Left 4 Dead

[NVM]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Left4Dead_Windows_cover.jpg

Left 4 Dead is an online multiplayer co-op, survival horror, first person shootan' game devolved by Valve Corporation and being released for the PC and 360 on Nov. 4(NA) and 7(EU), 2008.

The gameplay involves the players being one of the four set survivors, in which the players need to go from Point A to Point B and fight off a number of zombies on their way. Everytime you play a different scenario the way zombies attack are randomized so the experience is always different.
There's also a deathmatch mode in which the players play as a special type of zombies or something.

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[Shmuh]

THIS is the goddamn game I'm looking forward too. I can already imagine the crazy hijynx us explosm steamers will get ourselves into, and the massive amounts of swearing coming from vent. :hmm:

[Matterialize]

Everyone loves zombie mod on CS:S (and probably 1.6), so Valve sat there and went 'Hey, let's do it for reals.' Looks fuggin sweet.

I remember reading about this awhile ago. In multiplayer, the player zombies will get to choose from different zombie classes, each with their own different strengths and abilities. That zombie-Hulk-gorilla lookin guy is probably one of those.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh man this looks sweet. A definite 360 buy for me. Does anyone know anything about that "witch" thing?

[Cid]

That "witch" thing is a highly aggressive old hag who attacks you if you make too many noises or turn your light on around her. She will pounce at a single person and kill him/her pretty quickly.

[Assassin]

I would just like to mention that that is the most ugliest cover I've ever seen.

Oh yeah, and the whole being a zombie thing sounds really cool

[Umbra]

This game looks really sweet, as do most things valve makes. I had a few questions though. Can it be played with less that 4 players? Is there an offline or lan mode? Is there any actual story line (such as in HL2) or is it just mindlessly killing zombies (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

The part where you can be zombies or whatever it is sounds really cool too.

[RaveRaveRave]

That looks so sweet! Will definitely get it for the 360 :).

[NVM]

This game looks really sweet, as do most things valve makes. I had a few questions though. Can it be played with less that 4 players? Is there an offline or lan mode? Is there any actual story line (such as in HL2) or is it just mindlessly killing zombies (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

The part where you can be zombies or whatever it is sounds really cool too.

Well you can play with bots which means you can play offline. You can Lan play for PC, not sure if you can for 360(but since you can lan on TF2 for 360 I'm guessing you can).
I don't know if there's even a story but they've mentioned things liked NPCs so maybe.

I would just like to mention that that is the most ugliest cover I've ever seen.
You'd think that they'd make it a left hand. :ahe:

[peteaboda1]

This is when I really wish I had a better PC. Or hopefully the 360 version is much better than team fortress 2 on the 360. Either way it looks amazing.

[fisdunctional]

This is when I really wish I had a better PC. Or hopefully the 360 version is much better than team fortress 2 on the 360. Either way it looks amazing.

I didn't think that Tf2 was that bad on the 360. I can't wait for this game, but how will the communication work for the 360, will it be headset or just the menu? Anybody know? And I can not wait to be a zombie, sounds awesome.

[peteaboda1]

I didn't think that Tf2 was that bad on the 360. I can't wait for this game, but how will the communication work for the 360, will it be headset or just the menu? Anybody know? And I can not wait to be a zombie, sounds awesome.

How would communication work without headsets on a console? They would have to be crazy not to have voice communication in game for the consoles. Thinking about it now, this may be a better purchase for the 360 because it will always play differently. I was worried because it is a valve game which are always better on PC, and the availability of mods and free online on PC. Plus, the only friend I know who is getting this is getting it for PC. I guess I am just still skeptical about how the online community will be on 360.

[fisdunctional]

How would communication work without headsets on a console? They would have to be crazy not to have voice communication in game for the consoles. Thinking about it now, this may be a better purchase for the 360 because it will always play differently. I was worried because it is a valve game which are always better on PC, and the availability of mods and free online on PC. Plus, the only friend I know who is getting this is getting it for PC. I guess I am just still skeptical about how the online community will be on 360.

I don't see how they could mod this though, add more guns or faster zombies? I don't see how they could totally change it like with the other valve games. I think that it will have plenty of community, no matter what I can always find about 15-20 Tf2 games, and this game looks better to me so there will always be games going.

[KrazyKellen]

A zombie game made by valve, it's like a dream come true.

[MrDoctor]

I've been looking forward to this game since I heard about it. I really like the idea how the spawn points for zombies isn't set. It really makes the game more like a real life like zombie survival.

[Prawnatron]

This looks so awesome, me and my mates already have dibs on who's which character.

[peteaboda1]

I've been looking forward to this game since I heard about it. I really like the idea how the spawn points for zombies isn't set. It really makes the game more like a real life like zombie survival.

Oh, so you had that outbreak in your town too?

[RessXalcor]

I've been waiting for this game since I first heard of it, I love Valve and I love Zombies. It's like the best of both worlds. PLUS just watch the first video, :35 seconds into it.... Ohh my god What the Fuck is turned overdrive.

[MrDoctor]

Oh, so you had that outbreak in your town too?

No but I can assume that if one did happen the zombies wouldn't keep spawing in the same places.

[Mirrorman]

If one would happen, you couldn't start over if you died.

[Sarge51]

I am looking forward to this. But I kind of wished the Zombies didn't seem so fast. Zombies are usually slow and stupid. But these are like mega zombies.

[Mirrorman]

Maybe they we're playing on hard or something? They seemed pretty weak though.

[peteaboda1]

Sarge, watch 28 days later. They also explained in one of the developer interviews that they only turn insane if they notice you, they act like idiots otherwise. Lights and gunshots make them go insane.

[Mirrorman]

That isn't 28 days later though. And you can't say that it does that always, since they don't exist and shit, you know.

[peteaboda1]

He said zombies are usually slow and stupid, so I gave him an example of when they are fast, like the ones in Left 4 Dead. I also don't really get what the second part of your post means, but I think it has to do with not being able to predict when they are dumb, I can try to fish out the developer interview if you want.

edit: Wait, reading it again that isn't really what you meant, I think it has to do with knowing when they will turn insane? Either way I can get the developer interview so you don't have to argue. I am just going by what he said in the interview.

[Sarge51]

I hardly remember 28 Days Later. But Dawn of the Dead is a good example of running zombies.

[MrDoctor]

The only reason they made them fast was probably so it would be less predictable. If they were just super slow they would be too easy to defend and predict what they were gonna do.

[RessXalcor]

The only reason they made them fast was probably so it would be less predictable. If they were just super slow they would be too easy to defend and predict what they were gonna do.

yeah nothing is more scarier than having a bunch of zombies run at you, slow zombies are not really scary at all, and if you add slow why not add stupid and retarded. It wouldn't make much of a game, I just really hope that the scenarios don't suck, I mean a game where you just get here and there is not much of a game either. I really hope they add some more too it.

[MrDoctor]

It wouldn't make a sucky game it would just make a more predictable game. Thats just not the kind of game they want.

[Matterialize]

That isn't 28 days later though. And you can't say that it does that always, since they don't exist and shit, you know.

It also isn't whatever movie or game it was that first suggested zombies are slow and dumb.

These guys above me have it, though. Fast zombies are scary as fuck, slow zombies are funny as fuck. Dead Rising is a really funny game. Left 4 Dead looks scary, which is how they wanted it.

[Pachycephelosaurus]

yeah nothing is more scarier than having a bunch of zombies run at you, slow zombies are not really scary at all, and if you add slow why not add stupid and retarded. It wouldn't make much of a game...

Yeah, who would buy a game like that?
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I do, however, agree that faster zombies WILL make a better game. Watching the gameplay movies really makes me excited to play this. It may actually force people on XBL to use teamwork. How novel.

[Tempest]

New gameplay video was posted 2 days ago. (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21204) Looks fuckin' awesome.

EDIT: My mistake, there are also two (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21208) more (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21207).

[RessXalcor]

Holy crap that first video kicks ass, And you can pick up objects like propane tanks? I didn't know that, I guess you can pick up anything like in the half-life games. I wonder if there's a stage where you can use items to block an area, like tables and such.

