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[Habitu]

Here is a new band, starting to get recognized by production companies. Check us out and please critique, but don't be gay. Keep in mind that we're only 15, and we have a lot of time for improvement. Give a listen to the whole song before you start judging. Tell us what you like, and what you don't like, we're open for suggestions. (we're not rapping ever((the yelling in the song "Your Name" was a big mistake, and was discouraged from the start from me)))

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[Idioteque]

Rough and Uncut is a pretty good song name for you guys, because that exactly what comes to mind.

There may be possibility for some talent here, but at the moment you guys sound very rough and out-of-sync. Your percussion does not quite match up with the rest of the band, or you guitars have a tendency to race ahead of the beat. My advice is to stick to what you know best; your drummer doesn't seem to be able to consistently be able to do those fast fills, so maybe it would be best to cut those out for now.

On a positive note, I do like your guitars tone quality, whoever it is seems pretty good.

For 15 year olds, you guys are doing nicely.

[Habitu]

Thanks man, and I did tell my drummer to tone it down a bit with the fills. And keep in mind that these are rough recordings, they're just done in our basement with a little 8 track. Trust me on this, we're a lot better live, we just seem to get our charisma off of each other. While in these recordings we are doing it separate. Thanks for the feedback man.

[Fluzz]

Your music is a breath of fresh air. I cant stand any new bands, keep up the good work.

[Habitu]

Thanks Fluzz, that means a lot.

[meTalmessiah]

I like where this is going.
The advice I can give is to follow what Idioteque said, and if you're the singer, try to put a little more emotion into the vocals. It sounds a bit more like you're chanting than singing, although there is potential there. Maybe do some vocal exercises to try and expand your range a bit?

[Ikin]

You guys needs to work on the vocals (if you can call them that). And the drummer needs to stay in time. Other than that, you guys are pretty good. :)

[Fluzz]

You guys needs to work on the vocals (if you can call them that).

I thought the rules said not to be gay?

[Habitu]

I like where this is going.
The advice I can give is to follow what Idioteque said, and if you're the singer, try to put a little more emotion into the vocals. It sounds a bit more like you're chanting than singing, although there is potential there. Maybe do some vocal exercises to try and expand your range a bit?

Which song are you talking about?

[tunacake]

Everything about the music would lead me to believe that you are much older than you are, but the vocals give you away.

[Habitu]

Everything about the music would lead me to believe that you are much older than you are, but the vocals give you away.

Please post what songs you're talking about.

[tunacake]

Just in general. 'Out There' is a good example.

[Habitu]

Just in general. 'Out There' is a good example.

Ya man, i kinda get what you're saying. "Out There" was our very first song, the vocals in our newer songs get better.but what exactly do you mean "gives us away"? Do you mean we sound young? Or what?

[tunacake]

I'm just saying that the music is very good, but the vocals don't quite measure up, and take away from the music a bit.

[meTalmessiah]

Which song are you talking about?

Pretty much all of them. It most stuck out to me with Rough and Uncut because that's the one I enjoyed the most, but with some vocal work it could all be seriously improved.

[hserf_nippop]

Personnally, i think the tuna loving dude and the telmessiah (whatever that is) are just a little jelous that they in fact have no talent and sit on their bums all day writing on internet forums, so please tell me who needs a little bit of work? p.s. I am probably getting kicked out for this so dont expect another post for a little while, and if u dont get my name, please read it backwards and u will know who i am.

[Fluzz]

Personnally, i think the tuna loving dude and the telmessiah (whatever that is) are just a little jelous that they in fact have no talent and sit on their bums all day writing on internet forums, so please tell me who needs a little bit of work? p.s. I am probably getting kicked out for this so dont expect another post for a little while, and if u dont get my name, please read it backwards and u will know who i am.

I can already tell this is Marc or Mitchell. Anyway man chill its just a little feed back, most of these guys are American anyway so, they can't really help it.

[tunacake]

Personnally, i think the tuna loving dude and the telmessiah (whatever that is) are just a little jelous that they in fact have no talent and sit on their bums all day writing on internet forums, so please tell me who needs a little bit of work? p.s. I am probably getting kicked out for this so dont expect another post for a little while, and if u dont get my name, please read it backwards and u will know who i am.

He posted this here so he could get some constructive criticism. I've already said that I quite liked almost everything about the music.

Oh and Fluzz, I'm not American, and that was a cheap, not to mention unfunny, shot.

