The Host - Stephenie Meyer [Archive]

tashiun

09-05-2008, 12:11 PM

Now, I've heard plenty of bashing for Stephenie Meyer's book, Twilight, but whose read The Host?

Personally, I thought it was one of the best books I've ever read. The characters were interesting, and the seemingly split-personality of the main character set up interesting situations for both Mel and Wanda. The love square result, with Ian, Jared, and the combined duo, was fabulous and all the way up until the very end I was positive there was no happy ending in sight.

Anyways, comments? I'm wondering who else's read it and who liked/disliked it.

Haggis McSpud

09-06-2008, 4:46 PM

I never even knew Meyer had written anything else, what was it about?

GCBC

09-07-2008, 10:36 PM

I tried several times to read this, but I just couldn't get into it. I think the concept is pretty interesting, but it just failed for some reason. Maybe I will try again later.

Dodger

09-07-2008, 10:41 PM

Maybe I will try again later.

I also use a magic 8-ball to decide what to read.

GCBC

09-07-2008, 11:02 PM

Stop being a prick.

Maybe I will try at a future date and time to see if I can get into the book that clearly doesn't interest me at the moment. Better?Assfuck :mad:

BurgerKueen

09-08-2008, 1:30 PM

I think the Twilight saga filled up my reading quota for Meyer. And I didn't even finish yet.

scribbler

11-05-2008, 12:29 AM

Ziggy St. Valentine

11-05-2008, 12:40 AM

I loved the Host!
I know some people are saying they dont like Twilight and everything but I'd have to disagree. Stephenie Meyer is one of my favourite authors.
I think the concept of the Host is really grasping. I found it difficult to start, only because it was confusing but after the first few chapters I couldn't put it down.
A really good story with an equally satisfying ending.

READ IT! =]

Biography:
Hey, my name is Brooke. I'm 15 years old from Australia.. =]
Location:
A place called home.
Interests:
I like noodles (lol) reading, computing, the beach, shopping, dance, sleeping, etc.
Occupation:
The bliss of nothingness. Student.

:indiff:

Pieman

11-05-2008, 12:46 AM

Care to give us a reason for why it's 'grasping'? Or at least a general idea of what it's about from your point of view.

BurgerKueen

11-05-2008, 1:32 AM

Being student is a bliss of nothingness? What kind of school do you go to? :wail:

Anyways, when you mean satisfying ending is it like super cheesy and cute and everyone lives happily ever after? The concept of The Host would be grasping to me if it was written by a good science fiction author like, um, I don't know, Asimov maybe. Not some money grabbing diva like Meyer.

Water-Sheerie

11-05-2008, 12:13 PM

The Host struck me as a bad rip-off of Animorphs. I tried to read it, finding myself confused as to how this book was supposed to be geared toward adults. Meyer's writing had not changed, if anything it was worse. Sloppy writing that just screamed for an editor, a bloated storyline that couldn't even stay on track as Meyer deviated every few lines to describe something with paragraphs upon paragraphs of purple prose. The 'love story' was the same, a bunch of whiny emotionally immature brats simply 'fall in love', and spew purple prose saturated bullshit at each other.

My God, is love really that easy? All I have to do is quote the most cliche lines of poetry, and I'm set for a blissful life of perfect romance?

It kills me that Meyer claims this idea to be original, and to be of her own making. She needs to read and watch more sci-fi. Also she needs to stop trying to write for adults since she fails at it, and the only people reading her shitty books are her fanbase of teenyboppers/young adults.

Ropski

11-05-2008, 12:29 PM

I am actually almost finished with The Host. I read the Twilight series first and loved them. I was very skeptical about The Host (with it being Sci-Fiish) but I gotta say it LOVE it! I can't wait to see how it ends!

Water-Sheerie

11-05-2008, 12:36 PM

I can't wait to see how it ends!

There's actually guess-work involved? Seriously, because I know without even finishing the book that everyone will have a happy ending, and everyone will be happy and get what they want without any significant damage or scars.

It will be a perfect ending, as Meyer refuses to write plausible ones.

Bayview05

11-05-2008, 1:03 PM

I think it's funny how the complete newbs are the only ones that like it.

As for me, It was a very addicting book, I got about a quarter of the way through it before I realized I didn't understand a damn thing that was going on. I might actually read it carefully next time.

