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Benjaman
03-29-2008, 7:08 PM
We don't know anymore. Benjaman is extremely confusing at times.... =\
And the comma clue is a different kind of clue from what you are used to. It may help you or it may not.
Hang on a minute, why the hell would GCBC rat out a robot if he was one? That just doesn't make sense, unless he is a good robot.
She.
You're smarter than I originally thought. :fmita:
davidmanman
03-29-2008, 7:10 PM
Also, there are more letters. MAC NACEHN ENT MOIESTOR
That was at 10:27.
Last edited by Benjaman : 03-29-2008 at 10:43 PM. (adding fake clue somewhere, hah)
Bah, I thought Dauntasa was the registered asshole.
So, no, he wasn't lying.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 7:11 PM
And the comma clue is a different kind of clue from what you are used to. It may help you or it may not.
SEE HETA I MEAN?!?!*over dramatising*
Anyway, back to the matter at hand.
1) Give us anotha clue luv?
2) GCBC could have been trying to throw you off. If you didn't notice, alot of people didn't cast their votes, nor did they even post.
davidmanman
03-29-2008, 7:15 PM
Inseln, it'd be pretty stupid for someone to give up one of their own, to throw people off of them.
Also, there are always a bunch of people who post little if at all in these games.
I'm not too sure in how to interpret the new information given to us by Benjamin.
Pig Fucker
03-29-2008, 7:16 PM
The Hulk has a comma after it, whereas Spiderman doesnt.
Any way these could hint towards players?
They could hint at a bunch of players, but none of the hints really strike me as very valid.
It could be towards Mirrorman or Pieman because of their superhero-esque names. Likewise, it could be towards Gordan because of Flash Gordan. All of that seems like a big stretch, though.
The Hulk could be towards Davidman because of his Colbert avatar. Colbert has an affiliation with The Hulk which was today pointed out in spame (and we all know both Ben and Die Hard are avid spamers). Once again, this clue seems like a big stretch.
The Hulk could also point to GRB because he's green.
The Hulk could point towards Dauntasa because if you google Dauntasa, one of the first sites is a Nuklear Power Forums account. The Hulk became such because of an accident involving a gamma bomb.
The argument itself could point towards Awesomerthanyou because we were arguing over who was awesomer.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, we probably need to find more solid clues than just "Could Spiderman or the Hulk mean anything?"
Hang on a minute, why the hell would GCBC rat out a robot if he was one? That just doesn't make sense, unless he is a good robot.
Another clue perhaps Ben? please?
EDIT: look at Ben's clue in his edit caption:. And that anagram was added in after he wrote that. Meaning that that is probably the fake clue.
The anagram wasn't added after that; it was added at 6:24 EST while the edit caption was added at 6:41. At 6:11 "COMMAS" was added, at 6:24 the anagram and other white letters were added, at 6:41 I couldn't see any discernible difference between the old post and new editted post and at 7:56 the words "Don't point out this clue" were taken out. I think Ben is just screwing with us.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 7:22 PM
Inseln, it'd be pretty stupid for someone to give up one of their own, to throw people off of them.
Also, there are always a bunch of people who post little if at all in these games.
I'm not too sure in how to interpret the new information given to us by Benjamin.
You forget. I'm new. So my bad about the whole 'people who don't post' thing.
^_^;;
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 7:22 PM
I think Ben is just screwing with us.
Truth be told, alot of these people are of a slightly lower intelligence (or seem of it, like over thinking things), so I have to take out some confusing/harder clues. I'm not saying everyone is stupid, just that you aren't getting my clues as fast as I thought they would.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 7:29 PM
Truth be told, alot of these people are of a slightly lower intelligence (or seem of it, like over thinking things), so I have to take out some confusing/harder clues. I'm not saying everyone is stupid, just that you aren't getting my clues as fast as I thought they would.
Well, if all of your clues fit together, it's not very obvious. And some people here have work and school and other similar activites that the use up all their brain power on, and then when they get home, can't even be bothered to keep any lights on. If you catch my meaning..
And we have been getting enough of them to vote out a bad robot, so we can't be doing all bad right?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 7:31 PM
Well, if all of your clues fit together, it's not very obvious. And some people here have work and school and other similar activites that the use up all their brain power on, and then when they get home, can't even be bothered to keep any lights on. If you catch my meaning..
And we have been getting enough of them to vote out a bad robot, so we can't be doing all bad right?
Exactly. I want it to be challenging, but yeah, you guys are doing better.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 7:37 PM
Exactly. I want it to be challenging, but yeah, you guys are doing better.
:biggrin:
Give us a few more days to get into the habit of pieceing together your clues without over thinking it and you'll beable to get back to the hard ones again.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 7:47 PM
I guarantee that isn't the case either. I didn't notice the comma after Spiffy's name. But my name has a comma after it too, and if I was a bad robot I wouldn't have thrown suspicion on myself out there. And I wouldn't have helped to solve the last clue.
Back to the drawing board I guess.
Um, just throwing it out there, but I remember in the penguin game, both you and I were on the evil team, and you went out and voted for yourself to throw the attention away from you.
You could be doing the same thing or you could like me, do the same thing in every game no matter what.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 7:50 PM
Um, just throwing it out there, but I remember in the penguin game, both you and I were on the evil team, and you went out and voted for yourself to throw the attention away from you.
You could be doing the same thing or you could like me, do the same thing in every game no matter what.
And does it mean you're going to accuse her of being an evil robot? Or are you just 'throwing it out there'?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 7:55 PM
And a little math for the comma clue:
If c=b and c=a, then b=a, if c=comma, that is. 'Tis the Transitive Property.
And a riddle, why not: Not about commas!!11
Without the mammal,
For a hero in the makin',
he's not the Knight
of bring-home-the-bacon.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:02 PM
So in regards to what Benjaman said, if we find out who the comma is, and who another comma is, then we know that they both have the same role in the game.
Dunno if the transitive property thing was just for Ben's laughs or for actual benefit, but i'll mention it anyways.
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:03 PM
So in regards to what Benjaman said, if we find out who the comma is, and who another comma is, then we know that they both have the same role in the game.
Dunno if the transitive property thing was just for Ben's laughs or for actual benefit, but i'll mention it anyways.
Or maybe the commas only pertain to commas. Think "are" mean "=".
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:07 PM
So correct me if I am wrong again, but say Person A is a comma, and Person B is a comma, they both:
1) Have the same role and the commas only pertain to one specific role,
or
2) They have some kind of special role, but Person A could be an army dude and Person B can be a bad robot yet they are still both commas.
I think one of those two is what you mean. I could be wrong though.
EDIT: To Inseln, I'm just throwing it out there; I'm not accusing her.
Um, just throwing it out there, but I remember in the penguin game, both you and I were on the evil team, and you went out and voted for yourself to throw the attention away from you.
You could be doing the same thing or you could like me, do the same thing in every game no matter what.
But if you also recall, I never exposed someone on my evil team, which is what me solving the clue this time did. The only time I ever voted against someone on my own team was when they were already going to die. This time I pretty much started the bandwagon against Spiffy. I am also willing to bet that I will be killed off by the evil robots sometime soon because I did help to kill one of them off.
Or if they were really smart, they wouldn't kill me off to try and make you guys suspicious of me so that you bandwagon and kill me off thinking I didn't die by evil robot because I am one.
But I am not an evil robot, that I promise you.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:11 PM
Yeah, I have no reason to not believe you, that thing just caught my eye.
If you've noticed by now I have some crazy conspiracy theories.
(My Easy-Bake Oven conspiracy, where the owner was a noob because only noobs use "easy" bake ovens, for example)
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:13 PM
So correct me if I am wrong again, but say Person A is a comma, and Person B is a comma, they both:
1) Have the same role and the commas only pertain to one specific role,
or
2) They have some kind of special role, but Person A could be an army dude and Person B can be a bad robot yet they are still both commas.
I think one of those two is what you mean. I could be wrong though.
You're thinking to much like before. I said this comma clue is related to something totally different, that could be used to your advantage during the game. The comma, the b, and the c are all different subjects, and I'll even give you a big hint; a is a number, and b is Dresden.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 8:14 PM
Happy now?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:19 PM
Knight, captial K. KoC obviously.
Nope.
And a mammal is a warm-blooded animal that has hair on its skin and gives its young milk to drink. So, it could be reffering to us humans, inside or outside the game.
Yes;No.
If it's inside, then it's obviously the army and the civs. Or it could be reffering to the user names. Bring home-the-bacon. A reference to pig fucker maybe?
Nope.
And with the comma clue/equation...
If c=b and c=a, then b=a, if c=comma, that is. 'Tis the Transitive Property
The transitive property is a maths term.
For equality: If a=b and b=c, then a=c; For inequality: If a»b and b»c, then a»c; or If a«b and b«c, then a«c
So that must mean that comma is equal to a, b and c, butthat's only if the comma is equal to C. If it isn't then, we have nothing.
Comma is equal to c, I said so in my post. But that's just maths. You work out things well, but you are still off. I'll give my last big hint for the round: The riddle, once figured out, is three Usernames. Along the way, you should never get another person substituted. And alot of emphasis on "hero" in the riddle.
Oh, and:
"butthat's"
:fmita:
davidmanman
03-29-2008, 8:30 PM
I would assume that since Dresden is innocent, the commas are innocent. And since b is a number, that means b, what possibly the amount of commas, are innocent. That number could be 15, the number of commas in his update post. So the clue could say that there are 15 people who are innocent. I'm not sure whether innocent means civilian, or it includes people in the army too.
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:32 PM
I would assume that since Dresden is innocent, the commas are innocent. And since b is a number, that means b, what possibly the amount of commas, are innocent. That number could be 15, the number of commas in his update post. So the clue could say that there are 15 people who are innocent.
:gj: I bet you learned something today.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:32 PM
EDIT: Again David, beat me to it again!
Inseln
03-29-2008, 8:38 PM
Happy now?
Dauntasa
03-29-2008, 8:40 PM
I'm not sure whether innocent means civilian, or it includes people in the army too.
Innocent probably includes the Army, but now that I think about it, how do we know that the Army is on our side? They could very well be trying to kill us all in order to cover up the fact that they have been building evil robots.
In the thread to sign up for this game, it was stated that the roles would be explained in this thread. Unless I missed it, I don't see that anywhere? Could someone either direct me to where that is, or can Ben explain the roles like he promised when we signed up?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:48 PM
If butthat's = pants and pants = butthat's, your lol is disqualified. No. :mad:
I was wrong about the KoC thing, but Knight has a captical K, and I doubt that's a typo.
It wasn't. Think of a superhero who is a "Knight"
I was right about the mammal being what it is, but not what it refers to.
Yes.
And that's also a no to the Pig Fucker reference.
Correct.
Thanks for the compliment; and a hero, you're reffering to the Hulk + Spiderman thing. And looking back over that post??
No, I wasn't. Who is better than the Hulk AND Spiderman combined?
A bus can't inspect people's injuries, so unless the bus is a transformer, you might wanna fix up that typo.
It is a transformer, but the bus is good, so it can't be killed. This not a clue, only a joke.
Anyway, back to Hulk and the Spiderman and that riddle. The riddle is two usernames. Obviously not Dresden and Spiffy, they're dead. Yeah.
Without the mammal,
For a hero in the makin',
he's not the Knight
of bring-home-the-bacon.
That was the riddle.
I'm confused, and I suppose the KoC and Pig Fucker things were too obvious. But you said to not over think things. ;D
I did, and you guys are doing well.
I notice you've put a 'he' and not a 'she', so that rules out all the girls in here. And without the mammal, someone with a 'man' in their user name? Or did you say that the username reference's were wrong? Well, I said the knight doesn't pertain to users, but another person.
Hero in the making...Well, that's me quite obviously! ;D
Could be anyone of us. See above.
And a knight of bring-home-the-bacon. That probably rules out KoC and Pig Fucker from the riddle. So that's a handful of people crossed off the list. Yeah.