[hserf_nippop]

alright u kno wat these guys are right im sorry im just angry about stuff so dont take it the wrong way (unless everthing i wrote is true, then be ashamed!) but if not once agian, im sorry and dont stop giving "contructive critisism" just keep it constructive, not destructive.

[Fluzz]

He posted this here so he could get some constructive criticism. I've already said that I quite liked almost everything about the music.

Oh and Fluzz, I'm not American, and that was a cheap, not to mention unfunny, shot.

If you're not American I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be unfunny and Obviously If you're not American it doesn't apply to you now does it?

[Tastychainsaws]

I listened to rough and uncut and I think your guitarist is pretty damn good. The vocals sounded nice at the start but but once the chorus started it started to sound more like chanting than singing, also I think the vocals were drowned a bit by the guitar.

But coming from me-a guy who hates 90% of the crap he listens too you guys aren't to bad.


EDIT: How did that guy hserf_nippop not get a TO from that post? Thats gotta be the worst post I've ever seen on Explosm.

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[Fluzz]

I listened to rough and uncut and I think your guitarist is pretty damn good. The vocals sounded nice at the start but but once the chorus started it started to sound more like chanting than singing, also I think the vocals were drowned a bit by the guitar.

But coming from me-a guy who hates 90% of the crap he listens too you guys aren't to bad.


EDIT: How did that guy hserf_nippop not get a TO from that post? Thats gotta be the worst post I've ever seen on Explosm.

Yeah that's Mitch, the drummer. Very noobish at posting. Takes things very offensively.

[Tastychainsaws]

Yeah that's Mitch, the drummer. Very noobish at posting. Takes things very offensively.

I noticed. I had to double back to realize he was even part of your band at first, shows how much I pay attention.

Anyways at 15 I'm surprised you found a drummer, me and a couple of friends are working on starting a band and a drummer is a far off where we live.

[hserf_nippop]

Well tastychainsaws, i too have no idea how im not banned but thats okay im not complaining, and you'll find a drummer you can be happy with. And fluzz, it was my first post and i did apoligize afterwards, besides everyone knows u dont go all out on a recording (basically not making the song a long solo). If anyone still has a problem with what i said, either deal with it or talk to me about it and i'll be happy to clarify.

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[Riddlebox]

You guys have potential, but it's a little rough right now. I'm sure you'll get better in time, but for your age you're not bad at all. I would suggest finding a bass player personally, since you're drummer is a little rough right now, if you can get a good rhythm going you guys will sound a lot better.

You're drummer is all over the damn place. Christ, as a drummer I know he wants to do a lot, but playing complicated stuff doesn't mean anything if it doesn't sound good. Have him look up Derek Roddy's videos and practice. He'll improve in no time.

Maybe it's just your recording equipment though, but the drums are really overlapping everything so that I can't really make out the rest. If he wants to play loud have him do something NOFX style, so that it's easier to follow. Christ.

EDIT: Also, I don't want to rip on the vocals too much, since I know how hard it is to find a good singer, but if you find someone better, have them sing instead. Or, work on your range, no offense, but you're flat.

[Fluzz]

You guys have potential, but it's a little rough right now. I'm sure you'll get better in time, but for your age you're not bad at all. I would suggest finding a bass player personally, since you're drummer is a little rough right now, if you can get a good rhythm going you guys will sound a lot better.

You're drummer is all over the damn place. Christ, as a drummer I know he wants to do a lot, but playing complicated stuff doesn't mean anything if it doesn't sound good. Have him look up Derek Roddy's videos and practice. He'll improve in no time.

Maybe it's just your recording equipment though, but the drums are really overlapping everything so that I can't really make out the rest. If he wants to play loud have him do something NOFX style, so that it's easier to follow. Christ.

EDIT: Also, I don't want to rip on the vocals too much, since I know how hard it is to find a good singer, but if you find someone better, have them sing instead. Or, work on your range, no offense, but you're flat.

They're young, they've got plenty of room and time to improve. Maybe recording in an actual studio may be a good step, other than that as soon as I can get my license and drive to their city I'll probably jam with them and law down some bass riffs but I'm still a little too far to be apart of the band. I' making their shirts though.

[Riddlebox]

They're young, they've got plenty of room and time to improve. Maybe recording in an actual studio may be a good step, other than that as soon as I can get my license and drive to their city I'll probably jam with them and law down some bass riffs but I'm still a little too far to be apart of the band. I' making their shirts though.

I meant everything I said in a constructive way, I wasn't trying to bash them.

Also, please get them a bass player, or play for them yourself, they're all over the place, as if they're overflowing with ideas but have no foundation. which is a generous way of looking at it.

