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Tener
04-29-2008, 9:46 AM
Currently I have these part looked out:
MOTHERBOARD:
ECS A770M-A s.AM2+ ATX
ECS A770M-A AM2+ 770+SB600 / 4000 FSB/ 1xPCI-E x16/ 2xPCIex1/3xPCI/ PCIDual 4xDDRII 1066/800/667/8-ch audio/ 4xSATAII / 1xPATA/Raid 0,1,0+1/G- LAN/ATX

CASE:
MD Cod M401 450W MUST

Midi ATX Codegen M401 450W USB/Audio/FAN must

GRAPHICS CARD:
MSI X3650 512MB OC

R3650-T2D512-OC 3650/512MB DDR3/256bit/PCI-E 2.0/Engine 750MHz/Memory 1600MHz/2xDVI/TV out/Dual VGA/Video in/HDTV/FAN/ATX

MEMORY:
A-Data PC2-6400 2GB

DDR2 PC-6400 800MHz 2GB

HDD:
Western Digital Caviar 250GB 7200rpm

Western Digital Caviar WD2500AAJS 250GB 7200rpm 8MB SATA II

CPU:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ s.AM2

(2700MHz/ L2 Cache 2x512KB) Socket AM2, BOX

SOUND CARD:
SB Audigy SE bulk

Creative SB Audigy SE bulk

CD/DVD:
Samsung DVD-/+RW SH-S203P/BEBN Lightscribe

(20x8x8x DVD+RW/ 20x8x6x DVD-RW ) Black, SATA Bulk, double layer + Nero SW


So, I'm quite sure this will even run crysis and assassins creed, but is the 450w enough for this?
I'm getting 2 or 4 gigs of RAM later too.

Rob
04-29-2008, 10:57 AM
450w is more than enough, but that video card will not run Crysis very well.

Tener
04-29-2008, 11:24 AM
450w is more than enough, but that video card will not run Crysis very well.

You sure about that?
I've seen worst cards to run it pretty smoothly.
It's the best i found in that price range in my country.
It costs 110 dollars.
And i don't want vista and i have crt monitor what means mora ram for games.
Edit: I'm not looking for best quality in games.
Even the lowest quality is better then most games my computer can handle right now.

Spastic
04-29-2008, 12:10 PM
That card should run Crysis, not at high details, or with any AA turned on, but it will run. I looked around and got a benchmark from this site. (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6977&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=1) It seems like that card will be the bottleneck of your system, if you upgrade that you should be able to run Crysis on higher details.

BlackHood
04-29-2008, 12:18 PM
I would advise upgrading to an 8000 series NVidia card, you can get them fairly cheap nowdays, and I rate them higher than ATI, although thats a personal preference.

Tener
04-29-2008, 12:23 PM
That card should run Crysis, not at high details, or with any AA turned on, but it will run. I looked around and got a benchmark from this site. (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6977&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=1) It seems like that card will be the bottleneck of your system, if you upgrade that you should be able to run Crysis on higher details.
Thanks for finding that.
I will be more then pleased even if i can play on medium.
One more thing tough... The card in there is normal version... Mine is overclocked one, and thats better.

Tener
04-29-2008, 12:24 PM
I would advise upgrading to an 8000 series NVidia card, you can get them fairly cheap nowdays, and I rate them higher than ATI, although thats a personal preference.
I have done quite much research on those and geforce cards with same speficications are twice or more times expencive.

Oops, sorry for double posting.

Spastic
04-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Thanks for finding that.
I will be more then pleased even if i can play on medium.
One more thing tough... The card in there is normal version... Mine is overclocked one, and thats better.

I don't think the GPU clock has a whole lot to do with the FPS you will be getting, if anything you'll see a negligible difference.

Tener
04-29-2008, 12:34 PM
I don't think the GPU clock has a whole lot to do with the FPS you will be getting, if anything you'll see a negligible difference.
What about the memory... Original has 128 bit but OC version has 256 bit.
And I'm getting a feeling that you know more about computers then me(so do most of people) Anyway... What do you think, is it a good card for 100 dollars?

Spastic
04-29-2008, 12:37 PM
If you aren't looking to run top of the line games at the highest settings, then yes it is a good budget card. I would invest into a Nvidia 8800GT if you ever get the money though, that is one of the best cards, and my favorite, that is out on the market right now.

The transition from 128 bit to 256 could cause an increase of FPS, but like I said, I wouldn't set my heart on playing Crysis on high.

Tener
04-29-2008, 12:48 PM
If you aren't looking to run top of the line games at the highest settings, then yes it is a good budget card. I would invest into a Nvidia 8800GT if you ever get the money though, that is one of the best cards, and my favorite, that is out on the market right now.

The transition from 128 bit to 256 could cause an increase of FPS, but like I said, I wouldn't set my heart on playing Crysis on high.

A hundred bucks is the most I would pay for a card.
And like I said, I just want to play the games, not crank them up to their max.
Medium in there is just enough for me.
And a little question. Am I able to play assassins creed on this smoothly?
Processor is good enough, RAM is just on minimum line...

Spastic
04-29-2008, 1:03 PM
Yeah, Assassin's Creed will be fine, a friend of mine uses a HD Pro 2900 model to run it, and he runs it on high, but with DX9 shaders.

Tener
04-29-2008, 3:18 PM
And then there's this... I'm not sure I'm able to build the computer...
Like putting it together.

And Spastic, can you check if the case and motherboard match.
They are both in ATX form, but the usb ports and stuff.

And is it hard to change the stock sound card with new one?
And what tools to i need for putting the computer together?

Spastic
04-29-2008, 3:32 PM
You need a screwdriver, and that is pretty much it. It's not so hard putting one together, but I wouldn't advise your first build be on a new computer. Installing a sound card is a simple as sticking it into the PCI slot, then downloading drivers.

You can probably find someone to put it together for you, for a price. It is not the best idea to mess around with computer parts if you don't know what you are doing. As for your case and motherboard matching, you would have to send me a link to the case, since I have never heard of it.

Tener
04-29-2008, 3:41 PM
You need a screwdriver, and that is pretty much it. It's not so hard putting one together, but I wouldn't advise your first build be on a new computer. Installing a sound card is a simple as sticking it into the PCI slot, then downloading drivers.

You can probably find someone to put it together for you, for a price. It is not the best idea to mess around with computer parts if you don't know what you are doing. As for your case and motherboard matching, you would have to send me a link to the case, since I have never heard of it.

Well I guess I can find...All I have done is changing the hard disk and cleaning it from inside a few times.
Case:
http://www.codegenworld.com/03_products/index.asp?max_id_search=11&min_id_search=40&pro_id_search=190
(mine is 450w version)

Motherboard:
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailId=844&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=1&LanID=0

Spastic
04-29-2008, 3:49 PM
Looks like it will work fine with that case. Mid towers can hold almost any motherboard.