[Derelict]

Seeing as zombies aren't real, I don't think there's a realistic way for them to move. They could only speak in verses of Shakespeare for all we know.

This game looks fucking sweet, though. I can't wait to play on Live with some buddies.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Those movies are sweet. The only thing that looks annoying is the "Don't shoot teammates" But I'm sure you can turn that off.

[junglebunny]

The only thing that bothers me about this game is that they use "4" instead of "for".

[Cyan]

This game is must buy for me. I have been waiting for zombie game with co-op my whole life, and this will hopefully be what I'm looking for.

This alone was a good enough reason for me to buy an Xbox. Poor PS3 players.

[Hawke]

Unfortunatley this doesn't look like it breaks any new ground in terms of zombie killing.

[Cyan]

Unfortunatley this doesn't look like it breaks any new ground in terms of zombie killing.

It does have co-op and nice graphics though

[Mr. Crow]

Those zombies are terrifyingly fast. In the video in Tempest's link, at 2:05, the zombie fucking leaps twenty feet through the air like a bullet, tackling one of the players. :wail:

[Lag]

The only thing that bothers me about this game is that they use "4" instead of "for".

It's to represent the 4 that are left behind for better or worse, or, for dead. It's a double play on words and turn-a-phrase. So more grammatically understandable, 4 left for dead.

[I_Smell]

Cos there's 4 guys.

[NVM]

Cos there's 4 guys.

No, one's a girl :P.

[junglebunny]

I thought they were trying to be XTREME!!!

Not as gay now, I guess.

[NVM]

Valve is good at making cinematics and goofy looking black people:

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[Benjaman]

So that's what Hulk would look like as a zombie.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Holy shit that was awesome.
"Son we just crossed the street"

[Homemaster]

THAT WAS FREAKING AMAZING.

Sat with my mouth open the whole time. I. Love. Valve.

NVM you are my hero for posting that.

[Tempest]

Oh my fucking god the demo is amazing. I chucked a pipe bomb down into a group of them, and they all swarmed around it like it was a human brain or something. I must have taken out 20 of them with it. Apparently though, the sound attracts other zombies, because holy shit I got swarmed. I also set off a car alarm, which resulted in an even bigger swarm.

[Lag]

That Mohawk guy can make anything a one-liner.
"Merry Christmas"

[Tempest]

Okay so me and Matterialize just played with a couple of randoms through the two levels that the demo gives you, and I could already see the dynamic functionality at work. Supposedly everything is supposed to be dynamically generated (Kind of like Spore), so no two playthroughs are the same. I went to go snag a pipe bomb from a spot I had found on my solo playthrough, only to discover it wasn't there. A small weapons cache had also been moved further into the level, much to my dismay. It's awesome, but to be honest I don't see myself playing these two levels over and over, I'm probably done with the demo until a couple more people here get it (So we can do some 4-person without randoms), or until the game comes out.

[NVM]

For the most part my computer can't run this(despite running TF2), so if anyone has a demo code for the Xbawks version they should give it to me.

[Tempest]

Ho-ly-fuck. Me and 3 friends just decided to run it through on Expert/Insane/whatever and it was fucking ridiculous. When I played solo earlier I was activating the car alarms and shit on purpose just to kill more zombies, but on expert you HAVE to avoid them. If you get boomered or something, it's fucking game over, that zombie horde will destroy you.

[Homemaster]

Hey Tempest, me and a friend got the demo, my steam is thehomemaster, i want to try this BAD.

[Homemaster]

Wow, just bought the prorder so I could play the demo.

It is such good fun. So many times I got jumped, playing with my jaw on the floor. Great graphics, real dingy, and the AI ain't half bad. Voice really helps when playing online.

When I watched the gameplay videos I thought little of the mass amounts of zombies attacking the players. When they are attacking you (on expert!!!) it's time to shit yourself and hope you don't run out of bullets.

EDIT: double post, ehh it's 3 am

[Matterialize]

Finally beat Expert after retrying the subway level about four times. We kept getting raped by a Tank. Is there a tactical way to kill them, or is someone pretty much guaranteed to die every time?

It's pretty cool when people start working together though. Stuff like covering your buds, crouching when you're in front so people behind you can get a better shot, y'know. I'm also surprised at how quickly my teammates react to one of us getting constricted/downed, I figured I would see a lot more assholes playing this.

[Cyan]

I saw a video on the 411 site on how to bug a tank and kill it...
http://left4dead411.com/news/2008/11/beat-a-tank-video/

[Homemaster]

My lone friend killed one with two molotovs after we were all killed. I reckon hunters are by far the scariest, I nearly have a heart attack everytime I get pounced. I hate being vomited on too, that always ends badly.

[Tempest]

Me and Matterialize are awesome and we trounced through it on advanced. We didn't want to try expert with two NPCs because they can be pretty useless at times, though we did find the ultimate strategy for the witch, if she's in the final room of the 2nd chapter with the machine gun turret. Matt got on the turret, and I lobbed a molotov right in her face. He mowed her down before she even got halfway to us.

The tank, on the other hand, facefucked Zoey because she tried to fight it head on. Then it downed me and I capped it with my pistol until that bitch fell. We ran into so many fucking boss zombies it wasn't funny.

[Matterialize]

Also, the last room is cake on any difficulty if you do this:

1. Find the two gas cans and place them a respectable distance from the gun on either side.
2. Get one guy on the gun and everyone else in the room.
3. Flip switch, shoot both gas cans.
4. Zombies can now only travel over the generator, which is covered by the guy on the gun easily, and up through the floor, which has the other three teammates on it. Smooth sailing.

Tank strategy which apparently works but I haven't tried yet:

1. Pull the tank.
2. Climb on top of something. (car, dumpster, whatever).
3. Jump off while the tank tries to climb up.
4. Jump back on as the tank jumps down.

Everyone's shooting it while this is going on, of course. They're dangerous, but slower at moving vertically than you are.

[jontheninja]

I wanna play with you guys I bought it.

[Matterialize]

So, the demo is now available to everybody. Anyone gonna download it and join the fight?

I totally outsmarted a tank earlier today in the subway tunnels. So he pops outta nowhere and kills two of my teammates, right, (both had low health) and chases after another guy, knocking him to the ground. I threw a molotov to distract the tank, but that didn't work, so I ran up and melee'd him to get his attention. I hopped a railing and lead him back downstairs, then made him chase me in circles around the ticket booth. It was at that point that I began putting shotgun rounds in his face. Worked like a charm, fucker never laid a hand on me.

[Cyan]

I was playing on expert with a friend and 2 bots and while walking in one of the train, a horde of zombies appear. Easy enough we think, because they are easy to spray with your gun and kill in such a small room. My friend starts yelling and I turn around noticing a tank.

We died in seconds.

[LandMarkMoon]

Any reviews out for this game yet? I'm super excited, just finished Gears 2 LOVED IT, I hope this game lives up to the hype aswell.

[jontheninja]

Matt would you liek to play with me I would love that.

[degoroth]

Downloading the demo now. Hope to play soon.

[Gudizere]

I've spent the past 2 and a half hours waiting for some stroppy sweedish faggot to download so we can be a team and everything. Much ragequitting and argueing has ensued, and it looks like we wont get to play untill tomorrow. Fucking co-op games.

[Matterialize]

Has anyone else seen a boomer randomly explode? I knew they do it when you shoot them, but I didn't know they were ticking time bombs.

[LandMarkMoon]

There are Boomers in this game too?

[mermanlikesboobies]

I AM SOOO GETTING THAT GAME!!!!!!!!!!

[NVM]

I have played the demo 5 times through already, have yet to try isnane.
God damn, this is the perfect zombie game.

Oh and if anyone wants to play a 360(lol Valve game on consoles) run, I'm game.

[Shmuh]

Playing with all these people who have never played before is the worst. We died at the same place 4 times. 4 TIMES.

Other then that, it's an amazing game. It scary as hell and extremely fun. Will buy.

