Voting-Round 1-Pelican Man VS AnnieMae

[Far]

One choice, everyone vote please. The poll will close in 2 days. Your choice should be based on humor, art and creativity.


Here is their match again to refresh your memory:http://forums.explosm.net/showthread.php?t=33514


Talk about this match in here if you need to.

[jewishjosh]

Peli, great final comic. The Rock Band twist had me laughing out loud, and I caught the Hitler moustache on Zed. However, AnnieMae was nearly as creative with Zed's powers as you were, so jokes and creativity won't win my vote alone. Your art has improved but AnnieMae's is so much better that I don't know if it matters much.

Too bad I had to vote against the most creative character in the tournament, but I think it says something about the quality of the entries if we have to eliminate good contestants in such an early round. (Although perhaps I should hold my tongue: as I write this, the vote is only 3-0 against Peli. If you do advance I look forward to your next battle.)

[Tweek]

I liked Peli's comics and his character is unique to say the least, but I don't know how he will stand up in the later rounds.
I am not a fussy person by nature so I didn't find anything wrong with Annie's comics either, and overall I think hers were better done. So I voted for her.
Like Jew though I don't mind at all if it turns out you win, peliman, so good luck.

[Urser]

Peli. But only because I had no idea what was happening in Annie's comics. :wail:

[InTransit]

I'm with Urser. Peliman's comics were funnier and made more sense.

[DieHard]

I'm going with Peli since his jokes were awesome

[reyley1014]

I went with annie. she was more creative and funny, and you can't even start comparing the art.
Common guys, take the fucking time and READ the comic. It makes it all that much better, really!

[McGruff]

Im going with Peli considering I could read the thing and the cleanliness made it top. Plus he had those awesome jokes, how could I resist?

[Mr. Crow]

Peli's weren't drawn that well and, really, weren't that funny.

Annie's were drawn really well and not that funny either. The only reason they were confusing is because of Peli's character, which made it hard to tell where speech began and ended, and was confusing because it could somehow summon objects by spelling them out which made everything random.

So I voted for Annie. In the long run, her character is better, she's a better artist, and I don't see anything suggesting that Peli's comics are funnier, just less confusing.

[Greger]

Got to go with Peli, that last comic won it, altough the whole 'Sesame Street' with Cookiemonster being gay and all was hilarious :)

[Pelican Man]

Did we ever agree on the etiquette of competitors voting for themselves? Honestly, I'm just getting sick of clicking "View Poll Results" to see how I'm doing.

However, AnnieMae was nearly as creative with Zed's powers as you were

Yeah but she reused letters, and didn't create the objects with the letters, which were two of the big points of Zed's powers, and gave her a lot more room to move with it.

[Greger]

^
Afaik it's all up to yourself how you want to vote.

[Majx]

Annie definately. Peli's weren't funny and the art was rubbish. Annie's were more creative and had excellent art.

[InTransit]

Just vote for yourself peliman.

[asphysciated_emus]

I voted for annie, because I couldn't understand peli's comic due to the bad art. And if you actually READ annie's comic, it was funny as hell.

[Mustache]

Oh man! It's currently tied! 23 to 23!

[AnnieMae]

Yeah but she reused letters, and didn't create the objects with the letters, which were two of the big points of Zed's powers, and gave her a lot more room to move with it.


Sometimes, you have to let go of your sense of reality when it comes to your character; Jewsasarus Rex doesn't exactly breath fire, but it work'd for the humor you were going for in your comic.

The ends justify the means, peli

[Raxo]

Peli's were in my opinion mostly terrible art wise with one good joke here and there, but pretty creative.

but Annie's were incredibly disappointing to me because there was such good art but so much unfunny.

I voted for Pelican Man because I found it to be more entertaining.

[Clix]

Peli's were mostly terrible with one good joke here and there.

but Annie's were incredibly disappointing because there was such good art but so much unfunny.

I voted for Pelican Man because at least there is some funny there that can be entertaining.

I personally dislike it when people state opinions as facts. I don't know if it was your intention or not, but I would apreciate it if you could avoid it in the future.

[Raxo]

I'm sorry if it came across like that.

Yeah sorry about making my opinion sound so bad.
I'll change it and will avoid it in the future.

