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Oregon transgender man is 5 months pregnant (http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Oregon_Transgender_Man_Is_Five_Months_Pregnan t_15608.html)
I feel bad for this couple for all the shit they are getting from the medical community. This is going to be one confused kid when she gets older when she finds out her dad gave birth to her.
Ok wait, pre-op or post-op?
Nevermind. Though it would have been hilarious if it was the latter.
It was pre-op and she still had the plumbing making her not a man.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
I read about that this morning.
He’s making such an awesome sacrifice (by not taking his testosterone etc) for his wife that can’t carry a baby.
I was quite sad about the negative comments though. I can’t imagine how hurt he must have been to hear his own brother say that comment after the ectopic pregnancy, and all the other negativity from doctors and nurses. It’s disgusting. :frown:
The Man in question
http://cms.myspacecdn.com/cms/Splash/Videos/US/cheaters.jpg
Technically it's not a man. A man could have breasts put in but still call himself a man. A woman could have breasts taken out and still call herself a woman. All in all she's only about 1/4 man.
fat-red-chicken
03-27-2008, 9:11 AM
Ooooh! I was wondering how that baby was gonna get out!
fat-red-chicken
03-27-2008, 9:16 AM
I read about that this morning.
He’s making such an awesome sacrifice (by not taking his testosterone etc) for his wife that can’t carry a baby.
I was quite sad about the negative comments though. I can’t imagine how hurt he must have been to hear his own brother say that comment after the ectopic pregnancy, and all the other negativity from doctors and nurses. It’s disgusting. :frown:
Indeed it is... And Fox News is being totally Conservative about it... <_<
Technically it's not a man. A man could have breasts put in but still call himself a man. A woman could have breasts taken out and still call herself a woman. All in all she's only about 1/4 man.
Technically, he is a man. He is legally recognized as male, and legally married to a woman. The fact that he doesn't have a penis does not negate the legality.
Cristo
03-27-2008, 9:41 AM
Why the fuck do we care?
It's a woman, like it or not, without breasts having a baby.
I'd be much more impressed if it was a guy called Joe, who became Joanna and THEN became pregnant.
Hmm, I actually agree somewhat with you Cristo. I mean, I do think what he is doing is awesome and very selfless, but I don't think all the hype the story is getting is necessary. He's not the first transgender to do this.
Although, maybe all the hype will help with LGBT awareness. Something I know at least the US needs more of.
So actually, maybe I don't agree with you.
Cristo
03-27-2008, 9:56 AM
Well, let me rephrase it.
Why the fuck do we care a woman got pregnant?
Although, to be honest, it's not like LGBT movement needs that much more publicity or awareness. It's EVERYWHERE nowadays. Everyone is here, and everyone is queer and by God do they let us know it sometimes.
I mean I don't mind it, it's great, it's good to see we're not so narrow minded anymore but I don't think the movement needs anymore publicity than it already has. People who haven't become friendly or open minded towards it yet, won't ever be regardless of any more campaigns etc.
frescoSteph
03-27-2008, 9:59 AM
Well, that made me physically sick..
Yes, it may not change the minds of people who totally disagree with it, but the movement does need continued publicity. It's helping to show the children of those narrow-minded people that they can have their own opinion and not think exactly the same way their parents do.
The significance of the OP article is not that a woman got pregnant. It's about the sacrifice he had to make for his wife and him to have a child.
Quadros
03-27-2008, 10:19 AM
Ah, a debate about the LGBT community, finally a subject has come along that Cristo has first hand knowledge of.
Fact is this IS a man, legally and mentally, and he IS pregnant, and pregent men ARE pretty extraordinary. Also, it is possible to be male without having a penis. (http://www.explosm.net/profile/31636/)
I think the shit this guy's having to put up with is horrendous, beyond strictly medical dangers it's not the doctors' bussiness, and besides a medical profession in a country where abortion is legal don't really have a foot to stand on when they try to ban someone from having a risky pregnancy. (I'm pro choice by the way, but that's just what it is, pro choice). As for the rest of them, making disparaging comments to the point of abusive is indicative to the pessimistic turn our society has taken. A person is trying, against the odds, to naturally bring life into the world and people are calling that choice morally wrong? That's fucking retarded.
eVIL BOB
03-27-2008, 11:55 AM
Hot
HappyPalooza
03-27-2008, 12:26 PM
That is so cool.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Juniorposter.jpg
I find this rather far'fetched in a way. Well, at first, when I heard about this (before I found out he was transgender), I was like, "what the hell?", but when I found out he's a transgenger, blah blah blah, then I was like, well he's pretty much a girl, because only females are made to have babies. Men do not have wombs, and will more than likely never have them. I honestly believe that.