Pelican Man

11-05-2008, 6:52 PM

There's actually guess-work involved? Seriously, because I know without even finishing the book that everyone will have a happy ending, and everyone will be happy and get what they want without any significant damage or scars.

It will be a perfect ending, as Meyer refuses to write plausible ones.

Goddammit, stop trolling everything to do with Stephanie Meyer. You don't like her, we get it. Now get over it.

Pieman

11-06-2008, 1:31 AM

How dare she discuss books in this forum! Authors and debates about her skill do not belong here!

Pelican Man

11-06-2008, 1:35 AM

How dare she discuss books in this forum! Authors and debates about her skill do not belong here!

She's trolling you stupid prick. There's no problem with her posting her opinion, but someone posted after her saying good things about the book and she felt the need to leave a snide comment. There was no 'debate' aspect about it. Don't be a cunt.

Pieman

11-06-2008, 1:45 AM

She judged the book and guessed the ending by looking at what she had already read, and by taking notice of the authors shortcomings. It opened up room for a debate. You know, someone say something good about it, another person counters it and puts forth reasons etc.
That's the debate aspect.

Pelican Man

11-06-2008, 1:50 AM

You're really clutching at straws here, ain'tcha fella?

Water-Sheerie

11-06-2008, 10:50 AM

Goddammit, stop trolling everything to do with Stephanie Meyer. You don't like her, we get it. Now get over it.

Actually I have posted in other threads within the literature forum, ones not pertaining to Meyer. I mostly hang out in the book section, as I like books.

And it is debatable as to whether Meyer's endings are predicatable, and for that matter good. If Ropski wants to post some counter arguements on how the ending for The Host was not predicatable, and was good, I am quite willing to read them. And it has to be good points, not "It's good because it's good."

Ropski

11-06-2008, 11:38 AM

There's actually guess-work involved? Seriously, because I know without even finishing the book that everyone will have a happy ending, and everyone will be happy and get what they want without any significant damage or scars.

It will be a perfect ending, as Meyer refuses to write plausible ones.

Yes obviously it will have a happy ending, but the interesting aspect about her books is how they get to that point, how the characters overcome obstacles.

IronWire

11-06-2008, 12:46 PM

Don't characters overcome obstacles in EVERY FUCKING BOOK EVER?

MistyTehMoose

11-06-2008, 2:38 PM

She's saying she is interested to see how they overcome their certain obstacles, don't be a prick.

PineappleHead

11-06-2008, 2:46 PM

Goddammit, stop trolling everything to do with Stephanie Meyer. You don't like her, we get it. Now get over it.

Goddammit, stop trolling every thread looking for a person to bitch at. You're mad at the world, we get it. Now get the fuck over it and contribute to the actual thread.

Anyway, I read a few pages of both of these books and I just couldn't take anymore. It's fine that people think it's good or whatever, it's just really not my thing, and I think it's awful.

Ropski

11-07-2008, 9:38 AM

Don't characters overcome obstacles in EVERY FUCKING BOOK EVER?

Yes, they usually do. But isn't the reason most people read to let yourself delve into another world, to use your imagination? I get if people don't like the books, that's cool. But it doesn't mean that other people don't enjoy them, There isn't anything wrong with voicing your opinion on it, but there's no need to get so annoyed and angry about it. Did you read The Host? I'm only asking because I'd like to know what you didn't like about it.

Pelican Man

11-07-2008, 5:22 PM

Actually I have posted in other threads within the literature forum, ones not pertaining to Meyer. I mostly hang out in the book section, as I like books.

I never said you posted exclusively in threads about Stephanie Meyer, just fyi.

Goddammit, stop trolling every thread looking for a person to bitch at. You're mad at the world, we get it. Now get the fuck over it and contribute to the actual thread.

Mad at the world? Hah, yeah right. And you're totally right, I should contribute. Because 'I read a couple of pages and it's shit lol' is a REALLY great contribution to the thread.

PineappleHead

11-08-2008, 11:52 PM

I never said you posted exclusively in threads about Stephanie Meyer, just fyi.

Mad at the world? Hah, yeah right. And you're totally right, I should contribute. Because 'I read a couple of pages and it's shit lol' is a REALLY great contribution to the thread.

So you're seriously going to keep arguing without contributing? Sad. I actually laughed out loud when I saw this comment. You haven't said anything about the subject, so instead of doing that, you nag at someone who made a contribution, you get called on it, and you start arguing with that person too. Admin anyone? Oh right, you're "Explosmateer." You get special treatment.

MistyTehMoose

11-09-2008, 2:14 AM

Explosmateers don't get special attention, you tard. Like it matters anyway, if you're a shit poster then you're a shit poster now matter how frequently you do it.

I haven't read the Host yet, but I don't think the story has grabbed me. I'll finish Twilight first ;)

Pelican Man

11-10-2008, 3:55 AM

So you're seriously going to keep arguing without contributing? Sad. I actually laughed out loud when I saw this comment.

And you're doing... what, exactly?

You haven't said anything about the subject, so instead of doing that, you nag at someone who made a contribution, you get called on it, and you start arguing with that person too.

I didn't nag at them for making a contribution, which is what you're trying to make it sound like. Don't twist my words.
And you called me out? Where? The part when you said I was mad at the world? Good stuff, champ. You got me.

Admin anyone? Oh right, you're "Explosmateer." You get special treatment.

...
Oooooook. You think Explosmateers get special treatment? Clearly not. If I'm doing something so horribly wrong, then so are you.
Oh, but you're Somewhat New! You must be getting special treatment!
Moron.

BurgerKueen

11-10-2008, 11:41 AM

If you're not going to talk about the fucking book, take it to your PMs. Just because no mod ever visits this forum you don't have the turn the thread to shit.

klw

12-09-2008, 9:17 PM

BurgerKueen

12-10-2008, 2:07 AM

So what other books have you read besides the Host? Twilight?

Allen

12-10-2008, 4:59 AM

Stephenie Meyer is officially the best author of my life ! (:

klw

12-10-2008, 1:19 PM

So what other books have you read besides the Host? Twilight?

yes all of twilight
eragon trilogy
blue bloods series..
harry potter series...
Perfect
Another horrible story where the mother dies
interview with a vampire

list goes on, those are just in the past 5/6 months?

BurgerKueen

12-10-2008, 3:37 PM

Did you read anything that 1) wasn't written in the last 5 years 2) wasn't a bestseller 3) wasn't about vampires or other mythical creatures? Just wondering.

Allen

12-10-2008, 5:19 PM

What she's asking is, have you ever actually read a real book? A real novel? A good story that has stood the test of time by an author that has been universally recognized a great?

Personally, I can piss a better story into the snow than Stephenie Meyer has ever even though of writing. And it doesn't even snow in Alabama!

klw

12-10-2008, 6:21 PM

Did you read anything that 1) wasn't written in the last 5 years 2) wasn't a bestseller 3) wasn't about vampires or other mythical creatures? Just wondering.

Hmm to be honest probably not, im only 14... So I probably havent heard of a book that was worth reading before 2004? Cause I wasnt so much into reading at the time, for obvious reasons. But I would read them if I got some reccomendations? Probably the best book I've read that doesn't involve anything mythical, would have to be "The Outsiders" and I dont know if that counts cause I think its a bestseller? But I bet my reading expansion will you know expand.

And for you allen?
Don't be rude, its just a book, other people like it? It's no big deal.

drumbum

12-10-2008, 6:57 PM

Haven't read the Host, nor do I really want to. From what I understand, and from what someone has said on here, it's an Animorphs knock off. That series pissed me off, so if it's anything like it, I don't think I'll bother.

Hmm to be honest probably not, im only 14... So I probably havent heard of a book that was worth reading before 2004?

This makes me sad.

cptlol

12-10-2008, 7:10 PM

TheAwesome

12-11-2008, 3:38 AM

Sorry, but I need some strong advice. Should I take the time to read it? Apparently it only interests females and only some males.

I need this information because I'm a MANLY MAN MAN MAN!

MistyTehMoose

12-11-2008, 5:29 AM

The host is apparently less girly then Twilight, although I haven't read it.

Also Cptlol, technically Vampire would be classed as fantasy and the Host under Sci-Fi, which are two different genres or fiction (which is generally unrealistic).

Pieman

12-11-2008, 5:46 AM

Hmm to be honest probably not, im only 14...

Not really that much of an excuse. At 13 I'd powered though every Wheel of Time book out, and had read literally thousands of fanfiction. Most of which were better than Twilight.

Ontopic: I'm going to obtain a copy of the book soon, in a completely legal fashion, and I'm praying to god that it's not thinly veiled mormon propaganda.

Allen

12-11-2008, 10:53 AM

And for you allen?
Don't be rude, its just a book, other people like it? It's no big deal.

No, it's not just a fucking book. It's the epitome of absolute bullshit. The book industry was already bad enough in that too many publishing companies have been publishing only shit that they think can maybe get a movie deal eventually, and other stupid trash.

Then this stupid bitch comes a long and writes a bunch of trash and blows up as some huge sensation amongst giddy teenage girls and stupid people. It wouldn't be so bad if she actually knew how to write. This bitch ignores every basic principle of good story telling and instead opts to romanticize every-fucking-thing from someone's eyes right down to their door knob. It's fucking stupid. If she was actually a good writer and her words were concise and meaningful, these books wouldn't be 500 pages long a piece.

And this bitch is making bank while the few authors out there that are actually good with words, can tell a good and original story, and have considerable skill at telling a story just get ignored because their books aren't as marketable and they don't have an easily impressed, cum-swallowing demographic (giddy teenage girls).

klw

12-11-2008, 12:44 PM

Sorry, but I need some strong advice. Should I take the time to read it? Apparently it only interests females and only some males.

I need this information because I'm a MANLY MAN MAN MAN!

Tbh, don't. I thought it was amazing, but I can't picture most guys just you know "Loving it". I have a few guy friends who've read it, and thought it was okay, but I'd say put it aside unless you have nothing else better to read. But then again, I don't know what type of genre you're into... soo yeah pree'much you're choice =/ ahah that probably didn't help, I tried.

klw

12-11-2008, 12:53 PM

Not really that much of an excuse. At 13 I'd powered though every Wheel of Time book out, and had read literally thousands of fanfiction. Most of which were better than Twilight.

Ontopic: I'm going to obtain a copy of the book soon, in a completely legal fashion, and I'm praying to god that it's not thinly veiled mormon propaganda.

That's all very well...
But I said I would take recommendations, you've probably taken an interest in reading before I have, therefore read more books that are most likely better then say "twilight".

But, I hope you're not disappointed with the host..

klw

12-11-2008, 1:09 PM

No, it's not just a fucking book. It's the epitome of absolute bullshit. The book industry was already bad enough in that too many publishing companies have been publishing only shit that they think can maybe get a movie deal eventually, and other stupid trash.

A movie deal? I bet 100% of people really don't care if a book is made into a movie or not, cause chances are they like the book better, so kinda sucks for the book publishing companies.I'm sorry you don't like meyers type of writing style, but who cares? That type of writing can take some people out of the real world, into something they wish could actually be. I bet all books/stories can be amazing if you just see what the whole concept of it is, from "Cat in the Hat" to some really life-altering serious book, all in all it really is "just a book". You either like/don't like, simple as that.

Ziggy St. Valentine

12-11-2008, 6:02 PM

Please tell me you did NOT just compare "the Cat in the Hat" to "the Host', what the fuck is wrong with you? "Cat in the Hat" is amazing.

klw

12-11-2008, 6:13 PM

Please tell me you did NOT just compate "the Cat in the Hat" to "the Host', what the fuck is wrong with you? "Cat in the Hat" is amazing.

compete* and no I didn't I was pointing out to someone that it doesn't matter what type of genre a book is, it can still be amazing. =/ so errrm, yeah...

Allen

12-11-2008, 9:21 PM

A movie deal? I bet 100% of people really don't care if a book is made into a movie or not, cause chances are they like the book better, so kinda sucks for the book publishing companies.I'm sorry you don't like meyers type of writing style, but who cares? That type of writing can take some people out of the real world, into something they wish could actually be. I bet all books/stories can be amazing if you just see what the whole concept of it is, from "Cat in the Hat" to some really life-altering serious book, all in all it really is "just a book". You either like/don't like, simple as that.

Well, yes. You're right. If I was looking to fill my mind with trash and bad writing, Meyer is probably the first person I'd go to. She doesn't have a "style" so much as she consistently fucking does it wrong and never learned to write properly. Blabbering on about shit is not style of any sort.

And yes, publishing companies really are looking to make bank, so they go with what they think will sell the best, and very few of them seem to think that people will buy anything other than fucking trash novels and biographies. At this point, save a couple of authors, biographies are the only new types of books I read.

klw

12-12-2008, 1:31 PM

biographies are the only new types of books I read.

oh that's cute, but I don't care. Same as the way you shouldn't care if people like Meyers books or not. But all been said, I still love the host, and suggest to the people who like meyers writing/fictional sci-fiish/romantic stories, to read it.

gagins

12-14-2008, 6:08 AM

Hmm to be honest probably not, im only 14... So I probably havent heard of a book that was worth reading before 2004? Cause I wasnt so much into reading at the time, for obvious reasons. But I would read them if I got some reccomendations? Probably the best book I've read that doesn't involve anything mythical, would have to be "The Outsiders" and I dont know if that counts cause I think its a bestseller? But I bet my reading expansion will you know expand.

Wow. There is something wrong with today's educational system.

On topic:
I'm thinking about reading 'The Host'. Should, I?

Ziggy St. Valentine

12-14-2008, 5:03 PM

Wow. There is something wrong with today's educational system.

On topic:
I'm thinking about reading 'The Host'. Should, I?

Clearly you shouldn't.

Vir

12-14-2008, 6:07 PM

For me the host was definately one of the best books I've ever read. Sure it took a couple chapters to fully get into, but aren't all books like that? But anyways, the whole concept of it was unbelieveabley amazing. The whole, living on a planet where humans naturally belonged, but then was overcome by a higher power, that thought to have a better grasp how to live on the planet, was really interesting, that made me wonder how life would be if that really happend. Then how some of the i guess 'souls' came accustomed to live the way humans originally did, showed me that things can always change. The Characters were described in a way so different from the way most characters are in other books, because usually one character = one body, one person. But not with the host, which I thought made it unique. Stephenie Meyer is officially the best author of my life ! (:

I'm not sure how the character's were described that made them so different but another book that is slightly difficult due to the range and variations of the characters is "A Fire Upon the Deep" its part of a series I think but I never got around to the other books but this one is pretty legit.

I haven't read the host yet but if anyone wants to lend me a copy I'll try it out, but I'm not spending the little money I have on it.

Maelstrom

12-15-2008, 11:54 AM

I think it's funny how the complete newbs are the only ones that like it.

As a complete newb, I resent this.

Allen

12-16-2008, 12:58 PM

oh that's cute, but I don't care. Same as the way you shouldn't care if people like Meyers books or not. But all been said, I still love the host, and suggest to the people who like meyers writing/fictional sci-fiish/romantic stories, to read it.

Clearly, being one sentence among several, that was not an overall summary of my post.

I guess that's what reading bullshit by stupid women who don't know how to write does to your reading comprehension skills.

klw

12-16-2008, 8:47 PM

Clearly, being one sentence among several, that was not an overall summary of my post.

I guess that's what reading bullshit by stupid women who don't know how to write does to your reading comprehension skills.

yeah, you know what's up.

lm008m

12-22-2008, 7:18 PM

compete* and no I didn't I was pointing out to someone that it doesn't matter what type of genre a book is, it can still be amazing. =/ so errrm, yeah...

*compare*

Brooser

01-04-2009, 1:39 PM

<_< Um. At the risk of being flamed, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I liked The Host. I thought the concept was interesting; kind of like what the aftermath of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers would be, after all the humans lose (most of them, at least). Yeah, there's the love story and all that, but it also deals with a lot of stuff like prejudice, revenge, etc. Even the love story in itself is kind of interesting, since it deals with someone looking exactly like the person you love, so you want to love them, but they're really an alien so you want them dead, but not really because you love them, etc etc. Meyers is hardly the best author out there, but I still thought it was a good book. I found it hard to put down, so it had to have been doing something right.

And while Meyers is by no means amazingly super fantabulous, I'd still say it's a bit of a stretch to call the book "the epitome of absolute bullshit". I mean, really. Have you seen a lot of the other stuff in the sci-fi/fantasy sections of bookstores? Don't forget that a lot of the stuff that's really bad is that which you HAVEN'T heard of. =P

Arklem_Dangerous

01-04-2009, 8:13 PM

How about this? I vote Stephenie Meyer just kind of sucks...in general. I guess the Host was ok, but has anyone seen the "Twilight" movie? Oh boy, there were so many things wrong with that movie that most of them shouldn't be mentioned, but sparkling vampires? There I draw the line.
Stephenie Meyer could be an ok writer if she actually took a class or anything. Her writing is as bad as mine.