[fisdunctional]

Hey, NVM. I'm in for a round on the 360, I am downloading it tonight. So what about tomorrow night? It should give me some time to get used to it.

[Homemaster]

I think we should organise to team up with people in these forums. I just thought of this cause my friends aren't in this country, and and I don't want to PuG the whole campaign.

So, work out groups of 4 and when you will on, then DO IT. It has to be good if the demo keeps me so engaged.

[Sarge51]

Playing with all these people who have never played before is the worst. We died at the same place 4 times. 4 TIMES.

Other then that, it's an amazing game. It scary as hell and extremely fun. Will buy.

Sounds like what happened to me not long ago. Kept dying at the end of the demo.

I love this game, it's almost better than Dead Rising when it comes to Zombie games. Even though, the guys in this game don't seem like Zombies. But I still love it. It's hard as hell sometimes, but it doesn't piss me off for some reason. I love getting swarmed by a fleet of them and come out with minor bruises or sometimes your whole team gets raped at once because someone decided to throw a Molotov while we were getting bum rushed.

I only wish the demo had more than one level. It seemed way too short. But I am definitely picking this up. Not sure if I am going to get it for PC or 360, though. I've been playing the demo on the PC.

[Prisefighter_Inferno]

Yeah, I've yet to beat it on expert due to the fact that every time I try I get stuck playing with morons. For some reason they feel the need to spread out and run ahead leaving me to get picked off by a hunter or smoker in some far corner. Other than that this game is sweet, can't wait for full release.

[Sarge51]

Some people can suck at the game pretty well, but playing on single-player ruins the fun of the game, because they usually always have a medkit on hand and they'll save you just as soon as you get pinned. Doesn't really seem horrifying. But online you think "Is anyone going to get to me in time?!"

The demo didn't really scare me, but there was this one time where I thought I was fucked. We were down in the subway, going down the escalator things and I was sticking behind everyone. Eventually they started to go down the ramps and I took one step forward when a smoker behind me grabbed me and scared me then pulled me up the ramp and I died. I guess you'd have to be playing to feel the scariness. I spectated for a good while before being randomly spawned somewhere.

[Gudizere]

My god, that game is perfect. Me and 3 friends blitzed through it on normal, and it is the perfect blend of horror, action and awesome. Its only £20 from Amazon too, so pre-ordered.

[Matterialize]

For some reason they feel the need to spread out and run ahead

Yes, it's irritating when people decide to ditch the whole 'teamwork' thing and just rambo it. On the other hand, though, you don't want to stick around in one place for very long. I hear the AI director is pretty unforgiving to people who wait around in the same place for awhile.

It seemed way too short.

True, but at least that one level makes you want to play over and over. I have yet to get bored of it.

[Homemaster]

Yeah, never stay still for too long. Pity the randoms I have been playing with constantly get in the way, spread out and use pipe bombs when they really don't need to.

[Pachycephelosaurus]

I've been playing the 360 demo all day, and it's fucking awesome. The only problem I have is that there are a lot of retarded people that like to run off and get themselves killed or stand in front of you while you're trying to kill zombies.

[opn4bzns]

Played the pc demo a bit. It's quite fun and teamwork works well, but I didn't find it very scary, and I'm usually pretty easily scared, it could do with more weapon variety and levels, but obviously that'll be in the full game.

[Sarge51]

Oh yeah, if you stay in one spot for too long a horde of them will come out of nowhere and attack you. I think that's awesome and adds to the games survival feel. You got to keep moving until you find somewhere completely safe, otherwise they'll find you.

Anyone else out there who can't help but make car alarms go off any chance you get?

I tried it on Expert difficulty on the demo with CPU players. We did decent until we got to the Subway and the Hunters and Witches got us. Witches are fucking evil. Never got to complete it. I gave up, couldn't even get to the last room.

What I love about this game is that anyone can pick up what weapon they want. There's no, "Hey give me the Shotgun, you noob!".

[BKS]

Downloading the 360 demo today. I hope to play it for a long time, but is it online multiplayer?

[Ercoledi]

From what I gather, that's the essence of the game. You can have bots, but it's geared towards online multiplayer.

Of course, I could be talking out of my ass. A friend just suggested I buy it, so I had a quick look through the thread.

[Cyan]

Downloading the 360 demo today. I hope to play it for a long time, but is it online multiplayer?

It's online, singeplayer and splitscreen.

(I haven't actually tried the splitscreen myself, but I can see the option on the screen)

[gagins]

Just finished the demo less then 5 minutes ago on steam. Definitely gonna buy it, pre-purchase. The graphics were sweet, especially when those Boomers 'sploded.

[The Muffin Man]

Holy shit. Fisdunctional and I played the demo for a good solid 2 hours last night and I must say this game is incredible. THe enviroments make the game. When you walk into a dark room with a single lit up circle in the center of the screen it is truly intense.

I really like how when you shoot your light plays all over the screen, it makes for some fucking intense moments when you just see arms, limbs and mouths dancing over your screen all trying to get a hol of you and kill you.

And those tanks, horrifying.


This game is absolutely incredible.

[FuriousPineapple]

Smokers are by far my favorite. Me and 3 others were walking down one of the streets when a tongue comes out of nowhere, wraps around my friend, and just fucking starts pulling him up the side of a huge building. Then we all look up and see the shadow way up there on the edge of the building.

Can you play as boss zombies like Smokers in versus?

[Matterialize]

Anyone else out there who can't help but make car alarms go off any chance you get?
Sometimes, I do it and rush down to the saferoom and stand in the open door with my pistols out. The zombies run in a straight line towards me, so it's easy pickins'.

Yep, you'll be able to be any of the boss zombies EXCEPT witches. Those are always NPC. And you can only spawn as a Tank once per round, and that's only if the director lets you, because Tanks are.. well, tanks.

I read that if you idle too long as a tank, you lose control of it and it becomes an NPC. It's an anti-camp measure, prevents the survivors from being instantly raped.

[NVM]

It's online, singeplayer and splitscreen.

(I haven't actually tried the splitscreen myself, but I can see the option on the screen)

Splitscreen works fine, you can take your friend online too which is a plus.

[FuriousPineapple]

Yep, you'll be able to be any of the boss zombies EXCEPT witches.

Awesome. I can't wait to lurk in the shadows and pull people in. Can you pick or is it random? I suppose I should go look some info up.

[Matterialize]

I think you get to pick, same as the survivors. The option to choose the tank might just be unavailable until the director says so, or something, I dunno.

[Ercoledi]

From what I gather, it's subject to limitations; you can only, for example, have one Tank at a time. I downloaded the demo just now and it is awesome. Fucking sweet.

Is there any benefit to getting the physical copy, other than it being physical?

[Tempest]

I believe you get to pick between Smoker and Hunter. A tank is randomly assigned, and if the tank is not constantly moving and attacking, they die. If you sit around as a tank, you are kicked out and it's given to someone else.

[opn4bzns]

Is there any benefit to getting the physical copy, other than it being physical?

No, and the steam one will be a lot cheaper if the aus dollar goes back up. The prices are always in usd, but they don't change it, so when the dollar's decent games are basically half retail price.

[Shmuh]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6627/l4dfd0.png
I no clipped onto a building, turned on infinite swarm, made it so there was 120 zombies in each swarm, warped all the survivors to where I was, and let the killing begin!

note:
warp_survivors_here - Warps survivors to wherever you are.
z_common_limit 120 - Increase the number of zombies in a swarm to whatever amount.
god 1 - No damage is taken away.
director_panic_forever - Panic events (car alarm, mini-finale) don't end until you reach the safehouse, they just keep coming.
director_force_panic_event - Starts a panic event, as though you had set of the car alarm or something.
noclip - hurr
give weaponname - Give you whatever weapon you wish.

[Lag]

Aahahaha
GotNTtt1NNQ

[Knight of Cydonia]

After seeing all of these vid's I know now I must buy this game. It's proven to me that it is worth it getting it without online play.

[Homemaster]

Nice video Lag, i laughed out loud.

[Richard_Simmons]

That video is fucking hilarious, Lag.