And, for those of you who say, "he's legally a man by paper" and all that garbage, he's(or she) still a woman, who gives a fuck what some paper says.
potolife
03-27-2008, 3:16 PM
He acknowledged the fact that he and his wife are facing the anger of some people who feel offended by their decision. Among those feeling offended by this were doctors, health care professionals, receptionalists, friends and family.
How is it any of their business? Really, he's still a woman as far as sex organs go so it's not like he's breaking the laws of science or anything. Those scientists just want something to bitch about. :mad:
MistyTehMoose
03-27-2008, 4:41 PM
I find this rather far'fetched in a way. Well, at first, when I heard about this (before I found out he was transgender), I was like, "what the hell?", but when I found out he's a transgenger, blah blah blah, then I was like, well he's pretty much a girl, because only females are made to have babies. Men do not have wombs, and will more than likely never have them. I honestly believe that.
My, what an astute observation :indiff:
Chardon07
03-27-2008, 5:20 PM
Wait so was that person born a man or a women... As far im getting it was born a women but changed into a man. Thats weird but sHE isnt breaking any scientific boundaries.
MistyTehMoose
03-27-2008, 5:35 PM
Wait so was that person born a man or a women... As far im getting it was born a women but changed into a man. Thats weird but sHE isnt breaking any scientific boundaries.
If you read the whole thread that was already touched on.
:heya:
Coconuts
03-27-2008, 5:47 PM
It's amazing all the stuff s/he has to go through just to give life. It's not ground-breaking for science seeing as s/he is still a female by organs, but more ground breaking for transgender people.
Cristo
03-27-2008, 5:50 PM
My, what an astute observation :indiff:
We might. We can't foresee what the future of 150 years will be like.
It'd be great if we could refer to him with the proper pronouns, too. After all, even if we aren't going to recognize the legality of his gender relocation, we could at least honor the fact that he wishes to be referred to as a man.
The reason we care about this is because he stopped his menstrual cycle for eight years. He also made the decision to have a child because his wife couldn't. Of course this is great publicity for the LGBT community because we need all that we can get. But this is also important from a scientific standpoint because he lost all his embryos in his first pregnancy.
Quadros
03-27-2008, 7:31 PM
By all you mean one.
It was pre-op and she still had the plumbing making her not a man.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
He's a man but he's not male.
Man meaning the gender and male meaning the sex. It's technically different.
In that case, I still back up what I said.
And Misty,
You're quite welcome :ahe:
MistyTehMoose
03-28-2008, 6:40 AM
We might. We can't foresee what the future of 150 years will be like.
If the past 7000 years are anything to go by, I don't think it'll happen.
fat-red-chicken
03-28-2008, 6:54 AM
So... How do he and his wife work out? Is she straight? Was she lesbian? 'cos, I mean, technically they couldn't have been having straight sex...
Since he doesn't have a dick, I'm pretty sure it would be lesbian sex.
xkittenxsocksx
03-28-2008, 3:46 PM
It's only a matter of time!
Caroline
03-28-2008, 4:18 PM
i was reading about this yeserday. if its true then people should let these people be.
Laced Oysters
03-28-2008, 4:59 PM
I was expecting an actual guy.
How disappointing.
Sarge51
03-28-2008, 9:14 PM
It was originally a female. I don't care what you say, it's not that exciting. Sounds like something that should be on Jerry Springer or something. I don't get what the fuss is about.
So... How do he and his wife work out? Is she straight? Was she lesbian? 'cos, I mean, technically they couldn't have been having straight sex...
I assume the woman is either straight or bisexual.
My girlfriend goes to an all woman's college and knows a couple consisting of a woman and a transgender "man" (who, like the man in the story, also hasn't had the full surgery), and they both identify themselves as straight.
Tyler_Legrand
03-28-2008, 10:44 PM
Uh.
Don't anyone remember this guy? Anyone at all?
http://www.malepregnancy.com/
Ambutt
03-30-2008, 1:16 AM
It's amazing all the stuff s/he has to go through just to give life. It's not ground-breaking for science seeing as s/he is still a female by organs, but more ground breaking for transgender people.
I 100% agree. this man/woman is doing an amazing deed for life.
davidrevill
03-30-2008, 9:26 AM
Oregon transgender man is 5 months pregnant (http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Oregon_Transgender_Man_Is_Five_Months_Pregnan t_15608.html)
I feel bad for this couple for all the shit they are getting from the medical community. This is going to be one confused kid when she gets older when she finds out her dad gave birth to her.
I would agree that by gender he is a man, but sexually, I believe he is a woman.
