Election Night Discussion

[Rob]

Don't argue in this thread. We have two other threads for that.

Just discuss results as they come in, and speculate about how the night will unfold. Keep political issues out of here, it's too late to win anyone over so don't waste your breath. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

First polls coming in (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/): 6 in 10 voters say economy is their #1 issue, which is probably good for Obama.


Useful links for non-American terrorists and anyone else seeking online info:
Live coverage via CNN: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cnn-election-coverage
Live election results on Google: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/elections/index.html#2008_election
Some poll results or something: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/election-results-electora_n_139361.html

[Raxo]

This was posted in the other election thread.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/election-results-electora_n_139361.html

polls from various websites to keep you updated on results as they come in.

Tight numbers on the popular vote.

[Rob]

Early polls are showing Obama leads in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida, all three of the swing states he would need to virtually guarantee a win. This could be an early night.

edit: from that site anyway. I'm not sure if it means anything

[B33]

I found it odd how close Indiana was and how much McCain trampled Obama in Kentucky, eh?

[SODA]

If Obama wins Indiana I would say this election is over.

[SiX]

The polls from before the election showed that McCain had the slightest edge in Indiana, 1.4, but it still might go Obama.

So far it's indicating the way I saw it happening, an electoral landslide.

[Rob]

CNN has some incredible live statistical analysis. They compare each state's results by demographic and make connections to the '04 election.

No movie has glued me to my seat this well.

[OmfLobster?]

The first couple projections are in!

KY is projected to go McCain, to no big surprise, but what surprised me was the CLOSENESS of it. Yes, closeness is a word.

[Rob]

Closeness in Kentucky is an incredible thing for Obama.

[Fridge]

CNN has some incredible live statistical analysis. They compare each state's results by demographic and make connections to the '04 election.

No movie has glued me to my seat this well.

Yeh it's ridiculously exciting, I'm a journalism student, this is like crack for me.

OmfLobster: I know, the way things are going, McCain's not gonna last 2 hours

[Rob]

2004 KY results (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/KY/)

Bush won by a 60/40 margin in Kentucky. Now McCain wins 52 / 47 against a black candidate no less.

The Bradley effect is debunked imo, then again NOBODY liked Kerry.

[OmfLobster?]

Closeness in Kentucky is an incredible thing for Obama.

This is like seeing the monster for the first time in Cloverfield.

God DAMN this is going to be a good election.

[Niki]

Jesus christ, I am not going to be able to sleep tonight. I almost wish I hadn't payed this much attention to the election this year.

[Rob]

This is like seeing the monster for the first time in Cloverfield.


Except the monster is Obama and he's eating babies instead of New Yorkers.

Jesus christ, I am not going to be able to sleep tonight.

You may get to go to bed early actually depending on the next hour or so's results.

[Audioslave]

Ketucky and Vermont were secure. They're not exciting.

Indiana is closer than I expected. I guess it depends on what polls are coming in.

Watch Georgia, Virginia, and North Carolina. Now polls show McCain trampling Virginia by 10%, but only with 1% of polls reporting, probably rural ones.

HOLY SHIT! CNN HAS HOLOGRAMS!!!!!

[SODA]

While it's pretty obvious vermont would go to Obama anyway, I just hate when they predict states with 0% reporting.

[Audioslave]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=1

Everybody should make their own maps.

[Niki]

I hope so, I have to wake up at like 5 tomorrow.
I'm so nervous right now, I was completely fine throughout the campaigns but now I'm shaking.

[Rob]

CNN HOLOGRAMS OH MY GOD

[Raxo]

The big rally here in Chicago would turn into a riot if Obama would lose, but it looks like that won't happen.

[Stickperson]

Arizona is a toss-up state. Woo-hoo! If Obama can win Arizona this election is over for McCain.

[Audioslave]

CNN HOLOGRAMS OH MY GOD

MY SHIT HAS BEEN BLOWN.

[Rob]

"Help me Obama Wan, you're my only hope"

[Niki]

I'm not going to school if McCain wins. It'll be shoot a whitey day. :frown:

[SODA]

Here is my prediction, I really have a feeling Obama will carry georgia.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6506/predtf9.png

[Rob]

These commercials for this Battlelines show are reminding me why I hate CNN. Anderson Cooper diving with SHARKS to teach us about the environment.

[Audioslave]

http://i35.tinypic.com/sy5pg0.jpg

That's my prediction. Very optimistic. New Mexico and Colorado are two I'm probably going to be wrong on.

[Fridge]

75% turnout is pretty amazing too, goes to show what the massive amount of media coverage has done

[Rob]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3443/whaaos4.png

[Niki]

I like Rob's map.

He's an aaaaaaadmin. :hmm:.

But really, that would be great.

[Audioslave]

http://i34.tinypic.com/2eg9n68.jpg

This is a very pessimistic map, based on 2004 maps and the current polls. This would be a miracle, and it will still end in an Obama presidency (the House, which will be big-time Democratic, would choose the president.)

Sorry for going all John King on yer asses.

[Audioslave]

CBS just called West Virginia for McCain

Obama is leading North Carolina. That's big.

Florida is showing Obama way up. He's just behind in Indiana.