[FuriousPineapple]

I wish I still had my capture card, I would have some hilarious ones too. I was playing today with a few friends, and we decided to all find the tank, then make a run back to the safehouse. So it was in the room it's usually in, the empty one with all the pillars. We make an epic run all the back through a horde that appears, losing a man on the way. The two are a bit up ahead, and as I'm going up the last set of stairs I get raked by a few zombies. I quickly spin around and blow them away, but I'm in the red now as I limp toward the wrecked out room with the safe door above it. Once I'm up the rocks I'm down to like 20 health, but I am relieved as I get through the door where my friends are waiting for me. I turn around to close it, and hit X just as a fucking tongue wraps around me, pulling me back down toward the stairs as the door closes when I pass through it. The Smoker constricts me as the Tank comes lumbering around the corner and just facefucks me.

[Matterialize]

Can't the tank rip off the safehouse door?

[junglebunny]

So I got the demo an this game is really. It just makes me feel like I'm in a zombie movie.

I just hate when you get stuck playing with overly strategic faggots that want to just hide in the bathroom for literally 20 minutes. On normal.

Oh and one of my favorite things to do is get to the last safehouse in the demo and kill everyone and close the door so that I'm the only survivor. I always try to explain to them that there wasn't enough food or something

[Ercoledi]

I haven't played online yet, so how has everyone found the play experience to be different? So far, I've only played about an hour in total, so that's a few runs in singleplayer normal.

[Prawnatron]

Could you download this with an XBOX LIVE silver account?

[FuriousPineapple]

Can't the tank rip off the safehouse door?

I wouldn't know, it was shot enough times already that after I emptied my pistols into it and they shot at it through the door it was killed.

EDIT: ...can it?

[Assassin]

Could you download this with an XBOX LIVE silver account?
Yeah, I think you can

[Sarge51]

Can't the tank rip off the safehouse door?

Yes. Yes he can. and I found that out the hard way. We were playing and one guy said, "If I see a Tank I am fucking running." and when the Tank appeared we got raped, and while we were getting owned he had gotten all the way to the beginning of the second part of the level. He closed the safehouse door and waited. A few seconds of him saying "Oh Shit" on his microphone the Tank finally appears, jumps up the rocks, tears down the door and beats down the guy. It was hilarious.

[Cyan]

"the beginning of the second part of the level?" that's just the beginning of the the subway level, right?

I tried to run back to the safehouse with a friend everytime we saw a tank. We hid in the bathroom(To get the "Oh shit!" effect when would be able to hear it outside, and suddenly it rips the door open.). It never came, even though we were positive it had followed. The sounds of it died down, and we went outside and noticed it was dead.

We tried it twice. Same thing happened. How could you actually test if it could destroy that safehouse door?

[Matterialize]

I'm not sure why it would just up and die like that, maybe somebody threw a molotov at it early on? That's usually what happens when I play.

[Cyan]

We played with 2 bots, and we're pretty sure none of them threw a molotov. I don't even think bots can throw molotovs.

[Lance]

I want to download the demo so bad but I stupidly gave my age as 16 when I registered for Xbox Live, leading to Parental Controls, and no matter if I say "Any Game Can Be Played" (as in M) it still won't let me download it. Seriously, can someone help me out with this?

[Prawnatron]

I want to download the demo so bad but I stupidly gave my age as 16 when I registered for Xbox Live, leading to Parental Controls, and no matter if I say "Any Game Can Be Played" (as in M) it still won't let me download it. Seriously, can someone help me out with this?

I was gonna say use a fake email, but you obviously made yours already and are paying for it so.. I'm not sure?

[FuriousPineapple]

So who's getting this? I was considering getting to tomorrow, but I have some a lot going on this week so I may pick it up on Saturday. Anyone else getting it this weekend, or all you all purchasing it tomorrow?

[Cyan]

I want to download the demo so bad but I stupidly gave my age as 16 when I registered for Xbox Live, leading to Parental Controls, and no matter if I say "Any Game Can Be Played" (as in M) it still won't let me download it. Seriously, can someone help me out with this?

I don't remember the different settings, but I'm pretty sure there's a download option one aswell.

Sure you may be allowed to play it, but are you allowed to download it?

I'm 17 and it works for me at least.

EDIT: I'm getting it this friday. Hopefully. I'll be rushing down to the store after school, and hopefully it wont be sold out. I have to buy 2 copies aswell, the other one is for my cousin, and he says if I only get one copy, it's his.

Riiiight..

[Dodger]

It comes out online before in stores right?

I wanna buy it but I don't have a credit card. Urggh

[Gudizere]

Comes out 9 hours on Steam, and on the 21st in hard copy. Atleast, in Europe, I dont know about the US.

[Tempest]

Game is now playable on Steam.

EDIT: Ohmygodohmygodohmygod, playing as an infected is fucking AWESOME. You get to run around in ghost mode until you find a suitable place to spawn. Then you spawn, and it assigns you a special zombie class. I only played Hunter. I spawned myself below the survivors, climbed a pipe behind them, and snuck up on them. I didn't realize you have to crouch to attack as a hunter, so I ran into a group of them left-clicking like mad. When I finally figured it out, I pounced Zoey (who can blame me), and right at the same time a horde of zombies rushes and basically surrounded us so they couldn't save her.

Raped her face off. :clint:

[Homemaster]

Sounds good to me! Downloading now.

[IronWire]

I'm having problems playing the demo online (pc) I get into a game lobby, we get 4 players, find a dedicated server and everytime I get to the load screen I get disconnected after a 5 minute wait, anyone else can help? (Fucking awesome game by the way)

[Axidos]

Y'all could benefit from this advice now that the game's out: 10 Protips: Don't be "that guy". (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750438)

It's a guide on how to play effectively within a team. All of you should read it, even if you think you know what you're doing.

[hardcoresk8r69]

I never laughed so hard on versus. On the last level of the "No Mercy" Campaign..

On top of the Hospital building before the heli arrives, one of us became a tank and threw a rock at Zoey. As she was getting up the Tank wound up and just sent her flying. I saw here go airborne right off the building and her yelling fade away. It happened so suddenly and I cried from laughter. Tank are beasts

[Ercoledi]

Y'all could benefit from this advice now that the game's out: 10 Protips: Don't be "that guy". (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750438)

It's a guide on how to play effectively within a team. All of you should read it, even if you think you know what you're doing.
Cool, I didn't realise you could jump off the roof.

[Sarge51]

We tried it twice. Same thing happened. How could you actually test if it could destroy that safehouse door?

Well, see what I did to test it out was at the beginning of the subway level, I binded "kill Louis; kill Zoey; kill Bill" to a key. (I always play as francis on single player.) Pressed the key and then spawned a tank right outside the safehouse door, actually I tried one, then 4 at a time. They don't seem to break down the door unless you remove the metal bar first. But once you do that it seems they can break it down on their first hit or it can take a few seconds. But he CAN break it down.

I also tried killing my team, then spawning a boomer to generate a mob. (Before I realized I can just use the console to spawn a mob.) and see if a certain amount of zombies can break through the safehouse door, but they don't seem to even try to attack it.

Anyone try using the 'noclip' cheat in the demo and go through the safehouse door at the end of the demo? You can explore the hospital or some strange building. There's also a minature city and a moon under the level that you can't seem to land on.

Sucks the demo is over. But I am definitely picking it up, and for the PC, too. I never get games for the PC if it's on a console. But, now that I've played the demo on the PC it just feels right to continue playing on it.

[Homemaster]

Wow, versus is awesome. Was really laggy, but being a boomer or hunter was hella fun. Playing through No Mercy campaign before, only got halfway through 3rd chapter! Very hard. Surprisingly, achievements are easy to get! Except the "complete campaign on expert" ones....

[Lance]

Finally got around to playing it for a good while, and holy crap it is awesome. Though I wish my teammates would stop making the car alarm go off and attracting the Witch (mainly the latter, the car alarm is tolerable at times)

Gotta say my most awesome moment is when all my teammates went into the first safe room, and I was like "Wtf" and then at least 30 zombies come rushing down the stairs and I take care of all of them with my FISTS. Now that's badass (though it was only normal or advanced). I didn't know you could open it from the outside, it was my first time through.