And there are 15 innocent people. Okay, so umm... Yeah I think I've finished my ramble. You're done? D'aww :frown:
Feel free to tell me where I went wrong. Or not...
I did.
And to GCBC:
There will be four classes: Army, Civilians, Evil Robots, and Good Robots. Details and such will be in main game thread, when people sign up, and in PM's. I would explain them, 'cause I'm a nice guy, but I'd need Die Hard's permission first. .
Inseln
03-29-2008, 8:51 PM
Oh so you want me to continuously ramble on like that?
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:52 PM
The Knight is Batman, the Dark Knight.
Damn Inseln.
EDIT: No idea what Batman has to do with anything though.
Pig Fucker
03-29-2008, 8:53 PM
It wasn't. Think of a superhero who is a "Knight"
The Dark Knight/Bat Man, only without the mammal, so just man. So its got something to do with Pieman, Mirrorman or Davidmanman? And what does "bring home the bacon" have to do with anything?
Dauntasa
03-29-2008, 8:55 PM
The Dark Knight/Bat Man, only without the mammal, so just man. So its got something to do with Pieman, Mirrorman or Davidmanman? And what does "bring home the bacon" have to do with anything?
Pie and Bacon are both food.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 8:56 PM
The Knight is Batman, the Dark Knight.
Damn Inseln.
EDIT: No idea what Batman has to do with anything though.
Why are you damning me? I'm confused...
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 8:58 PM
Oh so you want me to continuously ramble on like that?
It gives good insight to what you guys are thinking.
Pie and Bacon are both food.
No.
"Bring-Home-The-Bacon" is "Got-Ham". Gotham? Geddit? :fmita:. I'm sooo clever.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 8:58 PM
Because you ramble too much and too often, it's ok to do it occasionally but every other post gets annoying. Also I'm damning you because Ben had to spell it out for you.
EDIT: Oh Benjaman, you and your corn-y jokes. See I'm staying on the food topic. :hf:
And now I'm hungry.
I could go for some tasty key-lime pie right about now.
redbayredneck
03-29-2008, 8:58 PM
EDIT:Nevermind, didn't see ben's latest clue
Inseln
03-29-2008, 9:01 PM
Because you ramble too much and too often, it's ok to do it occasionally but every other post gets annoying. Also I'm damning you because Ben had to spell it out for you.
EDIT: Oh Benjaman, you and your corn-y jokes. See I'm staying on the food topic. :hf:
And now I'm hungry.
I could go for some tasty key-lime pie right about now.
I just ate lunch, mmm.. Chicken Legs :D
And fine, I'll wait a page before I do another, I'm out of ideas anyway...
Also another question for Ben/Die hard- What are you going to do about the people that signed up but aren't participating? Are they going to be killed off like in the last game?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 9:06 PM
The Dark Knight/Bat Man, only without the mammal, so just man. So its got something to do with Pieman, Mirrorman or Davidmanman?
They are quite the variety.
Also another question for Ben/Die hard- What are you going to do about the people that signed up but aren't participating? Are they going to be killed off like in the last game?
I guess. The only 2 that didn't really participate are Penguin of Death and Freezy. We didn't send our PMs, so we'd do that first.
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 9:07 PM
Won't delete.
davidmanman
03-29-2008, 9:18 PM
By a superhero who is a knight, he might mean batman, the dark knight.
Crap already said.
blltmssgy
03-29-2008, 9:23 PM
Ha! I finally beat you to something. :smile:
ryuuzaki
03-29-2008, 9:34 PM
They are quite the variety.
I guess. The only 2 that didn't really participate are Penguin of Death and Freezy. We didn't send our PMs, so we'd do that first.
I was just thinking about the Batman clue when I read this and I thought Penguin of Death and Freezy remind me of the two super villians (The Penquin and Mr. Freeze) from the Batman series.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 9:37 PM
I was just thinking about the Batman clue when I read this and I thought Penguin of Death and Freezy remind me of the two super villians (The Penquin and Mr. Freeze) from the Batman series.
I think someone's struck something. Considering they were bad in the movies, it's stand to reason to assume them to be bad robots right?
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 9:44 PM
I was just thinking about the Batman clue when I read this and I thought Penguin of Death and Freezy remind me of the two super villians (The Penquin and Mr. Freeze) from the Batman series.
I think someone's struck something. Considering they were bad in the movies, it's stand to reason to assume them to be bad robots right?
Though I'm not going to say that is correct or not, I wouldn't waste my vote if they are going to die off naturally. It'd make the game go too slow.
And a little math for the comma clue:
If c=b and c=a, then b=a, if c=comma, that is. 'Tis the Transitive Property.
And a riddle, why not: Not about commas!!11
Without the mammal,
For a hero in the makin',
he's not the Knight
of bring-home-the-bacon.
Without the mammal for a knight, that would imply he does not have a horse.
So, if Batman is the knight, then what about his lack of horse? Lack of Batmobile?
Or, thanks to Inseln's musings, we remove the Bat from Batman, and get man.
So, I figure, remove the Man from the names, and we get Pie(man), Davidman(man), and Mirror(man).
Maybe Pie is a reference to the first post?
Or maybe I'm just retarded, more likely than naught.
*Just ramblings*
EDIT: Shit, essentially Pigfucker's words.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 9:48 PM
Though I'm not going to say that is correct or not, I wouldn't waste my vote if they are going to die off naturally. It'd make the game go too slow.
I'm not voting untill I have solid evidence. Or the next best thing atleast.
Cheers BKS... Gotta love my MSN ramblings sometimes.
Benjaman
03-29-2008, 10:05 PM
So, I figure, remove the Man from the names, and we get Pie(man), Davidman(man), and Mirror(man).
They are quite the variety.
Remember to think of past posts, no matter how far back.
Inseln
03-29-2008, 10:10 PM
....
I Hate You
Thank you, now I'm going to have to go back and go through every post so far...
So very, very much...
Someone put in a new post so I don't double post?
....
I Hate You
Thank you, now I'm going to have to go back and go through every post so far...
So very, very much...
Someone put in a new post so I don't double post?
Or you could just edit your post, you noob.
Pieman
03-29-2008, 10:58 PM
Maybe Pie is a reference to the first post?
Yes, but the Pie is being eaten, what evil robot feed people such great cuisine?
On the Batman note, he is essentially an 'Anti-Hero'. So like a bad guy, but actually good. Could this be a reference to Good Robots?
Also, Mirrorman was mentioned before this, but was dismissed as a red herring. Could be relevant so I'm just throwing this back in.
Exodus
03-29-2008, 11:22 PM
I would just like to throw in there that inseln was suspected as a robot, but dismissed as a good robot. You would think that the robots would want to eliminate him, but didn't. I think we should keep an eye on him.
On the Batman note, he is essentially an 'Anti-Hero'. So like a bad guy, but actually good. Could this be a reference to Good Robots?
May be on to something, and I was accusing any of the players ending in "man", was merely speculating.
Perhaps we need to go back to the first close and see if we can find any connection between the Batman and anything else.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 12:43 AM
On the Batman note, he is essentially an 'Anti-Hero'. So like a bad guy, but actually good. Could this be a reference to Good Robots?
Remember, don't overthink things.
I assure you, there is more than one. A male virgin.
What in the world? Found this on the first page.
Now I'm sure this is complete speculation, but it could mean Robin (At least I think he was), as in Batman and Robin. That could be the duo, and thus the clue leads to two people. Though I'm probably just making crap up.
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 12:47 AM
Holy fuck you guys, seriously, I'd like to help and all, but there's just way too much shit to sift through.
I think we've got the Commas=Dresden=15 Civilians thing done, and I doubt there's much more to the Batman riddle. I like where we're going with the anti-hero/good robots thing, but honestly I've totally forgotten half the Batman clue. I'm willing to bet that that one unsolved letter jumble from last round that might have ended in PM was a red herring clue. So that leaves Ben's advice to look through past posts (http://forums.explosm.net/showpost.php?p=463776&postcount=33):
So many possible leads, is there only one clue per round, or are there multiple clues?I assure you, there is more than one. A male virgin.Edited in a few hours ago.
Now I don't want to be the one to call anyone's sexuality into question here (though I think I already did:lol:), but who's the most flaming virgin in the game? And what role does he have? And does this connect to the Batman thing?
Then there's also the thing about the obviously guilty ones being innocent. So that might refer to ryuuzaki and gordon, but I'd rather focus on Ben's edits. I'll scan for more.
ryuuzaki
03-30-2008, 1:01 AM
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jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 1:25 AM
I don't know anything about Batman so I have no idea about the Robin=virgin thing.
Without the mammal (bat),
For a hero in the makin', (Batman)
he's not the (Dark) Knight
of bring-home-the-bacon. (saving our asses)
Without the Bat in Batman, we have a clue pointing to a bad robot who won't save us. Which of the three "mans" it is is anyone's guess. And supposedly it connects to the virgin thing:
So, I figure, remove the Man from the names, and we get Pie(man), Davidman(man), and Mirror(man).
They are quite the variety.
Remember to think of past posts, no matter how far back.
"They are quite the variety" might mean they're not all on the same team. I doubt Ben would assign roles based on usernames, avatars, sigs, sexuality, etc. (If all virgins are on the same team, it's by coincidence, not intention.) This would point to Mirrorman being a bad robot, since he already has some heat. Maybe the virgin thing is a separate clue pointing to something else, but I can't help feeling like it's supposed to help us with the "three mans" puzzle because of its placement.
Inseln
03-30-2008, 2:18 AM
Happy now?
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 2:37 AM
We still have the 'GDGHPE FOGLDS OL' thing which we haven't yet decoded...
I think that might be a red herring clue that will amount to nothing. Ben said there's two fake clues per round.
He said that to me on page 7. Maybe we're actually going to have to try and think with this one and not go off what we've had before? You know? Maybe on the off chance it's different?
It might have something to do with the paragraph structure. Like those riddles where moving a comma entirely changes the meaning: dog, eating chicken; dog eating, chicken. He kind of seemed to confirm the 15 thing though, so I don't know. (I think that would not include army members, these games usually have more good guys than bad guys.)
All this transitive property stuff seems to be done. I think we're good with that. A B C stand for things, as Ben confirmed, it doesn't mean swap letters. He's thrown us too many anagrams/acronyms/ciphers, time to try new tactics.
Holy miscounted usernames Batman!! (:lol:)
That word I put in bold, italics and underlines, didn't that used to be a 'two' and not a 'three'?! So with the Mirrorman, Pieman and Davidmanman we were correct.
Perhaps the riddle points to three users (which makes total sense), but that doesn't mean they're all on the same team. Again, it's unlikely that they'd be on the same team by chance, and unheard of for them to be on the same team by intention, unless Ben's being an asshole. We seem to have gotten the hero bit, Batman reference and all, and it seems the riddle says that whoever it points to is not a hero, i.e. good guy.
No clue who could beat both the Hulk and Spiderman.
Anyway, I'm trying to go by what Ben confirms so that I don't over think things. It worked for Spiffy, so obviously we're doing something right.
gordanthefree
03-30-2008, 2:38 AM
So the equal sign means 'are'.
Therefore; if careb and carea, then barea. Latin terms maybe? Or am I still over thinking things and it's just a language that's not dead.
But if we swap it around to say 'are' means equals and we go back to every post they've done so far maybe? I would but I have to go soon so I have no time for that.
I've done latin at school, neither are latin phrases.
@Ben, please stop editing your posts more than 1nce, it gets REALLY annoying
USER WAS PUT IN TIMEOUT FOR THIS POST. (http://forums.explosm.net/eventlog.php)
Reason: 1nce.
Demoir
03-30-2008, 3:47 AM
Oh my God one night of sleeping and there's already so much shit to go through.