Which of these determines weather they are male or female is the real question that I am getting at because that would determine weather you think, HE is getting pregnant or that SHE is a weirdo.(not my point of view necessarily)
pure_hatred
03-30-2008, 9:52 AM
He can have all the organs removed/added he wants, he's still a woman by scientific definition. He has XX chromosomes, making him a woman. Just like everyone else has said, this recieved WAY too much publicity for what it is. A hairy woman getting pregnant.
l0rdsalamence
03-30-2008, 6:40 PM
i bet he's a dumb american fuck
TangerineOrange
03-31-2008, 9:03 AM
I saw this story on the news; they said that his neighbors had seen him days before and he had not, in fact, been sporting a belly.
So, some woman who looks like a dude is pregnant. This Woman who looks like a dude has a girlfriend / wife who is a woman that looks like a woman.
1) Where's the sperm coming from?
2) How fucked up is this kid going to be?!
Pie_Dee
03-31-2008, 1:20 PM
1) I'm guessing a sperm donor since this was a planned pregnancy.
2) If I'm right about the previous question, then I'd say pretty normal.
Brought up by two women, one of whom is a man that carried you to term? That'd fuck me up.
Pie_Dee
03-31-2008, 2:05 PM
Brought up by two women, one of whom is a man that carried you to term? That'd fuck me up.
One of them is a man, as you said shortly after calling them both women (?) so the child will have a mother and a father, and I'm pretty sure they'd wait till the child reaches an appropriate age before telling it that it's father gave birth to it.
One of them is a man, as you said shortly after calling them both women (?) so the child will have a mother and a father, and I'm pretty sure they'd wait till the child reaches an appropriate age before telling it that it's father gave birth to it.
That was entirely my point. It's meant to sound retarded.
And they may not have a choice what with it being all over the news all over the world.
Pie_Dee
03-31-2008, 2:12 PM
That was entirely my point. It's meant to sound retarded.
And they may not have a choice what with it being all over the news all over the world.
No, my point was that one is a man, and I disagreed with calling him a woman. The child won't understand or care at first and when it is old enough, the news story would be old as well.
pure_hatred
03-31-2008, 4:52 PM
My guess is he/she'll be horribly bullied at school, and, like Ox said, become fucked up.
Quadros
03-31-2008, 5:00 PM
My guess is he/she'll be horribly bullied at school, and, like Ox said, become fucked up.
Yeah because all trans-gender people are fucked up in the head. Believeing that you were born as a gender you don't feel you belong to makes you crazy, or is a belief bought on by pychological trauma.
Shut up. He was born as a chick but in his heart he's a dude. That's not insanity, that's just different.
Technically, he is a man. He is legally recognized as male, and legally married to a woman. The fact that he doesn't have a penis does not negate the legality.
So your saying I can go to court and say I wanna be a woman but have my man parts! Now I can get me some sexy lesbo's!
He can have all the organs removed/added he wants, he's still a woman by scientific definition. He has XX chromosomes, making him a woman. Just like everyone else has said, this recieved WAY too much publicity for what it is. A hairy woman getting pregnant
Exactly, thats one of the kickers right there.
Alphawolf29
03-31-2008, 8:10 PM
Technically, he is a man. He is legally recognized as male, and legally married to a woman. The fact that he doesn't have a penis does not negate the legality.
Are you being serious? Ownership over a penis is the only definition of man.
Quadros
03-31-2008, 9:04 PM
Oh yeah you're totally right Hemaphrodites are men. And Soldiers who had their package blown off defending their platoon from a grenade are now women. You're an idiot.
Where's that gonna come out at?
LOL [/joke]
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So, some woman who looks like a dude is pregnant. This Woman who looks like a dude has a girlfriend / wife who is a woman that looks like a woman.
1) Where's the sperm coming from?
2) How fucked up is this kid going to be?!
1) A donor.
2) I'd imagine the child would get teased less than a child with two gay parents who look like the same sex. As far as how the childs family life will affect them, I don't think it will. The parents went through a great sacrifice to have a child, and I really believe the child will have an amazing life with two parents who love her tremendously.
So your saying I can go to court and say I wanna be a woman but have my man parts! Now I can get me some sexy lesbo's!
Good luck finding 'sexy lesbo's', you know, since lesbians just love penis so much. :indiff:
Are you being serious? Ownership over a penis is the only definition of man.
I really hope that was a joke. If not, you're an idiot.
Pelican Man
04-02-2008, 10:01 PM
Are you being serious? Ownership over a penis is the only definition of man.
Nope. As said before, the structure of your chromosomes is what defines your gender.