[Matterialize]

Finally got around to playing it for a good while, and holy crap it is awesome. Though I wish my teammates would stop making the car alarm go off and attracting the Witch (mainly the latter, the car alarm is tolerable at times)



If you've got tier 2 weapons, a witch only takes a few seconds to kill if everyone concentrates their fire on her. I read somewhere that boss zombie HP does not increase with difficulty, only the damage they do. Could be wrong though.

[enylrahc321]

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[FuriousPineapple]

Damn you guys are making this sound awesome. Since I'm not reading any spoiler tags, how come the one person said he had never laughed so hard on "versus" and then went right into something about the campaign? Do you play versus in the campaign or something? I don't see how that would work.

[Intestiny Destiny]

It's fun. I wish it was better and had more of a survival or RPG feel to it. It's too arcade like.

[Dodger]

To anyone that's bought it.

Is there anything more to it than just shooting zombies?
Don't get me wrong I love to shoot some motherfucking zombies, I was just wondering if all the levels are repetitive and shite? Are there missions or something that makes you strategize or just zombies throughout?

[SODA]

The only thing that intrigues me about this game is how fast the zombies are and the way they move, it is totally unlike any other game. Other than that the graphics look like poop and the gameplay looks like every other game made using the source engine.

[Andrey]

I think the co-op is what makes it all fun.

[BKS]

Aahahaha
GotNTtt1NNQ

Don't laugh. I was with this kid who was like "OH SHNAP! OH SHNAP!" at every second and would run and hide instead of reviving. It was annoying as fuck.

[Homemaster]

It's fun. I wish it was better and had more of a survival or RPG feel to it. It's too arcade like.

I often feel the need to survive in this game, particularly when I'm out of bullets/low on health with no med packs/last man standing against a tank. RPG? Wrong game, I'm glad it isn't like RE whatever

To anyone that's bought it.

Is there anything more to it than just shooting zombies?
Don't get me wrong I love to shoot some motherfucking zombies, I was just wondering if all the levels are repetitive and shite? Are there missions or something that makes you strategize or just zombies throughout?

It's the same map everrytime, but the AI "director" chooses where the zombies goes, when tanks come out, where the ammo is (and how much of it there is). Yeah, all you do is shoot zombies, but trust me, no play through is the same. Plans never stay in contact with the enemy. There are bits at the end of certain sections where you have time to prepare and certain tactics can be set up. No other game I've ever played required so much communication between players.

The only thing that intrigues me about this game is how fast the zombies are and the way they move, it is totally unlike any other game. Other than that the graphics look like poop and the gameplay looks like every other game made using the source engine.

Graphics aren't poop, it's just Source, and I reckon it's doing a damn fine job. I'd rather have a good game like L4D than a pretty looking POS. Also, this isn't CS zombie mod, and definitely isn't a nightmare version of TF2. The gameplay is different from those games, so I have no idea what you are on about.

My only complaint: Achievements. Some are WAY too easy, and when you get them they pop up in all capitals, looks ugly. Then again, some are really fucking hard.

[Matterialize]

Some that I thought would be hard ended up really easy, one being "kill a witch without her dealing damage to a survivor." I hit her with a molotov to pull her, so I ended up actually getting two achievements.

Has anyone gotten "Man Vs. Tank" or "Tankbusters"? Those are gonna be a bitch.

[BKS]

I find the best way to kill Tanks, atleast in the demo, would be to hit them with a molotov, and have the players go in for different directs, but still staying visual to eachother. When it goes after someone, they run, all the while everyone else fires. If that person goes down, you have a solid 3-5 seconds to open up whatever guns you have right into its head without retaliation to you. He focuses on the downed player.

[Cyan]

I was playing the demo with a friend(Full game still not released in Europe for xbox), and we decided to see how far we could run from a witch. We killed both our NPC's so they wouldn't shoot her and distract her, and then my friend threw a molotov at her.

We ran for our lives immediately and we closed one door to slow her down. I turned around and saw the door being destroyed while a flaming witch came closer. I went, "Oh shit!, and turned around to keep running. I turned around again and saw this fireball like thing run towards me while screaming. Fucking scary.

We turned around a corner and stayed there for a while, when suddenly the witch screams stopped. We went outside and saw her lying dead a few meters away from us.

Fucking awesome.

[SODA]

:stfu:

So if its one map and the graphics are poop why should I pay full price for it?

[Intestiny Destiny]

I often feel the need to survive in this game, particularly when I'm out of bullets/low on health with no med packs/last man standing against a tank. RPG? Wrong game, I'm glad it isn't like RE whatever

I'm not saying it should be like RE. I'm saying it's way too linear and some depth would be nice. But hey, this game will get boring in about a month.

[Phrozt]

I can't seem to find the demo anywhere. Maybe it's just the NXE that's lagging or something.

Has anyone DLed it on the NXE?

[Lag]

I'm not saying it should be like RE. I'm saying it's way too linear and some depth would be nice. But hey, this game will get boring in about a month.

Have you played versus? I mean sure, everyone goes zombie and you face like one guy and 3 AI, but hot damn.

[FuriousPineapple]

I've been playing the demo since it came out and have a blast every time I doubt it will get boring too soon.

[Tempest]

So if its one map and the graphics are poop why should I pay full price for it?

If you think it's one map then you clearly not only haven't played the full version, but haven't even put any research into it.

[SODA]

If you think it's one map then you clearly not only haven't played the full version, but haven't even put any research into it.


It's the same map everrytime, but the AI "director" chooses where the zombies goes, when tanks come out, where the ammo is (and how much of it there is).

[junglebunny]

That's research right there, youbetcha.

[SODA]

Why do I need to research when I am responding to something someone else said?

[junglebunny]

I don't know I just like being an internet badass :cool:

[SODA]

Fair enough.

[Tempest]

Basically what I'm saying is if you're going to trash the game at least get your facts straight otherwise you look like a moron.

[Matterialize]

It's the same map every time if you choose to play only that map every time, yes.

[SODA]

Basically what I'm saying is if you're going to trash the game at least get your facts straight otherwise you look like a moron.

I wasn't trashing it, I was commenting on what homemaster said.

[Homemaster]

OK, sorry, I caused this!

There are 20 maps, but everytime you play one the zombies and stuff are different, randomly spawn all over the place. Throw in human adversaries or team mates and you are looking at a different play through every time.

And Intestiny - this game wasn't designed with those ideas in mind so....play something else? I'm still playing TF2 after a year.

[Matterialize]

Me and Lag just finished a Versus match.

Holy shit, playing as an infected is balls awesome. You have to plan and use teamwork even more than the survivors, but it's awesome if you pull off an ambush. In the finale of No Mercy, they were all making a run for the radio room but Francis was straggling behind. Being a Smoker, I reeled him in pretty quick - then my teammates (2 Hunters and a Boomer) gang raped the other three and cut them off. They barely survived that first attack - Francis' health was in the green when I took him, and I'm pretty sure he was on the brink of death by the time his teammates could get back to help him.

Anyway they were still in real bad shape. The rest of my team finished them off before I even respawned.

Then we switched up, and our whole team got into the helicopter alive.

[hardcoresk8r69]

Me and Lag just finished a Versus match.

Holy shit, playing as an infected is balls awesome. You have to plan and use teamwork even more than the survivors, but it's awesome if you pull off an ambush. In the finale of No Mercy, they were all making a run for the radio room but Francis was straggling behind. Being a Smoker, I reeled him in pretty quick - then my teammates (2 Hunters and a Boomer) gang raped the other three and cut them off. They barely survived that first attack - Francis' health was in the green when I took him, and I'm pretty sure he was on the brink of death by the time his teammates could get back to help him.

Anyway they were still in real bad shape. The rest of my team finished them off before I even respawned.

Then we switched up, and our whole team got into the helicopter alive.