By the way, if b=Dresden then b=innocent and since there's a comma after 'the Hulk' in the update, can we assume that whoever 'the Hulk' is referring to is innocent?
Mirrorman
03-30-2008, 6:34 AM
Whoa, you write WAY too long posts guys.
Also I have a bad hunch about ryuuzaki from the last round. But I'm not accusing him yet because it's just a hunch and with a lack of evidence it could only cause harm to me.
MrDoctor
03-30-2008, 8:21 AM
Holyshit I go to sleep for one night and you guys write a book on batman and pie. Any way I'm liking the three user name clue but it's only speculation right now, so now voting yet.
Holy shitfuck Batman, this stuff is rough.
Any luck on determining if any username is superhero esque?
Well, thanks to Gordanthefree's post in the Oneup Game, I found this.
http://www.supersimpsons.com/pieman.jpg
Pieman, perhaps any relation to this game?
Triple J
03-30-2008, 11:19 AM
Wow, they are like clues flying left and right. Does anyone have a list of possible suspects? Or should we make one?
Benjaman
03-30-2008, 12:12 PM
*Deep, Deep, Breath*
I think we've got the Commas=Dresden=15 Civilians thing done, and I doubt there's much more to the Batman riddle. I like where we're going with the anti-hero/good robots thing, but honestly I've totally forgotten half the Batman clue. I'm willing to bet that that one unsolved letter jumble from last round that might have ended in PM was a red herring clue. So that leaves Ben's advice to look through past posts (http://forums.explosm.net/showpost.php?p=463776&postcount=33):
Yes;No;:wink:
Now I don't want to be the one to call anyone's sexuality into question here (though I think I already did:lol:), but who's the most flaming virgin in the game? And what role does he have? And does this connect to the Batman thing? Think "Username" + "Role"; This is a hard one.[/quote]
Then there's also the thing about the obviously guilty ones being innocent. So that might refer to ryuuzaki and gordon, but I'd rather focus on Ben's edits. I'll scan for more. Think REALLY obvious.
I don't know anything about Batman so I have no idea about the Robin=virgin thing. Good, 'cause that'd be very weird.
Without the mammal (bat),
For a hero in the makin', (Batman)
he's not the (Dark) Knight
of bring-home-the-bacon. (saving our asses)]
Without the Bat in Batman, we have a clue pointing to a bad robot who won't save us. Which of the three "mans" it is is anyone's guess. And supposedly it connects to the virgin thing:
DOTT
"They are quite the variety" might mean they're not all on the same team. I doubt Ben would assign roles based on usernames, avatars, sigs, sexuality, etc. (If all virgins are on the same team, it's by coincidence, not intention.) This would point to Mirrorman being a bad robot, since he already has some heat. Maybe the virgin thing is a separate clue pointing to something else, but I can't help feeling like it's supposed to help us with the "three mans" puzzle because of its placement.
You have the right idea, but don't label by your suspicions.
So our best guess right now at who is a bad robot is mirrorman? I thought he was just a red herring, but since the eveidence is now pointing to him maybe those past clues were just a build up...
Maybe, Maybe not.
We still have the 'GDGHPE FOGLDS OL' thing which we haven't yet decoded...
Good thing, too.
He said that to me on page 7. Maybe we're actually going to have to try and think with this one and not go off what we've had before? You know? Maybe on the off chance it's different?
I forgot what you said here :fmita:
Anyway, enough of the sarcasm. He did the 'If c=b and c=a, then b=a, if c=comma, that is. 'Tis the Transitive Property. thing. (If a=b and b=n, then c=a) Which is a maths term. And the riddle which we more or less figure out. ... Right?
This has already been said.
So the equal sign means 'are'.
Therefore; if careb and carea, then barea. Latin terms maybe? Or am I still over thinking things and it's just a language that's not dead.
But if we swap it around to say 'are' means equals and we go back to every post they've done so far maybe? I would but I have to go soon so I have no time for that.
See above.
If it could be used to our advantage, I wouldn't know it because I've never done this sort of thing before. Okay all experienced players, whats an advantage to have that we could gain from figuring this out?
See Above.
That word I put in bold, italics and underlines, didn't that used to be a 'two' and not a 'three'?! So with the Mirrorman, Pieman and Davidmanman we were correct.
There was a miscount :fmita:
And we did the 15 innocent people... that's 15 out of 30 now. so the other half aren't so innocent, I'm assuming the bad robots + one other group?
You're miscounting groups.
I think that might be a red herring clue that will amount to nothing. Ben said there's two fake clues per round.
Possibly.
It might have something to do with the paragraph structure. Like those riddles where moving a comma entirely changes the meaning: dog, eating chicken; dog eating, chicken. He kind of seemed to confirm the 15 thing though, so I don't know. (I think that would not include army members, these games usually have more good guys than bad guys.)
:eyebrow:
All this transitive property stuff seems to be done. I think we're good with that. A B C stand for things, as Ben confirmed, it doesn't mean swap letters. He's thrown us too many anagrams/acronyms/ciphers, time to try new tactics.
Good train of thought :gj:
Perhaps the riddle points to three users (which makes total sense), but that doesn't mean they're all on the same team. Again, it's unlikely that they'd be on the same team by chance, and unheard of for them to be on the same team by intention, unless Ben's being an asshole. We seem to have gotten the hero bit, Batman reference and all, and it seems the riddle says that whoever it points to is not a hero, i.e. good guy.
Yeah, I sorted each player into each team by number of average meals eaten per day. [/sarcasm]
No clue who could beat both the Hulk and Spiderman.
It's been figured out, you just haven't realized it.
Anyway, I'm trying to go by what Ben confirms so that I don't over think things. It worked for Spiffy, so obviously we're doing something right.
You are.
I've done latin at school, neither are latin phrases.
Good.
@Ben, please edit your posts more than 1nce, it gets REALLY fun!
Oh, I'd LOVE to.
Mirrorman
03-30-2008, 12:37 PM
So the best clue we got is that Pieman is a bad man?
Or are you suggesting that guys with man in their names are good?(Not that I'm not, I thought the it was clear that I'm not bad since round 1 :indiff:)
God this is fucking confusing.
Also it would be stupid of him to put all guys with man in their name in the same team, it would be too obvius. And I'm not a virgin, just to clear that one.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 12:44 PM
It's been figured out, you just haven't realized it.
I'm assuming that means Batman was the answer to who could beat both of them.
I'm gonna edit something in a little bit.
Pig Fucker
03-30-2008, 1:01 PM
I think you guys are over thinking things still. that means you Inseln
Half of the stuff that Ben said pointed towards Batman, and we've already figured that out. We've also figured out most of the stuff about the transitive property. Unfortunately, since there's been so much talking about it, I'm not sure what's right and what's wrong anymore.
In my opinion, we should focus on "male virgin". Think "Username" + "Role"? Male probably refers back to people with man in their names, and virgin I would think points towards good robot. Robots don't have feelings (as I recently learned from an episode of SpongeBob) and therefore wouldn't have sex. Virgin also has a benevolent connotation (think Mary, Jesus, non-alcoholic drinks) suggesting that the robot would be good.
I would guess that David is the good robot, since he has the most masculine of the three Usernames and that the other two are any combination of the other three roles because of Ben's previous statement that they were "quite the variety".
Also, just in case I'm not on the right track, I'm going to go check Quadros' Virgin List in Spame.
Benjaman
03-30-2008, 1:53 PM
In my opinion, we should focus on "male virgin". Think "Username" + "Role"? Male probably refers back to people with man in their names, and virgin I would think points towards good robot. Robots don't have feelings (as I recently learned from an episode of SpongeBob) and therefore wouldn't have sex. Virgin also has a benevolent connotation (think Mary, Jesus, non-alcoholic drinks) suggesting that the robot would be good.
You're overcomplicating things. Think "what does a male have that is a username", "what does virgin mean that is a role" It's simple if you make it simple.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 2:03 PM
So 19. Penis/ConCon would be the username then? And I guess virgin=innocent, as it's like purity. So ConCon is innocent. Unless I'm wrong.
Edit: BKS, how do you figure that?
So I'm gonna call it right now, and say Robosexual is innocent.
Con-Con
03-30-2008, 2:13 PM
So 19. Penis/ConCon would be the username then? And I guess virgin=innocent, as it's like purity. So ConCon is innocent. Unless I'm wrong.
Edit: BKS, how do you figure that?
Your not wrong.
Pig Fucker
03-30-2008, 2:13 PM
Robosexual is obviously a robot, and Ben said that the most obvious is innocent.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 2:15 PM
Con-Con, I don't exactly trust you as an nonbiased opinion on that.
And Pig Fucker, thanks for the clarification. That makes sense.
Robosexual is obviously a robot, and Ben said that the most obvious is innocent.
And it has elements of "Homosexual" and virgin and all that shit, I donno, I thought it made sense
I am just going to throw out there that I don't think Mirrorman is an evil robot. Call it a hunch, and call it a him not seeming to be detrimental to the riddle solving. I think that that riddle about the three man names, saying what a variety, indeed means that the three of them are on separate teams, meaning one is a good robot, one is a bad robot, and one is the army. My suspicions place Mirrorman as either good robot or army. Probably army. So by that line of thought, is Davidmanman or Pieman the evil one?
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 4:00 PM
First off I agree that mirrorman isn't a bad guy as well.
And if we are assuming that the riddle refers to these three then as you said that leaves Davidmanman and Pieman.
I would say that David is good, except last game he played the role as champion of the people, and it turned out that he was evil. He seems to be doing that again this game.
On the other hand Pieman really hasn't said anything, maybe he is trying to make sure we have no reason not to trust him.
I see ways both would be evil, and I definitely think it could be either.
Also, Ben has been telling us that one of the roles is really obvious and he has also been telling us to look at the first pages. Hear me out here.
At the beginning we all suspected Inseln, but then all of a sudden we decided that he was a good robot. Could this be the obvious thing that he is talking about? Could Inseln be an evil robot?
This would not surprise me, because if we were right, and he was a good robot, the evil robots should have killed him off. If they had any suspicion that he had more powers than a civilian and other people felt that he did too, why not kill him off. It in no way gives away who they are.
That being said I think two of these three are evil robots:
Davidmanman, Pieman, and Inseln
I AM SO BADASS
Dauntasa
03-30-2008, 4:04 PM
First off I agree that mirrorman isn't a bad guy as well.
And if we are assuming that the riddle refers to these three then as you said that leaves Davidmanman and Pieman.
I would say that David is good, except last game he played the role as champion of the people, and it turned out that he was evil. He seems to be doing that again this game.
On the other hand Pieman really hasn't said anything, maybe he is trying to make sure we have no reason not to trust him.
I see ways both would be evil, and I definitely think it could be either.
Also, Ben has been telling us that one of the roles is really obvious and he has also been telling us to look at the first pages. Hear me out here.
At the beginning we all suspected Inseln, but then all of a sudden we decided that he was a good robot. Could this be the obvious thing that he is talking about? Could Inseln be an evil robot?
This would not surprise me, because if we were right, and he was a good robot, the evil robots should have killed him off. If they had any suspicion that he had more powers than a civilian and other people felt that he did too, why not kill him off. It in no way gives away who they are.
That being said I think two of these three are evil robots:
Davidmanman, Pieman, and Inseln
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davidmanman
03-30-2008, 4:21 PM
When Benjamin said "They are quite the variety" in comment to Pieman, Mirror-man, and myself being listed as the subjects of the batman clue, I think he meant that we each have different roles.
Last round we had the Mirrorman clue, but it was really a distraction from the Spiffy clue. I don't think he would've used Mirrorman if he was truly a bad robot, as that would've meant that had we killed him instead of Spiffy we still would've gotten a evil robot. However, I don't believe he is a civilian, and might be in the army or a good robot.
I don't exactly have any evidence to provide innocence for myself other than my own word, and the fact I have been trying to decifer clues for the duration of the game. But I do believe that the clue means that one of the three of us is an evil robot. I don't have any other evidence for Pieman, but I do believe he is the one. I'm not going to vote for him, however, as I need some more evidence to convince myself.