I guess I just assumed no one here would take it as fact and they would just view it as an opinion and they would take it badly in any way.

[Spastic]

I had to vote for Annie, he/she had the better art, whereas Peli's looked like 3rd grade doodles. Annie was also funny, though it was hard to tell which panel was which. Also Peli's character was the letter Z, what the hell is with that?

[Niki]

Peli's was funnier, and I think having a letter as a character would have made it more challenging but he still did well.

[jewishjosh]

Yeah but she reused letters, and didn't create the objects with the letters, which were two of the big points of Zed's powers, and gave her a lot more room to move with it.

That's what creativity is, making more room for yourself to push the boundaries. She may not have used Zed's powers exactly the way you intended people to use them, but she stuck to the general principle, using upside down f's as t's and stuff. Characters always gain new powers, technology, or allies throughout a tournament in order to be successful. You can't really restrict what someone will do with your character.

And I really don't get why everyone has problem with Annie's being confusing. It made more sense than a comic with no descriptions and ambiguous illustrations. I don't mind reading something if it makes it easier to follow, in fact I'd much prefer it instead of having to think to figure out what the picture means.

[MistyTehMoose]

I understoood Annie's comics, but I didn't think it was funny at all. I voted for Peli.

[davidmanman]

This is really evenly divided!
Oh, and I voted Annie, I found the comic really well drawn and funny, why Peli's was okay at best I guess.

[Mr. Crow]

I found Annie's totally confusing around the point I realized that she was fighting the letter Z, its alphabet minions, and its super powers of conjuring through the magic of spelling.

[Iceshade]

You're my boy Peli! When I first saw your character description I really didn't know how you were going to make it work but you really surprised me good sir.

[ValientJimmy]

Ok Pelis was a lot more thought through and it would be a lot harder to use him so i would like to see how he does agianst other oponents.

I also dont think Annie really knows how to use Zed i mean When Peli was using the LAMP he made a lamp out of the letters yet Annie just drew titts affter writing TITTS.


Peli for the win!

[Pelican Man]

BOO YAH!!!

I win, motherbitchers.

Take that, naysayers! Peli moves on to round 2!

[Pancakes]

BOO YAH!!!

I win, motherbitchers.

Take that, naysayers! Peli moves on to round 2!
Well at least you were decent enough to tell Annie good match.

[Pelican Man]

Well at least you were decent enough to tell Annie good match.

But I hadn't done that. OH, SARCASM! Good one! With humour like that, maybe YOU should be in the Comic Tournament!

But with that jackass aside, well done Annie. Your comics were well done, superb art and really creative. I just had to rub it in first, as a lot of people were being pretty harsh with their criticisms of my comics.

[AnnieMae]

way to go, Peli! I honestly didn't think you were serious with that character, but HEY YOU WUN!! I guess theres more interesting scenarios you can put a fucking letter in than you can a character that has over 300 years of religious fodder behind him.

I mean, who wants to see a Bar Mitzvah? Or a penny-pincher joke? Or even worse and more cliche, a pig or Holocaust reference? A pig; jewish kryptonite?

PUH-LEASE! i'd rather see a fucking letter of the alphabet fight a fucking elephant. That's entertainment in a duffle bag.

You totally deserved to win, Peli. Anyone that can take the time and invent such a brilliant character is worthy enough to advance on to the next round. i'd be lying if i said you didn't deserve this illegitimate and totally biased win!


Maybe next time i'll be more creative with my character....i'm thinking the number one.

GOOD LUCK!

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[Tweek]

Oooooh snap.

[Mr. Crow]

Oh ho ho! I think Annie's implying something.

[Assassin]

http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg

[Lag]

Seriously though guys, the letter Z.

[Clix]

Maybe instead of insulting and crying you should realize that perhaps the reason you lost to a letter wasn't entirely because of your and his user level. Learn from experiences buddy, and quit bitching.

http://doogs.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/whambulance.jpg

[PewPew]

AnnieMae is right. She/he lost because most people didn't spend the time or brainpower to understand his/her cartoons. It was quite obvious the amount of time Peli put into first creating his character then scratching out his cave drawings.

I seriously hope he steps things up a LOT in the next round.

[Greger]

Oh so now you're trying to say that people who are dumb cant approve what's better than the other?
Peli won because he/she/it was better than AnnieMae, end of discussion.
That is, AnnieMae still did good.

[PewPew]

I didn't say dumb. I said they didn't bother enough to read it properly.

[Far]

I read it fine, it just wasn't funny to me.

[PewPew]

I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. What I meant was AnnieMae's comic at least in my opinion was a lot funnier but was too confusing, which was her downfall. Peli's comic and character didn't have as much effort put into it as AnnieMae's but he showed a lot of potential.

For example, his second comic had way better art than his first which was painful just to look at, but he had a really ingenious joke with that lamp. After the lamp joke, he really didn't add anything new past that.

[reyley1014]

You guys are fucking retarded. its not only 'the letter z' that sucked, his whole ficking comic sucked. Everyone uses the same fucking jokes all the fucking time and you find it 'EPIC'. Jesus fucking christ!
One person was alittle original, and pulled something a little different, and you went for the obvious CRAP because he used the reguler jokes you guys are used to. It was crap art and not a drop of originality, just a fucking noob using Paint for the first time.
Or you didn't even bother reading it, yet voted anyway, now isn't that lovely.

PS. It's not that the other comics aren't funny, they just have very similar humor, Very similar.

[Mr. Crow]

Why is it always the new members who get outraged by this sort of thing?

I MEAN SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! I WANT A RECOUNT, FUCK!

[HappyPalooza]

Annie's was dumb because (s)he had a one-joke character, a Jew. That's it. Art was obviously excellent, but as much I hate to say it the Jew jokes got so old and fast.

Also what a crybaby.

[reyley1014]

Also what a crybaby.

I'm sure you would be thrilled losing to a 13 year old with the letter Z as a character and 15 minutes on paint, because poeple wouldn't read you're comic. No, really, I am.

[Greger]

Why is it always the new members who get outraged by this sort of thing?

I MEAN SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! I WANT A RECOUNT, FUCK!

They are probably around 13 years old, just found out internet and thinks that their opinions actually matter ;)

[Mr. Crow]

I'm sure you would be thrilled losing to a 13 year old with the letter Z as a character and 15 minutes on paint, because poeple wouldn't read you're comic. No, really, I am.

Haha, PelicanMan obviously didn't use Paint, which shows how much you know. I'd shut up, now.

[reyley1014]

Haha, PelicanMan obviously didn't use Paint, which shows how much you know. I'd shut up, now.

I'm sorry, i just assumed, you know, because the art is so fucking bad...

I dont have to know what flour some baker used to know that the bread tastes like shit.

[HappyPalooza]

I'm sure you would be thrilled losing to a 13 year old with the letter Z as a character and 15 minutes on paint, because poeple wouldn't read you're comic. No, really, I am.

I wouldn't throw a little tantrum after acting sincere for so long. Suck it up, it's an online comic tournament.

[Mr. Crow]

I'm sorry, i just assumed, you know, because the art is so fucking bad...

I dont have to know what flour some baker used to know that the bread tastes like shit.

But when you start complaining that the baker's bread tastes shittier than the other baker's bread and therefore the latter baker should have won the bake-off instead of the former baker who isn't really good at backing bread but has some pretty good seasonings once in a while but the latter baker can make really good bread that can be somewhat confusing which still makes them the better baker in the bake-off so everyone who voted for the former baker must be baked and the bread is bullshit because the proof is in the pudding, you should know a thing or two about bread.

[Scoped]

Enough baking metaphors.

[reyley1014]

the bread is bullshit because the proof is in the pudding, you should know a thing or two about bread.

^
Ehem.

And btw, it's common knowledge the critic doesn't have to be an artist, Oscar Wilde said so.

But if we are having fun with a metaphor.. Just because one baker added some poppy seeds, and I might not like poppy seeds, but I know that some people like them, I shouldn't pick the guy who must have confused the sugar and the salt, and maybe the flour with sand. And I don't have to know which type of sand he used even though some sands would taste better then others, but I don't really like sand to begin with, well not the one in the park, I might like other types though, but ever since the age of 5, when i accidentally...

[Lag]

Annie probably wouldn't be able to participate in the next round seeing as he's TO'd for 4 days.

[Clix]

I didn't say dumb. I said they didn't bother enough to read it properly.