Yeah, Versus matches are either you rape the other team or the other team rapes you. I'm hoping as people play it more often, they pick up on it. I've played with people who stare at me, reloading, while I get torn apart by a Hunter or strangled by a Smoker. You can melee them off me! Fuckers...

[Matterialize]

I wish I could play as a zombie all the time. I hate when I get switched back to the survivor team now, it's so disappointing.

[Homemaster]

Mind if I add you guys on steam for some fun times?

Best moment so far on versus was when we got into the room (the safe room in demo subway) and then I feel the ground shake.

What the fu.....BOOMMMMMM I go flying.

All crammed in there with nowhere to go.

[Cyan]

You have to be pretty stupid if you think a full game only contains one map :indiff:

The game is coming out tomorrow in my country.. I can't wait!

[FuriousPineapple]

our whole team got into the helicopter alive.

Way to ruin the ending for me, you dick! :argh:

[Cyan]

Way to ruin the ending for me, you dick! :argh:

Way to make sure everyone got to read it, you dick.
It's funny how people will probably read this, and look at the last page to see what they missed, succesfully ruining it for themselves aswell.

[Matterialize]

The objective of Left 4 Dead is to make it to the end of the level alive.

Shit, didn't mean to blow the lid off that one

[BKS]

I can't seem to find the demo anywhere. Maybe it's just the NXE that's lagging or something.

Has anyone DLed it on the NXE?

I dont think its out anymore. My friend couldnt DL it.

[LandMarkMoon]

Ye, the Demo is off NXE I wanted to download it before I made my mind up.

Any of the people that are playing the actual game can give me a heads up on whether the story is deep or is it just a shooter to play with friends? Also another question not a lot of my budds play online. Will I get annoyed at people on NXE shooting me in the back while aiming at zombies? And if so can friendly fire be turned off?

Thanks

[fisdunctional]

I just rented the game. It is deffinatly not worth a buy. The game is way to linear. The campaigns are decent, short and no depth. The actual gameplay is fun, but there is no replay value, I don't care if zombies are in a different place, it still plays basically the same. The attention to detail that Valve is known for is nowhere to be found. The only highlight of this game is the online, and that is because it is awesome playing as a zombie. I don't know about the PC, but I felt extremely let down by Valve.

[Matterialize]

It's basically got the absolute minimum amount of story that a zombie shoot-em-up needs. I haven't encountered any griefers yet, but I hear lots of whining about them so you might run into one on NXE. And no, I don't think you can turn off friendly fire, but I haven't checked.

fisdunctional- that's too bad you're not enjoying it. I disagree with the point about replayability - I don't mind playing the same maps, linear though they may be. There's something addictive about it - spoke to a lot of people that put 10+ hours of gameplay into the demo, and that was before it was available to people who didn't preorder.

OH AND BY THE WAY: If anyone is expecting this to actually have a plot, like the Half-Life games or something, you're going to be disappointed. Left 4 Dead was intended to be a play on cheesy B-List zombie movies, and that was done flawlessly.

[fisdunctional]

There's something addictive about it - spoke to a lot of people that put 10+ hours of gameplay into the demo, and that was before it was available to people who didn't preorder.

I know alot of people who love it. I just think it is just repetative. I have put about 5 hours into the overall game and I just think that I have already done this. Maybe my expectations were way to high because of TF2 and Half life. I just can't seem to get into it.

[Ercoledi]

Ye, the Demo is off NXE I wanted to download it before I made my mind up.

Any of the people that are playing the actual game can give me a heads up on whether the story is deep or is it just a shooter to play with friends? Also another question not a lot of my budds play online. Will I get annoyed at people on NXE shooting me in the back while aiming at zombies? And if so can friendly fire be turned off?

Thanks

Friendly fire can't be turned off.

[LandMarkMoon]

See that's what worries me about not having a real life friends team. Xbox live is known for 13-14 year old obnoxious kids and with no FF control sounds messy, so I don't know if it will be frustrating or fun.

[BKS]

See that's what worries me about not having a real life friends team. Xbox live is known for 13-14 year old obnoxious kids and with no FF control sounds messy, so I don't know if it will be frustrating or fun.

Worst case scenario, you kill them first.

[LandMarkMoon]

Alright, will pick it up as soon as exams are over.

[Matterialize]

I heard there was some sort of reputation system in the works, has anyone else? Stuff like friendly fire gives you really bad rep, helping people (reviving them, giving them pills and such) gives you good rep.

[Ercoledi]

Yup, have a read of this (http://www.left4dead411.com/left-4-dead-preview-pg7).

[LandMarkMoon]

Yup, have a read of this (http://www.left4dead411.com/left-4-dead-preview-pg7).


Excellent.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Homemaster]

Oh man, that rep thing is an awesome idea. I'm going to be a model citizen.

For the record, I've put in 15 hours of the real game and only doing versus. Haven't touched the campaign yet as I'm waiting for friends to do it on expert.

With the comment on detail, I take it you haven't been inside a safe room from being so bad. Chicago Ted is an internet legend!

[Matterialize]

But.. how does it work, though? I see a little dialogue pop up when I save someone or heal someone, etc, but is there a permanent tally of my awards & demerits somewhere that people can see? The rep system seems useless otherwise.

Maybe it's not implemented yet.

[Ercoledi]

I haven't gotten the game yet, but from the sounds of it it hasn't been built in to the game yet. The article makes it seem as if your permanent record is made pretty apparent everytime you try to join a game.

[hardcoresk8r69]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuZvbEPsAg

The mall from the remake of Dawn of the Dead might be coming to Left 4 Dead.

It's being made unofficially so something might come up but this would be sick if it actually happens.

[Rob]

But.. how does it work, though? I see a little dialogue pop up when I save someone or heal someone, etc, but is there a permanent tally of my awards & demerits somewhere that people can see? The rep system seems useless otherwise.

Maybe it's not implemented yet.

I think I read in an interview that they decided to NOT go with the rep system. They were messing around with it earlier, but then went with an in-game slap on the wrist approach instead.

[I_Smell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuZvbEPsAg

The mall from the remake of Dawn of the Dead might be coming to Left 4 Dead.

It's being made unofficially so something might come up but this would be sick if it actually happens.

I was just gonna post that. Modders are amazing.

[Knight of Cydonia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuZvbEPsAg

The mall from the remake of Dawn of the Dead might be coming to Left 4 Dead.

It's being made unofficially so something might come up but this would be sick if it actually happens.

Holy shit. That's amazing... I'm hopping he releases that for Zombie Panic. I'm actually stunned by what he has done.

[Tempest]

What I've heard around the internet is that the dude working on this (Darth_Brush) is notorious for not finishing maps, he has like 4 awesome Zombie Mod maps that he's never finished. Hopefully he'll get this one done though, the adrenaline rush I would feel from killing zombies in the Dawn of the Dead mall would be off the fucking charts.

[Phrozt]

Add me to the list of people who thinks this game is awesome. You folks were correct in saying that the demo was no longer available anywhere after the retail box shipped.

In the first 29 hours that I owned the game, I played for 22 of those hours. I honestly cannot remember the last time I did that with a game. There is DEFINITELY something addictive about this game.

For those of you that aren't too keen on it, make sure you've tried the Versus mode. Campaign wasn't too fun, but versus is amazing.

Also, for anyone on 360, my XBL tag is Phrozty d Drunk.

[FuriousPineapple]

Yes, Versus is excellent. Nothing quite like being a hunter stalking a small group of people through the streets; then leaping like 50 feet in the air and come slamming down right onto one of them.

[Homemaster]

Campaign = awesome

Versus = Over 9000!!!!!

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[Matterialize]

So, just joined a Versus match. It was the 2nd part of No Mercy, and we'd literally just left the safe room. We were at the escalators leading down to the ticket booth area.


Tank.


Luckily, the guy playing the tank sucked and we managed to get him caught in the escalators. We killed him without taking too much damage.

[Tempest]

Yeah, for some reason tanks have been spawning earlier and earlier every match I play. On one my teammates were these complete fucking morons (I was survivor), and as soon as we left the safe house (literally), the tank spawned. We didn't hear it for a few minutes, and this one guy was yelling at us to hurry up, and when we didn't he was like "YOU FUCKING SPAWNED THE TANK, NEXT TIME HURRY UP."