Also, Blltmssgy, if you believe that 2 out of Pieman, myself, and Inseln are evil robots, and since either Pieman or me are bad robots, then Inseln would have to be an evil robot. So I wouldn't necessarily say something a definitive as "2 out of these 3 people are evil robots."
End of ramble.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 4:30 PM
I felt that that was the gist of my post, considering I said that I felt that Inseln was an evil robot. But I'll clear it up for you.
I feel that one of these two is an evil robot:
Davidmanman or Pieman, and that Inseln is also an evil robot.
more badassity right here
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 4:41 PM
Guys, I can't emphasize enough, when Ben says we're on the right track, we're on the right track. Don't over think things.
Anyway, based on all recent evidence, I'm inclined to think that Pieman is an evil robot.
Robosexual is obviously a robot, and Ben said that the most obvious is innocent.
Good call. "Think REALLY obvious" points to things like usernames. bllt's suspicion of Inseln as "really obvious" is no different than our suspicions of ryuuzaki or gordon.
You're overcomplicating things. Think "what does a male have that is a username", "what does virgin mean that is a role" It's simple if you make it simple.
ConCon=Innocent is a bit of a stretch since the penis thing isn't in his username anymore, but it does sound plausible.
31. Crabstick
Stick as in penis, as in something a male has? So is Crabstick innocent then?
Inseln
03-30-2008, 4:55 PM
Interesting theories JJ. And bllt, if I was a good robot and we've decided that, the reason I probably haven't been killed off yet is because I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed. They could believe that to be an asset. I’m not an evil robot. But you only have my word to go off so I don’t trust you all to believe that.
And if we go with the “Think obvious” clues, then we can assume that it has something to do with pie, due to the fact that on the first page I was talking about pie. That would be obvious.
We’ve also been emphasized by Ben to go with the phrase “They are quite the variety.”, and I don’t think we’ve quite figured that one out yet. Maybe it’s talking about the variety of pie I was talking about in the intro, I could have been metaphorically referring to people via nick names of pie. Which makes no sense to me if it's any consolation.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 4:59 PM
Good call. "Think REALLY obvious" points to things like usernames. bllt's suspicion of Inseln as "really obvious" is no different than our suspicions of ryuuzaki or gordon.
You never know, we haven't proven either not to be innocent.
And if we go with the “Think obvious” clues, then we can assume that it has something to do with pie, due to the fact that on the first page I was talking about pie. That would be obvious.
We’ve also been emphasized by Ben to go with the phrase “They are quite the variety.”, and I don’t think we’ve quite figured that one out yet. Maybe it’s talking about the variety of pie I was talking about in the intro, I could have been metaphorically referring to people via nick names of pie. Which makes no sense to me if it's any consolation.
Even more reason to suspect Pieman, good point. Going back to the beginning and what kind of Pie's robots like. I am beginning to feel that Pieman is the guilty one, not David.
Dauntasa
03-30-2008, 4:59 PM
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Inseln
03-30-2008, 5:02 PM
Dauntasa, the fact that I posted it, proves that.
Shut up and don't rub it in.....
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 5:03 PM
Obviously you haven't realized it yet, but Duantasa is a registered asshole.
read his avvy
Dauntasa
03-30-2008, 5:06 PM
Dauntasa, the fact that I posted it, proves that.
Shut up and don't rub it in.....
I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm quite obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Now, with that out of the way, I must say that I don't think the Bad Robots would be willing to take a risk like that unless they were a few cards short of a deck as well. I mean, they would have nothing to lose by taking you out. If you were a civilian, then that's 1-0 for the robots. If you were a stupid good robot, that's still a good robot they've killed. If you were a smart good robot, that's a large threat eliminated. Your defence is not logical, and I must therefore cast my vote for you, Inseln.
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 5:29 PM
We’ve also been emphasized by Ben to go with the phrase “They are quite the variety.”, and I don’t think we’ve quite figured that one out yet. Maybe it’s talking about the variety of pie I was talking about in the intro, I could have been metaphorically referring to people via nick names of pie. Which makes no sense to me if it's any consolation.
Overthinking things. The variety of pie already helped us when we googled the direct quote from the opening story. Let's keep this one simple, Ben said we're on the right track.
Bllt - true. But I'd rather follow the clues than our hunches. Innocent until proven guilty, at this point. Otherwise we'd kill too many innocents and sink ourselves.
I'm still leaning towards Pieman. Dauntasa made a very good point about Inseln's sketchy defense, and I agree, but quite frankly I don't trust Dauntasa enough to go in on this.
You know what, let's get this ball rolling, I cast my vote for Pieman.
MrDoctor
03-30-2008, 5:36 PM
I'm gonna cast my vote for pieman because all the evidence seems to point to him.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 5:43 PM
Quick question, if we kill pieman, and he turns out to be a good robot does that mean we are killing David next round?
(Notice, I have not voted, so don't take this as me voting for pieman)
Dauntasa
03-30-2008, 5:53 PM
Quick question, if we kill pieman, and he turns out to be a good robot does that mean we are killing David next round?
(Notice, I have not voted, so don't take this as me voting for pieman)
That depends on if we get clues that point out someone else or say that he is innocent.
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 7:00 PM
What reason do we have to suspect Davidmanman over Mirrorman? David's been helping with clues a lot. I wouldn't vote for him unless there was some real evidence. Dauntasa's right, it all depends on the new clues we get next round.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 7:07 PM
Because if you remember last game Josh, David was helping with a lot of clues, and guess what? He turned out to be a N.O.O.B. and his "clues" got me and you killed off. So I'm not so sure if his "clues" are really "clues." He just plays the good guy part real well. So I personally would suspect him over Mirrorman any day.
EDIT: For those of you who didn't play the last game, me and Josh were innocent civilians.
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 7:11 PM
I don't recall him getting me killed, but I died so early that I didn't care. I don't know, it's just a hunch, but everything will change next time Ben gives us a clue. I say we focus on Pieman for now, then see what happens.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 7:13 PM
Yeah, I agree. I feel strongest about Inseln and Pieman. But if Pieman were to end up being innocent, I think that David is guilty over Mirrorman.
Also I may have missed this, but do we know for sure that these three roles that Pieman, Davidmanman, and Mirrorman have are good bot, evil bot, and army? Could it possibly be that these three are good bot, civilian, and army? Because if that is the case, I know who I am voting for, because I do not want to risk choosing between 3 good guys.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 7:14 PM
Actually, Blltmssgy, last game I was a spirit, not a N.O.O.B. I pretty much play the same way every game, so if it seems similar to any past game, it is unintentional.
Blltmssgy: I can tell you with certainty that the roles are definitely not good bot, evil bot, and army.
Inseln
03-30-2008, 7:14 PM
I’m tempted to vote for Davidmanman, Pieman or Mirrorman but we don’t have any solid evidence… And although you vote for me, Dauntasa, I still feel loved by the fact that I have a quote put in your signature. Even if I do get voted out I’d know that it wouldn’t have been in vain, I know I’d have made a real difference to the world! Explosmers for years to come will look at that quote and go “That Inseln was a real character… *wipes a tear away from eye* we shall miss her…”
Anyway, enough of how far my head is up my arse. The only two votes we’ve got so far have been for myself and Pieman. I personally think that the votes for myself are on shakey ground and that Daun’s just a bad robot trying to start a bandwagon against myself, but I don’t have any evidence so I’m not suggesting anyone agree with me, but to just think about it.
We have 2 days of voting left am I right?
Shadowpriest
03-30-2008, 7:30 PM
Can anybody explain the past 3 pages to me?
Sorry i've been gone for the weekend and I'm totally lost... ill probably look at the story later, too late, gonna go to bed.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 7:38 PM
Also I may have missed this, but do we know for sure that these three roles that Pieman, Davidmanman, and Mirrorman have are good bot, evil bot, and army? Could it possibly be that these three are good bot, civilian, and army?
Blltmssgy: I can tell you with certainty that the roles are definitely not good bot, evil bot, and army.
Is that a Yes to my 2nd question? Because it was worded weird. If anyone else would care to answer that'd be great, because as of right now, the yes or no there determines my vote.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 7:43 PM
It is not a yes to your 2nd question. I don't know the answer to your 2nd question. But I do know that the answer to the 1st question is no.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 7:47 PM
Well if the answer to the first one is no, then in turn it would mean that the second question is possible. Which makes me feel really strongly about who I am going to cast my vote for, but I'm gonna wait for other's opinions on those two questions.
Inseln
03-30-2008, 8:06 PM
Okay, I don’t have a straight answer, but here’s my opinion. (Not that you’re all going to care but bllt did ask…) It can by any combination of the four options we have; good robot, bad robot, civ, army. To determine what combination now is fool hardy without further clues or evidence.
Benjaman
03-30-2008, 8:08 PM
It wouldn't really be a variety if "robot" was in there twice, would it?
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 8:22 PM
And I'm inclined to think that the robot is a bad robot, because he's not bringing home our bacon, so to speak.
So if we can take David's word:
Davidmanman - civilian
Mirrorman - army
Pieman - bad robot
Hmmm, lets see if we can get a specified clue before we go tossing votes around.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 8:28 PM
Well Ben now that you mention it, since it could be that those three are either:
bad bot, an army dude, and a civilian
or
good bot, an army dude, and a civilian
I don't like my chances with voting for Pieman, Davidmanman, or Mirrorman. It basically ends up being (correct my math if I am wrong), but a 1 in 9 chance we get a bad guy (that's 11%). I don't like those odds.
Also, Ben has been telling us that one of the roles is really obvious and he has also been telling us to look at the first pages. Hear me out here.
At the beginning we all suspected Inseln, but then all of a sudden we decided that he was a good robot. Could this be the obvious thing that he is talking about? Could Inseln be an evil robot?
This would not surprise me, because if we were right, and he was a good robot, the evil robots should have killed him off. If they had any suspicion that he had more powers than a civilian and other people felt that he did too, why not kill him off. It in no way gives away who they are.
So with that reasoning, and the fact that Inseln's reasoning against the evil robots killing him was really quite bad, I cast my vote for Inseln.
EDIT: My vote is tentative, but as of right now this is what it is.
Penguin_Of_Death
03-30-2008, 8:37 PM
I'd say one of the three is a bad robot. Both good robots and army are good so I'd assume one being a bad robot would make there be more of a variation.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 8:40 PM
P_O_D, Ben just said that there is only one robot in the grouping, leaving the other two as a civilian and an army guy. To assume that the last guy is a bad robot, and then to assume that the bad robot is Pieman, even though this is what I originally thought, is a 11% chance of being true. I personally don't like those odds. That's an 89% that if we kill Pieman we would be killing an innocent.
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 8:46 PM
Blltmssgy, your math is wrong. If we assume there is one evil robot, one in the army, and a civilian, as was pretty much confirmed by Benjamin, then you have a 33% chance. Although, that is only if you don't know anything about the other two, and it is likely that the chances are actually much greater.
blltmssgy
03-30-2008, 8:53 PM
No David, the thing is that Ben never ruled out the third guy being a good robot instead of an evil one. I'll put out a chart:
With Bad Guy in Group:
David: Army, Bad, Civ
Pie: Civ, Army, Bad
Mirror: Bad, Civ, Army
Assuming that there is a bad guy in the group, we only have a 1 in 9 chance that it is Pieman, now if we use what Ben said, and remember that the third guy can be a good robot instead of a bad one:
David: Good, Civ, Army
Pie: Army, Good, Civ
Mirror: Civ, Army, Good
Right there is 0 out of 9, add that to 1 out of 9, and out have a 1/18 th chance of getting the guess right. So I was wrong, we actually have a 5.56% of getting it right by voting for Pieman, or if we go by your reasoning, that someone in the group is evil, then it is the 11.11% chance.