RessXalcor
04-02-2008, 11:35 PM
The parents went through a great sacrifice to have a child
why does everyone keep saying that? you make it seem like they murdered someone to have a kid. TWO women decided to have a child but only one could actually have one( the one who takes the trash out), that is no sacrafice. The news makes it seem like its the first time in the world this has ever happened. And the Constant airplay on tv makes it sound worse than the Paris Shimlton SAGA
fat-red-chicken
04-03-2008, 1:08 AM
why does everyone keep saying that? you make it seem like they murdered someone to have a kid. TWO women decided to have a child but only one could actually have one( the one who takes the trash out), that is no sacrafice. The news makes it seem like its the first time in the world this has ever happened. And the Constant airplay on tv makes it sound worse than the Paris Shimlton SAGA
Firstly, it's spelt "sacrifice". Secondly, it was a sacrifice. This person spent a lot of time and money trying to be more like a man and then gave it up to be pregnant.
RessXalcor
04-03-2008, 1:20 AM
Firstly, it's spelt "sacrifice". Secondly, it was a sacrifice. This person spent a lot of time and money trying to be more like a man and then gave it up to be pregnant.
well thank god she didnt mutilate her vagina or else this story wouldn't be playing on tv every fucking 5 minutes
why does everyone keep saying that? you make it seem like they murdered someone to have a kid. TWO women decided to have a child but only one could actually have one( the one who takes the trash out), that is no sacrafice. The news makes it seem like its the first time in the world this has ever happened. And the Constant airplay on tv makes it sound worse than the Paris Shimlton SAGA
Because that's what this whole story is about. It's about the SACRIFICE, not the fact that he was born a she. He took hormones for years, removed his breasts, and spent a lot of time/money to be legally recognized as a man. He gave all of that up, so that him and his wife could be happy and have a child. It's a very selfless act, and deserves to be all over the news.
RessXalcor
04-03-2008, 11:05 AM
Because that's what this whole story is about. It's about the SACRIFICE, not the fact that he was born a she. He took hormones for years, removed his breasts, and spent a lot of time/money to be legally recognized as a man. He gave all of that up, so that him and his wife could be happy and have a child. It's a very selfless act, and deserves to be all over the news.
so just because she/he will stop taking her pills for 9 months, just put off being a man for 9 months its an automatic sacrifice?
so just because she/he will stop taking her pills for 9 months, just put off being a man for 9 months its an automatic sacrifice?
People like you are the reason that news articles like these need to be well spread.
Are you even reading what I wrote? I have this strange feeling that your only reading partial. He went through a life altering change. For YEARS he was known as a man/lived as a man. Most of his wifes family doesn't even know that he was born a woman. He and his wife made a sacrifice so they could have a child. He knew that it could possibly cause controversy, and was proven correct in that aspect when his own brother was extremely disrespectful to him.
Did you read all of that? Do you understand it yet, or are you still ignorant?
RessXalcor
04-03-2008, 5:06 PM
People like you are the reason that news articles like these need to be well spread.
Are you even reading what I wrote? I have this strange feeling that your only reading partial. He went through a life altering change. For YEARS he was known as a man/lived as a man. Most of his wifes family doesn't even know that he was born a woman. He and his wife made a sacrifice so they could have a child. He knew that it could possibly cause controversy, and was proven correct in that aspect when his own brother was extremely disrespectful to him.
Did you read all of that? Do you understand it yet, or are you still ignorant?
People like me? what the hell does that suppose to mean? And yes I can read exactly what you said some man born a woman who has been trying to become a man is going to have a child eventhough their families dont support such a thing, some are even disrespectful and I see that such a thing is hurtful and controvertial. But to consider a woman who has been trying to become a man having a child being called a sacrifice makes real sacrifices seem like nothing. Here's something that can be called a real sacrifice giving up a kidney for someone you love. Not a woman who is trying to be a man delay it to have a child instead.
CrumPoker
04-03-2008, 5:20 PM
It upset me to see it was a woman without tits.
I was hoping fully man.
Him being transgender explains it but its still gross.
Yep. Oh and the person, was on Oprah today. Did anyone watch it? I didn't and was wondering what they maybe talked about, or at least, what was said.
Yep. Oh and the person, was on Oprah today. Did anyone watch it? I didn't and was wondering what they maybe talked about, or at least, what was said.
I haven't watched it yet, but I found all of the interview online. It's in three parts.
Part 1 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1622270491036798667&q=pregnant+man+on+opera&total=43&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)
Part 2 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7630746463199896979&q=pregnant+man+on+opera&total=43&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3)
Part 3 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2386956838077961440&q=pregnant+man+on+opera&total=43&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4)
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