[Fluzz]

I meant everything I said in a constructive way, I wasn't trying to bash them.

Also, please get them a bass player, or play for them yourself, they're all over the place, as if they're overflowing with ideas but have no foundation. which is a generous way of looking at it.

It's not like they haven't tried to get one, they previously had one but he suddenly decided he should play guitar and one of them should play bass. He didn't make it past 3 band practices without getting kicked out. I'd gladly play if I lived in their area, maybe in a couple of years when I can drive.

[hserf_nippop]

Maybe one day we will get a bassist, who knows. But trust me, we sound alot better a fuller live. The recording equipment really isn't that good, and i hate to blame only our equipment, but it would make a huge difference if we used a better system. hopefully this riddlebox dude can hear us live one day or at least a proper recording, because it will probably change his mind.

[Greger]

Maybe one day we will get a bassist, who knows. But trust me, we sound alot better a fuller live. The recording equipment really isn't that good, and i hate to blame only our equipment, but it would make a huge difference if we used a better system. hopefully this riddlebox dude can hear us live one day or at least a proper recording, because it will probably change his mind.

Even if you so had the greatest studio in the world, you would sound bad and not on time.
What he's trying to say is to get back to basics, it's always better to play the simple stuff 110% perfect rather than something superadvanced and hard but only mediocre at it's best.

Keep it simple at start, then advance from there rather than starting really advanced and losing some of your creativity until you've played together enough.

[Fluzz]

Even if you so had the greatest studio in the world, you would sound bad and not on time.
What he's trying to say is to get back to basics, it's always better to play the simple stuff 110% perfect rather than something superadvanced and hard but only mediocre at it's best.

Keep it simple at start, then advance from there rather than starting really advanced and losing some of your creativity until you've played together enough.

Give them a break. First off you're a douche, and I'm not being funny, or flaming, your posts are just fucking gay. Second off they're 15 and the last thing they're worried about right now is timing, they just play what they think sounds right. Don't tell them what they should do, tell them what would help, "Keep it simple at start, then advance from there" isn't going to cut it as a specific idea for help. The thread rules said don't be gay, you've just broken the rules.

[Riddlebox]

Give them a break. First off you're a douche, and I'm not being funny, or flaming, your posts are just fucking gay. Second off they're 15 and the last thing they're worried about right now is timing, they just play what they think sounds right. Don't tell them what they should do, tell them what would help, "Keep it simple at start, then advance from there" isn't going to cut it as a specific idea for help. The thread rules said don't be gay, you've just broken the rules.

Nobody is attacking them, we're offering constructive criticism. Fact is, they have potential, but aren't very great. From personal experience I can tell you that it's important to have a very strong foundation to build on your musical talent. They're overshooting, and it shows.

[Fluzz]

Nobody is attacking them, we're offering constructive criticism. Fact is, they have potential, but aren't very great. From personal experience I can tell you that it's important to have a very strong foundation to build on your musical talent. They're overshooting, and it shows.

I know, I'm only bitching at the ones who don't give some decent input.

[Greger]

Give them a break. First off you're a douche, and I'm not being funny, or flaming, your posts are just fucking gay. Second off they're 15 and the last thing they're worried about right now is timing, they just play what they think sounds right. Don't tell them what they should do, tell them what would help, "Keep it simple at start, then advance from there" isn't going to cut it as a specific idea for help. The thread rules said don't be gay, you've just broken the rules.

Learn to take some fucking constructive critizism, they put their band out here, and I try to help them by tellign them to take it slow at start, Timing is ALWAYS an issue because if you dont play coordinated it will sound bad, which is something we do not want.

Read once again what I wrote, you'll see I try to help you guys alot but if you want to be a dickhead about it, fine.
And second, me being a douche? Im giving them Constructive Critizism, they wanted it and I gave it to them, stop being such a dickhead and narrowsighted.

[Habitu]

Learn to take some fucking constructive critizism, they put their band out here, and I try to help them by tellign them to take it slow at start, Timing is ALWAYS an issue because if you dont play coordinated it will sound bad, which is something we do not want.

Read once again what I wrote, you'll see I try to help you guys alot but if you want to be a dickhead about it, fine.
And second, me being a douche? Im giving them Constructive Critizism, they wanted it and I gave it to them, stop being such a dickhead and narrowsighted.