EDIT: Even if it was 33% chance, I still don't like those chances, but I dislike 5.56% even more, which is why I haven't voted for any of you three. If difinitive evidence comes incriminating anyone, or proving Inseln's innocence, I'll change my vote, but as of right now, I think I have made the best choice possible.
MrDoctor
03-30-2008, 9:01 PM
I actually learned math from a forum, go me.
P_O_D, Ben just said that there is only one robot in the grouping, leaving the other two as a civilian and an army guy. To assume that the last guy is a bad robot, and then to assume that the bad robot is Pieman, even though this is what I originally thought, is a 11% chance of being true. I personally don't like those odds. That's an 89% that if we kill Pieman we would be killing an innocent.
Thats not saying the robot isn't a good one.
EDIT: FUCK Bllt, way to make me look like a copycat
davidmanman
03-30-2008, 9:27 PM
Bulletproof, it is 1/3 if you assume that there is an evil robot (and if there wasn't, then it wouldn't be much of a clue, now would it?). Each person had a 1/3 chance of being any of the jobs, not a 1/9. And the only thing that matters is the chance Pieman has of being an evil robot, which is, 33%. By my assumptions it is actually a lot higher than that because of knowledge I hold and or I have gained from reading clues.
jewishjosh
03-30-2008, 9:31 PM
This is an unexpected twist, math in a forum game. Fuck you, transitive property, for starting all this.
If one and only one is a robot, the other two are civilian and army.
Civilian, Army, Good Robot = 0/3 chance of killing a Bad Robot
Civilian, Army, Bad Robot = 1/3 chance
Presuming the chances of the robot in the grouping being good or bad is 50/50, statistically we have a 1/6 (17%) chance of killing a bad robot by arbitrarily voting for any of the three.
Throw in intangibles, like clue wording, post frequency, contributions to our cause, other clues, previous style of play, Ben's side notes, etc, and I'd consider it a safe bet to assume that there is a bad robot amongst the three, and right now it is most likely to be Pieman.
33% or 17% isn't great, but it's something. I'd rather work with a lead we have, and it's given me enough info not to abandon it in favour of Russian roulette tactics. Hunches can be useful, and you may turn out to be right, but personally I'd rather not base my decisions on hunches quite yet.
History
03-30-2008, 9:37 PM
You guys are confusing. Using small words and in a very simple way, can someone please explain to me how you are all so positive that the riddle points to the three people with man in their names?
Also, to point this out, Ben told us earlier that the "bring home the bacon" meant Got-Ham (gotham), so I think we might still be reading too much into it.
Bulletproof, it is 1/3 if you assume that there is an evil robot (and if there wasn't, then it wouldn't be much of a clue, now would it?). Each person had a 1/3 chance of being any of the jobs, not a 1/9. And the only thing that matters is the chance Pieman has of being an evil robot, which is, 33%. By my assumptions it is actually a lot higher than that because of knowledge I hold and or I have gained from reading clues.
Lets just hope we interpreted the clues right.
Benjaman
03-30-2008, 10:06 PM
Looks like you guys are getting pretty far. That's why you need AN EXTREMELY LONG WORD PUZZLLEEEE! It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical. 2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
redbayredneck
03-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Edit: Nevermind
Looks like you guys are getting pretty far. That's why you need AN EXTREMELY LONG WORD PUZZLLEEEE! It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical. 2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
Code..
lets see, last word is missing an M, for mechanical, I think.
I have a feeling that the voting for Inseln is an attempt by the bad guys to start a bandwagon. But also, I feel that Inseln is making the clues more confusing and his long rants are not helpful and annoying. I am therefore voting for Inseln because if he dies, and then ends up being innocent, at least the thread will be easier to read.
Knight of Cydonia
03-30-2008, 11:56 PM
Serious thats your reason GCBC. I can't be chose in this round. So much to read.
gordanthefree
03-31-2008, 12:31 AM
Wait, why the hell hasn't Pieman defended himself yet? Please stop casting votes until he does, and then mass spam them if he doesn't :D.
+1 GCBC my friend
Inseln
03-31-2008, 1:04 AM
Looks like you guys are getting pretty far. That's why you need AN EXTREMELY LONG WORD PUZZLLEEEE! It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical. 2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
Don't vote for me yet, we still have ages to decide and poll out votes!
Besides, I'll be unhappy :(
Has anyone here read Hellsing? Or seen it? If not, the word "alucardechanical" when put backwards is lacinahcdracula. If we speperate the word round about halfway through, we get another link to the batman clue. Dracula. Meaning bats, or it could mean something about exodus' old username. But I'm willing to go with the Dracula thing and here's my scientific word equation as to why.
Jeeze it's like school almost, maths and now science?!
Dracula = The original vampire.
Vampire => Bats
Bats = Batman.
And I'm sorry about my too long posts, Ben seemed to like them. I'll stop now I swear. But just a few more things.
"It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t"
I'm guessing it translates to something along the lines of
'The whisper act is of truth, is not proof that unsername has been found'
But then's only when you insanely play around with words.
No idea what the 2's and 10's are though...
gordanthefree
03-31-2008, 1:09 AM
So basically he isn't a Dracula GREAT work there Inseln. And when exactly did ben like your post size?
Inseln
03-31-2008, 1:13 AM
Ummm... He likes to know what we think, did you miss that post? I can't be bothered trying to go and find it. But it's here somewhere.
gordanthefree
03-31-2008, 1:15 AM
What we think: Inseln rants TOO much, pieman doesn't post or defend himself, davidmanman is suspicious because he isn't.
Inseln
03-31-2008, 1:18 AM
... Perfect, we have nothing to go off.
Pieman
03-31-2008, 2:14 AM
What we think: Inseln rants TOO much, pieman doesn't post or defend himself, davidmanman is suspicious because he isn't.
Wait, why didn't you include mirrorman in your rant?
I've had too many assignments, infact I should be building a small car right now. In the little I've read I've seen that a bandwagon against me is starting.
That sucks.
Ok now to business: I know lots about Dracula, call it a personal quirk.
Dracula is based of two people, Vlad the Impaler and Judas. Vlads real name was Vlad Dracul, Dracul meaning both Dragon and Devil. He added an A to the end so it meant 'Son of the Dragon/Devil. He was known for impaling people and soaking bread in their blood before eating it.
The Judas part is basically every weakness a vampire has. The weakness to silver relates to him selling out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. The sunlight thingy is because Judas hung himself at sunup shortly after he sold out Jesus. He was probably alergic to garlic or something, I don't know. The vampire fear of crosses obviously relates to the crusifix that he condemned Jesus too.
Probably has nothing to do with the clue but what the hell, it could.
The clue also mentions Alucard, a Vampire from some game I've never played, and can't remember the name of.
gordanthefree
03-31-2008, 3:00 AM
Didn't include mirrorman because I didn't know why he was under suspicion in the first place.
Pieman
03-31-2008, 3:07 AM
Well, he fits the -man criteria and was also suspected before but that was dismissed as a red herring.
A ROBOTIC RED HERRING!
gordanthefree
03-31-2008, 3:14 AM
Show me evidences, then I'll add to my rants.
Pieman
03-31-2008, 3:18 AM
ITs mostly because of the Cpt. Beefy song entitled 'Mirrorman'.
It was said to be either a fake clue or a coincidence. How come I'm suspected more than this guy?
Inseln
03-31-2008, 3:30 AM
The fact that I was takling about Pie, and you have man in your name. Amazingly that's enough to convict someone. DID ANYONE ACTUALLY SEE HIM DO THE CRIME?!
There's white because I'm joining the white text band wagon.
Well, technically Dracula is a "bat-man".
I wonder, if we can figure out what the code means, and add the missing letters together, we get what? And what about the numbers?
ryuuzaki
03-31-2008, 7:33 AM
Code..
lets see, last word is missing an M, for mechanical, I think.
If you do add an M to it you can spell Mechanical Dracula and if you split dracula into two parts you get Exodus' old username Dr.acula so I beleive this might imply that Exodus is a robot. (good or bad).
Robo_Sexual
03-31-2008, 9:06 AM
I think the code says something more along the lines of Dr. Acula not being a robot.
Observe.
The truth is a fellow by the name of Dr Acula is not of the prof. that indeed that mechanical user
Now this is just after finding the switched around words and letters. I think 'prof' is short for 'proffession.' So, Dr Acula/Exodus is NOT in the proffession of the mechanical user. ((Which is still probably either Pieman, Mirrorman, or Davidmanman. Also - this clue is for a MECHANICAL user, but still does not say whether that user is good or bad robot.))
PS: Here's the bit I didn't figure out. It isper act of " 2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10” No ideas there.
Demoir
03-31-2008, 10:04 AM
Isn't 2^(10x10) called a Googleplex or somesuch?
Pig Fucker
03-31-2008, 10:10 AM
Isn't 2^(10x10) called a Googleplex or somesuch?
A googolplex is 10^(10^100). A googol, on the other hand, is 10^100, or 10^(10^2). So, based on that, I think that the numbers at the end (being 10 tens and a 2) are telling us we need to Google something, I'm just not sure what. Good work on thinking of that, Deimor.
Benjaman
03-31-2008, 2:42 PM
For the "2_10_10_10, etc.", try separating the word problem.
Exodus
03-31-2008, 2:48 PM
I'm voting for Inseln because the fact that I'm showing up in a clue and I know that I'm a good guy, I'm guessing it means all of my suspicions of inseln that I've previously posted were correct.
It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical.
It/isper truth/ act is of t a f/ ellowhe name/ of is not mof the p/ rothat the f/ indeed tha u/ ser by t "aluc/ ardechanic/ al
Thats the sentenced broke up by 2, then 10s... Doesn't seem right.
2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
EDIT: Tossing through an anagram machine.
isper truth (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=isper+truth&t=1000)
--
act is of t a f (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=act+is+of+t+a+f&t=1000)
---
ellowhe name (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ellowhe+name&t=1000)
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of is not mof the p (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=of+is+not+mof+the+p&t=1000)
----
rothat the f (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=rothat+the+f&t=1000)
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indeed tha u (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=indeed+tha+u&t=1000)
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ser by t "aluc (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ser+by+t+%22aluc&t=1000)
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ardechanic (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ardechanic&t=1000)
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Then Al and it tacked on at the end. Prolly no significance, however. (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=al+it&t=1000)
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 3:12 PM
I think the separating has to do with inserting certain letters at certain points, just can't figure out where.
Pig Fucker
03-31-2008, 3:25 PM
It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical.
It/isper truth/ act is of t a f/ ellowhe name/ of is not mof the p/ rothat the f/ indeed tha u/ ser by t "aluc/ ardechanic/ al
Thats the sentenced broke up by 2, then 10s... Doesn't seem right.
2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
What if you started at "is" and used all the characters?
It is/per truth /act is of /t a fellow/he name of/" is not m/of the pro/that the f/indeed tha/ user by t/ "alucarde/chanical.
Then if you rearrange the separated parts (and for the last section you put in the e from the second to last section. Did you make a slight mistake Ben?)
You get (It is)(of the pro)(per truth )(that the f)(act is of)(indeed tha)(t a fellow)(user by t)(he name of)("alucard)(" is not m)(echanical.)
So I'm going to go out there and say Exodus is innocent or army.
What if you started at "is" and used all the characters?
It is/per truth /act is of /t a fellow/he name of/" is not m/of the pro/that the f/indeed tha/ user by t/ "alucarde/chanical.
Then if you rearrange the separated parts (and for the last section you put in the e from the second to last section. Did you make a slight mistake Ben?)
You get (It is)(of the pro)(per truth )(that the f)(act is of)(indeed tha)(t a fellow)(user by t)(he name of)("alucard)(" is not m)(echanical.)
So I'm going to go out there and say Exodus is innocent or army.
Nice one Pig, that means maybe Exodus is good.