Easy to read and understand is an essential part of a comic, and it's quite easy to do as well.

For the record, I voted for Annie.

^
Ehem.

And btw, it's common knowledge the critic doesn't have to be an artist, Oscar Wilde said so.


There's a difference between not being an artist and not knowing what the fuck you are talking about, not to mention good critics are in fact artists, they just don't create, they work on other's creations. Read up some T.S. Elliot, kid.

[tunacake]

I'm sorry, i just assumed, you know, because the art is so fucking bad...

I dont have to know what flour some baker used to know that the bread tastes like shit.

Simple =/= bad. I thought the art was pretty suitable for the simplicity of the character.

Also, Annie lost by 2 votes. It's not like nobody voted for her.

[jewishjosh]

Holy crap, shut the fuck up everyone. The voters can vote for whoever they want for whatever reason. I thought Annie's was better, but for whatever reason more people preferred Peli's. It's not rocket science.

[Mr. Crow]

That's just crazy, Josh.

Though, there is a legitimate point that the only reason Peli got so many votes is that he's personally popular. If somebody like, say, Reyley here had posted those comics, would he have received as many votes?

But what's done is done.

[tunacake]

Dang popularity contest :argh:

[reyley1014]

There's a difference between not being an artist and not knowing what the fuck you are talking about, not to mention good critics are in fact artists, they just don't create, they work on other's creations. Read up some T.S. Elliot, kid.

Yes, you're right, I only think his art sucks because i don't draw myself, everyone who DOES make comics seems to find it superb, top notch, the creme de la creme.

[QUOTE=tunacake;659969]Simple =/= bad. QUOTE]

Sometimes, in this case it does though, simple GOOD art would be like "not from concentrate" or our dear old C&H, but in this case even the people who voted for peli all claimed that his art was bad.. maybe you don't think so, but there seams to be quite the consensus about that.


I knew popularity had something to do with it!! - just haven't been here long enough to know who is and who isn't popular. meh. g'night.

O and I'm a she.

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[Lag]

No wonder you sound like you're on your period.

And so what if Annie should have won? How exactly do you declare that?

[Inseln]

Read up some T.S. Elliot, kid.

This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
Not with a bang but with a whisper

The Hollow Men, my personal favourite poem by him.

Back on topic; holy shat notes that was close. I realled loved Peli's puns over Annie's art though so I voted for him.

No wonder you sound like you're on your period.
:roffle: Quoting!

[MistyTehMoose]

Christ, AnnieMaes rant made me hate her even more.

[tunacake]

O and I'm a she.

Wait. Annie? I wouldn't do that if I were you.

[InTransit]

I bothered. It was boring. I laughed at peliman's. So I voted for peliman. Is it really that hard to understand? You didn't have to vote JUST on the art.

[Clix]

Yes, you're right, I only think his art sucks because i don't draw myself, everyone who DOES make comics seems to find it superb, top notch, the creme de la creme.



You're not helping your case, buddy. The fact that you thought he used paint showed that you are not capable of giving a completely educated and objective critique, you can merely say "omg his art sucks lol", which is what you've been all this time. I never said nor implied his art was good.

[Pelican Man]

Sometimes, in this case it does though, simple GOOD art would be like "not from concentrate" or our dear old C&H, but in this case even the people who voted for peli all claimed that his art was bad.. maybe you don't think so, but there seams to be quite the consensus about that.

Some of them actually said it wasn't as bad as everyone was making out.

And I don't get what the fuck you're whining about; who the fuck are you? If you don't like it, go make a statement by fucking off and having nothing else to do with this tournament.

And popularity vote? I'll admit I've made friends with a lot of people on these forums, but on the same tier I reckon I would have also made a lot of enemies. Also; I wouldn't expect people to vote for me just because we're friends, I'd expect them to decide which comic is honestly better, and vote for that one, and I think they'd know that.

I was surprised by the way a lot of people voted, I had the vote of a lot of people whom I was certain hated me, and a good number of my friends voted against me.

And Annie; I'm sorry. But get fucked. I thought this was a close competition and that a close vote was then least it deserved, but after that, wow. People say I'm 13 because of my below average art? How about throwing a mass fucking tantrum? Isn't that the calling card of an infant?

And all this hatred on my character is bullshit. I wanted to do something creative. I COULD have picked a big dude with muscles whose only power can be technically described as "SMASHIN' STUFF", but I wanted something whose abilities would be difficult to utilize, and people are accusing me of not being creative? You people are asking a fucking lot, I don't know how much more creative I'm meant to get.

Fuck.

[Chips]

Fuck 'em dude. Just do your thing. I enjoyed your comics, and you noticably improved even in the short time of one round.

[Pelican Man]

Thanks dude. I'll admit, the first comic of mine was horrible art, but I really didn't think the second was all that bad.

I joined this comic tournament because I'd watched all previous ones, and thought it looked like fun. I don't give a shit if I win or not, I just wanted to be part of that, to have FUN. You jackasses needa calm the fuck down, and realize this is just a stupid little comic tournament, no need to get your panties into such a bunch over it. Because all you're doing is taking all the fucking fun out of it.

Edit: actually, this is me forfeiting. Give the win to AnnieMae, I'm over this tournament. Annie, congratulations, and I send my condolences to the water buffalo that crawled up your ass and died.

[Urser]

I only voted for Peli because he was the only one I could understand. Plain and simple. :ahe:

Congrats Peli. Shame that Annie couldn't prove what (s)he was really capable of. :whale:

[MrDoctor]

I don't understand why everyone is bitching at Peli. He won fair and square and all the bitching and whining isn't gonna magically make annie win so shut the fuck up. Get over it and just accept the fact the person you voted for lost.

[Pelican Man]

all the bitching and whining isn't gonna magically make annie win so shut the fuck up.

Actually...

*points up*

[Far]

Annie isn't getting put through, not after the bitch fit he pulled there.

[Chips]

Stay in it Peli. Prove them wrong by giving it your all. As you said, you chose a very creative, simple, yet effective character and I completely agree with you there. Show us some more of that in your next round.

[InTransit]

Peli you rock. Noone wants a sore loser in this and that was really really really fucking rude of Annie to go out like that. You deserve this win even more after that hissy fit.

[zimbobimbo]

Wow Annie, lose with a bit of respect man! You only lost by 2 votes. This is a competition, there has to be a loser and a winner.

Peli, well done, I am interested to see what else you can do with Zed, I think he is quite a clever concept despite his simplicity.

[McGruff]

You did a awesome job Peli, I wouldn't of voted for you just because I somewhat know you but because your art was nice clean and simple. I don't like searching around for a the text and you deserved the win. Don't try and give up from some bitching. You are doing really well man, and you did make a shitload of improvement. So nice job man.

[MistyTehMoose]

I want Peli to stay in, if I wanted you out man, I would have voted for Annie. I would hate to see her get through after the bitchfit she just threw.

[Mr. Crow]

Whoa man I'm totally outraged too. Let's all argue about it.

[Vin]

I vote for more baking metaphors.

[Mustache]

Wait, is annie going on? I'm kind of against that.

more baking metaphors.
Yes.

[tunacake]

No. Look at the poll.

[Mustache]

Yeah, but peli just said he quit. (nobody wants him to)

[tunacake]

When did he say that? I don't think I can stand to see Annie bitch about losing again.

EDIT: Missed a bunch of posts. Too bad about Peli.

[CalculatePie314]

How the fuck did this turn into such a problem? Peli still better be in this, man.

Look, I voted for Annie. I thought the art was better and he(/she?) was funnier. But the facts stand, more people want Peli to go on. I don't really see how anyone can argue against this.

[jewishjosh]

Even though I voted for Annie and thought that she did a better job during the comic phase, now that Peli's won the vote I'd rather see him advance than Annie. Everyone's gotta stop acting like hormonal teenagers. I think it's ridiculous that people's feelings are being hurt by an internet comic competition.

Both characters were creative, albeit very different, and for whatever reason Peli won. Ergo, Peli advances. Nobody cares if you disagree. Let's get on with the comic battles.

[DJArchngl]

Why isn't this thread locked yet? voting is over. a winner was chosen. teh end.

[jewishjosh]

Talk about this match in here if you need to.

This thread was kept open specifically so people could voice their opinions. Getting emotional was a nasty side-effect.

[Urser]

Well this is a big mess if I do dare say so myself.