Ok you guys need to chill. Fluzz, thanks, but it is constructive criticism. I assure you all that we're a lot better live, it's pretty hard recording YOURSELF. besides, you don't have the energy you would have live, it's just not the same. We're getting proffesionaly recorded really soon, that will show what we can do. These things are just done in a basement, by ourselves, in just a few takes. If we wanted perfection, we could do that, take a few days, but we were just tired of not having anything to show people. If anyone has a chance to see us then please come out, we're 10x better live. It's just we didn't take time for perfection, even vocals sound better live, it's just there's less energy when you're not into it.

[TheFerret]

One thing you should know is that if you are going to have only one riff per song (not including the main chorus) than you should put a solo in the middle of the song to break from the monotony. I am not saying that having one riff per song is a bad thing, just it wears thin after a while.

The riffs are strong which i like seeing. Some of the best drumbeats are extremely basic, so keep that in mind. Fills are fun (i assume, i don't play drums) but don't get carried away.

One more thing. Stop hiding behind this "were better live" garbage. Even if it is true, it just gets weaker and weaker the more you use it. If the vocals cannot be done in a studio, i doubt they would be that dramatically different live.

[Fluzz]

One thing you should know is that if you are going to have only one riff per song (not including the main chorus) than you should put a solo in the middle of the song to break from the monotony. I am not saying that having one riff per song is a bad thing, just it wears thin after a while.

The riffs are strong which i like seeing. Some of the best drumbeats are extremely basic, so keep that in mind. Fills are fun (i assume, i don't play drums) but don't get carried away.

One more thing. Stop hiding behind this "were better live" garbage. Even if it is true, it just gets weaker and weaker the more you use it. If the vocals cannot be done in a studio, i doubt they would be that dramatically different live.

Did you even listen to a full song? there's a solo is all of them, maybe not in the middle but the type of music they play doesn't call for that.

[TheFerret]

I'm just saying that it might be a little better to put it in the middle, or at least not put in at the end in every song. It's actually not even a critical factor at this point, because really the songs are pretty short, but if longer songs come in, they should at least have a small solo in the middle, or do something to break the monotony.

[BassBastard]

The best home recording trick in the world is to have a click track. Make sure the drummer can hear it if no one else. What are you using to record? What equipment are you playing through? I have been playing live on stage since I was 12, and in metal bands since I was 16. Age is not the barrier you need to worry about.

Buy a metronome. Play your parts separately using the metronome. Play together using the metronome. Passion is easy. Technique and precision is not. I had a teacher who told me practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. That being said, I think it is a bit extreme. But it will help you.

I agree with all the posts about the vocal lessons. Also, relax when you sing. Keep your abs firm and your throat relaxed. Do some breathing exercises. Warm up prior to trying to sing a track. Warm ups apply to everyone. I have to, my band is occasionally required to play back to back sets for hours. At our energy level that requires warm up and control.

I agree as well about the rhythm section. I have already said all I can about that. Metronome, simplify. Those are the two most important words.

The music is pretty good. It sounds like you are having alot of fun. That is the most important part. It is not my bag really, but that is taste, not a reflection of your ability to play. "Intense" has a nice simple drive. Base your ideas on that. Then work up. Before you know it you will be switching between 13/8 - 9/8 - 4/4 - 6/8 time signatures in one song while wondering what the guitarist was smoking when he came up with it.

[Habitu]

The best home recording trick in the world is to have a click track. Make sure the drummer can hear it if no one else. What are you using to record? What equipment are you playing through? I have been playing live on stage since I was 12, and in metal bands since I was 16. Age is not the barrier you need to worry about.

Buy a metronome. Play your parts separately using the metronome. Play together using the metronome. Passion is easy. Technique and precision is not. I had a teacher who told me practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. That being said, I think it is a bit extreme. But it will help you.

I agree with all the posts about the vocal lessons. Also, relax when you sing. Keep your abs firm and your throat relaxed. Do some breathing exercises. Warm up prior to trying to sing a track. Warm ups apply to everyone. I have to, my band is occasionally required to play back to back sets for hours. At our energy level that requires warm up and control.

I agree as well about the rhythm section. I have already said all I can about that. Metronome, simplify. Those are the two most important words.

The music is pretty good. It sounds like you are having alot of fun. That is the most important part. It is not my bag really, but that is taste, not a reflection of your ability to play. "Intense" has a nice simple drive. Base your ideas on that. Then work up. Before you know it you will be switching between 13/8 - 9/8 - 4/4 - 6/8 time signatures in one song while wondering what the guitarist was smoking when he came up with it.



Hey man thanks for the tips. We're recording on an 8-track recorder. Just something we borrowed from my school. We're recording pro in the next month though. This post really helps, so thanks again.