Dauntasa
03-31-2008, 3:34 PM
It isper truth act is of t a fellowhe name of" is not mof the prothat the findeed tha user by t "alucardechanical.
It/isper truth/ act is of t a f/ ellowhe name/ of is not mof the p/ rothat the f/ indeed tha u/ ser by t "aluc/ ardechanic/ al
Thats the sentenced broke up by 2, then 10s... Doesn't seem right.
2_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10_10
EDIT: Tossing through an anagram machine.
isper truth (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=isper+truth&t=1000)
--
act is of t a f (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=act+is+of+t+a+f&t=1000)
---
ellowhe name (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ellowhe+name&t=1000)
---
of is not mof the p (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=of+is+not+mof+the+p&t=1000)
----
rothat the f (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=rothat+the+f&t=1000)
---
indeed tha u (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=indeed+tha+u&t=1000)
----
ser by t "aluc (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ser+by+t+%22aluc&t=1000)
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ardechanic (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=ardechanic&t=1000)
---
Then Al and it tacked on at the end. Prolly no significance, however. (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=al+it&t=1000)
Alit could mean alliteration.
EDIT:And if it does then I think it points to Jewish Josh.
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 3:39 PM
Don't see how that points to JJ at all, but I think that Pig Fucker cracked the code correctly. Nice job.
davidmanman
03-31-2008, 3:46 PM
Dauntasa, you seem really quick to make something in to a clue.
green rubber bands
03-31-2008, 4:30 PM
Dauntasa, you seem really quick to make something in to a clue.
You seem really quick to throw superficial accusations.
Shadowpriest
03-31-2008, 4:46 PM
Wow thanks for explaining all that to me guys... :indiff:
Im never leaving for the weekend again till next week.
Edit: Ok I just read the update and im confused... why did Spiffy save GRB? (thats all im going to say this round because I started reading the first page after the update, and there's NO way im going to read another two pages of shit leading you apparently nowhere from what I can see.
Dauntasa
03-31-2008, 4:55 PM
Don't see how that points to JJ at all, but I think that Pig Fucker cracked the code correctly. Nice job.
Jewish Josh is an alliteration because both words start with the same letter.
Dammit Dauntasa, you recognized a possible clue way too fast. You must be a robot! Only they have the processing power to think that fast!
Do I even need to defend myself here?
davidmanman
03-31-2008, 5:19 PM
Pig Fucker gets the words to form a coherent sentence which gives likely innocence to someone, and you, within 10 minutes, try to make it so that Jewish Josh is guilty, using 4letters out of a clue. That, in my opinion, does need defense.
Dauntasa
03-31-2008, 5:21 PM
Pig Fucker gets the words to form a coherent sentence which gives likely innocence to someone, and you, within 10 minutes, try to make it so that Jewish Josh is guilty, using 4letters out of a clue. That, in my opinion, does need defense.
Am I voting for him? Is anyone else voting for him? Did I say he was a Robot? No. All I said was "Hey, I wonder if this is a clue?" and you jumped at the chance to make me look like a robot.
Benjaman
03-31-2008, 5:21 PM
What if you started at "is" and used all the characters?
It is/per truth /act is of /t a fellow/he name of/" is not m/of the pro/that the f/indeed tha/ user by t/ "alucarde/chanical.
Then if you rearrange the separated parts (and for the last section you put in the e from the second to last section. Did you make a slight mistake Ben?)
You get (It is)(of the pro)(per truth )(that the f)(act is of)(indeed tha)(t a fellow)(user by t)(he name of)("alucard)(" is not m)(echanical.)
So I'm going to go out there and say Exodus is innocent or army.
Woops, maybe I did mess up. :shobon: rrchergjtdehvgoseqmelwinopedrn
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 5:37 PM
Well, that tell's us that Pig's version of the is the right one.
badumpbumpbump
03-31-2008, 6:09 PM
I have a feeling that the voting for Inseln is an attempt by the bad guys to start a bandwagon. But also, I feel that Inseln is making the clues more confusing and his long rants are not helpful and annoying. I am therefore voting for Inseln because if he dies, and then ends up being innocent, at least the thread will be easier to read.
If you really think that Inseln is being bandwagoned, why are you voting for him? It's not like he's shitting up the thread or anything, just being idiotic.
EDIT: Her.
Benjaman
03-31-2008, 6:11 PM
If you really think that Inseln is being bandwagoned, why are you voting for him? It's not like he's shitting up the thread or anything, just being idiotic.
Here's another clue: Inseln is, in fact, a girl.
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 6:30 PM
Male or female, I still see no reason to change my vote.
Crabstick
03-31-2008, 7:19 PM
Ok, this may seem extremely whack, but that's how my brain works.
Referring back to the Spiderman and the Hulk conversations of 2 pages ago, there's a song by Australian comedy outfit Tripod, called "Hot Girl in the Comic Shop" (lyrics (http://members.optushome.com.au/pennywyatt/Interests/Tripod/SkitHouse/SkitHouse03.html)). In it they refer to a fight between Spidey and the Hulk.
They're quite well known in Aussieland (by memory, Ben's an Aussie). There's 3 different ways this could go. The name tripod (obviously, three) could be the person listed #3 on the game list (JJ), someone with three letters in their name (BKS). Neither seem as likely as the other possibility, Triple J.
Triple J is a radio station here in Aus that used to feature Tripod on a weekly stint, in fact it's where I first heard this song.
There, told you it was whack. No idea what role it may be referring to though.
ConCon=Innocent is a bit of a stretch since the penis thing isn't in his username anymore, but it does sound plausible.
31. Crabstick
Stick as in penis, as in something a male has? So is Crabstick innocent then?
Yup, no doubt this clue was pointing to my having a penis.
Benjaman
03-31-2008, 7:26 PM
Ok, this may seem extremely whack, but that's how my brain works.
Referring back to the Spiderman and the Hulk conversations of 2 pages ago, there's a song by Australian comedy outfit Tripod, called "Hot Girl in the Comic Shop" (lyrics (http://members.optushome.com.au/pennywyatt/Interests/Tripod/SkitHouse/SkitHouse03.html)). In it they refer to a fight between Spidey and the Hulk.
They're quite well known in Aussieland (by memory, Ben's an Aussie). There's 3 different ways this could go. The name tripod (obviously, three) could be the person listed #3 on the game list (JJ), someone with three letters in their name (BKS). Neither seem as likely as the other possibility, Triple J.
Triple J is a radio station here in Aus that used to feature Tripod on a weekly stint, in fact it's where I first heard this song.
There, told you it was whack. No idea what role it may be referring to though.
Yup, no doubt this clue was pointing to my having a penis.
This is a really well planned out train of thought. Except one thing: In USA I was born, in USA I am, and I have no idea what the FUCK you are talking about.
jewishjosh
03-31-2008, 7:33 PM
I'm withdrawing my vote for Pieman for now.
I'm not really into this today, so I'm just gonna throw out that my suspicions of Dauntasa are greater than ever.
Inseln
03-31-2008, 7:39 PM
I always found it funny how you always refered to me as a male, but I could never be bothered to correct any of you...
And crabstick, that would only work if I was a hot girl, I've never been to a comic store and I don't listen to tripple J... By the way and being completely off topic.. Did you see tripod on the comedy gala last night? That was hilarious :P
"Here's another clue: Inseln is, in fact, a girl."
What has that got to do with anything?
Exodus, I wasn't implying anything, I just mentioned that your old user name was in there. Everyone else cleared you of being inncocent and I agree with them. I wasn't trying to start a band wagon against you nor make everyone assume you were in the wrong.
And everyone else: Interesting trains of though, who's pulling up at a bandwagon station?
davidmanman
03-31-2008, 7:47 PM
It's strange too, since nobody really has much of a basis in their belief that you are an evil robot. Who actually started the bangwagon?
Inseln
03-31-2008, 7:48 PM
And you think you're confuesed... Try being bandwagoned against just because you ranted about the clues, trying to help everyone out...
What's the evidence against me compared to everyone else?
Exodus
03-31-2008, 8:04 PM
And you think you're confuesed... Try being bandwagoned against just because you ranted about the clues, trying to help everyone out...
What's the evidence against me compared to everyone else?
Your favorite type of pie and the fact you weren't killed in the first round after being cleared as a helpful character to the innocents.
davidmanman
03-31-2008, 8:05 PM
Now, with that out of the way, I must say that I don't think the Bad Robots would be willing to take a risk like that unless they were a few cards short of a deck as well. I mean, they would have nothing to lose by taking you out. If you were a civilian, then that's 1-0 for the robots. If you were a stupid good robot, that's still a good robot they've killed. If you were a smart good robot, that's a large threat eliminated. Your defence is not logical, and I must therefore cast my vote for you, Inseln.
I'm still not even sure if this makes sense. That was the first vote cast for you.
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 8:11 PM
Here, I'll explain it for you. She was the first person we figured to be a robot, but we quickly dismissed her as a good robot.
So that leaves the evil robots with an easy choice, kill her and find out that she is a good robot, and if so that's good for them, one good robot down, if she ends up being a civilian or an army, that's still good for her. The evil robots had no reason what so ever not to kill her off the first round. But instead of doing that they chose Dresden.
Also I think she is the person the "obvious" clue points out, because in the opening story clues basically say she is a robot, and we missed the fact that she is evil.
I had brought this up and then Dauntasa for those reasons, plus Inseln's really crappy defense voted for her. I waited until I came to the conclusion that it is a possibility that the poem points out three good guys, and I don't want to take that risk. Then I placed my voted for Inseln because I felt that she is the most guilty, and that the clues and (in)actions of the evil robots point to her.
Exodus
03-31-2008, 8:14 PM
I'm still not even sure if this makes sense. That was the first vote cast for you.
How does that not make sense? If the bad robots knew who a crucial person to the innocents was, they would eliminate them as soon as possible.
Dauntasa
03-31-2008, 8:18 PM
I'm withdrawing my vote for Pieman for now.
I'm not really into this today, so I'm just gonna throw out that my suspicions of Dauntasa are greater than ever.
Why exactly are you suspicious of me?
davidmanman
03-31-2008, 8:20 PM
You do realize that evil robots vote the way they do for a reason. When someone is not killed, it could be their purpose to cause confusion and have us kill an innocent. So I would never base my vote upon who the evil robots killed.
The obvious clue? Was that the one that said that the obviously guilty are innocent? Or was there something else?
There isn't much of a way to provide your own defense in the game other than saying something like, I helped with clues, or something like that. So having a not so intelligible defense of yourself pretty much comes with the territory of the game.
One more counterpoint. I really don't consider it a possibility that the poem would not include one bad person as then it wouldn't be a clue. We had to have some clue to point out an evil robot and that was it.
Edit: Exodus, why would the evil robots bother killing them when they can have we civilians vote for and kill them.
blltmssgy
03-31-2008, 8:22 PM
I'm just justifying my vote, and I see no reason to change. You've justified your choice, and that's fine.
EDIT: David, the first round there was no push to vote for Inseln, that's when we are curious why they didn't kill her.
Exodus
03-31-2008, 8:26 PM
I'm just justifying my vote, and I see no reason to change. You've justified your choice, and that's fine.
Same here.
If you really think that Inseln is being bandwagoned, why are you voting for him? It's not like he's shitting up the thread or anything, just being idiotic.
EDIT: Her.
14 paragraph long posts rambling with random train of thoughts is not helpful especially when nothing makes sense, it makes the thread hard to read (check shadowpriest's response saying he's not going to bother reading through pages of bullshit), and while I am not 100 percent sure that Inseln is guilty, I am not sure that SHE is innocent either. I think it's interesting that her location is bat related as well, although this is also a stretch. My vote went to her because I think it's a 50/50 chance and I think that while getting rid of another bad robot would be ideal, if she ends up innocent and dead that it might make the game easier to follow and more bearable to read after not being on for a day. Also, her defenses of herself have been kind of half assed, and if you look back, Spiffy's were like that too, because he knew he was guilty.