What a fucking moron.

[Matterialize]

Yeah, there's some douchebag players out there. A surprising amount of people don't realize this game is about teamwork. If you decide to rambo it and get pounced by a hunter halfway across the level, you're gonna die.

Even more-so for the infected. A smoker or hunter on their own is harmless to a group of survivors. A lot of people claim the smoker is underpowered, but they're just frustrated when they snag someone and another survivor immediately blows their head off.

[Ekalb]

Sorry if this has been discussed in the thread, I haven't seen it while reading it but;
Is the demo on steam no longer available? It's a shame if it is - would have liked a taste before I bought it.

[OoooF4LiFe]

It was out for a week before the release. How much more of a taste can they offer?

I find myself playing campaign on expert with friends only, using versus as a good timekiller. I pretty much refuse to play with randoms, unless they're all actually using their mic's. But the game is amazing.


For such a simple design, it's incorporation of teamwork is crazy. Never thought something as simple as point and click would require as much tactics as this does.

[Dodger]

My friends got bored with doing the same shite over and over, so they came up with the idea of splitting up and playing against each other; Last Man Standing kind of thing. But you could shoot each other and stuff. The last guy alive that made it to the safe room wins.

It was pretty fun, but you're pretty much fucked if you can't outrun the Tank or Witch.

[Homemaster]

Talking about Rambo players:

Last night I was having an awesome time with Versus (been having really close matches lately, and it makes me put on my game face something serious). On one of the servers we got to the No Mercy finale. We weren't going to win overall, but had stopped the other team from completing the finale, so it was a small victory. The chopper came, we covered each others ass, throwing molotovs to stop them following. Everything was good. Three people were on the chopper. I turn and see Bill standing there, waiting for the horde. Next thing I know he's surrounded and a Tank IS IN THE FUCKING CHOPPER owning my two team mates. I knew we were fucked, so I jumped out and started beating the zombies off. Then suddenly I'm hit for six to a level below the chopper. Great.

Good game.

That guy was such a douchebag after all our effort.

[BKS]

Talking about Rambo players:

Last night I was having an awesome time with Versus (been having really close matches lately, and it makes me put on my game face something serious). On one of the servers we got to the No Mercy finale. We weren't going to win overall, but had stopped the other team from completing the finale, so it was a small victory. The chopper came, we covered each others ass, throwing molotovs to stop them following. Everything was good. Three people were on the chopper. I turn and see Bill standing there, waiting for the horde. Next thing I know he's surrounded and a Tank IS IN THE FUCKING CHOPPER owning my two team mates. I knew we were fucked, so I jumped out and started beating the zombies off. Then suddenly I'm hit for six to a level below the chopper. Great.

Good game.

That guy was such a douchebag after all our effort.

Does one wear gloves while beating off zombies? I hear it can get quite messy.


As for me, I'm thinking a purchase is neccesary. I just dont want to play it and then waste money if it gets boring.

[Homemaster]

Hardy har har :/

Buy it.

[Gorilla Tits]

Yeah, this game is definitely worth the money. Don't know what it's like on XBox, but on the PC this is one of the better games I've played.

[Gudizere]

Easily the most fun I've ever had with 3 friends.
In a game, that is.
Just a great game all around. We should organise some Versus nights, maybe a tournament.

[FuriousPineapple]

Yes, an explosm tournament sounds good, unfortunately it seems we're about 50-50 360 and PC. For you xboxers, you should make a gamebattles team, me and my friends joined the ladder but there needs to be more competition. This game has much potential, I think.

[Matterialize]

Next thing I know he's surrounded and a Tank IS IN THE FUCKING CHOPPER owning my two team mates.

Haha, I've had that happen to my team. I think I'd already died in the finale so I got to watch - despite having a Tank passenger, the humans still triggered the victory cinematic when the last guy jumped on board. Everybody on the chopper was already incapacitated and getting the shit flattened out of them by the Tank, and they were all just screaming "GET ON GET ON GET ON" over their mics at the last guy. Pretty funny shit.


Oh, and when you're a Boomer, exploding on people is so much more fun than puking on them. In the second part of No Mercy, I waited until a survivor was looking out a window at the street below, and I just jumped off the building and blew up in his face on the way down. People get pretty pissed off at that, oddly.

[Cyan]

I love the level where to survivors are waiting for the elevator. You can literally wait for them in the elevator untill it opens, I don't find it very successfull, but it's damn fun.

"All right guys! It's open, let's get in!"
*Everyone runs in the elevator still busy shooting zombies*
*Door closes*
"Ah, we ma-HOLY SHIT A HUNTER!"

[I_Smell]

NW8tE93Vx8Q

[Johnny-june]

NW8tE93Vx8Q

OH MY FUCKING GOD!! AHAHAHAHAHAH!

Shit son. shit.

[Sarge51]

That provided me with about 30 minutes of laughter. I never thought someone could turn those voices around into something like that.

[Ercoledi]

Goddamn it. Now everytime I hear 'reloading' I'm going to giggle.

[Homemaster]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAhaHA

made my day

[lostos]

HOLYSHIT! That was awesome! I can't stop laughing man!

[yellersamick23]

OH MY FUCKING GOD!! AHAHAHAHAHAH!

Shit son. shit.

Mother Fuck!

That was enough to make me piss my self, especially considering how much of a bitch Louis is!

[LandMarkMoon]

Yo guys my bro likes multiplayer games and likes to play C O D 4 a lot, which would you choose, COD: WaW or this? Maybe this would be something fresh for him? Please give me a hint:). I'm picking this up myself as soon as exams are over.

[Pyro]

Well, some might be disappointed in COD WaW, because it's quite similar to CoD 4. Although some consider it a new breeze after CoD 4. L4D might be a too big of a turn from other fps-s. But by all means, if he's open to change, L4D is great.

[LandMarkMoon]

Thanks man.

[Garrity828]

Is this game similar to Dead Rising(I know they are both about zombies) gameplay wise?

[Teflon]

Well if you took a little to read ANY other post in this thread, you'd know that it isn't. The only common factor is there's zombies.

[Lance]

Is this game similar to Dead Rising(I know they are both about zombies) gameplay wise?

If Dead Rising had first person, only 6 different weapons, fast moving zombies, co-operative play, and allowed you to play as zombies stalking human survivors, then yes.

[junglebunny]

Does anyone else get mad if they can't be the black guy or is that just me?

[Cyan]

I get mad if I become the black guy.

[Dodger]

I get mad if I become the black guy.

Same here, he's the bitch of the group. Plus it's a zombie game so he's always the first one to die.

[Homemaster]

I have found that Louis often is the first to die.

It really is like a horror movie.

[OoooF4LiFe]

I find that if we're forced to have a cpu in campaign mode, then we always have him be Bill.

Sure, he'll shoot you in the back of the head, but he'll do right eventually.

[Tempest]

Does anyone else get mad if they can't be the black guy or is that just me?

If I can't play Louis and I'm playing with people I don't know, I leave.

[junglebunny]

So how many guns do they have in this? Is it just the 4 like in the demo?

I'm getting this for Christmas, definitely.

[Lag]

So how many guns do they have in this? Is it just the 4 like in the demo?

I'm getting this for Christmas, definitely.

They got pistols (can dual-wield), shotguns, machine guns (both have better counter-parts to find), hunting rifle and an assortment of explosives.

[junglebunny]

So just the in the demo?

[LandMarkMoon]

Seems so.

[Matterialize]

The full list is:

Single pistol
Dual pistols
Uzi
Shotgun
Assault rifle
Auto shotty
Hunting rifle
Molotov cocktails
Pipe bombs
Oxygen/propane tanks (explosive)
Gas tanks (incendiary)
Mounted machine gun

Kinda lame that they included the mounted gun and world explosives as "extra weapons". The TEN NEW WEAPONS ad at the end of the demo implied differently.

[Cyan]

I don't really care about the small amount of weapons.