[BassBastard]

We use a 24 track HDD recorder in the rehearsal studio, and record our real stuff at Mind's Eye Digital studios here in Phoenix. I will gladly plug Larry. He is the owner and engineer. He also did some production work.

Kick ass on the pro recording! I look forward to hearing it.

[Fluzz]

The best home recording trick in the world is to have a click track. Make sure the drummer can hear it if no one else. What are you using to record? What equipment are you playing through? I have been playing live on stage since I was 12, and in metal bands since I was 16. Age is not the barrier you need to worry about.

Buy a metronome. Play your parts separately using the metronome. Play together using the metronome. Passion is easy. Technique and precision is not. I had a teacher who told me practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. That being said, I think it is a bit extreme. But it will help you.

I agree with all the posts about the vocal lessons. Also, relax when you sing. Keep your abs firm and your throat relaxed. Do some breathing exercises. Warm up prior to trying to sing a track. Warm ups apply to everyone. I have to, my band is occasionally required to play back to back sets for hours. At our energy level that requires warm up and control.

I agree as well about the rhythm section. I have already said all I can about that. Metronome, simplify. Those are the two most important words.

The music is pretty good. It sounds like you are having alot of fun. That is the most important part. It is not my bag really, but that is taste, not a reflection of your ability to play. "Intense" has a nice simple drive. Base your ideas on that. Then work up. Before you know it you will be switching between 13/8 - 9/8 - 4/4 - 6/8 time signatures in one song while wondering what the guitarist was smoking when he came up with it.

Now this is some fucking constructive criticism. People on this damn forum can learn from this guy. Much appreciated.

[Riddlebox]

Now this is some fucking constructive criticism. People on this damn forum can learn from this guy. Much appreciated.

He basically just made a really long post agreeing with everyone else, and mentioned a metronome.

[Habi2]

OK guys, I don't know why but the mods permabanned my account saying that me and Fluzz are the same person. I used his computer sometimes to post and they thought that I had the same IP adress.This is my new account, so all questions I will answer.

[Android]

Open for business.

[Habitu]

Ok, well this account is back in buisness. Did anyone happen to catch the shows on the weekend?

[Shmuh]

I would just like to tell you that Supernova Ontario is terrible, and you should stay as far away from them as possible. They're money-grubbing assholes who don't care too much for new bands as long as they make money. They treated my old band like absolute shit the first show we ever had. Even after that it was terrible.

But uh, if you guys ever end up going to London Ontario for a show or something, I'll show up.

[Riddlebox]

If you're ever in Seattle I'll see you guys, just to see if you are as good as you claim to be.

[Habitu]

I would just like to tell you that Supernova Ontario is terrible, and you should stay as far away from them as possible. They're money-grubbing assholes who don't care too much for new bands as long as they make money. They treated my old band like absolute shit the first show we ever had. Even after that it was terrible.

But uh, if you guys ever end up going to London Ontario for a show or something, I'll show up.

I'll admit Supernova is money grabbing. They seemed pretty good to us though. What do you mean the treated you like shit? If this is a bad company then I should probably turn down the show they offered us.
I'll post if there's a show in or around London.

[Fluzz]

If you're ever in Seattle I'll see you guys, just to see if you are as good as you claim to be.

I would seriously appreciate it if you stopped posting. Thanks hun.

[Greger]

I would seriously appreciate it if you stopped posting. Thanks hun.

I would seriously appreciate if you were able to take critic and didnt see everything as an attack on you.

[Riddlebox]

I would seriously appreciate it if you stopped posting. Thanks hun.

At least I'm willing to go see them play, chum.

[Habitu]

It's ok guys, Fluzz is just a really great friend of the band. He's just being protective. I want to thank you guys for posting anything helpful. As long as it is helpful. It's greatly appreciated.

[Fluzz]

Show scheduled for October 25th El Macombo in Toronto. Anyone in the area interested?

[Habitu]

We've just made some buttons, they're pretty kickass. Look on our myspace for a picture.

[Habitu]

We've got 2 new tracks up on myspace. "One Thing" and "Intense". Check them out, they're better quality then the other ones.

[Habitu]

New song on myspace, "My Silver Line"

[Fluzz]

December 19th No Prescription's (www.myspace.com/noprescription24) single 'One Thing' will be played on Punk Cast Radio (http://www.punkradiocast.com/), tune in!

[Habitu]

Show on the 15th with Corporation, Beyond Decay and more in Brampton
@ The Goodtimes Cafe (158 Kennedy Road South)
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