Dauntasa
03-31-2008, 9:30 PM
14 paragraph long posts rambling with random train of thoughts is not helpful especially when nothing makes sense, it makes the thread hard to read, (REALLY FUCKING LONG POST THAT HURT MY EYES TO READ)
DieHard
03-31-2008, 9:36 PM
ATTENTION
Another reminder showing that the round will end tomorrow at 3:30 PM, have all your votes and PMs in by then.
Pig Fucker
03-31-2008, 9:38 PM
Here's another clue: Inseln is, in fact, a girl.
You know this could be an actual clue, and if it is, I'd say it points to Inseln being bad. If you couple this with the "male virgin" clue a little while back, it points out that male is associated with innocence. By pointing out that Inseln is a girl, he could be saying she isn't innocent.
Now, before people misunderstand me, I'm NOT saying the girls are robots. I AM saying Inseln could be a robot because Ben pointed out that she is a girl.
You know this could be an actual clue, and if it is, I'd say it points to Inseln being bad. If you couple this with the "male virgin" clue a little while back, it points out that male is associated with innocence. By pointing out that Inseln is a girl, he could be saying she isn't innocent.
Now, before people misunderstand me, I'm NOT saying the girls are robots. I AM saying Inseln could be a robot because Ben pointed out that she is a girl.
Maybe, maybe looking to deeply into it. Everyone referred to her as he, so he may have just been clarifying.
DieHard
03-31-2008, 9:46 PM
You know this could be an actual clue, and if it is, I'd say it points to Inseln being bad. If you couple this with the "male virgin" clue a little while back, it points out that male is associated with innocence. By pointing out that Inseln is a girl, he could be saying she isn't innocent.
Now, before people misunderstand me, I'm NOT saying the girls are robots. I AM saying Inseln could be a robot because Ben pointed out that she is a girl.
Just to point this out, a lot of stuff Ben says is a clue.
Maharanis Giants
redbayredneck
03-31-2008, 9:50 PM
Voting for Inseln
Pig Fucker
03-31-2008, 9:50 PM
Just to point this out, a lot of stuff Ben says is a clue.
Maharanis Giants
Well, there's something else we can use.
Maharanis (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/maharanis) -
1. The wife of a maharajah.
2. A princess in India ranking above a rani, especially the sovereign ruler of one of the former native states.
3. Used as a title for such a woman.
I'll edit this when I find more.
Actually, no I won't. It's late, I'll leave this for other people to think about.
DieHard
03-31-2008, 10:06 PM
Well, there's something else we can use.
Maharanis (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/maharanis) -
1. The wife of a maharajah.
2. A princess in India ranking above a rani, especially the sovereign ruler of one of the former native states.
3. Used as a title for such a woman.
I'll edit this when I find more.
Actually, no I won't. It's late, I'll leave this for other people to think about.
You sure? It may be easier than you think
A Anathemas Hiring Rots
Pig Fucker
03-31-2008, 10:28 PM
You sure? It may be easier than you think
A Anathemas Hiring Rots
I'm good. If no one's gotten them by morning I'll work on them, but until then I need some sleep.
Robo_Sexual
03-31-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm pretty sure this whole push for Inselm is just a plot the Bad Robots have come up with to make us vote off one of our own. It really seems like they're trying to get a bandwagon going, by casting doubt on the other clues.
In my opinion, Inseln's a stupid choice, especially since we still have all of that stuff from the "man" clue to work out. That is important. And it is more solid than saying "OMG THE BAD ROBOTS WOULD HAVE KILLED INSELN IF SHE WAS REALLY A GOOD ROBOT!~!! SHE'S STILL ALIVE!!! MOB VOTE!!"
Oh by the way.
"Maharani Giants" is an anagram for "This is an Anagram."
"A Anathemas Hiring Rots" --> "This is another anagram."
History
03-31-2008, 11:35 PM
I am voting for BKS this round. The clues we have "found" are going nowhere. I originally thought that Inseln was guilty, but now I'm not so sure due to the fact that this is her first game (yep, blaming "newbish" status). I am voting for BKS because he admitted to being a "bad guy" last game and he is playing this one in a similar way. For instance, disregarding a clue that has obviously been solved (This game being GCBC cracking the Spiffy clue, and last game the aiden c clue). Honestly, I feel like he is trying to mislead us. To BKS: I know you will have a good defense for yourself, and if I am wrong I'm sorry for accusing you, but I'll be suspicious of you until we know for sure.
DieHard
03-31-2008, 11:59 PM
I'm pretty sure this whole push for Inselm is just a plot the Bad Robots have come up with to make us vote off one of our own. It really seems like they're trying to get a bandwagon going, by casting doubt on the other clues.
In my opinion, Inseln's a stupid choice, especially since we still have all of that stuff from the "man" clue to work out. That is important. And it is more solid than saying "OMG THE BAD ROBOTS WOULD HAVE KILLED INSELN IF SHE WAS REALLY A GOOD ROBOT!~!! SHE'S STILL ALIVE!!! MOB VOTE!!"
Oh by the way.
"Maharani Giants" is an anagram for "This is an Anagram."
"A Anathemas Hiring Rots" --> "This is another anagram."
Wow, you got those pretty fast. I may need to work better on these things. (A Singletrees Morphs Moo.this may be the only clue I ever give out)
GWGOUL LHKJY
I'm pretty sure this whole push for Inselm is just a plot the Bad Robots have come up with to make us vote off one of our own. It really seems like they're trying to get a bandwagon going, by casting doubt on the other clues.
In my opinion, Inseln's a stupid choice, especially since we still have all of that stuff from the "man" clue to work out. That is important. And it is more solid than saying "OMG THE BAD ROBOTS WOULD HAVE KILLED INSELN IF SHE WAS REALLY A GOOD ROBOT!~!! SHE'S STILL ALIVE!!! MOB VOTE!!"
Oh by the way.
"Maharani Giants" is an anagram for "This is an Anagram."
"A Anathemas Hiring Rots" --> "This is another anagram."
Or maybe you are a bad robot trying to stick up for another bad robot.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 12:15 AM
OKay, I just went through and edited my posts. I have half arsed defense because I'm not used to thinking my way out of a situation. (That makes me sound dumb, wow I am an idiot.)
Not to mention you all seem pretty adamant about me being bad and all. You must have a thing for bandwagons.
Redneck you didn't even say why you were voting, you just jumped the bandwagon. I'm thinking that's pretty suspicious.
And my location is an Avenged Sevenfold song... I actually live in Australia...
And for the record, my favourite type of pie is meat pie, with tomatoe sauce, a stubby and an AFL game... I ldon't even know what the hell 'Boston Cream' pie or 'lemon meringue' pie is...
Thankl you for sticking up for me Robo Sexual and Davidmanman, and for half sticking up for me BKS. And history? THANK YOU. Someone is finally taking me seriously.
redbayredneck
04-01-2008, 12:21 AM
Inseln, I looked at the clues and the arguments; then I decided to vote for you. It wasn't just bandwagoning.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 12:24 AM
You could have said that...
Dresden
04-01-2008, 12:28 AM
And my location is an Avenged Sevenfold song... I actually live in Australia...
Sorry, I know I'm dead, won't post again, just saying...
I would've guessed you were referring to Fear and Loathing with that location.
That's all.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 12:33 AM
Yeah, that's where they got the idea of the song. I managed to read halfway through that book before deciding it was far too trippy to read...
ryuuzaki
04-01-2008, 1:48 AM
Sorry, I know I'm dead, won't post again, just saying...
I would've guessed you were referring to Fear and Loathing with that location.
That's all.
I understand you were just talking about something unrelated to the game but please don't post here when you're dead.
Also I think it's awsome that we got a bad robot last round and I hope we get another this round. I'm voting for Inseln but I still have suspicions towards Dauntasa he just seems to dissapear and when he returns he quickly casts his vote and leaves.
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 1:54 AM
I am not voting this round, not enough information to actually vote against a true robot.
If we die, can we PM people on who we think is a robot and shit?
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 1:59 AM
If we die, can we PM people on who we think is a robot and shit?
Dunno bout everyone else, but I don't usually take advice from people who lose in the 2nd round. Generally means they suck.
I'm find MrDoctor rather supicious. Mostly because of this post:
Holyshit I go to sleep for one night and you guys write a book on batman and pie. Any way I'm liking the three user name clue but it's only speculation right now, so now voting yet.
Bolded it for effect etc etc. The post in itself makes sense, but then 9 hours later he posts this:
I'm gonna cast my vote for pieman because all the evidence seems to point to him.
From seemingly conservative to trying to create/add momentum to a bandwagon? Dunno what evidence he was referring to, but he made that post just after JJ voted for Pieman too. Two bad guys working together methinks, why else would he have followed JJ's lead and voted? I'm yet to see any hard evidence at all, so I'm going off my suspicions.
Voting for MrDoctor
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:01 AM
Wow, people are trying to start band wagons everywhere... And on the most shake grounds too. Here's an idea, we still have a while, so why don't we actually go over the evidence for who suspected?
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 2:10 AM
Wow, people are trying to start band wagons everywhere... And on the most shake grounds too. Here's an idea, we still have a while, so why don't we actually go over the evidence for who suspected?
Because then we'll end up exactly where we are. If people have been paying attention, they'll know who's suspect. The truth of the matter is we don't have hard evidence, so all we have to go on is suspicions.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:18 AM
Oh joy. So I'm being voted for because I was talking about pie in the intro. Pieman's being voted for because he has pie in his name, BKS is being voted for due to his clues about pie.
What's ironic is the biggest fight ever to happen at my school was started because someone dropped his pie...
It all boils down to the pie, should we get rid of the pie maybe?
Pieman
04-01-2008, 2:19 AM
Could someone find how many votes are in, and who they're for? Don't have time to go though 5 pages of crap and inseln to count them.
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 2:20 AM
So I'm being voted for because I was talking about pie in the intro.
Actually, Ryuuzaki hasn't given a reason for voting for you.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:21 AM
Joy. He'll probably say something about Pie though. I bet you...
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 2:29 AM
So basically you don't add any evidence and you don't contribute, what was the point of your last post?
CONTRIBUTION: Mr.Doctor also seemed a little suspicious to me because he sent me a weird PM saying he was a good bot. Don't think that was a good idea to post that, but since it is nearly the end of the round...
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:30 AM
Why did he do that? And what do you mean by weird? Post it here or forward it to us?
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 2:34 AM
Could someone find how many votes are in, and who they're for? Don't have time to go though 5 pages of crap and inseln to count them.
I voted for MrDoctor (1 total)
Ryuuzaki, bllllllllltsguy and Dauntasa, GCBC and Exodus voted for Inseln (5 total)
JJ and MrDoctor voted for Pieman (2 total)
Why did he do that? And what do you mean by weird? Post it here or forward it to us?
No, posting screenshots fucks up the game.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:37 AM
Well then forward it to me then. I'm quite curious as to what it said.
ryuuzaki
04-01-2008, 2:38 AM
Ok I'm gonna withdraw my vote for Inseln I want to see this PM to, it might be good evidence.
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 2:38 AM
Exactly what I thought, and it would end up either banning me or killing me.
EDIT: but due to popular demand: yo i know your an innocent. I happen to be a good robot and every round i get to do a backround check on one person. I did you the first round. So now we can work together. And next round ill do a backround check on somebody and we can slowly figure outs who's good and work together with all the people i find out to win the game.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:42 AM
There's no reason why that should kill you. And you're right, it is weird. Think he's just a bad robot trying to get you to post up fake solutions to Ben's clues so we can all be lead astray?
It's pretty Goddamned suspicious to me...
EDIT: Crabstick I'm starting to agree with you about MrDoctor acting suspicious.
ryuuzaki
04-01-2008, 2:44 AM
That is REALLY suspicious mostly because Diehard and Ben never said anything about people being able to do that. I think I will vote for MrDoctor
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 2:46 AM
Good thing I posted it then. Sorry if you actually are a good robot
Ben, can you please tell us if we kill of a goody?
ryuuzaki
04-01-2008, 2:50 AM
I'm sure he won't tell us until he's already dead if he's good or not.
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 2:52 AM
That is what I meant. And is that post going to band wagon against Mr. Doctor? If it is, I'll vote for him. NOT OFFICIAL!!!!!1!
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:53 AM
He will in the update, now, I'm thoroughly convinced that MrDoctor is a bad robot trying to gain an innocent's trust to kead the rest of us astray. (Gordon you may have been annoying before the official thread was started, but I believe you're an innocent. ) I'm going to say that's soild proof for me and I'm voting for MrDoctor. He's acting more suspicious than we've seen so far too.
Inseln+Gordon friendship +1?
EDIT: Gordon, you might as well join the bandwagon...
Exodus
04-01-2008, 2:55 AM
That is REALLY suspicious mostly because Diehard and Ben never said anything about people being able to do that. I think I will vote for MrDoctor
Did he say ANYTHING about what the good bots abilitys are? What would be the point of having good bots if they can't do anything? It is a possibility that that is what good bots do and gordan just fucked him over.
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 2:55 AM
*leaves bandwagon*
EDIT: *withdraws vote*
Just read Exodus's vote.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 2:58 AM
Exodus, if you look over the evidence then you'll understand why we're voting for him. It's okay, you don't have to like it or agree with us....
Knight of Cydonia
04-01-2008, 3:01 AM
Hmm. I always have seen Mr Doctor as a suspect. It's a hard choice for me because like a few of you I also suspect Duntasa. Inseln doesn't look to bad from my perspective but maybe I don't see it like you guys. Anyway Mr Doctor gets my vote.
gordanthefree
04-01-2008, 3:01 AM
Ok, but don't blame me if we kill an innocent by mistake :C
vote= Mr.Doctor because of that PM he sent me.
off for the night, please don't write 2 1/2 pages by tomorrow (10.02 pm here)
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 3:03 AM
Exodus, if you look over the evidence then you'll understand why we're voting for him. It's okay, you don't have to like it or agree with us....
Actually, I was to first to vote for him and not because of evidence. That's my point, we don't have evidence. I'm doing it on a hunch, you should make up your own mind rather than bandwagon.
Exodus
04-01-2008, 3:03 AM
Originally Posted by MrDoctor View Post
Holyshit I go to sleep for one night and you guys write a book on batman and pie. Any way I'm liking the three user name clue but it's only speculation right now, so now voting yet.
Bolded it for effect etc etc. The post in itself makes sense, but then 9 hours later he posts this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDoctor View Post
I'm gonna cast my vote for pieman because all the evidence seems to point to him.
None of you think its possible that in 9 HOURS a person can make up their mind from pages of evidence? And how do we know that good bots dont have contact with each other? It's possible someone else ran a background check on pieman and let the others know.
Actually, I was to first to vote for him and not because of evidence. That's my point, we don't have evidence. I'm doing it on a hunch, you should make up your own mind rather than bandwagon.
Exactly. I have a feeling inseln is just trying to get attention off herself and start a bandwagon.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 3:05 AM
My evidence is the PM sent to Gordon. And we won't blame you Gordon.. You're fine..
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 3:08 AM
None of you think its possible that in 9 HOURS a person can make up their mind from pages of evidence? And how do we know that good bots dont have contact with each other? It's possible someone else ran a background check on pieman and let the others know.
Only possible when there's already evidence to begin with. There wasn't.
Exactly. I have a feeling inseln is just trying to get attention off herself and start a bandwagon.
Not discounting it as a possibility.
EDIT: Slow down on the posting BTW folks, this is the reason people are getting lost. Edit old posts rather than making new ones all the time.
EDIT #2:
I always have seen Mr Doctor as a suspect.
Care to elaborate?
Inseln
04-01-2008, 3:12 AM
We shall remember about the editing thing... But also, if you notice, Ryuuzaki voted before me... So therefore I didn't start that bandwagon.
EDIT: I'm off, it's dinner time. Good luck all!
EDIT: but due to popular demand: PM from Mr Doctor
You guys and your god damn screen shots and your god damn quoting other people and all that shit. Here's another game that is going to be ruined because you are all too fucking stupid to fucking play the game the way it's meant to be played.
Good thing I posted it then. Sorry if you actually are a good robot
Ben, can you please tell us if we kill of a goody?
You're a fucking moron.
He will in the update, now, I'm thoroughly convinced that MrDoctor is a bad robot trying to gain an innocent's trust to kead the rest of us astray. (Gordon you may have been annoying before the official thread was started, but I believe you're an innocent. ) I'm going to say that's soild proof for me and I'm voting for MrDoctor. He's acting more suspicious than we've seen so far too.
Inseln+Gordon friendship +1?
EDIT: Gordon, you might as well join the bandwagon...
Way to go on getting the bandwagon off you
Did he say ANYTHING about what the good bots abilitys are? What would be the point of having good bots if they can't do anything? It is a possibility that that is what good bots do and gordan just fucked him over.
They PM the people running the game and can ask once per round what the role of the person they suspect is and then warn everyone about the evil people. For example, I asked last round what Mirrorman is, and he's in the Army. That's why I kept trying to tell you people to not vote for him as an evil robot.
Hmm. I always have seen Mr Doctor as a suspect.
No you haven't, you are just continuing on the bandwagon because you are prolly a bad robot too. Or an idiot.
Ok, but don't blame me if we kill an innocent by mistake :C
vote= Mr.Doctor because of that PM he sent me.
Again, you're a fucking idiot. You are the one who condemned him to death. We will blame you, either way.
Exactly. I have a feeling inseln is just trying to get attention off herself and start a bandwagon.
Sounds feasible and very likely to me.
I hope I get killed off soon. I should have known from the sign up threads that you people would be infuriating to play a game with. :mad:
Crabstick
04-01-2008, 3:40 AM
Given the fact that good robots apparently can find out someone's status, changing my vote to Inseln.
Because I want to.
Pieman
04-01-2008, 4:02 AM
Personally I'm not sure about the PM. I'm not voting (Just incase its legit)for him, or anyone else for that matter this round. But thanks for the count ;D
EDIT: I just noticed something, he says he gets to check someone. It sounds as if he's independant, but we know that there is more than 1 good robot. Straw that broke the camels back, so I'm going against what I said just recently and voting Mr Doctor
Personally I'm not sure about the PM. I'm not voting (Just incase its legit)for him, or anyone else for that matter this round. But thanks for the count ;D
EDIT: I just noticed something, he says he gets to check someone. It sounds as if he's independant, but we know that there is more than 1 good robot. Straw that broke the camels back, so I'm going against what I said just recently and voting Mr Doctor
Good robots don't know who each other are, unless they happen to ask about them in one of their rounds. You're making stupid assumptions. Looks like you are a bad robot. Now we know who the bad robot "man" is. Either that or you are just another idiot.
Pieman
04-01-2008, 4:51 AM
Where was that mentioned? Link and I'll retract my vote.
Inseln
04-01-2008, 4:52 AM
Where was that mentioned? Link and I'll retract my vote.
Dipshit, it was the post before GCBC's.... You can't be a robot, you're too stupid...
I AM OFFICIALLY COMMITTING ROBOT SUICIDE
Take me outta the game please.
Pieman
04-01-2008, 5:10 AM
Eh, I ignored half that post, as it seemed to be mostly calling anyone who voted Mr Doctor an idiot. But point taken, I retract my vote against Mr Doctor
Knight of Cydonia
04-01-2008, 5:10 AM
So GCBC was a good robot or a bad robot? Also: You guys have no dam idea who i think is a bad robot. I just suspect people. Yes I know it's stupid logic ect but it's just me. The people who are playing aren't that bad. I only think Gordan is.
davidmanman
04-01-2008, 6:21 AM
Wow, Gordon, you're a fucking idiot. You just completely screwed over one of the main guys that could help us.
History
04-01-2008, 6:43 AM
After the pure stupidity that just happened on the past few pages I am officially changing my vote to Inseln. Sorry I defended you. You're all being morons. I'd rather kill off innocents that ruin the game than evil robots.
Edit: To Pieman, I know Gordan posted it, and I should vote for him, except that we know he's not guilty, just dumb for sabatoging us. We'll be down two good bots now, and I'm willing to bet there aren't too many more of them out there. Anyways, hasn't it been three days now? I can't keep track with the million and a half posts all going to nowhere town.
Penguin_Of_Death
04-01-2008, 7:28 AM
I'm casting my vote for Inseln. It's just too suspicious for me how quick you jumped to start a bandwagon on someone else.
Pieman
04-01-2008, 7:36 AM
Wait, your voting against Inseln, saying she/he whatever ruined the game?
Gordan just revealed a good robot for fucks sake! I know where my votes going.
Gordan thats where
Dauntasa
04-01-2008, 9:54 AM
I'm voting for Inseln but I still have suspicions towards Dauntasa he just seems to dissapear and when he returns he quickly casts his vote and leaves.
I don't sit at my computer all day thinking about the game. I've got other shit to do.
DieHard
04-01-2008, 10:18 AM
I AM OFFICIALLY COMMITTING ROBOT SUICIDE
Take me outta the game please.
Alright, I'll take you out next round
Robo_Sexual
04-01-2008, 12:28 PM
"A Singletrees Morphs Moo. this may be the only clue I ever give out"
GWGOUL LHKJY
God damnit, everyone! Stop randomly suspecting people and starting random bandwagons, and work on the clues! Look, Diehard gave us TWO anagrams here and he even said this is the only clue he's ever going to give out. If Inseln is killed for no fucking reason and turns out to be innocent, I'm going to be pissed.
That said... can I get a little help decoding, please?
I'll be on in a couple of hours but if no progress has been made by then, I now officially place my vote for Pieman as an Evil Robot.
Inseln, I'm not standing up for you, I'm merely saying we should follow the clues, and at the time, there didn't seem to be any stating that you were bad.
If GCBC's a good robot, thats a shame. That means we have one less good guy working with us.
MrDoctor
04-01-2008, 1:25 PM
well looks like I'm fucked. Have fun without me. (I'm guessing the evil bots will kill me)(ps. probably shouldnt have pmed gordon since he was obviously retarded)
davidmanman
04-01-2008, 1:47 PM
MrDoctor, you're still alive, there are many more people voting for Inseln.
Edit: Oh, yeah that's probably true. Forgot about the bots.
MrDoctor
04-01-2008, 1:50 PM
I love you though david. But anyway I wish I was here in the last two days so I could of stopped all this mindless suicides and voting.
blltmssgy
04-01-2008, 2:16 PM
Wow. Well I now expand my idea of who are evil robots to these four:
Inseln, Pieman, and Ryuuzaki.
Vote stays with Inseln for now though.
davidmanman
04-01-2008, 5:23 PM
The round's over right? So Inseln is dead I guess.
Seems it. If shes a bot, we're doing something right. If not, fuck.
Exodus
04-01-2008, 6:28 PM
Wait, your voting against Inseln, saying she/he whatever ruined the game?
Gordan just revealed a good robot for fucks sake! I know where my votes going.
Gordan thats where
Well dipshit, he was revealed as a good guy because he exposed a good guy. Like a fucking retard.
blltmssgy
04-01-2008, 7:16 PM
Exodus, don't blame Pieman, he was one of the ones who decided after Gordan revealed that MrDoctor was a good robot to vote for him.
Pieman did this along Ryuuzaki and Inseln.
Why would they do this (vote for someone who stated they were a good guy) if they were on our side?
Well, now Im wondering how many good bots they are, because we may have just lost 2.
davidmanman
04-01-2008, 7:22 PM
Also, shouldn't Diehard or Benjamin be here soon?
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