We got automatic(M4, Uzi), close-combat(2 Shotguns) and long range(Sniper), and the usual pistols. It's only in CoD 4 and stuff like that it's cool with alot of weapons.

[Ercoledi]

Anyone always go for a particular weapon?

I tried doing the demo just with pistols, and it wasn't too difficult if you played conservatively (hid out back on easy mode).

[Sarge51]

Auto-Shotgun. I suck with the Uzi and the Machine Gun.

[Matterialize]

I usually go with the uzi/M4 during Expert matches. Friendly fire is so goddamn dangerous on that difficulty, a glancing hit with the auto shotty takes away like half of your health.

[Cyan]

I always take the auto shotgun, I might consider the M4 on expert.

[lostos]

I always get SMG/m4. I think the sniper is totally useless.

[Sarge51]

a glancing hit with the auto shotty takes away like half of your health.

That is true. I usually try to stay ahead of everyone else, though, when I have a shotgun. That usually keeps me from accidentally shooting Louis. I also try to tick the witch off, too, because the auto-shotgun can really do a number on the witch if you run backwards and just unload on her. Course, on expert that could be a different story.

Also, I love how the auto-shotgun can shoot insanely fast, and holds two more rounds than the regular shotgun. It also seems to be able to kill zombies a little bit farther, but that could just be me.

[FuriousPineapple]

So fucking fuck fuck guys. Me and three other random people went to play through Dead Air on expert, for fun obviously, but our real goal was the achievements. The other 3 were all friends and I was the odd one out but it was fine and we worked well together. We got off to a real shitty start and kept screwing up like friendly fire and crap and people were on the verge of quitting several times before making it to Chapter 3. Anyway after all the frustration we got to Chapter 3, but one of our guys had to leave for a bit, saying he'd be back (he already had the achievement). We get to Chapter 5 with us 3 and the bot - Bill. Chapter 5 comes and after two failed tries the guy comes back in and gives us a great strategy, and after that the horde was nothing. However, once the Tank came he would wreck us through sheer luck every time, and sometimes we managed to get to the second Tank only to be picked off by a smoker or something and that would screw up the whole thing and we'd die. After about 5-6 tries, the same dude had to leave again for the night. So we knew we couldn't do it with a bot so I brought in one of my friends. Like 5 tries later and we made it to the second Tank all four alive. However, we had nothing to light it on fire with so we had to dance around it and just shoot at it. Well, I turned to run since he was gaining on me and I was taken down by a rock. He then walked over and crushed me, and then killed a second guy. Then the remaining two went to the plane, where my friend accidentally shot the other guy and incapacitated him. We thought all was lost, but after the tank killed the guy, and my friend emptied one more clip into it and brought it down. We cheered him on as he rushed to the back of the plane and fought off the approaching horde. He kept nervously looking back as the plane's platform slowly dropped lower and lower, and he finally jumped on and back up in the plane. We cheered, but then a fucking Hunter leaped on the plane. He fired frantically at it it but it darted around in the space, and landed right in front of him. Just as it did, the cut scene triggered and the plane took off. We were all elated and watched as the credits roll. 5 hours and 16 minutes it took, with us three there for the whole ride. Then, satisfaction turned to confusion as the loading screen appeared, but no achievement pop-up to accompany it. We got back to the lobby, and I checked just to make sure. Survive the Dead Air campaign. Survive one campaign on Expert. With the three of us dead, and our fourth hero only in for the last chapter, none of us had the achievement.

What the fuck.

[Homemaster]

Bugs will be bugs.

[BKS]

Bugs will be bugs.

Its not a bug. They didn't do it correctly.

[Matterialize]

It mighta been photoshopped, but I saw a screencap of a guy's achievements which showed 1/4 campaigns completed on Expert for "What Are You Trying To Prove?" but he hadn't unlocked the achievement for completing only one on expert.

Survived, whatever.

[Cyan]

Bug or not, I feel bad for the pilot. Somewhere he'll land and be like: "I MADE IT! And I even saved someone!". Then he'll open the door to greet the survivors, and a fucking hunter jumps right into his face.

Yeah, you complain about the lost achievement. Heartless bastard. :mad:

[FuriousPineapple]

Its not a bug. They didn't do it correctly.

That's fine and all, but with three Tanks that incap you in one punch, it's tough for all four people to stay alive to get to the plane. Everyone had an equal hand in getting to the end (if you're there for all 5), everyone should get it, not just the lucky one who hops on the plane.

[Matterialize]

You expected him to leave the plane and help you up? Or were you already dead? I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

[FuriousPineapple]

The second tank and killed all of us, and you cannot respawn after you start the fuel tank. I'm 1/4 complaining about how I didn't get the achievement after much hard work and 3/4 complaining how it's next to impossible for all four people to survive three tanks and about 10 hordes, and if one guy goes down while the other three get in the plane, the 3 get the achieve when that one guy could've done most of the work up until the point where a flying rock took him down or something.

[Kirbyfan]

Got the game not to long ago, and I have to say, It's well worth it, the gameplay, while a bit repetitive still never actually gets old.

Anyway, just thought id ask something. A noob question really, but do you have to beat a campaign in order to play it in versus, or are death toll and dead air not available yet.

[FuriousPineapple]

but do you have to beat a campaign in order to play it in versus, or are death toll and dead air not available yet.

They're not available in Versus. I heard (was it in this thread?) that they just didn't have enough time to release them in Versus.

[Matterialize]

I'm pretty sure they'll release them soon, if at all. Versus maps are basically identical to the co-op versions, but there are a few subtle differences (the air conditioner you can jump on to entirely skip the apartments is not present in Versus. The radio building at the end of No Mercy is also slightly different, as the stairs behind it are exposed instead of protected by walls.

[Cyan]

Yea, No Mercy would be extremely easy on versus if the stairs were there.

[LandMarkMoon]

Is it true playing zombie mode is at severe disadvantage than Humans in versus?

[Diomedes]

Depends Moon. In the regular game the zombies can only really win by:
- slowly chipping away at the players health
- the tank
- witch (rarely)
- hunter/smoker/mob all at once

When playing in versus it can be hard for the zombies because their strategies must rely on the NPC zombies to distract the players. I found the best strategy was to attack with a smoker and hunter during the tank attack. That way, two people are demobilized while the other two are contending with a tank that has only 2 targets. Both sides are tricky.

[Dodger]

Is it true playing zombie mode is at severe disadvantage than Humans in versus?

It really depends on the skill of the players.
4 zombies, lets say 2 hunters, a smoker, and a boomer, with a good coordinated attack can seperate the players and kill them without any NPC help at all. But you'd need to have extremely good players to do something like that.

[Sarge51]

Depends Moon. In the regular game the zombies can only really win by:
- slowly chipping away at the players health
- the tank
- witch (rarely)
- hunter/smoker/mob all at once

When playing in versus it can be hard for the zombies because their strategies must rely on the NPC zombies to distract the players. I found the best strategy was to attack with a smoker and hunter during the tank attack. That way, two people are demobilized while the other two are contending with a tank that has only 2 targets. Both sides are tricky.

Throw a boomer in there to get mobbed by zombies and that's a pretty tough combination.

You'd think it'd be easier in versus, because in a normal game you normally only get hit by one boss zombie at a time, but in versus you can coordinate a plan like you just said and attack all at once for a hard hitting blow.

[Cyan]

I find the sites are equally balanced, but I haven't played much versus. It's pretty much impossible to only be 2 human players in verus(1 infected 1 survivor) because the survivor will have bots.

It's fun playing both, so I don't really care about balance.

[Matterialize]

The bots are retarded in Expert versus though. Every second counts, and the best strategy for survivors is to pretty much just sprint to the end and see how far they get. Bots aren't intelligent enough to understand that, so they often dawdle at the back of the group to "cover the rear" or whatever.

Expert versus is so fun. I wish we could set difficulty filters when finding a quick match.

[Diomedes]

Matterialize, you can give them commands to make them go ahead of you.

[Cyan]

Not on xbox.

Sometimes I think the bots have been given zombie AI :indiff: