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Chronon
11-12-2007, 5:26 PM
the thing I have a problem with is close-minded music fans who think that the music they listen to is somehow superior to everyone else's.
Some music is superior to others. Such as, you would say that someone whose favorite band are Fall Out Boy has much worse taste in music than the person who loves the Beatles, because the Beatles are a superior band.
Evidently, Metal Angel believes that his pathetic excuse for music is better than what we listen to. He is totally entitled to that opinion. He would say that Cannibal Corpse are a superior band to Arcade Fire and whatever your favorite band is.
Pelican Man
11-12-2007, 5:42 PM
Some music is superior to others. Such as, you would say that someone whose favorite band are Fall Out Boy has much worse taste in music than the person who loves the Beatles, because the Beatles are a superior band.
Some music is not superior to others. Bands, yes, some bands are better than others. But in my opinion, all styles of music offer different things, so are all good in their own right, and it's unfair to compare say, metal to funk.
Yes, a good pop band is better than a shitty metal band, but that has nothing to do with the music or the style, that's just the band.
Anyway, I like Fall Out Boy more than the Beatles :indiff:
Chronon
11-12-2007, 6:38 PM
As for your first paragraph, you are indeed correct. Some genres are ruined by the artists in it (a fine example of this is rap, rap can indeed be a great way to express emotions, but all rappers just talk about banging hos and going in clubs and other crap), but all genres do have something to offer.
I'm guessing your line at the end is sarcasm. If not, just shut up. You have nothing left to say that is of any value to this thread. But I'm sure it's sarcasm, so whatever.
EDIT: You're not really the frontman of Jimmy Eat World, are you?
EDIT 2: Well, I guess it's not sarcasm...
1. Tegan and Sara
2. Bagster (ska band from Sydney)
3. Muse
4. Metallica
5. Reel Big Fish
6. Less Than Jake
7. Saliva
8. In Flames
9. Parkway Drive
10. Goo Goo Dolls
11. Breaking Benjamin
12. Fall Out Boy
13. Panic! at the Disco
14. Incubus
15. Papa Roach
16. Soulfly
17. Streetlight Manifesto
18. Taproot
19. Alterbridge
20. My Chemical Romance
:0
Anyway, Fall Out Boy are terrible, not much else to that, and I don't think that you are the frontman as you referred to yourself as a bass player, and the frontman is just a guitar player, not bass.
Pelican Man
11-12-2007, 7:46 PM
As for your first paragraph, you are indeed correct. Some genres are ruined by the artists in it (a fine example of this is rap, rap can indeed be a great way to express emotions, but all rappers just talk about banging hos and going in clubs and other crap), but all genres do have something to offer.
Stop changing my words around. I said no genres are bad, the artists are bad. Not that artists ruin genres.
I'm guessing your line at the end is sarcasm. If not, just shut up. You have nothing left to say that is of any value to this thread. But I'm sure it's sarcasm, so whatever.
No, it's not. The Beatles are good musicians, I give them credit for that, and I enjoy songs like Blackbird and Norwegian Wood. But I do enjoy listening to Fall Out Boy more. I prefer modern music to old pop music, that's just my tastes. And if you honestly think that means I have no credibility whatsoever as to my opinions, then it is you who should shut up, you close minded moron.
Anyway, Fall Out Boy are terrible, not much else to that, and I don't think that you are the frontman as you referred to yourself as a bass player, and the frontman is just a guitar player, not bass.
Guitar and vocals, genius. And where did I say that I didn't play guitar? I probably play more guitar than bass these days, actually. But my passion has always been bass.
Chronon
11-12-2007, 8:20 PM
Stop changing my words around. I said no genres are bad, the artists are bad. Not that artists ruin genres.
I wasn't changing your words around, I was offering my own opinions to the subject. I was adding on that I thought that some genres were worse than others (for example, the genre of rock is more creative and exciting than rap) because of the artists in that genre.
No, it's not. The Beatles are good musicians, I give them credit for that, and I enjoy songs like Blackbird and Norwegian Wood. But I do enjoy listening to Fall Out Boy more. I prefer modern music to old pop music, that's just my tastes. And if you honestly think that means I have no credibility whatsoever as to my opinions, then it is you who should shut up, you close minded moron.
I also prefer modern music by far to older music, that is also my tastes. If you will look at my top 20, 18/20 bands are very recent bands. I own Infinity on High, I deeply regret buying it, as it sucks. I also own Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Abbey Road, and 1, and I can say that each of these albums are far, far more enjoyable than Infinity on High. Infinity on High has no creativity whatsoever. It's just bland pop songs with no point.
Guitar and vocals, genius. And where did I say that I didn't play guitar? I probably play more guitar than bass these days, actually. But my passion has always been bass.
It's not that you didn't say that you played guitar, it's that you referred to yourself as a bass player. That you thought of yourself as a bass player over a guitar player makes me think that you are not the frontman of Jimmy Eat World.
It's beyond me why you have that in your title thing, though. :|
the2na
11-12-2007, 10:27 PM
My turn:
It might be a little bit more then twenty, but I like alot of different kinds of music.
The White Stripes
The Beatles
Say Anything
Soundgarden
System of A Down
Bob Dylan
A Perfect Circle
Johnny Cash
Queens of the Stone Age
The Fall Of Troy
Kings of Leon
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
+44
Paramore
Smashing Pumpkins
Jack Johnson
Rage Against The Machine
Metallica
Avenged Sevenfold
Against Me!
Reel Big Fish
Tokyo Ska Paradise Band
The Horrors
Ok Go
Radiohead
Seether
Silversun Pickups
The Used
Tegan and Sara
Audioslave
CheesePlease
11-12-2007, 11:52 PM
I'm slightly disappointed that no-one has come and stomped all over my list. =[
Pelican Man
11-13-2007, 12:28 AM
I wasn't changing your words around, I was offering my own opinions to the subject. I was adding on that I thought that some genres were worse than others (for example, the genre of rock is more creative and exciting than rap) because of the artists in that genre.
The way you worded it made it sound as if you were agreeing with the fact that bands ruin genres, which isn't what I said, thus the confusion.
I also prefer modern music by far to older music, that is also my tastes. If you will look at my top 20, 18/20 bands are very recent bands. I own Infinity on High, I deeply regret buying it, as it sucks. I also own Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Abbey Road, and 1, and I can say that each of these albums are far, far more enjoyable than Infinity on High. Infinity on High has no creativity whatsoever. It's just bland pop songs with no point.
And The Beatles wrote songs suited to the public as of 10 or so years ago. Fall Out Boy write songs suited to the youth of today. As a youth of today, I understandably prefer Fall Out Boy to The Beatles, though I recognize The Beatles as good musicians, they're not the kind of thing I want popping into my mp3 player while I'm riding the train.
It's not that you didn't say that you played guitar, it's that you referred to yourself as a bass player. That you thought of yourself as a bass player over a guitar player makes me think that you are not the frontman of Jimmy Eat World.
It's beyond me why you have that in your title thing, though. :|
I referred to myself as a bass player because bass is my passion. Fact is, I'm still a better guitarist than a good majority of musicians I know. But I AM the best bass player out of all the musicians I know.
Metal Angel
11-13-2007, 2:27 AM
*snicker*
This is hilarious. So we finally get a reason from a metalhead as to why they like their music, and it turns out to be ridiculous.
This is the narrow minded reply that I expect from a mainstream person. You're so far up the arse of the norm that you think it's the only possible way of being.
I can't even describe how idiotic this is, as it's apparent to everyone that hasn't been brain damaged enough to believe that metal is an acceptable substitute for music. You listen to music that you admit gives you pain and makes you think violent thoughts.
The music doesn't give me pain. I give myself the pain while dancing to it, because I put alot of effort into it. It's really no different then doing a martial art in that respect - you do something that strains your body, and while it might hurt you have alot of fun doing it.
And the music doesn't give me violent thoughts. They are already there. It's the same with everyone. The music just helps me to release it in a non-violent manner.
But that doesn't matter, does it? Because people who listen to popular styles of music never beat people up or kill people, do they?
Let me introduce you to an emotion I call "happiness". It is something that normal human beings try to acheive. It is very pleasant and it can be found by listening to wonderful music like the Flaming Lips and the Shins. :) :) :)
Fake happiness, perhaps. Happiness that's been processed and disturbuted to the masses, who are then ordered to share in it.
Seriously, I have people who smile for no fucking reason. If you're sad, you're sad. If you're happy, you're happy. So fucking faking it.
If I'm pissed off and someone tells me to smile, I tend to tell them to fuck off.
Alright, I have to laugh here. Just look at the names of these genres! Cannibal metal! Disembowelment metal! Suicide metal! Apocalypse metal! (actually I can see that last one being a pretty cool genre).
They are supposed to be amusing. And there's no such thing as Suicide Metal - that's not Metal, it's Emo. The closest Metal gets to suicide is when they sing about people commiting suicide because they are cowards who can't face the realities of the world.
And really, if you can't understand something then you really shouldn't have an opinion on the matter. I would expect you've heard less then a few seconds of any given Extreme Metal song - which is more then alot of people have.
I base this opinion on the fact you've not really said anything about the music itself.
Whereas I have heard countless hours of popular music, forcefed to me wherever I go. On the TV, out of people's cars, in shops...wherever I go, I'm followed by music I don't like.
And I imagine you'd not be very happy either if my music was playing everywhere as your music was in the minority.
Seriously, if everyone listened to Extreme Metal, the world would probably be a better place for it. All the weak assholes would kill themselves out of fear, people would vent their anger properly and generally people would be nicer to each other and there'd be less prejudice.
If you'd ever spent more then a few seconds with a group of Metalheads you'll notice they are mostly rather nice people. They joke and laugh, poke mild fun at each other and swear alot, but they never bottle people in the face, push people out of the way or damage people's cars.
Oh yes, what a terrible thing to be.
Edit: And yes, Metal is far superior to everything short of Jazz or Classical. On sheer technicality and lyrical content alone, disregarding any specific tastes.
Edit: And yes, Metal is far superior to everything short of Jazz or Classical. On sheer technicality and lyrical content alone, disregarding any specific tastes.
Pelican Man
11-13-2007, 3:19 AM
If you'd ever spent more then a few seconds with a group of Metalheads you'll notice they are mostly rather nice people. They joke and laugh, poke mild fun at each other and swear alot, but they never bottle people in the face, push people out of the way or damage people's cars.
You're 100% right, I HAVE noticed that attitude with all my metalhead friends.
Then again, I've noticed the same attitude from people who like other styles more, or, god forbid, don't like metal AT ALL!
Edit: And yes, Metal is far superior to everything short of Jazz or Classical. On sheer technicality and lyrical content alone, disregarding any specific tastes.
You can call metal up on being better technical work, even though there are bands who exude just as much technicality, and far more musical knowledge playing within their own styles.
But don't for a second think that metal has superior lyrical content and that you saying that has any bearing. Because fact is, we know that you agree with the lyrics and you feel that they speak for your opinions, feelings and views of the world. You've told us that many times already. But not everyone thinks that way, so not everyone is going to think that metal is better lyrically. In fact, a lot of people don't see the world in such a violent light, so would say that lyrically, metal is very weak.
HappinessMan
11-13-2007, 3:39 AM
1. Dethklok (Just recently started listening to them and honestly, its hard for me to stop for days at a time)
2. The medic droid (Obscure, mostly plays techno/powerpop, call me a fag :lol:)
3. From Autumn to Ashes (Rock/Screaming. Most of their stuff isn't too incredible, except for few songs. Try Pioneers)
4. Fuel (Only heard of them this week. They know how to make someone feel the depth of the song)
5. Buckethead (Just plain awesome)
6. Sikth (Kris' myspace introduced me to them.)
Bands I really don't care about, but are on my Itunes:
7. My Chemical Romance (Took me awhile to realize The Black Parade was awful. Older stuff isn't too bad)
8. Breaking Benjamin (Phobia sucked shit. Was very disappointed.)
9. Red Hot Chili Peppers (Good band, but they just don't appeal to me)
10. Darude (Techno just relaxes me)
I'm not much of a band person, I have alot of just random songs on my Itunes. If I like a song, I could care less about the band.
Also, no matter what in this thread, people are gonna give you shit. No one can completely agree on the greatest music.
Metal Angel
11-13-2007, 3:43 AM
Far more non-Metalheads are violent assholes who ruin life for other people. That's my point.
And as for lyrical content, have you ever read the lyrics to a Death Metal song? Look at the words used:
There's something inside me
It's, it's coming out
I feel like killing you
Let loose the anger, held back too long
My blood runs cold
Through my anatomy, dwells another being
Rooted in my cortex, a servant to its bidding
Brutality now becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Eyes bulging from their sockets
With every swing of my mallet
I smash your fucking head in, until brains seep in
through the cracks, blood does leak
distorted beauty, catastrophe
Steaming slop, splattered all over me
Lifeless body, slouching dead lecherous abcess, where you once had a head
Avoiding the prophecy of my new found lust
You will never live again, soon your life will end
I'll see you die at my feet, eternally I smash your face
facial bones collapse as I crack your skull in half
Crushing, cranial, contents
Draining the snot, I rip out the eyes
Squeezing them in my hands nerves are incised
Peeling the flesh off the bottom of my weapon
Involuntarily pulpifying facial regions
Suffer, and then you die
Torture, pulverized
At one with my sixth sense, I feel free
To kill as I please, no one can stop me
Created to kill, the carnage continues
Violently reshaping human facial tissue
Brutality becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Note that alot of those words you never see in a non-Metal context, and I don't just mean the gory words. Long and complicated words just completely escape popular music.
Oh, and that's not even an especially complicated song either...this is:
Reconstruction in the amorphous line of time
Powerful emanation of energy
I see the constellations changing colour
Mathematical combinations of triangular visions
Perfect
to Syntonizing the elements to create the tunnel
Absorbing all planet energy, Im the vortex, the epicentre...
Graphical emanation of numbers in my evolved system
Equal position? The equal unequal...
Erroneous calculation,
the imperfection of the human mind
Primitive facts, spectral sounds
Desperately in the surface i scream
Reconstruction in the amorphous line of time
Powerful emanation of energy
Oh ah? Where are the gory lyrics there, huh? But if you heard them you'd instantly think they were singing about killing people, because you sterotype everything.
mrjack
11-13-2007, 3:49 AM
1. Pantera
2. Metallica
3. Jimi Hendrix \ band of gypsies
4. Pink Floyd
5. iron maiden
6. black sabith
7. system of a down
8. radiohead
9. placebo
10. led zeppelin
11. nirvana
12. joe satriani
13. British India
14. red hot chillei peppers
15. bob dylen
16. mudvayne
17. queens of the stone age
18. kings of leon
19. foo fighters
20. silverchair
not exact order
Pelican Man
11-13-2007, 3:59 AM
Oh ah? Where are the gory lyrics there, huh? But if you heard them you'd instantly think they were singing about killing people, because you sterotype everything.
Hold on, let me fetch them.
I feel like killing you
Brutality now becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Eyes bulging from their sockets
With every swing of my mallet
I smash your fucking head in, until brains seep in
through the cracks, blood does leak
distorted beauty, catastrophe
Steaming slop, splattered all over me
Lifeless body, slouching dead lecherous abcess, where you once had a head
You will never live again, soon your life will end
I'll see you die at my feet, eternally I smash your face
facial bones collapse as I crack your skull in half
Crushing, cranial, contents
Suffer, and then you die
To kill as I please, no one can stop me
Brutality becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Pretty much every single line is the vocalist describing his brutal killing. So, let's see... about killing people? Check. Gore? Check.
Oh, and that's not even an especially complicated song either...this is:
<lyrics>
You sound like one of those people who think that because they use big words, that it means they're smarter than everyone else.
Those lyrics remind me of Tool. Take that however you will.
Metal Angel
11-13-2007, 4:06 AM
You know, you completely missed the fucking point. But since you seem to enjoy the view from your high chair, I'll just leave you to it.
After all, a person's own imagination is far better then looking at the world as it really is.
Pelican Man
11-13-2007, 4:18 AM
You know, you completely missed the fucking point. But since you seem to enjoy the view from your high chair, I'll just leave you to it.
I'm not the one that's saying "my style of music is better than yours, and if you don't like that, then poo-poo to you :mad:".
After all, a person's own imagination is far better then looking at the world as it really is.
You've done a pretty decent job of proving this point, I'll give you that.
There's something inside me
It's, it's coming out
I feel like killing you
Let loose the anger, held back too long
My blood runs cold
Through my anatomy, dwells another being
Rooted in my cortex, a servant to its bidding
Brutality now becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Eyes bulging from their sockets
With every swing of my mallet
I smash your fucking head in, until brains seep in
through the cracks, blood does leak
distorted beauty, catastrophe
Steaming slop, splattered all over me
Lifeless body, slouching dead lecherous abcess, where you once had a head
Avoiding the prophecy of my new found lust
You will never live again, soon your life will end
I'll see you die at my feet, eternally I smash your face
facial bones collapse as I crack your skull in half
Crushing, cranial, contents
Draining the snot, I rip out the eyes
Squeezing them in my hands nerves are incised
Peeling the flesh off the bottom of my weapon
Involuntarily pulpifying facial regions
Suffer, and then you die
Torture, pulverized
At one with my sixth sense, I feel free
To kill as I please, no one can stop me
Created to kill, the carnage continues
Violently reshaping human facial tissue
Brutality becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
I'm a huge metalhead, and those are fucking terrible lyrics. What is that shit, Cannibal Corpse?
Behemoth, far better
There was only one long and terrible winter
Where icy blackness covered the sun and the grass
Dethroned light ended its existence
Hell brought there all thunders and winds
All the blasphemy from the four sides of the world
Gods have forgotten this land, where fear
Caught the throat with the bony hand
And the wolf howled gloomy song of cold, frost and hunger...
The lakes enslaved in hard icy shackles
Wild trees covered the happy world
Which will never wake up again
Life has affected a new form here
Through the icy vastlands run wild
Hordes of wolves, moonless night, that’s all
Moon is covered with fresh meat, threw by the hungry hordes
Or for a more well known band, earlier In Flames
egoism dictates human relations
a world where fashion outshines morality
here success is written in blood-red colours
designed by the thirst for power
gather the faithful and propose a toast
to the epoch of indifference
an all to ordinary story
with aftertaste so bitter
forced to be someone I don't want to be
I'm losing myself. sinking deeper down
I'm caught in the world wound web
a time represented by the void
an excuse without content
stuck in the abyss of existence
with a content void of excuse
an all to ordinary story
this is my story
with an aftertaste so bitter
sinking deeper down
I'm caught - I'm cage
I'm gone
With blatently attention seeking and clichèd lyrics like you originally posted, you do nothing but lower peoples already minimal responsiveness to Metal.
Metal Angel
11-13-2007, 7:56 AM
Cannibal Corpse is the height of lyrical content. If you can't see that then you're a fag.
:)
Cannibal Corpse are a fucking disgrace to metal. Bunch of posers screaming about gore because they think it's 'metal' and 'cool'
Anal Cunt put more thought into their lyrics than Cannibal Corpse do
you fucking fag
you have a mustache
you hang around with men
and stare at thier ass
[chorus:]
you're the gayest guy i've ever seen,you play on a softball team,you're the biggest fag i've
ever seen,you play on a softball team
your teams sponsored by a gay bar
and you've got team pride
too bad most of your team
all got a.i.d.s. and died
[chorus]
If you want real lyrics go listen to real metal bands, like Terrorust.
Chronon
11-13-2007, 6:07 PM
And The Beatles wrote songs suited to the public as of 10 or so years ago. Fall Out Boy write songs suited to the youth of today. As a youth of today, I understandably prefer Fall Out Boy to The Beatles, though I recognize The Beatles as good musicians, they're not the kind of thing I want popping into my mp3 player while I'm riding the train.
I am a youth of today (probably younger than you) and I hate Fall Out Boy, and I listen to the Beatles on my iPod while I'm riding the bus. I used to listen to FOB on the bus, but then I realized they suck.
Fall Out Boy are just pandering to teenagers to get money. The Beatles originally did, but you can't say that I Am the Walrus was a moneymaking scheme.
This is the narrow minded reply that I expect from a mainstream person. You're so far up the arse of the norm that you think it's the only possible way of being.
Just so you know, I know maybe two people irl that listen to the same music that I do. Everyone else either listens to the Top 40 crap, or modern rock (like Green Day, Simple Plan, Sum 41, Linkin Park, etc.)
Fake happiness, perhaps. Happiness that's been processed and disturbuted to the masses, who are then ordered to share in it.
Seriously, I have people who smile for no fucking reason. If you're sad, you're sad. If you're happy, you're happy. So fucking faking it.
If I'm pissed off and someone tells me to smile, I tend to tell them to fuck off.
I don't fake happiness. Some of my music makes me happy, because it's just... pleasant and wonderful. Sometimes I am in a really bad mood, but it's not fun being in a bad mood. What people's goals are supposed to be is making yourself happy.
I base this opinion on the fact you've not really said anything about the music itself.
Fine. So I looked up some of Cannibal Corpse's music on iTunes, listened to the thirty second samples... and...
Every track sounds exactly the same. There's these drums that sound like machine guns, and then the guitars are just in a steady drone behind it. Then there's this dude with the deepest voice ever singing. It was hilarious the first time I heard it, but then I was like "this sucks."
Now I expect you to retaliate with the fact that the guitarwork is great, but playing a lot of notes really fast does not make good music. Making good music is making stuff that sounds pleasant to the human ear. It most certainly does not to me.
Whereas I have heard countless hours of popular music, forcefed to me wherever I go. On the TV, out of people's cars, in shops...wherever I go, I'm followed by music I don't like.
I can sort of relate. Not really, but living in a middle school means people singing songs like Crank That and Apoligize wherever they go. Of course, these songs suck, which makes me mad. It's more drastic with you, of course.
Note that alot of those words you never see in a non-Metal context, and I don't just mean the gory words. Long and complicated words just completely escape popular music.
You described the bands on my list as popular music, and I can think of four bands on my list that have words that long in their lyrics. (Modest Mouse, the Shins, the Decemberists, They Might Be Giants).
But you know, it doesn't really matter anyway. Because long words mean far less to humans than short words. To paraphrase one of the Beatles, if you're drowning, you're not going to say "Hello, I may require some assistance here," you're going to scream.
Pelican Man
11-14-2007, 1:24 AM
I am a youth of today (probably younger than you) and I hate Fall Out Boy, and I listen to the Beatles on my iPod while I'm riding the bus. I used to listen to FOB on the bus, but then I realized they suck.
Fall Out Boy are just pandering to teenagers to get money. The Beatles originally did, but you can't say that I Am the Walrus was a moneymaking scheme.
Should I congratulate you on being an individual?
Fall Out Boy write songs specifically for our generation, so I don't see why you're making such a big fuss that I enjoy them more than a band that's suited to our parents' tastes.
Chronon
11-14-2007, 6:14 AM
Should I congratulate you on being an individual?
Fall Out Boy write songs specifically for our generation, so I don't see why you're making such a big fuss that I enjoy them more than a band that's suited to our parents' tastes.
Yes, yes you should. I know that FOB wants me to buy their music, I know I'm their target audience. But I also know that their music is bland, not at all creative, and somewhat boring. People need to realize that.
Just so you know, listening to the Beatles is still "cool". If you go to Target, where they have all the t-shirts with funny sayings on them, they also have t-shirts of two or three bands. The bands are Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and the Beatles. Also, if you read the comic Zits, about trendy teenagers and things they do, today and yesterday there were comics about teenagers listening to the Beatles.
Of course, that's not why I listen to them, but the Beatles are timeless, and people can enjoy them no matter when they grow up if they have taste in music.
Pelican Man
11-14-2007, 5:22 PM
Yes, yes you should. I know that FOB wants me to buy their music, I know I'm their target audience. But I also know that their music is bland, not at all creative, and somewhat boring. People need to realize that.
Just so you know, listening to the Beatles is still "cool". If you go to Target, where they have all the t-shirts with funny sayings on them, they also have t-shirts of two or three bands. The bands are Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and the Beatles. Also, if you read the comic Zits, about trendy teenagers and things they do, today and yesterday there were comics about teenagers listening to the Beatles.
Of course, that's not why I listen to them, but the Beatles are timeless, and people can enjoy them no matter when they grow up if they have taste in music.
I don't debate how "cool" it is to listen to The Beatles. What I'm saying is that I like FOB more because their music appeals to me more, as it's meant to. End of.
Chronon
11-14-2007, 5:27 PM
I don't debate how "cool" it is to listen to The Beatles. What I'm saying is that I like FOB more because their music appeals to me more, as it's meant to. End of.
If that is so, then please explain to me why I don't like them.
Pelican Man
11-14-2007, 5:34 PM
If that is so, then please explain to me why I don't like them.
Because you're an individual with your own music tastes :indiff:
Chronon
11-14-2007, 6:05 PM
Because you're an individual with your own music tastes :indiff:
So are you. You like Tegan and Sara, (who I also like) and they are not trying to appeal to you. I like Arcade Fire, and they are not trying to appeal to me. You like Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me. I hate Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me.
Hmm. Something doesn't add up.
Pelican Man
11-14-2007, 8:50 PM
So are you. You like Tegan and Sara, (who I also like) and they are not trying to appeal to you. I like Arcade Fire, and they are not trying to appeal to me. You like Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me. I hate Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me.
Hmm. Something doesn't add up.
I like music for what it is, not because it's trying to appeal to me. There are 2 ways I find out about bands; bands that friends tell me about, and bands that get play on the radio.
Thus my tastes are a mix of unknown, lesser-liked bands, and mainstream bands that most people refuse to admit that they like merely because they want to seem different from the norm.
Edit: thought I'd add an updated list.
1. Tegan and Sara
2. Metallica
3. Ben Thompson Band
4. Reel Big Fish
5. Protest the Hero
6. Incubus
7. Saliva
8. Muse
9. Mad Caddies
10. The Aquabats
11. Breaking Benjamin
12. Alterbridge
13. Goo Goo Dolls
14. Streetlight Manifesto
15. Rage Against the Machine
16. The Mars Volta
17. Parkway Drive
18. Papa Roach
19. Bagster
20. The Avalanches
Quadros
11-15-2007, 7:56 AM
So are you. You like Tegan and Sara, (who I also like) and they are not trying to appeal to you. I like Arcade Fire, and they are not trying to appeal to me. You like Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me. I hate Fall Out Boy, and they are trying to appeal to me.
Hmm. Something doesn't add up.
Maybe it's the fact that you don't think very famous and successful bands aren't trying to make music which appeals to people? Just a thought. And although Peli's kinda sounding hypocritical, what he's saying isn't at all. He doesn't like the band because they're TRYING to appeal to him, He likes them because they DO appeal to him, and he's not going to write them off because they're so blatently and shamelessly writing music they think people will enjoy listening to. Because when you think about it, what's sadder? Listening to good but popular and over-rated music, or not listening to that good music just because it's popular and other people's opinions are far stronger to the possitive than perhaps the music deserves?
With that said peli, you are kind of matyring yourself with this whole 'I'm so edgy for liking these bands that other people are edgy for not liking because they're popular' thing, and in that way you ARE being a tad hypocritical. And now so am I.
Pelican Man
11-15-2007, 8:16 AM
With that said peli, you are kind of matyring yourself with this whole 'I'm so edgy for liking these bands that other people are edgy for not liking because they're popular' thing, and in that way you ARE being a tad hypocritical. And now so am I.
I don't claim, or try to be edgy. All I'm saying is that I like the bands that I like because their music appeals to me, which it usually does so because it's meant to.
Chronon
11-15-2007, 3:59 PM
16. The Mars Volta
I am so into the Mars Volta now... they're definitely shaping up to be on my list. Once I scrounge up some money I'm buying some of their stuff for sure. Probably Amputechture, as of the songs I've heard, the best were off of that album.
I'll post an updated list once I buy it... they'll probably be number two or something.
Pelican Man
11-15-2007, 5:57 PM
I am so into the Mars Volta now... they're definitely shaping up to be on my list. Once I scrounge up some money I'm buying some of their stuff for sure. Probably Amputechture, as of the songs I've heard, the best were off of that album.
I'll post an updated list once I buy it... they'll probably be number two or something.
Their albums are expensive, considering how few songs some of them have on them. I'll end up buying them once I have the money.
I'll end up getting De-Loused int eh Comatorium, mainly because it has the most songs, but also for Eriatarka and, to some extent, Drunkship of Lanterns.
Chronon
11-15-2007, 6:24 PM
:|
Dude, that's because half of the songs are over ten minutes long.
If I'm not mistaken, Frances the Mute has a 30 minute song. I might get Frances if I like Amputechture, as that album has L'via L'viaquez. I heard the four minute version of it, I can only imagine how awesome the eleven minute version is.
Handel
11-15-2007, 8:33 PM
In no real order (numbers are just so I don't go over 20):
1. Nine Inch Nails
2. Saul Williams
3. LCD Soundsystem
4. Death From Above 1979
5. The Blood Brothers
6. Tool
7. A Perfect Circle
8. Puscifer
9. Radiohead
10. The Mars Volta
11. At the Drive-In
12. Animal Collective
13. Beck
14. Ratatat
15. The World/Inferno Friendship Society
16. The Fall of Troy
17. 65daysofstatic
18. Explosions in the Sky
19. Tenacious D
20. The Strokes.
Chronon
11-15-2007, 8:38 PM
10. The Mars Volta
Want to join our discussion?
I'm not going to diss your taste because it's pretty good.
Handel
11-15-2007, 8:52 PM
Sure. I used to be HUGE on TMV, but now I've sorta grown to like AtD-I a bit more. For the record, I still believe De-Loused in the Comatorium is one of the greatest albums ever produced. Amputechture was good... but it just seemed a bit disconnected. Cedric and Omar are some of the most talented musicians on the face of the planet, but Amputechture seemed to serve only to feature that, but not to create a coherent, fluid record.
I'd rank their albums in this order:
De-Loused in the Comatorium
Tremulant
Frances the Mute
Amputechture.
Pelican Man
11-16-2007, 3:15 AM
:|
Dude, that's because half of the songs are over ten minutes long.
Oh really? I hadn't noticed. </sarcasm>
It still contains the same, if not less amount of music as other CDs, yet they cost more. And where I come from they're a really, really unknown band.
I don't see why I should have to pay double what I pay for an album from Muse or similar, for an album that if I don't buy it, no one else will.
And I shall soon own all the Muse albums, as today I discovered that the place where I bought Absolution from for $10(AU), also has all their other CDs for the same price, w00t w00t.
The Bobster
11-16-2007, 9:56 AM
1. In Flames
2. Lamb Of God
3. Rush
4. Iron Maiden
5. Metallica
6. Dark Tranquillity
7. Thine Eyes Bleed
8. Megadeth
9. Sonata Arctica
10. Slayer
Chozo01
11-16-2007, 3:44 PM
Flame wars are always fun.
Foo Fighters
Alice in Chains
Led Zeppelin
Soundgarden
Velvet Revolver
Blue Oyster Cult
Primus
Deep Purple
Nirvana (yes, Nirvana)
Jimi Hendrix
Metallica
Guns N' Roses
Smashing Pumpkins (Mellon Collie and earlier only)
Stone Temple Pilots
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Chronon
11-16-2007, 3:48 PM
Oh really? I hadn't noticed. </sarcasm>
It still contains the same, if not less amount of music as other CDs, yet they cost more. And where I come from they're a really, really unknown band.
I don't see why I should have to pay double what I pay for an album from Muse or similar, for an album that if I don't buy it, no one else will.
And I shall soon own all the Muse albums, as today I discovered that the place where I bought Absolution from for $10(AU), also has all their other CDs for the same price, w00t w00t.
It actually contains more music than most CDs...
De-Loused: 60:59
Frances the Mute: 76:57
Amputechture: 76:04
I don't know what the average CD length is, but I'm guessing about 45 minutes. So.. Mars Volta is longer than the norm.
I didn't know Mars Volta has more expensive CDs than most... I buy all my music off of iTunes and they all cost ten dollars, same as all CDs.
I'm listening to L'Via L'Viaquez right now, actually.
Chozo01
11-16-2007, 3:50 PM
It actually contains more music than most CDs...
De-Loused: 60:59
Frances the Mute: 76:57
Amputechture: 76:04
I don't know what the average CD length is, but I'm guessing about 45 minutes. So.. Mars Volta is longer than the norm.
I didn't know Mars Volta has more expensive CDs than most... I buy all my music off of iTunes and they all cost ten dollars, same as all CDs.
I'm listening to L'Via L'Viaquez right now, actually.I'd actually guess that the average album is closer to 55 mins.
Chronon
11-16-2007, 4:03 PM
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070830033333AA5FOEo
Yes! I was closer.
Now I'm listening to Televators. This band is amazing.
superdoor
11-16-2007, 4:11 PM
haha i love how people all have opinions on music and are filling to have giant arguements with giant posts to get their point across
Anywho im 15 and no into the regular stuff really, though i think everyone should have their own opinion and right to express themselves anyway they want....cept rappers lool
my top 10 musicians would probably be(in a rough order):
1. Bob Dylan
2.Josh Ritter
3Thin Lizzy
4.Pink floyd
5. Jack Johnson
6.Simon And garfunkle
7.Arctic Monkeys
8.The Beatles
9.The Strokes
10.Muse
Man i shoulda been born in another decad but meh...so what you guys opininion on my taste? lol
oh and ive tried writing some things...but now i dont no what to do with them lol
muffin
11-16-2007, 4:18 PM
Alright, I know I'm going to get flamed for quite a few of these, but...
Not in any real order.
1. Brand New.
2. Parade the Day.
3. Taking Back Sunday.
4. Death Cab for Cutie.
5. The Boy Least Likely To.
6. Blink 182.
7. Fall Out Boy. (Read below.)
8. Armor for Sleep.
9. The Academy Is...
10. The Strokes.
11. Something Corporate.
12. Dashboard Confessional.
13. All Time Low.
14. Eisley.
15. The Postal Service.
16. The Early November.
17. The Color Fred.
18. Boys Like Girls. (Some stuff.)
19. Cute is What We Aim For. (Preparing for flamers...)
20. The Shins. (Some stuff.)
That's a lot fo what I listen to.
Like I said, I know you're going to flame... especially Fall Out Boy. I know a lot of people think they're "sell outs", and I know that many of their so-called fans are just crazed teenage girls who want to bang Pete Wentz and who only know the words to one song. But none of that matters to me.
Handel
11-16-2007, 4:23 PM
haha i love how people all have opinions on music and are filling to have giant arguements with giant posts to get their point across
Anywho im 15 and no into the regular stuff really, though i think everyone should have their own opinion and right to express themselves anyway they want....cept rappers lool
my top 10 musicians would probably be(in a rough order):
1. Bob Dylan
2.Josh Ritter
3Thin Lizzy
4.Pink floyd
5. Jack Johnson
6.Simon And garfunkle
7.Arctic Monkeys
8.The Beatles
9.The Strokes
10.Muse
Man i shoulda been born in another decad but meh...so what you guys opininion on my taste? lol
oh and ive tried writing some things...but now i dont no what to do with them lol
Not into the regular stuff? Bob Dylan was (and is) one of the most popular musicians ever. I'm not sure, but I think I've heard of Pink Floyd and The Beatles before, too. Jack Johnson and Arctic Monkey compose about 50% of just about every teenager's musical diet.
This is not to say that your taste is flawed, but to say that you are somehow away from the mainstream with a list like that is laughable.
superdoor
11-16-2007, 4:36 PM
Haha maybe it is...sorry i just meant to say ive a varied taste and avnt found anyone who likes alot of the stuf i do. but thats why the internets great :)...im really not trying to sound like the poor im different from everyone and its sad thing you know...
Pelican Man
11-16-2007, 5:15 PM
It actually contains more music than most CDs...
De-Loused: 60:59
Frances the Mute: 76:57
Amputechture: 76:04
I don't know what the average CD length is, but I'm guessing about 45 minutes. So.. Mars Volta is longer than the norm.
I didn't know Mars Volta has more expensive CDs than most... I buy all my music off of iTunes and they all cost ten dollars, same as all CDs.
I'm listening to L'Via L'Viaquez right now, actually.
My bad then. But they still cost $10 more than most CDs, and I normally find some good stuff in the under $10 section, which is at least $20 cheaper than most Mars Volta CDs I can find.
And I'm talking physical CDs here.
Handel
11-16-2007, 5:29 PM
My bad then. But they still cost $10 more than most CDs, and I normally find some good stuff in the under $10 section, which is at least $20 cheaper than most Mars Volta CDs I can find.
And I'm talking physical CDs here.
The Mars Volta's albums do not cost $30. Stop making shit up to validate your point.
Chronon
11-16-2007, 6:05 PM
Why would he make that up?
Dude, don't spend 30$ on a Mars Volta CD. Instead, go to iTunes and buy all three for 30$. Yeah, you won't have the physical CD, but you get three times as much music.
Handel
11-16-2007, 6:19 PM
I don't know why he would make that up, but if he has seen them for $30, he's been to some pretty shitty records stores.
http://www.amazon.com/Loused-Comatorium-Mars-Volta/dp/B00009V7T2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195262295&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Amputechture-Mars-Volta/dp/B000GPI1BO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195262324&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Frances-Mute-Mars-Volta/dp/B0007GAEW6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195262350&sr=8-3
Chronon
11-16-2007, 6:35 PM
Ah.
So by reading your posts you like Amputechture the least?
Well, I've heard six Mars Volta songs and here is my ranking of them
TIE: L'via L'viaquez and Vermicide
Viscera Eyes
Meccamputechture
(then there's like a huge gap here)
Televators
(another huge gap)
The Widow
So, it's safe to say I'm getting Amputechture. But the Mars Volta, you either love them or you hate them. If I hate them, it won't matter which one I get, if I love them, I'll probably wind up getting the other two anyway.
Pelican Man
11-16-2007, 8:04 PM
The Mars Volta's albums do not cost $30. Stop making shit up to validate your point.
You're a fucking moron. I clearly admitted I was wrong on part in my post, saying "my bad". If I was wrong on the album prices, I would have said it there too. In my local CD store, in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, the Mars Volta albums range from $25 to $35(AUD). Of course it's going to be cheaper on Amazon, you dickhead.
I posted that after coming home from the CD store, and looking at the albums, so how about next time, you don't question my validity.
Chronon
11-16-2007, 8:06 PM
:0
There's no need to be so rude.
I'd get them on iTunes instead and get all three for thirty dollars instead of just one. :|
Handel
11-16-2007, 8:17 PM
My bad then. But they still cost $10 more than most CDs, and I normally find some good stuff in the under $10 section, which is at least $20 cheaper than most Mars Volta CDs I can find.
And I'm talking physical CDs here.
You're a fucking moron. I clearly admitted I was wrong on part in my post, saying "my bad". If I was wrong on the album prices, I would have said it there too. In my local CD store, in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, the Mars Volta albums range from $25 to $35(AUD). Of course it's going to be cheaper on Amazon, you dickhead.
I posted that after coming home from the CD store, and looking at the albums, so how about next time, you don't question my validity.
AUD is entirely different. I assumed that you were speaking in terms of USD, and for that assumption I apologize.
Chronon
11-16-2007, 8:28 PM
Oh, AUD...
It's really not that different, actually. 25$ to 35$ AUD is about 20$ to 30$ here...
Pelican Man
11-16-2007, 9:10 PM
There's no need to be so rude.
I'd get them on iTunes instead and get all three for thirty dollars instead of just one. :|
Sorry, I just found his accusation rude, so responded in kind. And I shoulda said this the first 2 times you suggested I buy them off iTunes; I don't use iTunes. Don't own an iPod, or anything else Apple related. And I prefer owning physical CDs.
AUD is entirely different. I assumed that you were speaking in terms of USD, and for that assumption I apologize.
In post 786 I stated that I was buying the Muse albums for $10(AU) a pop. I couldn't be bothered repeating that I was talking in AUD in all posts following.
Oh, AUD...
It's really not that different, actually. 25$ to 35$ AUD is about 20$ to 30$ here...
Last time I checked Australian dollars and American dollars were pretty close, I think.
Also;
Dick Smith Electronics Power House, Knox City Shopping Center, Vic, Aus:
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JB Hi-Fi, Knox City Shopping Center, Vic, Aus:
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Tremulant EP (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5109/jbtremulantepvo0.jpg)
Chrisso
11-17-2007, 12:34 AM
1. The Eagles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. The Beatles
5. Queen
6. Pink Floyd
7. AC/DC
8. Deep Purple
9. The Rolling Stones
10. Blue Oyster Cult
11. Guns N' Roses
12. The Who
13. Lynyrd Skynyrd
14. Cream
15. Santana
16. Ozzy
17. Black Sabbath
18. Journey
19. The Kinks
20. Bon Jovi
All of your musical taste blows compared to mine. If you don't listen to the music I listen to, you are a faggot.
Chronon
11-17-2007, 7:07 AM
I just bought Amputechture... I'm like thirty seconds into Vicarious Atonement...
:)
As to the dude above me, it seems like you just checked off every box on the CLASSIC ROCK BANDS THAT DUDES SHOULD KNOW ABOUT list and put them on your top twenty bands. "Hey, look! I have a bunch of classic rock bands on my list! Respect me for knowing about rock, please!" While in the end, it's just as bad as Fall Out Boy in terms of trend-following.
Ishabaal
11-17-2007, 9:18 AM
I could list twenty bands but that seems so... non-representative so I will list 50 instead.
1 The Flower Kings
2 Symphony X
3 Spock's Beard
4 Venetian Snares
5 Pain of Salvation
6 Echolyn
7 Dream Theater
8 The Devin Townsend Band
9 Sabrepulse
10 Ayreon
11 Porcupine Tree
12 Unexpect
13 65daysofstatic
14 Strapping Young Lad
15 Gong
16 Mr. Bungle
17 The Mars Volta
18 Frédéric Chopin
19 Ulver
20 Black Bonzo
Much better.
Chronon
11-17-2007, 10:09 AM
...
You have taste similar to one of my friends. Power metal and progressive metal and all.
Ishabaal
11-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Yeah, I still feel that it doesn't truly show my tastes, but hey what you gonna do.
Chronon
11-17-2007, 10:57 AM
25 The Mars Volta
Would you like to join our discussion? I am currently listening to Viscera Eyes.
Ishabaal
11-17-2007, 11:02 AM
I think that Frances the Mute is one of their best albums, but I do hope their new album will be good.
Handel
11-17-2007, 1:19 PM
I could list twenty bands but that seems so... non-representative so I will list 50 instead.
1 The Flower Kings
2 Symphony X
3 Spock's Beard
4 Venetian Snares
5 Pain of Salvation
6 Echolyn
7 Dream Theater
8 The Devin Townsend Band
9 Sabrepulse
10 Ayreon
11 Porcupine Tree
12 Unexpect
13 65daysofstatic
14 Strapping Young Lad
15 Gong
16 Mr. Bungle
17 The Mars Volta
18 Frédéric Chopin
19 Ulver
20 Black Bonzo
Much better.
Mmm... you're a good one...
Profane Methane
11-18-2007, 3:25 AM
1. The Eagles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. The Beatles
5. Queen
6. Pink Floyd
7. AC/DC
8. Deep Purple
9. The Rolling Stones
10. Blue Oyster Cult
11. Guns N' Roses
12. The Who
13. Lynyrd Skynyrd
14. Cream
15. Santana
16. Ozzy
17. Black Sabbath
18. Journey
19. The Kinks
20. Bon Jovi
All of your musical taste blows compared to mine. If you don't listen to the music I listen to, you are a faggot.
Generic crap. Bon Jovi makes me want to puke. THE EAGLES, I don't have to say much, the name denotes crap.
Chronon
11-18-2007, 7:19 AM
I think that Frances the Mute is one of their best albums, but I do hope their new album will be good.
I just got Amputechture, I've listened to it four times or so, and I think that five out of eight of the songs are totally completely awesome, the other three (tracks 1, 5, and 8) are a bit... not that great. Still, that's like fifty minutes of music, which is more than the average album. So, yeah, it's awesome. Their other two must also be great.
Ishabaal
11-18-2007, 7:23 AM
Well, If your not a fan of 1,5 or 8 I'm not sure you would like their other albums right away, but if you just give them a chance you'll love them.
Ishabaal
11-18-2007, 7:27 AM
1. The Eagles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. The Beatles
5. Queen
6. Pink Floyd
7. AC/DC
8. Deep Purple
9. The Rolling Stones
10. Blue Oyster Cult
11. Guns N' Roses
12. The Who
13. Lynyrd Skynyrd
14. Cream
15. Santana
16. Ozzy
17. Black Sabbath
18. Journey
19. The Kinks
20. Bon Jovi
You have an interesting mix of good bands, and horrible bands that shame the face of music with their existence. The bold being the good ones, you understand.
Chronon
11-18-2007, 7:37 AM
Well, If your not a fan of 1,5 or 8 I'm not sure you would like their other albums right away, but if you just give them a chance you'll love them.
I'm giving eight a chance right now. :)
I'll probably ask for their other two albums for Christmas.
Chrisso
11-18-2007, 1:40 PM
As to the dude above me, it seems like you just checked off every box on the CLASSIC ROCK BANDS THAT DUDES SHOULD KNOW ABOUT list and put them on your top twenty bands. "Hey, look! I have a bunch of classic rock bands on my list! Respect me for knowing about rock, please!" While in the end, it's just as bad as Fall Out Boy in terms of trend-following.
While I will admit that I listen to nothing but classic rock, I will also admit that I listen to some of the most obscure songs from these bands. Ever heard of Villanova Junction by Hendrix? Hey Hey What Can I Do by Led Zeppelin? What's Your Name (Little Girl) by Lynyrd Skynyrd? Didn't think so. Sure, lots of people listen to classic rock, but having nearly every album from each of these bands and loving every single second of them is hardly jumping on a bandwagon. Go listen to more Stairway to Heaven, douchebag.
Generic crap. Bon Jovi makes me want to puke. THE EAGLES, I don't have to say much, the name denotes crap.
I'll also admit that I'm not a big fan of Bon Jovi, that's why it's very low on the list. It was a filler band to make a top twenty list off of the top of my head. However, The Eagles pretty much pioneered southern rock along with Lynyrd Skynyrd. If you listen to any modern country rock, those guys drew 99% of their influence from those two bands. I just favor The Eagles over Skynyrd. Sorry if that sounds generic to you...
You have an interesting mix of good bands, and horrible bands that shame the face of music with their existence. The bold being the good ones, you understand.
Because The Kinks and Rolling Stones definitely weren't part of the British Invasion. There's a good reason why bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd succeeded in America; the doors were opened to them by the bands of the British Invasion. Oh, and the fact that you didn't boldify Deep Purple made me question whether you knew what the hell you were talking about from the moment you pressed Submit Reply.
Ever heard November Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine from Guns N' Roses? I thought so, because those are the last good rock songs that ever aired due to all the grunge bullshit you've heard on the radio for the last 17 years. If you respect Led Zeppelin at all, you would respect Guns N' Roses for temporarily bringing back that kind of great music.
However, I noticed you like Porcupine Tree. Is it their progressive side you like, or their heavy metal side which they are now aiming for? Because I saw them live on May 30th in Grand Rapids, Michigan and I preferred the stuff they played from their progressive days over that shit they called heavy metal off of their new album. They suck ass now, not unlike your taste in music.
muffin
11-18-2007, 1:59 PM
As to the dude above me, it seems like you just checked off every box on the CLASSIC ROCK BANDS THAT DUDES SHOULD KNOW ABOUT list and put them on your top twenty bands. "Hey, look! I have a bunch of classic rock bands on my list! Respect me for knowing about rock, please!" While in the end, it's just as bad as Fall Out Boy in terms of trend-following.
Assuming that someone's tastes in a currently popular band are due in any part to that band's popularity is just stupid music stereotyping. When it somes to classic rock, yeah, it is very doubtful that someone posting on this forum has liked the band since it started out/before it was high on the charts, anyway.
However, with a lot of the bands that are more popular right now (FOB, MCR, etc.), people automatically assume that you heard their hit song and jumped on the bandwagon when, in reality, you might have been a fan for a long time. I mean, what are you supposed to say? "Oh, this band I like has a popular song and they're getting famous now! I guess I don't like them anymore!"
If a person's musical taste is made up of only popular bands and nothing more obscure, that's one thing. And I'm not defending the classic rock kid because I agree with you in that case. But the whole popular band shunning is just dumb, because you can't assume that the fans are just following the trends.
Quadros
11-18-2007, 2:09 PM
1. The Eagles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. The Beatles
5. Queen
6. Pink Floyd
7. AC/DC
8. Deep Purple
9. The Rolling Stones
10. Blue Oyster Cult
11. Guns N' Roses
12. The Who
13. Lynyrd Skynyrd
14. Cream
15. Santana
16. Ozzy
17. Black Sabbath
18. Journey
19. The Kinks
20. Bon Jovi
All of your musical taste blows compared to mine. If you don't listen to the music I listen to, you are a faggot.
Oh hey Copyfag/CnGY
Chronon
11-18-2007, 2:16 PM
Since no one has really torn up mine, here it is again (with the Mars Volta added in and the New Pornographers knocked out of the list because I really just added them as an afterthought)
Arcade Fire
U2
Coldplay
The Beatles
The Mars Volta
The Decemberists
They Might Be Giants
The Flaming Lips
Modest Mouse
Damien Rice
Bruce Springsteen
Talking Heads
Sufjan Stevens
The Shins
The White Stripes
AFI
Muse
Radiohead
Death Cab For Cutie
Smashing Pumpkins
Handel
11-18-2007, 3:52 PM
While I will admit that I listen to nothing but classic rock, I will also admit that I listen to some of the most obscure songs from these bands. Ever heard of Villanova Junction by Hendrix? Hey Hey What Can I Do by Led Zeppelin? What's Your Name (Little Girl) by Lynyrd Skynyrd? Didn't think so. Sure, lots of people listen to classic rock, but having nearly every album from each of these bands and loving every single second of them is hardly jumping on a bandwagon. Go listen to more Stairway to Heaven, douchebag.
Listening to obscure songs does not make your musical taste irrefutably great. Popular songs are (for the most part) popular for a reason.
I'll also admit that I'm not a big fan of Bon Jovi, that's why it's very low on the list. It was a filler band to make a top twenty list off of the top of my head. However, The Eagles pretty much pioneered southern rock along with Lynyrd Skynyrd. If you listen to any modern country rock, those guys drew 99% of their influence from those two bands. I just favor The Eagles over Skynyrd. Sorry if that sounds generic to you...
Just because a band pioneered a genre doesn't make them good. Especially if that genre sucks, as is the case with southern/country rock.
Because The Kinks and Rolling Stones definitely weren't part of the British Invasion. There's a good reason why bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd succeeded in America; the doors were opened to them by the bands of the British Invasion. Oh, and the fact that you didn't boldify Deep Purple made me question whether you knew what the hell you were talking about from the moment you pressed Submit Reply.
Again, just because a band popularized a genre does not make them good.
Ever heard November Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine from Guns N' Roses? I thought so, because those are the last good rock songs that ever aired due to all the grunge bullshit you've heard on the radio for the last 17 years. If you respect Led Zeppelin at all, you would respect Guns N' Roses for temporarily bringing back that kind of great music.
GNR is about as far away from Led Zeppelin as you can get within the spectrum of rock. Led Zeppelin is more folk rock/classic metal, while GNR was just hair metal.
Ishabaal
11-18-2007, 5:30 PM
Because The Kinks and Rolling Stones definitely weren't part of the British Invasion. There's a good reason why bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd succeeded in America; the doors were opened to them by the bands of the British Invasion. Oh, and the fact that you didn't boldify Deep Purple made me question whether you knew what the hell you were talking about from the moment you pressed Submit Reply.
I meant to "boldify" Deep Purple sorry about that... and Pink Floyd is a great band... so is Led Zeppelin but again just because a band has created or become popular in a genre does not mean they are good(such as NSYNC, popular but crap).
Ever heard November Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine from Guns N' Roses? I thought so, because those are the last good rock songs that ever aired due to all the grunge bullshit you've heard on the radio for the last 17 years. If you respect Led Zeppelin at all, you would respect Guns N' Roses for temporarily bringing back that kind of great music.
I don't listen to the radio, point is moot. Besides, classic rock was invented for the radio... so again you lose.
While I will admit that I listen to nothing but classic rock, I will also admit that I listen to some of the most obscure songs from these bands. Ever heard of Villanova Junction by Hendrix? Hey Hey What Can I Do by Led Zeppelin? What's Your Name (Little Girl) by Lynyrd Skynyrd? Didn't think so. Sure, lots of people listen to classic rock, but having nearly every album from each of these bands and loving every single second of them is hardly jumping on a bandwagon. Go listen to more Stairway to Heaven, douchebag.
I shall answer this also, jut because. You assume you know more about the genre than anyone else, ever heard Accept, you must listen to The Who and Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Jethro Tull, Yes and a large number of other bands... never claim superiority on a genre of music since you most likely dont know half as much as someone else.
However, I noticed you like Porcupine Tree. Is it their progressive side you like, or their heavy metal side which they are now aiming for? Because I saw them live on May 30th in Grand Rapids, Michigan and I preferred the stuff they played from their progressive days over that shit they called heavy metal off of their new album. They suck ass now, not unlike your taste in music.
I like both sides of Porcupine Tree although I am more tuned to their prog. side. And another point the bands I posted are a horrible representation of my music tastes. I simply lsiten to too much to have that small of a list be representative.
Since no one has really torn up mine, here it is again (with the Mars Volta added in and the New Pornographers knocked out of the list because I really just added them as an afterthought)
Arcade Fire
U2
Coldplay
The Beatles
The Mars Volta
The Decemberists
They Might Be Giants
The Flaming Lips
Modest Mouse
Damien Rice
Bruce Springsteen
Talking Heads
Sufjan Stevens
The Shins
The White Stripes
AFI
Muse
Radiohead
Death Cab For Cutie
Smashing Pumpkins
This post is getting really long, I think I may have missed some artists since I went through your list so quickly but aside from a few, your tastes are horrible. I mean you listen to Volta and U2. I mean how can you get off a Volta album and listen to that kind of crap.
Handel
11-18-2007, 5:51 PM
Since no one has really torn up mine, here it is again (with the Mars Volta added in and the New Pornographers knocked out of the list because I really just added them as an afterthought)
Arcade Fire
U2
Coldplay
The Beatles
The Mars Volta
The Decemberists
They Might Be Giants
The Flaming Lips
Modest Mouse
Damien Rice
Bruce Springsteen
Talking Heads
Sufjan Stevens
The Shins
The White Stripes
AFI
Muse
Radiohead
Death Cab For Cutie
Smashing Pumpkins
The bold are bad, italicized are good.
Chronon
11-18-2007, 6:05 PM
I can easily understand why you would say that (except for Smashing Pumpkins). I mean, according to most music purists, U2 is overrated, Coldplay and Death Cab For Cutie are just wimpy men with pianos, Bruce Springsteen isn't really something they take seriously, and AFI are just part of this new emo trend that all of the kids are into. I don't see what your problem is with Smashing Pumpkins, but yeah, you're probably a music purist. :P
This post is getting really long, I think I may have missed some artists since I went through your list so quickly but aside from a few, your tastes are horrible. I mean you listen to Volta and U2. I mean how can you get off a Volta album and listen to that kind of crap.
Hey, at least you like Arcade Fire. :P
Anyway, I like The Mars Volta and U2 for completely different reasons. The Mars Volta I like because their sound is incredibly complex. You can listen to it many times and never fully grasp the size and complexity of their music. Their music is incredibly interesting, something you can really sink your teeth into. I like U2 because... well... it's harder to explain. I love their sound... a lot. I can't really describe why I like them so much, but it's for totally different reasons.
Handel
11-18-2007, 7:32 PM
I can easily understand why you would say that (except for Smashing Pumpkins). I mean, according to most music purists, U2 is overrated, Coldplay and Death Cab For Cutie are just wimpy men with pianos, Bruce Springsteen isn't really something they take seriously, and AFI are just part of this new emo trend that all of the kids are into. I don't see what your problem is with Smashing Pumpkins, but yeah, you're probably a music purist. :P
I'm not a music purist. Hell, I'm not even a music enthusiast. I'm just a dude who likes music. I don't like the Smashing Pumpkins because I think Billy Corgan's a whiny douche, but they have a few choice songs I can get down to (for example, 1979 is a great driving song).
Chronon
11-18-2007, 7:44 PM
Tonight, Tonight is my personal favorite.
Billy Corgan's voice is terrible and whiny, yeah, I know.
Profane Methane
11-19-2007, 1:47 AM
While I will admit that I listen to nothing but classic rock, I will also admit that I listen to some of the most obscure songs from these bands. Ever heard of Villanova Junction by Hendrix? Hey Hey What Can I Do by Led Zeppelin? What's Your Name (Little Girl) by Lynyrd Skynyrd? Didn't think so. Sure, lots of people listen to classic rock, but having nearly every album from each of these bands and loving every single second of them is hardly jumping on a bandwagon. Go listen to more Stairway to Heaven, douchebag.
I'll also admit that I'm not a big fan of Bon Jovi, that's why it's very low on the list. It was a filler band to make a top twenty list off of the top of my head. However, The Eagles pretty much pioneered southern rock along with Lynyrd Skynyrd. If you listen to any modern country rock, those guys drew 99% of their influence from those two bands. I just favor The Eagles over Skynyrd. Sorry if that sounds generic to you...
Because The Kinks and Rolling Stones definitely weren't part of the British Invasion. There's a good reason why bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd succeeded in America; the doors were opened to them by the bands of the British Invasion. Oh, and the fact that you didn't boldify Deep Purple made me question whether you knew what the hell you were talking about from the moment you pressed Submit Reply.
Ever heard November Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine from Guns N' Roses? I thought so, because those are the last good rock songs that ever aired due to all the grunge bullshit you've heard on the radio for the last 17 years. If you respect Led Zeppelin at all, you would respect Guns N' Roses for temporarily bringing back that kind of great music.
However, I noticed you like Porcupine Tree. Is it their progressive side you like, or their heavy metal side which they are now aiming for? Because I saw them live on May 30th in Grand Rapids, Michigan and I preferred the stuff they played from their progressive days over that shit they called heavy metal off of their new album. They suck ass now, not unlike your taste in music.
All the crap country rock bands, sure.
Chronon
11-19-2007, 4:53 PM
However, I noticed you like Porcupine Tree. Is it their progressive side you like, or their heavy metal side which they are now aiming for? Because I saw them live on May 30th in Grand Rapids, Michigan and I preferred the stuff they played from their progressive days over that shit they called heavy metal off of their new album. They suck ass now, not unlike your taste in music.
Dude, Fear of a Blank Planet is freaking awesome.
"The xbox... is a god to me. My finger on the switch my mother is a bitch my father gave up ever trying to talk to me."
Ishabaal
11-19-2007, 5:52 PM
Fear of a blank planet is not only awesome but still prog. as stated in the prog. archives, which is the official place for all prog. music.
Chronon
11-19-2007, 6:54 PM
I don't really know the difference.
Although, Fear of a Blank Planet seems more metal than prog to me... it doesn't progress all that much and has heavy guitars... but what do I know?
Daedalus66
11-20-2007, 6:55 AM
Hello!
Long time ninja, first time poster here, so be gentile. and gentle.
In a specific order;
1. Mahavishnu Orchestra
2. Kyuss
3. Dream Theater
4. Soft Machine
5. At the Drive-in
6. Metallica
7. Rush
8. The Tea Party
9. Return to Forever
10. Rage Against the Machine
11. Pink Floyd
12. Johnny Cash
13. The Shins
14. Rise Against
15. Massive Attack
16. The Decemberists
17. Portishead
18. Buckethead
19. Robotic Zai
20. The Mars Volta.
Enjoy.
Chronon
11-20-2007, 7:25 PM
20. The Mars Volta.
I sense a trend here... :|
And the Decemberists are awesome. So are the Shins. You have some pretty nice taste there.
Daedalus66
11-20-2007, 8:14 PM
Yep. I like AtD-I more than TMV though. Got all of TMV's albums, and have gotta say, Frances is definitely the best. Its when they struck a balance between 4 minute rock songs (Deloused), and 16 minute ambient guitar feedback (Amputechture). Or thats just my opinion anyway.
Chronon
11-20-2007, 8:21 PM
:0
I love Tetragrammaton! "In the end they just gagged me to make him come out..."
I also love Televators but not as much. "You should have seen... the curse that flew right by you.."
Daedalus66
11-20-2007, 8:32 PM
Or L' Via L' Viaquez;
L’ Via
Hija de Miranda
Tu Apellido se cambió
L’ Via
Sin Ojos me quieres dar
Una historia sin mi madre
Solo tengo que decirte
El dolor de noche dice
Solo se quedo el vestido
Le lave la sangre
L’ Via
No dejes de descansar
En la calle caminas
Quien te va a perseguir
L’ Via
Te quieren matar
Dientes de Machete
Cabezas de gallo .
Thats some meaningful stuff.
Chronon
11-20-2007, 8:35 PM
It is? I never looked up what it meant, but it's probably my second favorite TMV song after Tetragrammaton.
The only one I own is Amputechture, though.
K177135
11-20-2007, 8:50 PM
1. Vicious Alliance (http://www.myspace.com/viciousallianceebm)
2. Imperative Reaction (http://www.myspace.com/imperativereaction)
3. And One (http://www.myspace.com/andonefans)
4. Grendel (http://www.myspace.com/grendel)
5. Billy Joel
6. NamNamBulu (http://www.myspace.com/namnambuluswitzerland)
7. Syrian (http://www.myspace.com/syrian)
8. Spice Girls
9. Hanzel und Gretyl (http://www.myspace.com/hanzelundgretyl)
10. Hocico (http://www.myspace.com/hocico)
11. Tactical Sekt (http://www.myspace.com/uktacticalsekt)
12. Depeche Mode
13. Gary Numan
14. Icon of Coil (http://www.myspace.com/officialiconofcoil)
15. Joy Electric (http://www.myspace.com/joyelectric)
16. Fad Gadget (http://www.myspace.com/franktovey)
17. Billy Idol
18. Madonna
19. Assemblage 23 (http://www.myspace.com/officialassemblage23)
20. Solitary Experiments (http://www.myspace.com/solitaryexperiments)
TheHighwaySong
11-20-2007, 8:55 PM
Come to think of it, I think some of the best Metal comes from the people who just do it for the fun of it, and don't really have dark backgrounds. Like Cannibal Corpse, as opposed to Mayhem.
What does Corpsegrinder have to be depressed about?
Metal Angel
11-20-2007, 9:54 PM
The fact everyone calls him fat probably doesn't help. Neither does Alliance fags griefing him on WoW.
Tweek
11-20-2007, 10:30 PM
GISM
Bloc party
Anthrax
The Exploited
Sham 69
Cockney Rejects
Sonic Youth
Stone Temple Pilots
Mad Caddies
Beastie Boys
Aesop Rock
Big D and The Kids Table
Reel Big Fish
Cypress Hill
Flogging Molly
Dropkick Murphys
The Killers
Killdozer
The Cat Empire
Sublime
Pennywise
Rage Against The Machine
I like the above bands and then some.
Profane Methane
11-20-2007, 10:52 PM
GISM
Bloc party
Anthrax
The Exploited
Sham 69
Cockney Rejects
Sonic Youth
Stone Temple Pilots
Mad Caddies
Beastie Boys
Aesop Rock
Big D and The Kids Table
Reel Big Fish
Cypress Hill
Flogging Molly
Dropkick Murphys
The Killers
Killdozer
The Cat Empire
Sublime
Pennywise
Rage Against The Machine
I like the above bands and then some.
Your music list is pretty good (high lighted the ones I like). I thought I would never meet anyone on this forum who liked G.I.S.M. RATM can get repetitive but still I love them, and I'm going to see them live in January 08, I heard their live show was fantastic.
Ishabaal
11-21-2007, 7:08 AM
GISM
Bloc party
Anthrax
The Exploited
Sham 69
Cockney Rejects
Sonic Youth
Stone Temple Pilots
Mad Caddies
Beastie Boys
Aesop Rock
Big D and The Kids Table
Reel Big Fish
Cypress Hill
Flogging Molly
Dropkick Murphys
The Killers
Killdozer
The Cat Empire
Sublime
Pennywise
Rage Against The Machine
Really other than Aesop Rock, who I only really like because of their lyrics, so I can;t listen to them without the lyrics in front of me, your music tastes seem somewhat plain. Anthrax is good too.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 4:14 PM
GISM
Bloc party
Anthrax
The Exploited
Sham 69
Cockney Rejects
Sonic Youth
Stone Temple Pilots
Mad Caddies
Beastie Boys
Aesop Rock
Big D and The Kids Table
Reel Big Fish
Cypress Hill
Flogging Molly
Dropkick Murphys
The Killers
Killdozer
The Cat Empire
Sublime
Pennywise
Rage Against The Machine
I like the above bands and then some.
The only one of those bands that I listen to is Bloc Party (but sort of The Killers, Beastie Boys, and RATM).
I can't believe you don't like the Mars Volta like everyone else!
hoLLow TeaRs
11-21-2007, 4:24 PM
Alice Cooper
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Bullet for my Valentine
Chiodos
Dashboard Confessional
Incubus
As I Lay Dying
Jimmy Eat World
Madina Lake
Matchbook Romance
My Chemical Romance
Mayday Parade
The Offspring
Rammstein
Simple Plan
System of a Down
Thursday
Don't really like the above's taste in music at all, but I doubt anyone likes my kind of emo/hardcore music either.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 4:35 PM
Alice Cooper
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Bullet for my Valentine
Chiodos
Dashboard Confessional
Incubus
As I Lay Dying
Jimmy Eat World
Madina Lake
Matchbook Romance
My Chemical Romance
Mayday Parade
The Offspring
Rammstein
Simple Plan
System of a Down
Thursday
Don't really like the above's taste in music at all, but I doubt anyone likes my kind of emo/hardcore music either.
Know what? The reason we all don't like it is because we've moved past crappy emo and nu metal music. I bet all your friends dig this stuff too, right? Get some better friends. Basically all these bands suck hardcore.
You should start liking the Mars Volta like everyone else. :)
hoLLow TeaRs
11-21-2007, 4:45 PM
Why is it crappy? Because you have no open mind music and only like mainstream music because that's what you have been taught all your life? I suggest looking for a music you like and not something you are told to like.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 5:50 PM
Dude, wtf?
The music you listen to is way more mainstream than the music I listen to. :|
You must be assuming that I listen to Britney Spears and Fall Out Boy and stuff... which is just making a baseless assumption.
EDIT: Actually, you had evidence against it, because in my post I stated that you should listen to the Mars Volta, who are the opposite of mainstream and consumer oriented...
Handel
11-21-2007, 6:59 PM
Alice Cooper
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Bullet for my Valentine
Chiodos
Dashboard Confessional
Incubus
As I Lay Dying
Jimmy Eat World
Madina Lake
Matchbook Romance
My Chemical Romance
Mayday Parade
The Offspring
Rammstein
Simple Plan
System of a Down
Thursday
Don't really like the above's taste in music at all, but I doubt anyone likes my kind of emo/hardcore music either.
That's not hardcore. That's shitty emo.
And LOL @ you saying your taste isn't mainstream. I could give a shit whether or not what you listen to is popular, it's just funny as hell when you try to justify it as not.
All the bolded are mainstream bands.
Your taste in music sucks.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 7:46 PM
That's not hardcore. That's shitty emo.
And LOL @ you saying your taste isn't mainstream. I could give a shit whether or not what you listen to is popular, it's just funny as hell when you try to justify it as not.
All the bolded are mainstream bands.
Your taste in music sucks.
You said what I said but better...
I'd definitely say that Dashboard Confessional is a mainstream band, and it's a stretch, but Chiodos could be considered one too...
And yeah, man, your music is not hardcore... maybe it's hardcore to your grandparents, but it's not classified as hardcore. It's mostly just nu metal, which is even worse than the metal that Metal Angel listens to, and emo, which is really, really stupid.
Metal Angel
11-21-2007, 8:01 PM
I can't believe you don't like the Mars Volta like everyone else!
Yeah, because everyone is supposed to have the same taste in music, right?
I hate the Mars Volta btw. They are a terrible band, and I have no idea why anyone (even their own mothers) would like that sort of bland crap.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 8:27 PM
Yeah, because everyone is supposed to have the same taste in music, right?
I hate the Mars Volta btw. They are a terrible band, and I have no idea why anyone (even their own mothers) would like that sort of bland crap.
It was a joke. :)
About five people in a row had The Mars Volta on their list, then someone came who didn't have them on the list. Hence, I made a joke that I couldn't believe that the trend was broken.
I wouldn't use the world "bland" to describe the Mars Volta... if I didn't like them maybe "cacaphonous" or "overindulgent" or "so experimental, who do they think they're kidding" but bland is a word that most definitely does not suit them... I question whether you have ever listened to them.
Metal Angel
11-21-2007, 8:31 PM
I did. Several songs, infact, just to make sure I didn't like them.
And I was right. Compared to bands like Fantomas or Blotted Science they just don't have anything interesting for me.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 8:33 PM
They take some time getting into...
Wow, if you don't like them because you think that they're not interesting, then that pretty much eliminates 99.99 percent of all bands ever for you to like...
blltmssgy
11-21-2007, 8:44 PM
Chronon, pissed off suburban kids are not interesting. Which is what 99% of "alternative" (indie, emo, punk, etc.) bands are made up of.
Also if you have to acquire a taste for a band, you don't like them. You are just listening to them because your friends think they are cool, and you want to be "hip."
Chronon
11-21-2007, 8:59 PM
Your argument is completely messed up. Even if the members of the Mars Volta aren't interesting, their music definitely is. You know how sometimes you'll be listening to music and all of a sudden you really notice a certain aspect of say, the drumbeat, and you're like "wow, I never noticed that" and you start to notice more things about the song? There is so much like that to notice in each Mars Volta song, it's really interesting, because each time it's a different experience. At least that's how it is to me. The reason that the Mars Volta take a little bit of time getting into (I think I listened to their album five times before I started really enjoying it) is because of this. At first it seems like a bunch of noise, but then as you notice things it becomes great music. And for your last point, I know nobody in real life who has even heard of the Mars Volta.
If 99% of "alternative" music is made by pissed of suburban kids then what do you listen to? Metal? Metal is totally pissed off suburban kids, way more than say, indie is. Classic rock? It's the same way as today's music. Rap? Rap is not pissed off suburban kids, more like people from the ghetto trying to make money.
Your argument just falls apart.
blltmssgy
11-21-2007, 9:15 PM
Sorry for offending you so much. Go run back into your $600k house and cry into your Goochi designer bedsheets.
You want interesting, listen to the Grateful Dead, no other band has combined so many different genres together so perfectly as they have. They combined blues, bluegrass, folk, rock and drugs together into perfect harmony. It's a complete fusion of everything that was possible in the 1960s and it worked perfectly. You'll be sitting there in the middle of a 15 minute jam and think, wow, I never knew that was even possible to do on the bass. Or you'll just hear how well everything meshes together, Jerry and Bob switching solos, Mickey and Kreutzmann jamming on the drums, Phil off in his own little world, and the Godchauxs going at it, except you won't hear 7 separate people, you'll hear one piece of magical music. There will never be anything like the Grateful Dead. They are not only interesting, but also beyond description. Or how bout Jethro Tull? If you had never heard them before you would never believe that it was possible to mix prog rock and folk music together. Or Bob Dylan, he brought folk to the electric guitar. Or the jam bands of today who can go on for 15 minutes on jams that just leave you thinking wow.
And where the fuck do you live where no one has heard of the Mars Volta, they've been on fucking MTV.
Try listening to some innovative music, not so crap that you hear today by pissed of suburban kids. And no I don't listen to Metal or Classic Rock.
I listen to:
Blues: people singing from their heart, B.B. King, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, those are not pissed off suburban kids.
Prog rock and Jam: People playing music to have fun.
Folk: the white person's version of blues music
Various other hippie bands: People just having fun whilst they play.
Not pissed off suburban kids, not a single one.
Chronon
11-21-2007, 9:24 PM
The entire first half of your post is about how there are bands better than the Mars Volta. Of course there are, it's not as if they're the best band ever.
Blues: people singing from their heart, B.B. King, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, those are not pissed off suburban kids.
Prog rock and Jam: People playing music to have fun.
Folk: the white person's version of blues music
Various other hippie bands: People just having fun whilst they play.
Even emo people sing from their hearts, that doesn't make them great. I'm sure Cedric from the Mars Volta sings from his heart, with all those shrieking noises he makes. Prog rock is not just to have fun, what are you talking about? Prog is the most artistic genre of music, and fun and making artistic statements do not go hand in hand. Now yeah, Jam is sort of fun, but I'd rather have great music than music that makes the artist have fun. Anyhow, the Mars Volta are prog.
blltmssgy
11-21-2007, 9:36 PM
I would personally not consider the Mars Volta prog. Bands like Yes and Jethro Tull are prog, Mars Volta is not prog. I correct that, Mars Volta may be prog, but considering prog means progressive it can encompass a bunch of different genres and considering the prog I listen to is from the 60s and 70s it is going to be way different from the prog of today. Progressive essentially means pushing the boundaries.
Personally when I make art, whether it is writing, drawing, playing music, or whatever, I have fun with it. Why would you make art if you do not enjoy it. So for me having fun goes hand in hand with making artistic statements. For example, when I play my bass, I go beyond the set standards of notes and scales, and I play what comes to me. It is still music, and it is still artistic, and guess what? I have fun with it. To say bands like Yes and Jethro Tull did not have fun playing is really absentminded of you.
So it takes a while to like Mars Volta because you get a different experience each time you listen to them?
So that tells me that the first experiences you had with the band were negative ones, otherwise you would have liked them from the start. It is completely normal for a person to have different experiences from listening to music of a band, that is not unique to Mars Volta. When I first started to listen to music in around the 7th grade I had a CD or two of the Dead from my father, as I went through various stages of music that I thought I liked (yes Metal Angel I did grow out of it, but it was in middle school, and you yourself said that is before one can be held responsible for their music tastes), but with all of those bands I used to like, I still like the Dead. I like them so much I have around 450 songs of theirs, and believe me (which I doubt you will) that is not much for a Dead fan. I have a friend who owns over 1000, but that's besides the point. I didn't need to get accustomed to the Grateful Dead or really any of the bands that I like, the ones I needed to get accustomed to I realized, in time, that I didn't really ever like them to begin with, and you will probably come to this realization about Mars Volta.
And to fully answer your question about what bands I listen to, I have 1091 songs encompassing 4.4 days in iTunes and these artists:
The Aggrolites (reggae)
The Allman Brothers Band (blues rock/jam)
B.B. King (blues)
The Band (folk rock)
The Beatles (pop rock/psychedelic rock/blues rock)
Bob Dylan (blues/folk)
Bob Marley & The Wailers (reggae)
Creedence Clearwater Revival (pop-ish blues-ish rock)
Disco Biscuits (prog/jam)
Dispatch (dunno how to describe)
The Doors (rock)
E.L.O. (happy rock)
Eric Clapton (blues/rock)
Grateful Dead (grateful dead)
Howlin' Wolf (blues)
Jefferson Airplane (hippie)
Jethro Tull (folk/blues/prog)
Jimi Hendrix (hendrix)
Jimmy Cliff (reggae)
Moe. (jam)
The Moody Blues (hippie)
Muddy Waters (blues)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (hippie)
Robert Cray Band (blues)
Yes (prog)
Souldrinker
11-22-2007, 1:57 AM
Alice Cooper
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Bullet for my Valentine
Chiodos
Dashboard Confessional
Incubus
As I Lay Dying
Jimmy Eat World
Madina Lake
Matchbook Romance
My Chemical Romance
Mayday Parade
The Offspring
Rammstein
Simple Plan
System of a Down
Thursday
Don't really like the above's taste in music at all, but I doubt anyone likes my kind of emo/hardcore music either.
Apart from Bon Jovi and Alice Cooper, that is one of the worst band lists I have ever seen. Crappy, trendy, generic emo crap mostly, and there is not a thing on there that comes even close to being hard, let alone hardcore.
You're a try-hard, trendy little teenage emo faggot, who has almost ZERO appreciation for real music (apart from Bon Jovi and Alice Cooper :fmita: )
exetra
11-22-2007, 5:18 AM
The Aggrolites (reggae)
The Allman Brothers Band (blues rock/jam)
B.B. King (blues)
The Band (folk rock)
The Beatles (pop rock/psychedelic rock/blues rock)
Bob Dylan (blues/folk)
Bob Marley & The Wailers (reggae)
Creedence Clearwater Revival (pop-ish blues-ish rock)
Disco Biscuits (prog/jam)
Dispatch (dunno how to describe)
The Doors (rock)
E.L.O. (happy rock)
Eric Clapton (blues/rock)
Grateful Dead (grateful dead)
Howlin' Wolf (blues)
Jefferson Airplane (hippie)
Jethro Tull (folk/blues/prog)
Jimi Hendrix (hendrix)
Jimmy Cliff (reggae)
Moe. (jam)
The Moody Blues (hippie)
Muddy Waters (blues)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (hippie)
Robert Cray Band (blues)
Yes (prog)
BB king needs to learn how to play some chords before he dies. The beatles influenced a million shitty bands and subsequently weren't very good themselves. Bob Dylan. Dickpiss. The Doors. A band where 100% of its members sound like shit (see also: The Beatles). Eric Clapton. Post 461 = Snore. Jethro Tull. Snore + tight wearing jackass. Hendrix was not good. Not at all. Rick Wakeman should stop wearing a cape.
Mine:
1. Aphex Twin
2. Basement Jaxx
3. The Dillinger Escape Plan
4. Faithless
5. Fates Warning
6. The Flower Kings
7. Infusion
8. Junior Senior
9. The Knife
10. Kraftwerk
11. Katalyst
12. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Meshuggah
14. Portishead
15. The Prodigy
16. Regurgitator
17. Scott Brown
18. Sonicanimation
19. Squarepusher
20. Throbbing Gristle
Chronon
11-22-2007, 7:09 AM
1. Aphex Twin
2. Basement Jaxx
3. The Dillinger Escape Plan
4. Faithless
5. Fates Warning
6. The Flower Kings
7. Infusion
8. Junior Senior
9. The Knife
10. Kraftwerk
11. Katalyst
12. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Meshuggah
14. Portishead
15. The Prodigy
16. Regurgitator
17. Scott Brown
18. Sonicanimation
19. Squarepusher
20. Throbbing Gristle
Your music: bleep bloop blip blableep blooblip bleebo bleep bloop
You: OMG IT'S AMAZING
Personally when I make art, whether it is writing, drawing, playing music, or whatever, I have fun with it. Why would you make art if you do not enjoy it. So for me having fun goes hand in hand with making artistic statements. For example, when I play my bass, I go beyond the set standards of notes and scales, and I play what comes to me. It is still music, and it is still artistic, and guess what? I have fun with it. To say bands like Yes and Jethro Tull did not have fun playing is really absentminded of you.
I'm sure that they did have fun playing, but what about say, Joy Division? I mean, they're one of the most influential bands of all time, but their frontman was really depressed. You don't have to have fun playing your music to be good. Although you have to make the kind of music you like, and not the kind of music the public wants to be good, in my opinion.
So it takes a while to like Mars Volta because you get a different experience each time you listen to them?
So that tells me that the first experiences you had with the band were negative ones, otherwise you would have liked them from the start.
The first time I heard L'Via L'Viaquez I loved it. Or well, that's really not true. All great songs, it seems, you listen to them once, you think "that wasn't so great" but then for some reason you listen to it again and you realize you love it. All of my favorite songs I have had an experience like that with, and I had that experience with L'Via L'Viaquez. Then I heard Vermicide, and I loved that too. Then I heard Viscera Eyes, and at first I didn't like it that much, but then I heard it two more times and I loved it. Then I listened to a couple more of their songs, loved all of them, then I bought the album Amputechture. The first time I heard it, I just liked Vermicide and Viscera Eyes. Then, when I kept listening to it, I started loving every song.
So, really, my first experiences with the band were positive.
(yes Metal Angel I did grow out of it, but it was in middle school, and you yourself said that is before one can be held responsible for their music tastes)
I'm in middle school. :|
And to fully answer your question about what bands I listen to, I have 1091 songs encompassing 4.4 days in iTunes and these artists:
The Aggrolites (reggae)
The Allman Brothers Band (blues rock/jam)
B.B. King (blues)
The Band (folk rock)
The Beatles (pop rock/psychedelic rock/blues rock)
Bob Dylan (blues/folk)
Bob Marley & The Wailers (reggae)
Creedence Clearwater Revival (pop-ish blues-ish rock)
Disco Biscuits (prog/jam)
Dispatch (dunno how to describe)
The Doors (rock)
E.L.O. (happy rock)
Eric Clapton (blues/rock)
Grateful Dead (grateful dead)
Howlin' Wolf (blues)
Jefferson Airplane (hippie)
Jethro Tull (folk/blues/prog)
Jimi Hendrix (hendrix)
Jimmy Cliff (reggae)
Moe. (jam)
The Moody Blues (hippie)
Muddy Waters (blues)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (hippie)
Robert Cray Band (blues)
Yes (prog)
That's about how much I have.
So you just listen to older stuff, I guess? As a youth of today, I'm kind of out of touch with older music. I mean, I appreciate it a lot, but I don't listen to it all that much. Most of what I listen to is recent, except for the Beatles and Talking Heads. But yeah, that's cool, at least you don't listen to emo and nu metal and stuff.
Daedalus66
11-22-2007, 8:34 AM
The Aggrolites (reggae)
The Allman Brothers Band (blues rock/jam)
B.B. King (blues)
The Band (folk rock)
The Beatles (pop rock/psychedelic rock/blues rock)
Bob Dylan (blues/folk)
Bob Marley & The Wailers (reggae)
Creedence Clearwater Revival (pop-ish blues-ish rock)
Disco Biscuits (prog/jam)
Dispatch (dunno how to describe)
The Doors (rock)
E.L.O. (happy rock)
Eric Clapton (blues/rock)
Grateful Dead (grateful dead)
Howlin' Wolf (blues)
Jefferson Airplane (hippie)
Jethro Tull (folk/blues/prog)
Jimi Hendrix (hendrix)
Jimmy Cliff (reggae)
Moe. (jam)
The Moody Blues (hippie)
Muddy Waters (blues)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (hippie)
Robert Cray Band (blues)
Yes (prog)
Dude, you're so adamant that noone else listens to your music that you had to put the genre after each band? Because noone knows that Jethro Tull are folk/blues/prog. Believe me, you're not that special for listening to old music. You're trying so hard to be "out there" with your taste in music.
hoLLow TeaRs
11-22-2007, 8:47 AM
Apart from Bon Jovi and Alice Cooper, that is one of the worst band lists I have ever seen. Crappy, trendy, generic emo crap mostly, and there is not a thing on there that comes even close to being hard, let alone hardcore.
You're a try-hard, trendy little teenage emo faggot, who has almost ZERO appreciation for real music (apart from Bon Jovi and Alice Cooper :fmita: )
Real music being the music you consider good but is shitty music to me. Gotcha!
Ishabaal
11-22-2007, 8:57 AM
The Aggrolites (reggae)
The Allman Brothers Band (blues rock/jam)
B.B. King (blues)
The Band (folk rock)
The Beatles (pop rock/psychedelic rock/blues rock)
Bob Dylan (blues/folk)
Bob Marley & The Wailers (reggae)
Creedence Clearwater Revival (pop-ish blues-ish rock)
Disco Biscuits (prog/jam)
Dispatch (dunno how to describe)
The Doors (rock)
E.L.O. (happy rock)
Eric Clapton (blues/rock)
Grateful Dead (grateful dead)
Howlin' Wolf (blues)
Jefferson Airplane (hippie)
Jethro Tull (folk/blues/prog)
Jimi Hendrix (hendrix)
Jimmy Cliff (reggae)
Moe. (jam)
The Moody Blues (hippie)
Muddy Waters (blues)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (hippie)
Robert Cray Band (blues)
Yes (prog)
Dispatch is an indie-ish, folk-ish band.
The bold are good bands. Some of them I don't feel like researching right now so I'll leave them off. For the most part you have a mediocre taste in music. You do come off as a person with a God Complex though, have fun with that.
And to fully answer your question about what bands I listen to, I have 1091 songs encompassing 4.4 days in iTunes and these artists:
You need more music, if you don't already know about progarchives.com I suggest you go there for advice on expanding both your tastes and playlist. For the record I have 14305 and about 51 days of music.
1. Aphex Twin
2. Basement Jaxx
3. The Dillinger Escape Plan
4. Faithless
5. Fates Warning
6. The Flower Kings
7. Infusion
8. Junior Senior
9. The Knife
10. Kraftwerk
11. Katalyst
12. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Meshuggah
14. Portishead
15. The Prodigy
16. Regurgitator
17. Scott Brown
18. Sonicanimation
19. Squarepusher
20. Throbbing Gristle
... wow, thats an amazing taste in music but it is very narrow in its scope. Kudos. I won't take the time to research some of the bands there I don't know, but I can guess most of their genres anyway.
Alice Cooper
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Bullet for my Valentine
Chiodos
Dashboard Confessional
Incubus
As I Lay Dying
Jimmy Eat World
Madina Lake
Matchbook Romance
My Chemical Romance
Mayday Parade
The Offspring
Rammstein
Simple Plan
System of a Down
Thursday
You like catchy songs and have a very small attention span. You wouldn't enjoy most bands because your friends don't and you need their opinion on everything you do. At least you don't listen to rap. Right?
Chronon
11-22-2007, 9:44 AM
You need more music, if you don't already know about progarchives.com I suggest you go there for advice on expanding both your tastes and playlist. For the record I have 14305 and about 51 days of music.
Maybe he's like me (he has about the same amount of music as me) and wants to get more music, but doesn't have the money... I spend all of my money on music, and so I am expanding my iTunes, but at this rate it will take me thirty years to get as much music as you...
Real music being the music you consider good but is shitty music to me. Gotcha!
All music is real music (you could make a case for rap not being real music, actually, but that's beside the point). However, your music is boring, stupid, bad, and pointless. Bon Jovi is also terrible, so don't listen to this dude.
hoLLow TeaRs
11-22-2007, 9:51 AM
I must say, this forum is very.. I don't know the word, but the mentality that "You must think like us"
No idea how you can say bon jovi is terrible.. lol, the music I like, is the music I chose to like, not what society and the radio tells me to like.
Ishabaal
11-22-2007, 10:19 AM
But the society and radio does tell you to like Bon Jovi, so I don't see your point.
Souldrinker
11-22-2007, 10:45 AM
Real music being the music you consider good but is shitty music to me. Gotcha!
No, real music being stuff that is not cliche, repetitive and generic mush spewed out for consumption by emo faggot teenagers. The bands you listed largely lack talent and any shred of originality. They are terrible and unimaginative musicians. They are just clones of the trendy emo culture and little else.
It is also becoming increasingly obvious that you yourself have nothing in the way of substance or originality.
ArsonistsGetAllTheGirls
11-22-2007, 11:49 AM
As I Lay Dying,
Bring Me The Horizon,
As Blood Runs Black,
Emmure,
Chiodos,
Arsonist Get All The Girls,
Thrice,
The Human Abstract,
All That Remains,
Alesana,
Second Thief,
Norma Jean,
Haste The Day,
Suicide Silence,
Ultra Ultra Mega,
Heroshima,
Every Time I Die,
Bullet For My Valentine,
Annotations Of An Autopsy
1000 Times Repent
I Killed The Prom Queen
Maylene and the sons of disaster,
The Architechs,
The Number 12 Looks Like You,
Beneath The Sky,
Underneath The Gun,
Impending Doom,
and umm...
With Blood Comes Cleansing.
Let the insults flow.
Ishabaal
11-22-2007, 12:26 PM
As I Lay Dying,
Bring Me The Horizon,
As Blood Runs Black,
Emmure,
Chiodos,
Arsonist Get All The Girls,
Thrice,
The Human Abstract,
All That Remains,
Alesana,
Second Thief,
Norma Jean,
Haste The Day,
Suicide Silence,
Ultra Ultra Mega,
Heroshima,
Every Time I Die,
Bullet For My Valentine,
Annotations Of An Autopsy
1000 Times Repent
I Killed The Prom Queen
Maylene and the sons of disaster,
The Architechs,
The Number 12 Looks Like You,
Beneath The Sky,
Underneath The Gun,
Impending Doom,
and umm...
With Blood Comes Cleansing.
I didn't bother looking up every band on that list but must of it seems like hardcore or post-hardcore or metal-core or some amalgam of those genres. Right? I don't like any of those bands. I do like some "hardcore-ish" bands in that style like fall of troy, so I won't destroy you completely, but most of those bands seem like they would lack the instrumentation to back up their vocal work. You could use a bit more variety in your tastes though.
hoLLow TeaRs
11-22-2007, 5:34 PM
I didn't bother looking up every band on that list but must of it seems like hardcore or post-hardcore or metal-core or some amalgam of those genres. Right? I don't like any of those bands. I do like some "hardcore-ish" bands in that style like fall of troy, so I won't destroy you completely, but most of those bands seem like they would lack the instrumentation to back up their vocal work. You could use a bit more variety in your tastes though.
You can't have your own taste in music on this forum in other words. Make sure you listen to what they say to or else you won't be accepted.
Ishabaal
11-22-2007, 5:55 PM
You can't have your own taste in music on this forum in other words. Make sure you listen to what they say to or else you won't be accepted.
You would have to be pretty weak-minded to change your music tastes based on what some random guy on the internet says. If you truly think that then you really are a person who cannot function without the input of others, and that is very sad. Just because he has different music tastes doesn't mean I hate him with a unbridled passion, he simply likes different music. Forums are for fun you can't take what anyone says to seriously, *cough*rob*cough, so chill out man. Although you have to admit your name is a little emo, not the good kind either.
TheHighwaySong
11-22-2007, 6:32 PM
As I Lay Dying,
Bring Me The Horizon,
As Blood Runs Black,
Emmure,
Chiodos,
Arsonist Get All The Girls,
Thrice,
The Human Abstract,
All That Remains,
Alesana,
Second Thief,
Norma Jean,
Haste The Day,
Suicide Silence,
Ultra Ultra Mega,
Heroshima,
Every Time I Die,
Bullet For My Valentine,
Annotations Of An Autopsy
1000 Times Repent
I Killed The Prom Queen
Maylene and the sons of disaster,
The Architechs,
The Number 12 Looks Like You,
Beneath The Sky,
Underneath The Gun,
Impending Doom,
and umm...
With Blood Comes Cleansing.
Let the insults flow.
Congratulations in making a list where all the bands sound exactly the same. And like shit.
I'll give you I Killed the Prom Queen and to an extent Norma Jean, everything else is crybaby crap.
Anyone who said they like System of a Down, you do not exist to me if your first exposure to them was after BYOB.
Handel
11-22-2007, 7:42 PM
As I Lay Dying,
Bring Me The Horizon,
As Blood Runs Black,
Emmure,
Chiodos,
Arsonist Get All The Girls,
Thrice,
The Human Abstract,
All That Remains,
Alesana,
Second Thief,
Norma Jean,
Haste The Day,
Suicide Silence,
Ultra Ultra Mega,
Heroshima,
Every Time I Die,
Bullet For My Valentine,
Annotations Of An Autopsy
1000 Times Repent
I Killed The Prom Queen
Maylene and the sons of disaster,
The Architechs,
The Number 12 Looks Like You,
Beneath The Sky,
Underneath The Gun,
Impending Doom,
and umm...
With Blood Comes Cleansing.
Let the insults flow.
SO MUCH ANGST.
You can't have your own taste in music on this forum in other words. Make sure you listen to what they say to or else you won't be accepted.
Hi, look at the thread title. That's what this fucking discussion is about. If you take it to heart, you truly are the weak-minded trend-following cuntwaggle your music list describes you as.
exetra
11-22-2007, 7:51 PM
Your music: bleep bloop blip blableep blooblip bleebo bleep bloop
You: OMG IT'S AMAZING
Hahaha, nicely put :)
Chronon
11-22-2007, 8:14 PM
Thanks. :)
SO MUCH ANGST.
Ha, nice one there too.
ArsonistsGetAllTheGirls
11-22-2007, 8:19 PM
Congratulations in making a list where all the bands sound exactly the same. And like shit.
I'll give you I Killed the Prom Queen and to an extent Norma Jean, everything else is crybaby crap.
Anyone who said they like System of a Down, you do not exist to me if your first exposure to them was after BYOB.
Are you telling me Alesana, and Annotations of an Autopsy sound the same?
Or Thrice and Chiodos sound like Bring Me the Horizon?
If you cant tell the difference that's your problem.
I also doubt you have listened to half of it.
so you realy cant say it sounds the same.
Ishabaal
11-22-2007, 8:22 PM
Are you telling me Alesana, and Annotations of an Autopsy sound the same?
Or Thrice and Chiodos sound like Bring Me the Horizon?
If you cant tell the difference that's your problem.
I also doubt you have listened to half of it.
so you realy cant say it sounds the same.
Although not an outright fan of the genre, he has a point all bands no matter how close have subtle differences that separate the good, the bad, and the horrible. Some bands might have a more complex instrumentation, while others have a stronger vocal focus. Although there are many bands who have such subtle differences they might as well be the same band.
TheHighwaySong
11-22-2007, 9:43 PM
Every Number 12 song sounds like it's a recording of them doing sound check. Maybe people are into that, those people are probably deaf.
Metal Angel
11-22-2007, 10:24 PM
(yes Metal Angel I did grow out of it, but it was in middle school, and you yourself said that is before one can be held responsible for their music tastes)
It's true. Anyone who listened to Metal and is less then 16 tends to be a scene kid just looking for acceptance.
Not always though. But 99% of the time. They tend to 'grow out' of it and move on to emo music pretty quickly. Not that they really listened to proper Metal in the first place, but oh well.
I'm going to post a new list for you to all galp at now.
Death Metal
Aeon (satanic)
Amon Amarth (melodic)
Arch Enemy (melodic)
Behemoth (blackened)
Blotted Science (instrumental/technical/avant garde)
Bolt Thrower
Cannibal Corpse
Death
Deicide (satanic)
Gorguts (technical/avant garde)
Meshuggah (technical)
Monstrosity
Mortician
Nile (technical)
Origin (technical)
Grind
Abysmal Torment
Amputated
Cephalic Carnage
Clieater
Cock and Ball Torture
Corpsefucking Art
Crepitation
Devourment
Disgorge (MEX)
Disgorge (US)
Ingested
Insect Warfare
GUT
Kastrated
Prostitute Disfigurement
Putrid Pile
Rompeprop
Skinless
The Berzerker
Waco Jesus
WORMED
Black Metal
Burzum
Darkthrone
Emperor
Enslaved
Gorgoroth
Mayhem
Summoning
Folk Metal
Fintroll
Turisas
Doom Metal
Candlemass
Catheral
Khanate (drone)
Sunn O))) (drone)
Swallow The Sun
Thrash
Slayer
Testament
Other
Fantômas
Iron Maiden
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Rammstein
Rob/White Zombie
System Of A Down
Funker Vogt
...yeah, that'll do.
ArsonistsGetAllTheGirls
11-22-2007, 10:31 PM
I don't like a single one of those bands. but they are better than most tof the stuff people have been putting up. i guess canniball corpse is ok. But i've listened to metal for atleast 5 years, or atleast what i consider metal.
TheHighwaySong
11-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Another excellent list MA! I'm going to be seeing Amon Amarth this Saturday with Himsa and Sonic Syndicate (I don't really care for the latter two.) I was really looking forward to seeing Decapitated, but that won't be happening anymore after Vitek's incident =/
and what do you consider Metal? >>
ArsonistsGetAllTheGirls
11-22-2007, 11:34 PM
My ultimate list...
the aracia strain
all shall perish
all that remains
alesana
the almost
alexisonfire
alove for enemies
animosity
annotations of an autopsy
antagonist
the agonist
as blood runs black
as cities burn
as i lay dying
at the throne of judgement
arsonists get all the girls
august burns red
beloved
beneath the sky
between the buried and me
black dahlia murder
blessed by a broken heart
bless the fall
bloodlined calligraphy
bring me the horizon
bullet for my valentine
the chariot
chiodos
confide
david crowder band
dead poetic
demon hunter
destroy the runner
the devil wears prada
drop dead gorgeous
emarosa
emery
emmure
escape the fate
every time i die
the faceless
faith in the fallen
gwen stacy
haste the day
he is legend
heavyheavylowlow
hillsong
i killed the prom queen
impending doom
imperial
inhale/exhale
it dies today
job for a cowboy (old stuff)
kids in the way
knights of the abyss
leeland
life in your way
maylene and the sons of disaster
mortal treason
mychildren mybride
norma jean
pillar
protest the hero
rise against
robbie seay band
rush of fools
saosin
the showdown
scary kids, scaring kids
second theif
stick to your guns
still remains
thrice
a thousand times repent
through the eyes of the dead
twelve gauge valentine
ultra ultra mega
underneath the gun
underoath
walls of jericho
with blood comes cleansing
with faith or flames
I dont care who you are, there is variety there.
TheHighwaySong
11-22-2007, 11:45 PM
Job for a Cowboy is as heavy as it gets in your list. Everything else doesn't even compare to Metal. Not even Metalcore.
Profane Methane
11-23-2007, 1:23 AM
My ultimate list...
the aracia strain
all shall perish
all that remains
alesana
the almost
alexisonfire
alove for enemies
animosity
annotations of an autopsy
antagonist
the agonist
as blood runs black
as cities burn
as i lay dying
at the throne of judgement
arsonists get all the girls
august burns red
beloved
beneath the sky
between the buried and me
black dahlia murder
blessed by a broken heart
bless the fall
bloodlined calligraphy
bring me the horizon
bullet for my valentine
the chariot
chiodos
confide
david crowder band
dead poetic
demon hunter
destroy the runner
the devil wears prada
drop dead gorgeous
emarosa
emery
emmure
escape the fate
every time i die
the faceless
faith in the fallen
gwen stacy
haste the day
he is legend
heavyheavylowlow
hillsong
i killed the prom queen
impending doom
imperial
inhale/exhale
it dies today
job for a cowboy (old stuff)
kids in the way
knights of the abyss
leeland
life in your way
maylene and the sons of disaster
mortal treason
mychildren mybride
norma jean
pillar
protest the hero
rise against
robbie seay band
rush of fools
saosin
the showdown
scary kids, scaring kids
second theif
stick to your guns
still remains
thrice
a thousand times repent
through the eyes of the dead
twelve gauge valentine
ultra ultra mega
underneath the gun
underoath
walls of jericho
with blood comes cleansing
with faith or flames
I dont care who you are, there is variety there.
I read a bit of it, you have crap taste in music from what I could tell and did you have to make it so long?
There really isn't that much variety.
Heroin Hero
11-23-2007, 1:38 AM
My list: Flame Accordingly
Comeback Kid
Job For a Cowboy
Haste the Day
Red Hot Chili Peppers
AFI(before you say somethign about bandwagoning, I've been listening to them since Black Sails in the Sunset)
Against Me!
The Aquabats!
Audioslave
Tom Petty
The Automatic
Ben Folds
Bird 3 (may not be on myspace, but theyre a band, watch Van Wilder, it's when he runs to his finals)
Bloc Party
Counting Crows
Daft Punk
Pendulum
Defiance, Ohio
Mischief Brew/Erik Petersen
Dropkick Murphys
The Tossers
Foo Fighters
HORSE the Band
Incubus
Mando Diao
Killswitch Engage
Matisyahu
Muse
Nightwish
Sonata Arctica
The Police
The Transplants
Andrew WK
The Real Mckenzies
Rx Bandits
Social Distortion
Sparta
Street Dogs
Streetlight Manifesto
Reel Big Fish
Anyways, Arsonist...
where to begin
granted you do have some good heavy stuffo n there like The Acacia Strain, Job, Norma Jean, and The Chariot, you taint the list with shitty bands like Chiodos, Bullet for My Valentine, Scary kids Scaring Kids, and Maylene.
Personally, anyone who listens to Chiodos or Bullet for my Valentine should go kill themselves because those shitty mainsteam emocore bands need to OD or something because they are destroying music. But without them where would scene kids be? Probably following some other shitty bands who think they are hardcore like Atreyu (which I'm surprised you did not include).
Don't think I'm pulling shit out of my ass because I have listened to almost all of those bands, so I have experience.
Maylene sucked ath the show I went to (only to see Haste the Day while they were touring with them and From Autumn to Ashes, which are another shitty band).
It seems to me that you like any band that screams no matter how shitty they are at screaming or how badly their lyrics are. But you probably think you're cool because you listen to everything "hardcore." If you shortened your list to include only Mortal Treason, Haste the Day, Job For a Cowboy, and the other few bands who have a good screamer instead of that hawthorne heights-esque forced screamo shit, I would have nothing to say.
You disappoint me because this is a classic example of where quality is much better than quantity.
I wish victory records would stop signing such shitty and worthless bands such as Emmure, Four Letter Lie, Beneath the Sky, and countless other shitty bands so that music is not ruined.
Screamo and emocore bands are like China. There's getting to be so many of them in one place, it's near time to start a genocide. (P.S. that may be a little racist, but it's a fitting metaphor).
IN A NUTSHELL, PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO ANYTHING THAT SCREAMS AND PICK UP AN ACTUAL EAR FOR MUSIC RATHER THAN GRABBING ALL THAT YOU CAN CAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THOSE DOUCHES WHO TALKS ABOUT UNKNOWN BANDS ALL THE TIME CAUSE THEY THINK THE MORE OBSCURE BANDS THEY KNOW, THE COOLER THEY ARE.
There is a reason some bands are mainstream, it's because they're good.
Unlike you're shitty MTV whores like FallOut Boy and MCR who have so many fans because brain-dead sluts think their cool if they listen to bands that are extremely popular. THEIR MUSIC SUCKS, YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS, LISTENING TO A BAND LIKE MCR OR SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE YOU COOL, IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A DOUCHE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE A MUSIC TASTE INSTEAD OF WHAT PEERS AND MTV SHIT DOWN YOURE THROATS.
Ok I'm done
Hopefully who ever reads this learns something
and hopefully they change their godless ways.
<3
Souldrinker
11-23-2007, 1:50 AM
Hi, look at the thread title. That's what this fucking discussion is about. If you take it to heart, you truly are the weak-minded trend-following cuntwaggle your music list describes you as.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Well done.
and what do you consider Metal? >>
Definitely not Amon Amarth. They're number 1 on the scene-kid poser list, having taken the place from Cradle of Merchandise and currently having their title threatened by Trivium.
And MA, half of what you posted is utter crap, half is real metal. So you slide by with a marginal pass :)
Metal Angel
11-23-2007, 2:03 AM
It's all personal taste. I'm a mix between serious Metal and non-serious Grind.
And I disagree that Amon Amarth is a bad or non-Metal band. Sure, maybe they get more attention then they should, but that's the fans' fault, not theirs. That's like judging Skinless on their music videos.
Heroin Hero
11-23-2007, 2:08 AM
Amon Amarth: Because naming yourself after a place in Lord of the Rings is METAL!
If you want melodic metal, it's all about Nightwish. (before new skank who ruined the band. Back when Tarja was singer.)
Flame Nightwish for fucks sake, somebody?
(even though they are one of the few metal bands I like)
Demoir
11-23-2007, 2:08 AM
Metal Angel, I've actually heard of Turisas, they kick arse. I also heard by Death on Pandora which wasn't bad, but all those black metal bands (with the exception of Emperor) suck.
CheesePlease
11-23-2007, 2:44 AM
I'm curious to find out why everyone dislikes like emo music and what actually makes you go 'zomg emo it sux'. Is it it's content? The instruments? The vocals? The way the band members look?
I mean sure, there are bands like Hawthorne Heights who milk the genre for all it's got and the end result is pretty fucking terrible. Most of the emo genre is terrible, but there are a few nuggets of gold in there that are able to convey the 'emo' emotions and still make an album worth listening too. Sadly those bands seem to go undiscovered and somehow the shitty ones that only play the music because it's 'in' break out and become a representation for an entire genre of music.
It annoys me how some of the people I find today are all 'METAL METAL ONLY METAL EVERYTHING ELSE IS FOR FAGGOTS METAL METAL', just in an attempt to jump on a bandwagon and make themselves look 'cool' in front of their metal head friends. I like people who have an open mind when it comes to music, and will at least give something a try before they criticize and call it 'shit'. You might even find something you like.
Emo music sucks beacuse it took punks social commentary and turned it into slf pitying bullshit. Though admittedly there is some emo that's good to listen to, when they aren't singing about the pain of existing.
Metal Angel
11-23-2007, 3:21 AM
I'm curious to find out why everyone dislikes like emo music and what actually makes you go 'zomg emo it sux'. Is it it's content? The instruments? The vocals? The way the band members look?
That sounds about right. The lyrics don't give me a stonker either.
It annoys me how some of the people I find today are all 'METAL METAL ONLY METAL EVERYTHING ELSE IS FOR FAGGOTS METAL METAL', just in an attempt to jump on a bandwagon and make themselves look 'cool' in front of their metal head friends.
There's always going to be some who are like that. Personally I don't like to limit my tastes to any particular genre or subgenre (though admittedly my list may contradict that statement) and to taste other genres from time to time. Really, I only listen to a handful of bands from each subgenre (as in, Technical Death Metal, Brutal Death Metal, etc rather then the whole 'Death Metal' genre as a whole). I even listen to non-Metal music from time to time.
But to me, Metal is the biggest musicial influence I have. And it's a very strong influence that can make all others seem pale in comparision, no matter how much you try to keep an open mind.
Ishabaal
11-23-2007, 8:04 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?brxw5vz90kr, a list of some metal bands I listen to, over 20 so I put it in a .txt file and uploaded it. Metal Bands make up maybe half of my Playlist, so don't try to attack me for not being diverse, I have a lot more bands in the wings. I'm also going to post a link to my Last.fm (http://www.last.fm/user/Ishabaal/), mind you that I don't keep it on all the time so It is a little biased in what it says I have listened to.
TheHighwaySong
11-23-2007, 9:45 AM
I fail to see how Amon Amarth is the new Lamb of God (the new metal excuse for poser depressed teenagers.) I guess I'll find out tomorrow night when I see them.
Chronon
11-23-2007, 11:16 AM
Folk Metal
What does that sound like? It seems pretty awesome.
System Of A Down
Wait... seriously? You? The metalhead who shuns all commercial music listens to System Of A Down? I mean, if you're going to pick a commercial band to listen to, don't pick one of the ones that completely sucks.
Pelican Man
11-23-2007, 4:38 PM
What does that sound like? It seems pretty awesome.
I strongly suggest you download some Fintroll. In fact, that reminds me, I should download some more, seeing as how I lost all my Fintroll songs when my laptop crashed.
Trollhammaren is the first song of theirs I heard, and would be a good one to download to see whether you like the style or not.
Chronon
11-23-2007, 5:48 PM
Wow. I listened to it, and just.. haha. It was so... like on one hand you had this older instrument that I couldn't identify playing a melody that sounded like something you would here in the soundtrack in a fantasy epic in a song called "Elfhelm Village Theme" or something. Then there was, on the other hand these pounding guitars and drums and this growling vocalist being all metal-style. Not what I expected at all. xD
It actually could have been an awesome song if the dude sung instead of growled.
Rocket Lawnchair
11-23-2007, 6:48 PM
Damn you all, I'm not choosing whats my favorite band!
In NO particular order:
1.Darkest Hour-Metal
2.Zebrahead-Punk
3.Avenged Sevenfold-Metalcore
4.Led Zepplin-Classic Rock
5.AC/DC-Classic Rock
6. Jimi Hendrix-Classic Rock
7.Guns 'N' Roses-Classic Rock
8. NoFX- Punk
9.Iron Maiden-"Classic Metal"
10. Metallica-Metal
11. Red Hot Chili Peppers-Alt, Punk, Funk
12.Rage Against the Machine- Rap/Rock/Metal
13. Public Enemy-Old School Rap
14. Slayer-Metal
15. Slipknot-Metal (Used to be my favorite)
16. Van Halen-Classic Rock
I end at 16 and you will like it.
Pelican Man
11-23-2007, 7:32 PM
Wow. I listened to it, and just.. haha. It was so... like on one hand you had this older instrument that I couldn't identify playing a melody that sounded like something you would here in the soundtrack in a fantasy epic in a song called "Elfhelm Village Theme" or something. Then there was, on the other hand these pounding guitars and drums and this growling vocalist being all metal-style. Not what I expected at all. xD
It actually could have been an awesome song if the dude sung instead of growled.
Yeah, it's incredibly strange but at the same time just so... good.
Although I like the growling myself.
And apparently, those instruments are flute and accordion, but don't take my word on that.
Chronon
11-23-2007, 8:09 PM
The growling is ridiculous. Like... why? I mean, maybe it would be an awesome novelty if it was in just the bridge of one song, but in every song, it's just really, really stupid. It doesn't sound good. I read once that it was "supposed to convey the singer's anger and despair". Well, either this guy is always angry, 100% of the time, or he just can't sing at all so growls instead. An attempt at singing would be great, but not this just... noise.
Also, screams convey anger in songs way better than growling does.
Pelican Man
11-23-2007, 9:46 PM
I think it really depends on the band and the songs they write. A long time ago I used to hate screaming, and didn't understand how anyone could listen to it, but now, I like it, as well as growling.
In certain styles and songs, it just works. And with Finntroll, well, they combine folk and metal, who are you to tell them what does and doesn't work when they're doing something that, by all rights, shouldn't work as is?
Nubricse
11-23-2007, 10:04 PM
I actually enjoy a wide variety of bands, but i only actively listen to a few.
In rough order:
1 Incubus (especially their older stuff)
2 Franz Ferdinand
3 Say Anything
4 Billy Talent/Pezz
5 Bloc Party
6 The Strokes
7 Finger Eleven (pre new album)
8 Marty Casey & Lovehammers
9 Marilyn Manson
10 The White Stripes
11 The Fall Of Troy
12 The Hush Sound
13 Our Lady Peace
14 Rage Against The Machine
15 Avenged Sevenfold
16 System Of A Down
17 Dog Traders
18 Foo Fighters (not new album)
19 Rise Against
20 Three Days Grace
Comment if you want. 90% of this is really mainstream, evidently, but our school is pretty much devoted to pop/rap, so I'm sort of unique among them. We only have one real "Metal Angel" type metalhead in our entire school.
I will never understand how people can listen and devote their entire music taste to The Beatles when they never existed during their popularity. Nowadays, many bands surpass them in skill and quality of music. They may have been influential, yes, but listening to a band solely because it was influential to newer bands just seems ridiculous. Bands that should be liked are ones that continue to try new things to this day.
Handel
11-23-2007, 10:21 PM
The Fall of Troy is the only legitimate entry in that cesspool you call a list. It sickens me to see such greatness as Thomas Erak surrounded by such puerile excuses for bands.
Pelican Man
11-23-2007, 10:31 PM
1 Incubus (especially their older stuff)
Love them. Mike Einziger is a fantastic guitarist, he influences my guitarwork a lot.
4 Billy Talent
Ouch, man. Metalcore riffs with annoying vocals. I listen to them, but the vocals really get to me in some songs.
13 Our Lady Peace
I only know one person who even knows who Our Lady Peace are, and he loves them. From what I've heard of them, I love, and they seem surprisingly under appreciated.
14 Rage Against The Machine
15 Avenged Sevenfold
16 System Of A Down
18 Foo Fighters
19 Rise Against
20 Three Days Grace
And this would be the mainstream influence. All are pretty good bands in my opinion, though the Foo Fighters aren't really my taste.
Pretty much your entire list seems to consist of a mainstream rock feel. Get some variety, whether it be something faster, such as ska, or go a bit heavier into metal. I just suggest that you expand your musical taste to some degree.
TheHighwaySong
11-24-2007, 12:03 AM
Another good example of Folk Metal is Mago de Oz from Spain. But of course, the songs are in Spanish.
My ultimate list...
the aracia strain
all shall perish
all that remains
alesana
the almost
alexisonfire
alove for enemies
animosity
annotations of an autopsy
antagonist
the agonist
as blood runs black
as cities burn
as i lay dying
at the throne of judgement
arsonists get all the girls
august burns red
beloved
beneath the sky
between the buried and me
black dahlia murder
blessed by a broken heart
bless the fall
bloodlined calligraphy
bring me the horizon
bullet for my valentine
the chariot
chiodos
confide
david crowder band
dead poetic
demon hunter
destroy the runner
the devil wears prada
drop dead gorgeous
emarosa
emery
emmure
escape the fate
every time i die
the faceless
faith in the fallen
gwen stacy
haste the day
he is legend
heavyheavylowlow
hillsong
i killed the prom queen
impending doom
imperial
inhale/exhale
it dies today
job for a cowboy (old stuff)
kids in the way
knights of the abyss
leeland
life in your way
maylene and the sons of disaster
mortal treason
mychildren mybride
norma jean
pillar
protest the hero
rise against
robbie seay band
rush of fools
saosin
the showdown
scary kids, scaring kids
second theif
stick to your guns
still remains
thrice
a thousand times repent
through the eyes of the dead
twelve gauge valentine
ultra ultra mega
underneath the gun
underoath
walls of jericho
with blood comes cleansing
with faith or flames
I dont care who you are, there is variety there.
Fuck you for ruining SKSK. At least you didn't say Vanna.
Demoir
11-24-2007, 5:35 AM
Is Korplikanni folk metal? Either way, they fucking rock.
Rocket Lawnchair
11-24-2007, 8:19 AM
The Fall of Troy is the only legitimate entry in that cesspool you call a list. It sickens me to see such greatness as Thomas Erak surrounded by such puerile excuses for bands.
Oh, fuck you, tell me why Avenged Sevenfold, S.O.A.D. and Rage Against the machine aren't considered good?
Ishabaal
11-24-2007, 9:25 AM
Is Korplikanni folk metal? Either way, they fucking rock.
Yes, very much so.
Oh, fuck you, tell me why Avenged Sevenfold, S.O.A.D. and Rage Against the machine aren't considered good?
Why do you consider them good, they have a lack of any good instrumentation, the lyrics are the same old crap all crap bands like that sing about, give me one redeeming factor.
1 Incubus (especially their older stuff)
2 Franz Ferdinand
3 Say Anything
4 Billy Talent/Pezz
5 Bloc Party
6 The Strokes
7 Finger Eleven (pre new album)
8 Marty Casey & Lovehammers
9 Marilyn Manson
10 The White Stripes
11 The Fall Of Troy
12 The Hush Sound
13 Our Lady Peace
14 Rage Against The Machine
15 Avenged Sevenfold
16 System Of A Down
17 Dog Traders
18 Foo Fighters (not new album)
19 Rise Against
20 Three Days Grace
Comment if you want. 90% of this is really mainstream, evidently, but our school is pretty much devoted to pop/rap, so I'm sort of unique among them. We only have one real "Metal Angel" type metalhead in our entire school.
I will never understand how people can listen and devote their entire music taste to The Beatles when they never existed during their popularity. Nowadays, many bands surpass them in skill and quality of music. They may have been influential, yes, but listening to a band solely because it was influential to newer bands just seems ridiculous. Bands that should be liked are ones that continue to try new things to this day.
Then why did you list any of those bands, don't get me wrong I like fall of troy but they still are not a new thing. I mean some bands really expand into other genres are experiment, Mr. Bungle, Unexpect and Ulver are just off the top of my head, but the bands on your list are just copies of other bands, I mean come on the White Stripes, thats just silly.
Quadros
11-24-2007, 9:43 AM
Okay new rule: people who can't count are banned from this thread.
Chronon
11-24-2007, 9:47 AM
I think it really depends on the band and the songs they write. A long time ago I used to hate screaming, and didn't understand how anyone could listen to it, but now, I like it, as well as growling.
In certain styles and songs, it just works. And with Finntroll, well, they combine folk and metal, who are you to tell them what does and doesn't work when they're doing something that, by all rights, shouldn't work as is?
It sounds much more like a combination of Celtic and metal, to me. I just... music is supposed to sound good, right? Well, growling just doesn't. It's not something pleasant to the human ear.
I will never understand how people can listen and devote their entire music taste to The Beatles when they never existed during their popularity. Nowadays, many bands surpass them in skill and quality of music. They may have been influential, yes, but listening to a band solely because it was influential to newer bands just seems ridiculous. Bands that should be liked are ones that continue to try new things to this day.
I can't speak for all the other dudes out there, but personally I just really enjoy the Beatles' music. It's really good and fun to listen to. Whether they are influential or not, they still rock to this day. And anyway, my dad got me into them. I also got my dad into a couple bands (like the Decemberists) so it all works out in the end.
Nubricse
11-24-2007, 11:30 AM
Then why did you list any of those bands, don't get me wrong I like fall of troy but they still are not a new thing. I mean some bands really expand into other genres are experiment, Mr. Bungle, Unexpect and Ulver are just off the top of my head, but the bands on your list are just copies of other bands, I mean come on the White Stripes, thats just silly.
Well, yes, my music doesn't fit what I described. It's relatively tame and normal. I'm saying that those types of bands are what SHOULD be popular.
Chronon
11-24-2007, 4:48 PM
Well, yes, my music doesn't fit what I described. It's relatively tame and normal. I'm saying that those types of bands are what SHOULD be popular.
You have a pretty interesting mix of music there. I mean, Bloc Party, Marilyn Manson, and Finger Eleven. Totally unrelated bands there.
Profane Methane
11-24-2007, 5:20 PM
It sounds much more like a combination of Celtic and metal, to me. I just... music is supposed to sound good, right? Well, growling just doesn't. It's not something pleasant to the human ear.
I can't speak for all the other dudes out there, but personally I just really enjoy the Beatles' music. It's really good and fun to listen to. Whether they are influential or not, they still rock to this day. And anyway, my dad got me into them. I also got my dad into a couple bands (like the Decemberists) so it all works out in the end.
Yes, Its a mixture of Celtic folk music and metal.
Handel
11-24-2007, 11:18 PM
Oh, fuck you, tell me why Avenged Sevenfold, S.O.A.D. and Rage Against the machine aren't considered good?
Because they're bland and untalented? Rage Against the Machine is decent (although I'd prefer if it was just Tom Morello playing and everyone else shut the fuck up), but A7X and SOAD are just whiny fucking clown shoes.
Anyone else heard Saul Williams' new Reznor-produced album (The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust)? It's fucking fantastic.
the2na
11-25-2007, 12:03 AM
Reposting mine because I haven't had anyone trash it yet.
The White Stripes
The Beatles
Say Anything
Soundgarden
System of A Down
Bob Dylan
A Perfect Circle
Johnny Cash
Queens of the Stone Age
The Fall Of Troy
Kings of Leon
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
+44
Paramore
Smashing Pumpkins
Jack Johnson
Rage Against The Machine
Metallica
Avenged Sevenfold
Against Me!
Reel Big Fish
Tokyo Ska Paradise Band
The Horrors
Ok Go
Radiohead
Seether
Silversun Pickups
The Used
Tegan and Sara
Audioslave
Bishop Allen
Dear and The Headlights
Straylight Run
The Color Fred
Cassino
+44 suck, and I've never met anyone who actually likes Paramore's MUSIC. Everyone just wants to fuck Hayley. I don't blame them though, she's hot and the music is terrible.
the2na
11-25-2007, 12:33 AM
+44 suck, and I've never met anyone who actually likes Paramore's MUSIC. Everyone just wants to fuck Hayley. I don't blame them though, she's hot and the music is terrible.
Wait, wait, wait, what?
All the pictures and videos of Hayley I've seen, I thought she wasn't all that great looking. It actually made me want to listen to the music less.
Metal Angel
11-25-2007, 12:44 AM
What does that sound like? It seems pretty awesome.
Fintroll - http://youtube.com/watch?v=l1vumjWdqYQ
Turisas - http://youtube.com/watch?v=E8YgoeBCjx0
It's not light music, but it's more spirited then 'regular' Metal. So you might get a kick out of it.
Wait... seriously? You? The metalhead who shuns all commercial music listens to System Of A Down? I mean, if you're going to pick a commercial band to listen to, don't pick one of the ones that completely sucks.
It's a throwback to my earlier tastes. I can't help it, it's just really catchy. I'm not going to deny liking them just because they aren't deemed to be uber amazing or too commercial. That would just be shallow.
Whorelock
11-25-2007, 2:43 AM
System of a Down try too hard to make political statements in their songs, but I'll be damned if they aren't good musicians.
Chronon
11-25-2007, 7:12 AM
Consider yourself damned. Personally, I think that all of their songs are terrible.
Metal Angel
11-25-2007, 7:16 AM
Well they are terrible, in a fashion. They are cheap thrills and the vocals aren't amazing. But something...I can't pin it down.
But it makes me smile. And not alot of things can do that these days.
Quadros
11-25-2007, 7:21 AM
I equate liking System of a Down to being gay. I'm not saying people who listen to system of a down are gay, just that enjoying their music is as alien a concept to me as enjoying being rammed in the arsehole. I can't explain it, it's just the way I'm built.
Chronon
11-25-2007, 7:54 AM
But it makes me smile. And not alot of things can do that these days.
Dude, that's because you listen to death metal "BLAAAAAAAAAAAARK AKAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRHGHGHGH SATAN KILLS ME BY CRUSHING MY SKULL AND MASHING MY BRAINS INTO THE GROUND WITH AN AXE OF DEATH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWERHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!"
even crappy nu metal can make you crack a smile.
Dudes, if you want to know someone with awesome taste in music, check out Audioslave.
Slowcoaster
The Decemberists
The Tragically Hip
Sufjan Stevens
The Hold Steady
Death From Above 1979
Neutral Milk Hotel
Talking Heads
Silversun Pickups
The Tom Fun Orchestra
Iron & Wine
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Wolf Parade
Matthew Good
The Flaming Lips
Radiohead
Dead Kennedys
Regina Spektor
They Might Be Giants
Jon-Rae and the River
What's up with dudes saying that he's elitist and that he only listens to music that no one's ever heard of? There are only four bands there that I haven't heard of and... six of them are on my list. I also love Silversun Pickups and Iron & Wine although I haven't gotten around to getting an album (that might change today, however). Anyway, we should all look up to this dude because he's very cool.
Metal Angel
11-25-2007, 8:41 AM
Dude, that's because you listen to death metal "BLAAAAAAAAAAAARK AKAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRHGHGHGH SATAN KILLS ME BY CRUSHING MY SKULL AND MASHING MY BRAINS INTO THE GROUND WITH AN AXE OF DEATH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWERHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!"
Actually, most Death Metal isn't satanic at all. But never mind.
And while I may rarely smile while listening to more extreme music, I do enjoy it. I just enjoy it on a more primal level, and I tend to laugh more often when listening to certain bands (like Crepitation).
Most 'happy' music actually has the opposite effect on me and makes me extremely irritable and gloomy. I just can't stand forced enthusiasm and bubblegum happiness.
And Quadros, how do you know until you've tried it? You never know...
:)
Ishabaal
11-25-2007, 8:49 AM
I think the problem with almost everyones music tastes that I have seen so far, is that they focus on only 1 or 2 genres of music, and refuse to expand to other genres. In the 6 years I have been doing heavy listening(as in a lot of it) I went from popular to metal then expanded into progressive and at the same time became enamored with classical and jazz, I then went into the phase where I am at now, I listen to every genre of music except U.S. southern country music.
Chronon
11-25-2007, 9:30 AM
There's a reason for that, isn't there? If they enjoy one type of music more, they're going to listen to it more, right?
I've only really been heavily listening to music for what, six months. I like indie, but I'm also starting to listen to prog. So... you know.
I also hate country music. It's even worse than rap and nu metal. :)
hoLLow TeaRs
11-25-2007, 10:55 AM
I think the problem with almost everyones music tastes that I have seen so far, is that they focus on only 1 or 2 genres of music, and refuse to expand to other genres. In the 6 years I have been doing heavy listening(as in a lot of it) I went from popular to metal then expanded into progressive and at the same time became enamored with classical and jazz, I then went into the phase where I am at now, I listen to every genre of music except U.S. southern country music.
Exactly my point god damn, they all like prog rock and nothing else. I like everything but rap/techno because i think it is not music, it's just talking, and techno is no lyrics so I can't see it as being music.
Techno does too have lyrics more than often. Or maybe I'm confusing it with electronica.
TheHighwaySong
11-25-2007, 11:23 AM
Techno is no lyrics so I can't see it as being music.
So if Techno isn't music because it has no lyrics, then the hundreds of symphonies that have been composed must not be music either
Chronon
11-25-2007, 11:24 AM
and techno is no lyrics so I can't see it as being music.
Um... wtf? Are you saying that classical music isn't music? Or jazz isn't music? Something needs to have lyrics to be music?
You just basically dismissed half the music in the world as "not music". You obviously don't know anything.
Derelict
11-25-2007, 12:31 PM
Fintroll - http://youtube.com/watch?v=l1vumjWdqYQ
Turisas - http://youtube.com/watch?v=E8YgoeBCjx0
It's not light music, but it's more spirited then 'regular' Metal. So you might get a kick out of it.
Haha, I remember when I first found Turisas and was listening to it. My brother walked in, stopped for a second then said, "Are those french horns?!"
I couldn't stop laughing. There are a few people who just can't get past the fact that they dress up like vikings. I think it's awesome and the music is pretty wicked as well. It's funny listening to interviews by them. I love Finnish accents.
There are few bands I can say have a better second album than first, and I personally like The Varangian Way more than Battle Metal.
I also really enjoy Finntroll and Amon Amarth, although Amon Amarth are a little more rough, and less what could be construed as "happy".
Chronon
11-25-2007, 12:40 PM
Why can't they get past the fact that they dress up as vikings? That's just stupid.
I mean, Sufjan Stevens dressed up as a boy scout. But he's still awesome.
hoLLow TeaRs
11-25-2007, 2:47 PM
Um... wtf? Are you saying that classical music isn't music? Or jazz isn't music? Something needs to have lyrics to be music?
You just basically dismissed half the music in the world as "not music". You obviously don't know anything.
You obviously don't understand when someone forgets to put something dumb nigger.
Techno has no instruments, rap neither, so tell me why it is music. PLEASE guru of the internet!
Chrisso
11-25-2007, 3:36 PM
Probably because there is a hint of musical composition in both of those genres. Ever heard notes being played on a violin? How about on a guitar? Well, how is hearing notes being played from a computer any different? Even rap has musical beats in the background, otherwise it would just be called talk. Sorry to burst your bubble, but music isn't limited to physical instruments.
Technically your body is a "physical" instrument, chrisso.
So is everything.
If it's made in the physical world.
Ishabaal
11-25-2007, 5:02 PM
Technically your body is a "physical" instrument, chrisso.
So is everything.
If it's made in the physical world.
S: (n) musical instrument, instrument (any of various devices or contrivances that can be used to produce musical tones or sounds)
So your body isn't a instrument because it is not a device, but this would encompass drum machines and computers
Chronon
11-25-2007, 7:05 PM
You obviously don't understand when someone forgets to put something dumb nigger.
Techno has no instruments, rap neither, so tell me why it is music. PLEASE guru of the internet!
You said "no lyrics" not "no instruments", which is entirely different. Anyway, whether rap is music or not is debatable, but techno is most definitely music, for all the reasons Chrisso said.
And way to be a racist. I'm white, by the way.
Profane Methane
11-26-2007, 12:28 AM
You obviously don't understand when someone forgets to put something dumb nigger.
Techno has no instruments, rap neither, so tell me why it is music. PLEASE guru of the internet!
You can use anything to make music, it may not be any good, But still it is music. Okay idiot?
Metal Angel
11-26-2007, 1:08 AM
There's music, and there's bad music.
Undoubtedly few of you could consider this to be music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4
And why not? Because there's no melodies or time signitures? Or because it is really little more then static and droning?
Regardless, I love it. Really sets me in the right frame of mind when I'm thinking deep thoughts.
Demoir
11-26-2007, 8:46 AM
This is now the greatest song in the world ever : http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y150Lm4kZ_M.
Ishabaal
11-26-2007, 1:25 PM
Sun 0))) is a... strange band, while I don't listen to them very often I do respect the noise genre.
Chronon
11-26-2007, 3:45 PM
There's music, and there's bad music.
Undoubtedly few of you could consider this to be music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4
And why not? Because there's no melodies or time signitures? Or because it is really little more then static and droning?
Regardless, I love it. Really sets me in the right frame of mind when I'm thinking deep thoughts.
I don't. Because the definition of music is something like: an art form consisting of melodies and rhythms that sound pleasant to the human ear. Judging by that definition, Sunn O))) is not music.
In my opinion, the best music for thinking deep thoughts is silence.
W32.Dom
11-26-2007, 3:45 PM
!!!
Aesop Rock
...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead
A Tribe Called Quest
Aphex Twin
Arcade Fire
Battles
The Beatles
Beck
Björk
Black Flag
Black Star
Boards of Canada
The Clash
Daft Punk
David Bowie
De La Soul
Death From Above 1979
Deltron 3030
The Doors
DJ Shadow
Bob Dylan
El-P
The Fall
Fugazi
Gang Of Four
Gil-Scott Heron
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Guided By Voices
Herbie Hancock
Jawbox
Jeff Buckley
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Joy Division
Jurassic 5
Justice
Interpol
LCD Soundsystem
Led Zeppelin
Liars
Lightning Bolt
Love
Madvillain
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Mansun
Massive Attack
Miles Davis
Mission of Burma
My Bloody Valentine
Neutral Milk Hotel
New Order
Pavement
Pink Floyd
Pixies
Portishead
Primal Scream
Public Enemy
Radiohead
REM
Ride
Sigur Rós
Slint
Sonic Youth
Soul Coughing
The Specials
Squarepusher
Stereolab
The Stone Roses
Talking Heads
Television
Tortoise
TV on the Radio
Underworld
UNKLE
The Velvet Underground
Weezer
The White Stripes
Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
Chronon
11-26-2007, 3:59 PM
You have amazing taste in music, my friend.
Arcade Fire are on your list. :)
Ishabaal
11-26-2007, 4:24 PM
Aesop Rock
...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead
A Tribe Called Quest
Aphex Twin
Arcade Fire
Battles
The Beatles
Beck
Björk
Black Flag
Black Star
Boards of Canada
The Clash
Daft Punk
David Bowie
De La Soul
Death From Above 1979
Deltron 3030
The Doors
DJ Shadow
Bob Dylan
El-P
The Fall
Fugazi
Gang Of Four
Gil-Scott Heron
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Guided By Voices
Herbie Hancock
Jawbox
Jeff Buckley
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Joy Division
Jurassic 5
Justice
Interpol
LCD Soundsystem
Led Zeppelin
Liars
Lightning Bolt
Love
Madvillain
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Mansun
Massive Attack
Miles Davis
Mission of Burma
My Bloody Valentine
Neutral Milk Hotel
New Order
Pavement
Pink Floyd
Pixies
Portishead
Primal Scream
Public Enemy
Radiohead
REM
Ride
Sigur Rós
Slint
Sonic Youth
Soul Coughing
The Specials
Squarepusher
Stereolab
The Stone Roses
Talking Heads
Television
Tortoise
TV on the Radio
Underworld
UNKLE
The Velvet Underground
Weezer
The White Stripes
Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
1st off, your going to get a infraction because this is more than 20 bands.
Bold is the ones I know of, and like. You have a mix of good bands/artists and bad bands like The White Stripes, so you are a 6, on a scale of 1 to 10
YourMother
11-26-2007, 4:36 PM
Only one dude likes Cobra Starship? Pathetic.
Chronon
11-26-2007, 5:24 PM
Oh my god? A person likes Cobra Starship? Pathetic.
Troublegum
11-26-2007, 8:01 PM
1. Bathory
2. The Cure
3. Weakling
4. Neurosis
5. Choking Victim
6. Fugazi
7. Electric Wizard
8. Ludicra
9. Raine Maida
10. Therapy?
11. Air
12. Melvins
13. Suertramp
14. Burzum
15. Bongzilla
16. I Monster
17. God is an Astronaut
18. Tom Waits
19. Pink Floyd
20. Husker Du
I only know one person who even knows who Our Lady Peace are, and he loves them. From what I've heard of them, I love, and they seem surprisingly under appreciated.
I always thought Our Lady Peace was insanely well known, but that may just be because I'm from Canada.
Metal Angel
11-27-2007, 3:21 AM
In my opinion, the best music for thinking deep thoughts is silence.
Yeah, because that makes perfect sense now doesn't it? :indiff:
And music to me is the expression of emotions and feelings via organised soundwaves. Sunn O))) expresses the hopelessness of life, that ultimately nothing anyone does will ever make the slightest difference to the universe and that everyone will turn to dust and disappear forever. The seemingly random and unstructured drones of static represent the universe's constant and unrelenting nature.
But let's ignore all that. It doesn't make a pleasing and sprity noise that makes you think that the world is a wonderful and fair place. The more you're distracted from the brutal truth, the less it can really exist, right?
On that note, I think I'll just return to my own little world and laugh at everyone else for a little while.
TheHighwaySong
11-27-2007, 8:34 AM
Long tedious list
Very mainstream list, yet pretty varied. I like the addition of A Tribe Called Quest
I swear, every white person in my High School just loves the Beatles >>
Handel
11-27-2007, 6:46 PM
Yeah, because that makes perfect sense now doesn't it? :indiff:
And music to me is the expression of emotions and feelings via organised soundwaves. Sunn O))) expresses the hopelessness of life, that ultimately nothing anyone does will ever make the slightest difference to the universe and that everyone will turn to dust and disappear forever. The seemingly random and unstructured drones of static represent the universe's constant and unrelenting nature.
Or it could just be a shitty, unorganized, lazy wall of sound that has no real meaning. What you say it represents is just basically you making shit up. You should probably re-take Cynicism 101, because right now, this whole "you're ignorant because you think the world is all fairies and unicorns" act is getting ollld.
Chronon
11-27-2007, 7:34 PM
And music to me is the expression of emotions and feelings via organised soundwaves. Sunn O))) expresses the hopelessness of life, that ultimately nothing anyone does will ever make the slightest difference to the universe and that everyone will turn to dust and disappear forever. The seemingly random and unstructured drones of static represent the universe's constant and unrelenting nature.
rofl
No, that wasn't me laughing at you. That was a laugh symbolizing God laughing at the fact that all of the world are meddling in their meaningless lives searching for an answer, while in fact, there is no answer, and the true answer can only be found within the souls of the departed, within the face of God himself, within humanity, within evil. The laugh symbolizes that evil will perish, and good will triumph only if the answer can be found, while there is no answer. Listen to this laugh, and realize the truth.
rofl rofl rofl
But let's ignore all that. It doesn't make a pleasing and sprity noise that makes you think that the world is a wonderful and fair place. The more you're distracted from the brutal truth, the less it can really exist, right?
The world actually is a pretty nice place. Yeah, the universe will continue and nothing we do can ever can ever reach the scope of the universe and we'll die pretty soon and blah blah blah but that won't actually effect whether you're happy or not. You were given maybe eighty or so years on this planet to use. I don't know about you, but I'm going to use it to make myself and others happy. Thinking about how infinite the universe is and blah blah blah is fairly depressing, and not thinking about it will make me happier.
Not thinking about it won't make it go away, but it's not going to affect my life, so who cares?
TheHighwaySong
11-29-2007, 8:12 AM
Shit rant
What the fuck are you even saying. Nothing you just said made any sense. At all.
Are you really that ignorant that you think all Metal is Satanic and "blehhh hammer smashed face, blehhhh"
Go back to Slipknot.
fernandopassion
11-29-2007, 11:36 AM
1. nine inch nails
2. system of a down
3. coheed and cambria.
4. queens of the stone age
5. mindless self indulgence
6. breaking benjamin
7. wolfmother
8. black sabbath
9. muse
10. velvet revolver
11. saul williams
12. a oerfect circle
13. black eyed peas
14. meatloaf
15. queen
16. fergie
17. led zeppelin
18. jon brion
19. red hot chili peppers
20. the white stripes
TheHighwaySong
11-29-2007, 1:05 PM
1. nine inch nails
2. system of a down
3. coheed and cambria.
4. queens of the stone age
5. mindless self indulgence
6. breaking benjamin
7. wolfmother
8. black sabbath
9. muse
10. velvet revolver
11. saul williams
12. a oerfect circle
13. black eyed peas
14. meatloaf
15. queen
16. fergie
17. led zeppelin
18. jon brion
19. red hot chili peppers
20. the white stripes
Majority of your list is mainstream (not always a bad thing). I love the addition of Saul Williams, I saw him with Serj Tankian (hence more kudos for the addition of SOAD)
fernandopassion
11-29-2007, 3:32 PM
i actually should have him right under SOAD but for some reason i lost thought of him until number 11 needed an artist.
i do like a majority of mainstream but sometimes i come across some small band that i really like. the only problem is that now-a-days all the smaller bands are emo or screamo and i hate both those types
Chronon
11-29-2007, 5:00 PM
Go back to Slipknot.
I hate Slipknot. A lot.
Ishabaal
11-29-2007, 5:58 PM
i do like a majority of mainstream but sometimes i come across some small band that i really like. the only problem is that now-a-days all the smaller bands are emo or screamo and i hate both those types
Wow, thats just wrong, in so many ways let me count.
1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. oh, whats this... Wrong!
The majority of small bands are in fact not emo or screamo bands, you can look at bands like Comus, Jan dukes De grey, Le Orme, Koenjihyakkei, Sloche, Echolyn, I mean the list goes on there are a huge number of small and lesser known bands you just have to look, which is why they are smaller and lesser known.
fernandopassion
11-29-2007, 6:07 PM
those are all foreign bands though and i assume you dont live in the U.S. but bands in europe and other countries dont get much (actually none at all) publicity in the U.S. so catching word about these bands are impossible. in america, all the small bands are whiny 22 year olds who scream and wear girl pants and striped hoodies.
Chronon
11-29-2007, 7:46 PM
You know nothing about the music scene, man.
Not all of the small bands are emo. In fact, the vast majority of them aren't. The underground bands are dispersed among all the genres as the mainstream bands are. The attention-getting underground bands are mostly indie, prog, hardcore, metal.
fernandopassion
11-30-2007, 7:46 AM
i dont need to know much about the music scene to understand what i like to listen to.
Quadros
11-30-2007, 8:19 AM
Actually yes you do. Only listening to mainstream bands without delving deeper into the scene to find similar or perhaps better things is pretty much judging an iceberg by what you can see. This assumption that the underground is all emo is quite simply twattish. Sorry, but there isn't another way of putting it. It's beyond stupid and pig-ignorant. There is an underground movement in every genre, and your assumption is probably fuelled by exposure to the emo 'underground' on MTV. Funny thing, IF YOU'RE ON MTV, YOU'RE NOT FUCKING UNDERGROUND! Here, listen to biffy clyro (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7901934). Small band, not emo. You'll love them, because I think they're crap and you've got crap taste. You can thank me later. :douchecock:
TheHighwaySong
11-30-2007, 12:39 PM
Is there such thing as mainstream Ska?
Metal Angel
11-30-2007, 1:10 PM
The world actually is a pretty nice place.
Since when? Even if you discount humans, the planet itself is violent and unforgiving and really doesn't care if you live or die.
But whatever, pretending that things are alright is all that matters. Just as long as those babies keep smiling, things are good.
Btw, Torsofuck are an awesome band. You should all listen to the songs that are hosted on Youtube. Right now.
fiddler in the pub
11-30-2007, 1:38 PM
Soil
Drowning Pool
Nirvana
Audioslave
Pearl Jam
Smashing Pumpkins
The Beatles
Bob Marley
King Missile
Bloc Party
Butthole Surfers
Nine Inch Nails
Rob Dougan
Mettalica
Rammnstein
System Of A Down
Ra
Disturbed
Buckcherry
Martin O'Donnell & Micheal Salvatori
The Police
Guns N' Roses
Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
Korn
Ram Jam
Pushmonkey
fernandopassion
11-30-2007, 1:50 PM
Soil
...
Nine Inch Nails
...
What nine inch nails do you like?
fiddler in the pub
11-30-2007, 1:54 PM
What nine inch nails do you like?
Year Zero, and With Teeth
Krabby
11-30-2007, 3:35 PM
Just checking before I make an effort posting - can I list DJs? I'm mostly into jump/hardstyle/hardcore and there's not really any "bands" that play those.
Chronon
11-30-2007, 4:11 PM
Since when? Even if you discount humans, the planet itself is violent and unforgiving and really doesn't care if you live or die.
But whatever, pretending that things are alright is all that matters. Just as long as those babies keep smiling, things are good.
Well, I mean, of course. That's nature of things, some people are going to be luckier than others. If it wasn't that way, then the world would be boring, which would be even worse. Some people will die at the age of five. Some will live to be a hundred. I'm guessing you're one of the luckier people. If you have a computer, you're luckier than 98% of the world. You really have nothing to complain about.
Today I got a good grade on my science test. Then my math test was cancelled and instead we just messed around for 45 minutes and had a lot of fun. Then I managed to sneak in two cookies at lunch without anyone noticing. Then they played a really good song that I had never heard before on the radio. Life really isn't all that bad. Actually, today was kind of a crappy day. Usually I can think of way more great things that happened today.
It's not all bad.
Pelican Man
11-30-2007, 6:22 PM
But whatever, pretending that things are alright is all that matters. Just as long as those babies keep smiling, things are good.
And pretending that everything is fucked up and the world is a mean, harsh place makes you seem deep and more connected with the world than us.
Good job man, you're so with it, y'know?
TheHighwaySong
11-30-2007, 7:27 PM
Year Zero, and With Teeth
Haha, you were being sarcastic right?
blltmssgy
12-01-2007, 12:46 PM
So yeah I was TO'd for a week and here is my response to some things.
I'm sure that they did have fun playing, but what about say, Joy Division? I mean, they're one of the most influential bands of all time, but their frontman was really depressed. You don't have to have fun playing your music to be good.
True, but why would you make the music if you did not like it. And with Joy Division you said that he was depressed, not that he didn't like making his music. Having fun whilst playing your music just makes it so much more enjoyable to you, and that tends to translate to the quality of your music too. No you don't have to have fun to be good, but again why play it if you don't like it.
The first time I heard L'Via L'Viaquez I loved it. Or well, that's really not true. All great songs, it seems, you listen to them once, you think "that wasn't so great"...
So, really, my first experiences with the band were positive.
Hmm... do I smell a contradiction?
So you just listen to older stuff, I guess? As a youth of today, I'm kind of out of touch with older music. I mean, I appreciate it a lot, but I don't listen to it all that much. Most of what I listen to is recent, except for the Beatles and Talking Heads.
I'm currently in High School, and I would consider myself a youth of today. Well because I am a youth, and I am living today. Just because you are younger does not mean you only have to listen to what is being made today. I used to think that, and I would only listen to stuff in which the band would still be making more music and possibly touring, but then I realized that was a really, really stupid and ignorant thing to do, and I began to expand my music tastes. I quite quickly realized that punk and metal weren't that great. This is not to say that I do not listen to bands that are putting out music today, for instance, Moe. and the Disco Biscuits are two bands that do that, and Dispatch is from the 90s.
Dude, you're so adamant that noone else listens to your music that you had to put the genre after each band? Because noone knows that Jethro Tull are folk/blues/prog. Believe me, you're not that special for listening to old music. You're trying so hard to be "out there" with your taste in music.
No I am not, I was just purely answering Chronon's question, he asked me what music I liked, so I tried to be as specific as I could. And just because I like older music, and that I am adamant that I think that most (not all) of the music being made today is not as good as it was 30 or 40 years ago, does that mean in your eyes that I think I am special for listening to the music I do?
I hope you have another reason for that, than just me putting the genre after the band.
I will never understand how people can listen and devote their entire music taste to The Beatles when they never existed during their popularity. Nowadays, many bands surpass them in skill and quality of music. They may have been influential, yes, but listening to a band solely because it was influential to newer bands just seems ridiculous. Bands that should be liked are ones that continue to try new things to this day.
First off let me make it clear that I listen to the Beatles because I think that they made great music. Personally for me I like their bluesy and psychedelically stuff (i.e. The White Album, Sgt Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, etc.) but I like all of their music.
Now the part of your statement that I bolded, you say that they influence new bands, and then go on to say that bands should be liked that continue new things. Technically you could say that the Beatles are trying new things, because these new bands they influence do not sound exactly like them. I am not going to say that though.
Also don't you think it is a little ignorant to say that only bands that do new things should be liked? That basically rules out any band that has stopped making music. Also what about bands who tried to make new music, and yet that newer style was so completely different from their old style, that their old fans did not like their new style?
I think the problem with almost everyones music tastes that I have seen so far, is that they focus on only 1 or 2 genres of music, and refuse to expand to other genres. In the 6 years I have been doing heavy listening(as in a lot of it) I went from popular to metal then expanded into progressive and at the same time became enamored with classical and jazz, I then went into the phase where I am at now, I listen to every genre of music except U.S. southern country music.
Congrats to you!
You stated earlier that I had a G-d complex, now let me tell you something. I too have explored many musical genres, and guess what?!?
I the music I like now is the music I like, I really do not have a taste for "alternative" and metal music, I've explored them and do not like them. If I were to tell you why you would tell me that I was wrong, but here goes:
I like to understand the people singing, I like to hear more than just straight 8ths, 16ths or 32nds from a bassist, I do not double bass peddles, I like 5 minute guitar solos, I like a clean sounding guitar not one that is too distorted, cause those aren't guitars, those are guitars in which the sound has been altered to not sound like a guitar, I like it when all the instruments have part of the melody. Wheew. Maybe that's enough reasoning, let me know if it isn't.
I am sorry that I do not reach out far enough for you.
I'm also sorry that I have an extremely small set of music I like that ranges from blues to folk to prog to jam to reggae to hippie music. I'm also sorry that I don't mind listening to the occasional funk or jazz. Or that I like some bands that can only be described with their name.
I'm so very sorry, hopefully one day you might forgive me.
There's music, and there's bad music.
Undoubtedly few of you could consider this to be music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4
And why not? Because there's no melodies or time signitures? Or because it is really little more then static and droning?
Well, if I wanted to listen to this I would have just gone and turned on my radio to a station that doesn't get reception.
Ok now to be serious.
Let's look at your list:
No melodies: Music should have melodies. They make music pleasant to the ear.
No time signatures: Nothing wrong with this, time signatures in my mind box music in and that is wrong. Music needs to break free and become one with the musician and it shouldn't be contained by set rules of when a beat should be played.
Static: Not cool.
Droning: Occasionaly good in my opinion, but only in bits and pieces (one or two minutes) during a long 10, 15 jam, not for a whole song.
But a song of static and droning does not equate to music in my mind.
This is now the greatest song in the world ever : http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y150Lm4kZ_M.
I decided to check out this video, and the fiddle part at the beginning is pretty good, but I seriously cannot see what people see in double bass peddle drumming and straight eighth notes from a bass. (or 16ths or 32nds) In my opinion the guitar work was not that interesting either. But the fiddle was really cool, but just the fiddle wouldn't make me listen to them.
In my opinion, the best music for thinking deep thoughts is silence.
When I am listening to my music, especially the long jams, I find it really easy to get lost in thought, contemplating things. Either that or I get lost in the song, and feel it in my body, one of the two things. It really depends on the circumstances, but I need to think about something, I usually put on music rather than sit there in silence.
lobster bisque anyone?
12-01-2007, 1:01 PM
1.led zeppelin
2.van halen
3.guns n' roses
4.acdc
5.black sabbath
6.jethro tull
7.pink floyd
8.jimi hendrix
9.the rolling stones
10.styx
11.blue oyster cut
12.kansas
13.ozzy osbourne
14.a flock of seagulls
15.boston
16.ccr
17.cream
18.allman brothers
19.lynyrd skynyrd
20.yes
21.queen
22.rush
23.foreigner
24.the police
25 journey
26.the who
27.def leppard
28.foghat
29.scorpions
30.poison
note:these are not in order
also quardos, you spell favorite like a brit
Chronon
12-01-2007, 1:23 PM
I'm currently in High School, and I would consider myself a youth of today. Well because I am a youth, and I am living today. Just because you are younger does not mean you only have to listen to what is being made today. I used to think that, and I would only listen to stuff in which the band would still be making more music and possibly touring, but then I realized that was a really, really stupid and ignorant thing to do, and I began to expand my music tastes. I quite quickly realized that punk and metal weren't that great. This is not to say that I do not listen to bands that are putting out music today, for instance, Moe. and the Disco Biscuits are two bands that do that, and Dispatch is from the 90s.
I don't think that I only have to listen to music today. I know that there is also great music from other times. I know that a lot of classic rock bands are very talented and influential and made great music.
But you missed my point. I just don't... connect to it as well. Something just seems off when I'm listening to music from a long time ago. I don't enjoy it as much, and I know that that's a stupid thing to say, but it's true.
Ishabaal
12-01-2007, 2:35 PM
Congrats to you!
You stated earlier that I had a G-d complex, now let me tell you something. I too have explored many musical genres, and guess what?!?
I the music I like now is the music I like, I really do not have a taste for "alternative" and metal music, I've explored them and do not like them. If I were to tell you why you would tell me that I was wrong, but here goes:
I like to understand the people singing, I like to hear more than just straight 8ths, 16ths or 32nds from a bassist, I do not double bass peddles, I like 5 minute guitar solos, I like a clean sounding guitar not one that is too distorted, cause those aren't guitars, those are guitars in which the sound has been altered to not sound like a guitar, I like it when all the instruments have part of the melody. Wheew. Maybe that's enough reasoning, let me know if it isn't.
I am sorry that I do not reach out far enough for you.
I'm also sorry that I have an extremely small set of music I like that ranges from blues to folk to prog to jam to reggae to hippie music. I'm also sorry that I don't mind listening to the occasional funk or jazz. Or that I like some bands that can only be described with their name.
I'm so very sorry, hopefully one day you might forgive me.
This post confused me at some points because I wasn't sure what you were trying to say, are you saying "I like music that ranges" if so I understand, also why would you be sorry about funk or jazz I love both of these genres and many artists in them. You have a very convoluted description of metal, not all metal has "growl" vocals, Dream Theater, Opeth, even some Akercocke songs. Not all bassists have a boring part in the song many metal bands place a heavy focus on bass, Liquid Tension Experiment for one. The double bass is not used very much in drone or some ambient black metal bands, Atroce for instance, uses very few double bass moments, and very laid back vocals. Clean sounding guitar, while there are no bands I can think of right now using only acoustic, I can think of bands that do that in some of their songs, metal bands that is. The last one was just ignorant and stupid. You should be sorry I do not condemn a genre without listening to almost every band I can find that is a representative of a part of that genre, which is how I expanded into some indie rap bands. Also you still being very cocky you give no support for any arguments you give, next time don't just spout nonsense give proof to back it up. by the way I think it is spelled God complex not G-d complex, for I second I thought you were talking about the G dimension. By the way, you listed Prog which would encompass Prog Metal, be more accurate in your rants, like me.
TheHighwaySong
12-01-2007, 3:12 PM
There's music, and there's bad music.
Undoubtedly few of you could consider this to be music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4
And why not? Because there's no melodies or time signitures? Or because it is really little more then static and droning?
Regardless, I love it. Really sets me in the right frame of mind when I'm thinking deep thoughts.
I thought this was pretty cool actually, but does the majority of their music sound like that?
Krabby
12-01-2007, 4:10 PM
Just checking before I make an effort posting - can I list DJs? I'm mostly into jump/hardstyle/hardcore and there's not really any "bands" that play those.
If no one answers me by tomorrow I'll just assume it's ok xD
blltmssgy
12-01-2007, 5:43 PM
This post confused me at some points because I wasn't sure what you were trying to say, are you saying "I like music that ranges" if so I understand, also why would you be sorry about funk or jazz I love both of these genres and many artists in them. You have a very convoluted description of metal, not all metal has "growl" vocals, Dream Theater, Opeth, even some Akercocke songs. Not all bassists have a boring part in the song many metal bands place a heavy focus on bass, Liquid Tension Experiment for one. The double bass is not used very much in drone or some ambient black metal bands, Atroce for instance, uses very few double bass moments, and very laid back vocals. Clean sounding guitar, while there are no bands I can think of right now using only acoustic, I can think of bands that do that in some of their songs, metal bands that is. The last one was just ignorant and stupid. You should be sorry I do not condemn a genre without listening to almost every band I can find that is a representative of a part of that genre, which is how I expanded into some indie rap bands. Also you still being very cocky you give no support for any arguments you give, next time don't just spout nonsense give proof to back it up. by the way I think it is spelled God complex not G-d complex, for I second I thought you were talking about the G dimension. By the way, you listed Prog which would encompass Prog Metal, be more accurate in your rants, like me.
I can understand the confusion, sorry. I was trying to mock you because you claimed earlier that I had a G-d complex, and in the post I previously quoted you said most people here only listen to one or two genres, I was just trying to show you that you aren't the only one who listens to multiple genres, and when I did so, you get upset and angry at me because I do not listen to metal. And then now you go on to tell me that since I do not listen because I dislike the way it sounds, I am ignorant.
Here is my response:
You want me to be more specific, I shall. I have listened to both Dream Theater and Liquid Tension Experiment, and I did not like either. Also please, please tell me why if I am to listen to a genre and I find that I do not like it, why should I go out and listen to more of it in search of finding something I might like? That doesn't make much sense to me.
Next point, you call me ignorant and then you go and be ignorant about my religion. I do not spell out G-d for a specific reason and I've explained why multiple times on these forums, go look it up on google.
Also I said that I dislike metal, but I like prog, and if you look at the prog I listed none of those bands play anything similar to metal (except for Tull in their later years, but I do not like Tull during that phase (Crest of a Knave album for example)).
I gave perfectly sufficient support for my argument, I said exactly why I dislike the metal and the other genres I have stated that I dislike. I am not trying to make you listen to my music, so unless you are wanting me to try and make you listen to it, I do not see what other support I need to give.
I'm not sorry, I just kept saying sorry out of sarcasm.
Also you come out and claim that I am trying to be better than everyone else, and then go on and keep reminding us how you listen to all these different kinds of music, and how you don't condemn them. But if I remember correctly you stated that you dislike southern country music, and I highly doubt that you have listened to almost all southern country artists.
I do not see what you are trying to do. It almost seems as if you are trying to get me to go out and find music that I know that I don't like and then start listening to it, and then claim I like it so you can go on and call me a hypocrite. I don't know if that is what you are trying to do, but it sure seems like it.
fernandopassion
12-01-2007, 6:06 PM
Haha, you were being sarcastic right?
I can see how you would laugh at him for the with Teeth part, but Year Zero was a sick album...
takesoffhat
12-01-2007, 6:18 PM
1.Tool
2.Streetlight Manifesto/early Catch 22
3.Billy Talent
4.Cat o' 9 Tales
5.Die Mannequin
6.Nirvana
7.Muse
8.NoFX
9.Pezz
10.A Perfect Circle
11.The Planet Smashers
12.Radiohead
13.Silverchair (before they started sucking)
14.Toadies
15.The Vines
16.Violent Femmes
17.The White Stripes
18.Incubus
19.Lovedrug
20.Miles Okazaki
Lobster Bisque, you have about the same taste in music most people I know had at age 12. It's all about what sounds awesome and fast and cool, not about how it makes you feel. Admittedly, there are some decent bands, like Pink Floyd and Hendrix, and Zeppelin is decent, but come on. Here's Van Halen : look at me! ACDC: I get drunk and bang hot chicks! Oh yeah! Scorpions just suck. I'm not going to spend any more time talking about how much they suck, or I'll get angry and end up going columbine.
Ishabaal
12-01-2007, 7:11 PM
I can understand the confusion, sorry. I was trying to mock you because you claimed earlier that I had a G-d complex, and in the post I previously quoted you said most people here only listen to one or two genres, I was just trying to show you that you aren't the only one who listens to multiple genres, and when I did so, you get upset and angry at me because I do not listen to metal. And then now you go on to tell me that since I do not listen because I dislike the way it sounds, I am ignorant.
No, you sounded as if you has a very narrow view of metal, which you do not so it seems.
You want me to be more specific, I shall. I have listened to both Dream Theater and Liquid Tension Experiment, and I did not like either. Also please, please tell me why if I am to listen to a genre and I find that I do not like it, why should I go out and listen to more of it in search of finding something I might like? That doesn't make much sense to me.
Valid point, I would agree with you now that I know you have at least tried other parts of the genre.
Next point, you call me ignorant and then you go and be ignorant about my religion. I do not spell out G-d for a specific reason and I've explained why multiple times on these forums, go look it up on google.
This was sarcasm on my part.
Also I said that I dislike metal, but I like prog, and if you look at the prog I listed none of those bands play anything similar to metal (except for Tull in their later years, but I do not like Tull during that phase (Crest of a Knave album for example)).
I gave perfectly sufficient support for my argument, I said exactly why I dislike the metal and the other genres I have stated that I dislike. I am not trying to make you listen to my music, so unless you are wanting me to try and make you listen to it, I do not see what other support I need to give.
I was speaking to Prog in general not simply what bands you listed, I said this because in the other post you said Prog not, Prog bands on my list.
I'm not sorry, I just kept saying sorry out of sarcasm.
Fair enough
Also you come out and claim that I am trying to be better than everyone else, and then go on and keep reminding us how you listen to all these different kinds of music, and how you don't condemn them. But if I remember correctly you stated that you dislike southern country music, and I highly doubt that you have listened to almost all southern country artists.
I am, I have. Trust me.
I do not see what you are trying to do. It almost seems as if you are trying to get me to go out and find music that I know that I don't like and then start listening to it, and then claim I like it so you can go on and call me a hypocrite. I don't know if that is what you are trying to do, but it sure seems like it.
That is it exactly what I was trying to, you are amazing for having caught on, would you now like to talk about other conspiracies you have thought up about me.
blltmssgy
12-01-2007, 7:11 PM
1.Tool
2.Streetlight Manifesto/early Catch 22
3.Billy Talent
4.Cat o' 9 Tales
5.Die Mannequin
6.Nirvana
7.Muse
8.NoFX
9.Pezz
10.A Perfect Circle
11.The Planet Smashers
12.Radiohead
13.Silverchair (before they started sucking)
14.Toadies
15.The Vines
16.Violent Femmes
17.The White Stripes
18.Incubus
19.Lovedrug
20.Miles Okazaki
Admittedly, there are some decent bands, like Pink Floyd and Hendrix, and Zeppelin is decent, but come on.
Ok, looking at your bands and then seeing you list Pink Floyd, Hendrix, and Zeppelin as decent makes me question you. I do not like Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd and Hendrix and like a little bit, but to call them decent???
They are some of the most talented and creative rock musicians every, and then you come and say that the pop punk band NoFX is better? That's the craziest shit I've seen in this thread, and trust me there has been some crazy shit in this thread.
blltmssgy
12-01-2007, 7:20 PM
This was sarcasm on my part.
Fair enough
That is it exactly what I was trying to, you are amazing for having caught on, would you now like to talk about other conspiracies you have thought up about me.
Ooh fun sarcasm, but in all seriousness I have had a growing suspicion that you were behind 9/11 and now with your exotic screen name that I just noticed, I am positive. I found you Osama.
I was speaking to Prog in general not simply what bands you listed, I said this because in the other post you said Prog not, Prog bands on my list.
Let me clarify myself then. I like the prog bands that sound similar to the prog bands that I have posted on my list. Just to clear it up the bands on my list are just music that I own, I like other music, I am just too cheap to buy more, and too lazy to download more, in part because I have filled up the 30 GBs on my mp3 player. I'll listen to and enjoy other stuff similar to it and other genres that aren't up there, I just don't own that extra music.
I am, I have. Trust me.
I don't trust you hear, because that would mean that you have no life and you spend your whole time looking up new bands in the ever increasing world of music. No one could possibly make a claim like that, that was what I was trying to get across, but more subtly.
Crono T.
12-01-2007, 7:55 PM
Sublime is all I need.
:hail:
TheHighwaySong
12-01-2007, 8:30 PM
I can see how you would laugh at him for the with Teeth part, but Year Zero was a sick album...
Quite the contrary, I thought With Teeth was better than Year Zero. The promotion for Year Zero was pretty interesting though, with the USB drives in the bathrooms, and the soundwaves, and microwaving the disk to reveal some secret website, but the album (a concept album at that), just didn't do it for me.
And how dare you call yourself a NIN fan and say you like their most recent 2 albums. Go buy The Fragile and The Downward Spiral and take a good listen.
cass McNub
12-01-2007, 9:56 PM
can i just say system of a down?? gosh, i love them...
Chronon
12-02-2007, 7:40 AM
I hate them.
FAGGY MCFAGGER FAGGOTY FAG
12-02-2007, 8:44 AM
In somewhat random order:
1. Dragonforce
2. Audioslave
3. Hurriganes
4. Guns n' Roses
5. Scorpions
6. Ramones
7. System of a Down(/Serj Tankian)
8. Nightwish
9. Megadeth
10. Disturbed
11. Hanoi Rocks
12. Mötley Crue
13. Ismo Alanko/Hassisen Kone/Sielun Veljet
14. Rammstein
Only one thing comes to my mind now. It's damn hard to list favourite bands.
LindsayDee
12-02-2007, 9:20 AM
This is hard for a raver. D: But that's alright; I'll add my shitty music to the multitude and be justly teased.
1.) Smashing Pumpkins
2.) The Prodigy
3.) Beastie Boys
4.) Incubus
5.) Electric Six
6.) Scooter
7.) Pendulum
8.) Benny Benassi/ Benassi Bros.
9.) Freezepop
10.) Bloodhound Gang
11.) Bassnectar
12.) Daft Punk
13.) Gorillaz
14.) Kenna
15.) Royksopp
16.) Rage Against the Machine
17.) Gigi D'Agostino
18.) Glenn Miller Orchestra
19.) Doris Day.
20.) .....The Black Mages. Lawl.
I would've added hardcore to the list, but unless you live in the UK or select spots in the US, you either don't know it or absolutely hate it.
Ok. I'm going to go back to sleeps nao.
Ishabaal
12-02-2007, 10:06 AM
1.) Smashing Pumpkins
2.) The Prodigy
3.) Beastie Boys
4.) Incubus
5.) Electric Six
6.) Scooter
7.) Pendulum
8.) Benny Benassi/ Benassi Bros.
9.) Freezepop
10.) Bloodhound Gang
11.) Bassnectar
12.) Daft Punk
13.) Gorillaz
14.) Kenna
15.) Royksopp
16.) Rage Against the Machine
17.) Gigi D'Agostino
18.) Glenn Miller Orchestra
19.) Doris Day.
20.) .....The Black Mages. Lawl.
First off, "Lawl" I mean, come on.
Now to the bands, I like The Black Mages other than that and maybe Glenn Miller, I either hate your music or have little or no idea what one of the listed artist sounds like. But from what I know you listen to a lot of popular music, but not the good kind.
1. Dragonforce
2. Audioslave
3. Hurriganes
4. Guns n' Roses
5. Scorpions
6. Ramones
7. System of a Down(/Serj Tankian)
8. Nightwish
9. Megadeth
10. Disturbed
11. Hanoi Rocks
12. Mötley Crue
13. Ismo Alanko/Hassisen Kone/Sielun Veljet
14. Rammstein
Dragonforce, when did you start listening, before or after they got really popular, because that can really effect my judgement of your tastes. Other than that pretty standard tastes for a mainstream listener who thinks that they are not mainstream, or think they are a rebel in some way for listening to bands that sound rebellious.
Quadros
12-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Dragonforce, when did you start listening, before or after they got really popular, because that can really effect my judgement of your tastes.
I've been patiently waiting for you to post something that really encapsulates how fucking retarded your approach to music is. And here it is. You consider taste in music to be some kind of exclusive elite club that you have to earn membership to by having an 'unassailable' music taste. Not only do you have to like the right bands, but you have to like the right albums and the right songs for the right periods of time before it became too easy. What's hilarious is how hypocritical what comes next is;
Other than that pretty standard tastes for a mainstream listener who thinks that they are not mainstream, or think they are a rebel in some way for listening to bands that sound rebellious.
Yeah, you are exactly the same as Audioslave, except you're a METAL elitist arsehole. Which is kinda like saying 'no, my Ipod's unique and individual, because it's black.'
Ishabaal
12-02-2007, 11:50 AM
I've been patiently waiting for you to post something that really encapsulates how fucking retarded your approach to music is. And here it is. You consider taste in music to be some kind of exclusive elite club that you have to earn membership to by having an 'unassailable' music taste. Not only do you have to like the right bands, but you have to like the right albums and the right songs for the right periods of time before it became too easy. What's hilarious is how hypocritical what comes next is;
But what time you started listening is important are you someone who seeks out bands like this or simply listens to what MTV tells you to, so your point is invalid. Besides just because you don't like my tastes in music doesn't mean me tastes are "unassailable", in fact I know quite a few people who have almost identical tastes. So I guess once again a moot point. Also I'm not a metal elitist, if I understand your definition correctly, which would be someone who only listens to obscure metal. While I do listen to obscure stuff I enjoy sitting down with some Dragonforce or Nightwish evry once in a while, I mean I even enjoy Slayer. So I guess I'm not an elitist or have "unassailable" tastes. I do think however my description of that persons taste was right on(correct me if I'm wrong Yuzzi, not Quadros since its not your list.)
fernandopassion
12-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Quite the contrary, I thought With Teeth was better than Year Zero. The promotion for Year Zero was pretty interesting though, with the USB drives in the bathrooms, and the soundwaves, and microwaving the disk to reveal some secret website, but the album (a concept album at that), just didn't do it for me.
And how dare you call yourself a NIN fan and say you like their most recent 2 albums. Go buy The Fragile and The Downward Spiral and take a good listen.
I never said I didn't like any of his old stuff. One of my favorite songs is on The Fragile. I am just saying I really liked Year Zero and they way he played with all the sounds and such. I own almost every halo release there is except for maybe 3 of them
takesoffhat
12-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Ok, looking at your bands and then seeing you list Pink Floyd, Hendrix, and Zeppelin as decent makes me question you. I do not like Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd and Hendrix and like a little bit, but to call them decent???
They are some of the most talented and creative rock musicians every, and then you come and say that the pop punk band NoFX is better? That's the craziest shit I've seen in this thread, and trust me there has been some crazy shit in this thread.
The band members in Floyd, Hendrix and Zeppelin are probably all more talented than NoFX, but I like NoFX's music better. And they're definitely not pop punk. I didn't say that NoFX is better, I said I prefer their music. Can you deny that Mozart was a musical genius, probably more talented than any musician you like? No. You can't. But he's not one of your favourite musicians. Why? Because you don't like his music as much. I love classical music, and know that the majority of classical composers that I like are better musicians than most of my 20 favourite bands, but I just prefer the bands I listed.
Quadros
12-02-2007, 12:36 PM
But what time you started listening is important are you someone who seeks out bands like this or simply listens to what MTV tells you to, so your point is invalid. Besides just because you don't like my tastes in music doesn't mean me tastes are "unassailable", in fact I know quite a few people who have almost identical tastes. So I guess once again a moot point. Also I'm not a metal elitist, if I understand your definition correctly, which would be someone who only listens to obscure metal. While I do listen to obscure stuff I enjoy sitting down with some Dragonforce or Nightwish evry once in a while, I mean I even enjoy Slayer. So I guess I'm not an elitist or have "unassailable" tastes. I do think however my description of that persons taste was right on(correct me if I'm wrong Yuzzi, not Quadros since its not your list.)
The only thing I got from that grammatically irreverent pile of trash is that you don't know what "unassailable" actually means.
Let's go again, in simple english; Do you think that someone who heard of a band because they were supporting a band that's been on MTV has a more 'valid' taste and opinion in music than someone who heard of the band on MTV? Because that seems to be what you're saying, but I'm reluctant to really believe it because I don't honestly believe anyone's that fucking stupid.
Handel
12-02-2007, 12:46 PM
Favorite artist of the moment: Justice.
Oh my God, kudos to France for creating these guys. Do listen.
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