. If it was just the guitar solo it would be bearable, but just hearing his voice makes me want to kick the infirm.
Pete Wentz isn't the singer. Get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an ass.

Pelican Man

04-14-2008, 10:16 PM

pete wentz isn't the singer.
so get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an ass.

Read the thread before you make yourself look like an ass. I've already told them that, twice.

MissRAWR

04-14-2008, 10:54 PM

Fucking horrendous.
Guitar sounds good, vocals are freggin horrible. The original cant be beat, plain and simple.
But if someone's gonna re-do it, at least make it a good group. FOB is alright but not right for this song. Their voice is too girly and pop-ish and just not right for a Michael Jackson song.

Profane Methane

04-15-2008, 12:28 AM

Michael Jacksons voice isn't girly?

MissRAWR

04-15-2008, 12:44 AM

Not as girly as them

Pelican Man

04-15-2008, 1:05 AM

Michael Jacksons voice isn't girly?

And apparently not poppy, either.

Pud

04-15-2008, 1:19 AM

Does anyone write their own shit anymore?
I hate wanker bands that fuck good old songs with their shithouse 'fresh taste on a classic' crap.
Fuck off and die Fall out boy.

northernhillbilly

04-15-2008, 2:39 PM

Any new music fucking blows. All these new "rock bands" are nothing but whiny little bitches complaining about stuff we all have to go through. It pisses me off because they get so much radio time, and people seem to think it must be good. FUCK! I'm getting mad just thinking about it.

Pieman

04-15-2008, 3:42 PM

Anyone thats saying they're popular because their songs are catchy is deluding themself. Their songs are catchy, yes, but they are only famous because they are a cruel parody of 'Emo'. Emo is the new scene, everyone is saying that they like it now, but this isn't emo at all (Actually, none of the scene emo bands are). This is Pop-Rock labled as Emo.

What do you get when pussy-wannabe emos listen to Pop-Rock labled as Emo? A NEW FUCKING FAD! They don't like 'real' emo, so they took an MTV produced placebo. Thats the only reason they're famous, and the other bands that really are emo are still shat upon.

No, I'm not emo, but I do enoy some emo bands. And yeah I know I sounded really emo just then, but I just hate FoB alot.

PS: The worst song ever is Umbrella, with crank that as a close second

PPS: If you couldn't tell from the emo rant, I think this song is shit.

lobster bisque anyone?

04-15-2008, 7:57 PM

The song was aright until the solo came and the rythym was dominating the solo itself which made it sound like crying babies eating shit.

xmbxr

04-15-2008, 8:28 PM

Read the thread before you make yourself look like an ass. I've already told them that, twice.
I read it. It just annoys me when people think that the singer is Pete. I had to say something.

bbyblu

04-15-2008, 9:55 PM

i actually used to like FOB and kinda like john mayer, put them together with this mj remix... the admiration is gone... it's amazing how ppl with talent can elude it.

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