[CharlieH]

In everyones opinion, is CNN the best for me to be watching right now?

[Mr Anorexia]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3443/whaaos4.png
Ahahahahaha

[Tagman]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3443/whaaos4.png

So, Obama would win, right?

[Audioslave]

CBS just called South Carolina. What the hell? CNN or NBC haven't called either of CBS' picks.

EDIT: NBC called SC

[Niki]

I keep getting sad whenever they call a state but then I realize it's really just the south right now.
NO OFFENSE TO ANY SOUTHERN EXPLOSMERS THAT AREN'T RETARDED.

[Audioslave]

South Carolina was solid Republican anyway. West Virginia is only being called by CBS, but I suspect they're right. Again, no big loss. Georgia is a tiny shock, which I suspect they'll call for McCain soon.

[Chrisso]

Here come the closings.

Pennsylvania, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut, Maine, Delaware, New Hampshire, D.C., and Massachusetts to Obama!

103-34 now!

[Tagman]

I keep getting sad whenever they call a state but then I realize it's really just the south right now.
NO OFFENSE TO ANY SOUTHERN EXPLOSMERS THAT AREN'T RETARDED.

Don't worry, I live in Maine.

[Fridge]

Just heard Obama has pennsylvania and new hampshire. Things are getting heated

[Audioslave]

http://i37.tinypic.com/dvrosl.jpg
This is a terrifying scenario. If Florida goes Republican, I suspect Ohio and Pennsylvania will do the same. Call me crazy.

[Niki]

Oh dear, CBS has 81 for obama right now. That's nice.

[Chrisso]

Obama is ahead by 300,000 in Florida right now.

[Mr Anorexia]

Don't worry, I live in Maine.
So far we've got 3 votes for Obama.

[Audioslave]

NBC called Pennsylvania. 103 Obama. Holy shit, he might actually do it.

NBC actually has Texas in the toss-up pile. Obama won't get it, but the fact that its actually a toss-up is still amazing. They called Oklahoma in half a second.

[Fridge]

Imagine for a second if Obama actually won Texas, the world would collapse in on itself!

So apparantly McCain was relying on stealing New Hampshire.. Unlucky John!

[Tagman]

So far we've got 3 votes for Obama.

That's not many compared to the others. The again, it's still not that bad, if you're going for Obama.

Edit: But what do I know about politics? I'm just ridin' it out with Obama, I guess.

[Audioslave]

Understand that I don't believe what I'm about to say:

John McCain: 47%
Barack Obama: 52%

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE TEXAS.

[Tagman]

Understand that I don't believe what I'm about to say:

John McCain: 47%
Barack Obama: 52%

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE TEXAS.

Holy fucking plot twist.

[SODA]

Understand that I don't believe what I'm about to say:

John McCain: 47%
Barack Obama: 52%

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE TEXAS.

You need meds.

[Stickperson]

Let it be known now, I'm calling AZ for Obama.

77-34 so far.

Anyone notice how terrible Dole is doing? KARMA!

[Audioslave]

He's also looking hot in Ohio and Florida. I think he actually got it.

[El Travo]

Understand that I don't believe what I'm about to say:

John McCain: 47%
Barack Obama: 52%

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE TEXAS.

Are you fucking serious?

[Tagman]

I bet Palin is starting to tear up right about now.

[Fridge]

He's also looking hot in Ohio and Florida. I think he actually got it.

Yup i don't think there's much doubt about it any more, barring a major catastrophe.

EDIT: There's a Republican spokeswoman on ITV (England) now who's basically conceding defeat. Quote "Obama just simply outgunned us"

[Mr Anorexia]

That's not many compared to the others. The again, it's still not that bad, if you're going for Obama.

Edit: But what do I know about politics? I'm just ridin' it out with Obama, I guess.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/

Look at that to see which state is worth what.

Also, we have 4 in all, which isn't really that many but population wise we are a small state (less that 2 million) so it's about right.

And we are 1 of 2 states that don't pledge all of our electoral votes to one person (we don't go winner takes all), the other state being Nebraska.

[Audioslave]

Are you fucking serious?

No. Those are the poll results with only about half of the rural ridings and without a big Republican riding. These results include the two big Democratic centers.

Obama will not win Texas, but I think it might actually be as competitive as its been in many years.

[Rob]

Understand that I don't believe what I'm about to say:

John McCain: 47%
Barack Obama: 52%

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE TEXAS.

We interrupt election coverage for breaking weather news: hell has frozen over.

But seriously only 1% reporting so don't count on it.

[Audioslave]

Texas. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25381335)

There are some 'burbs around the major areas that could go Obama. I mean it's not impossible, just very very unlikely.

If you're watching Florida; keep your eyes on Tallahassee. This is one of the major contested areas in 2000; the area that could have won it for Gore.

[Tagman]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/

Look at that to see which state is worth what.

Also, we have 4 in all, which isn't really that many but population wise we are a small state (less that 2 million) so it's about right.

And we are 1 of 2 states that don't pledge all of our electoral votes to one person (we don't go winner takes all), the other state being Nebraska.

OK, thanks. And from what I see, McCain is pretty much screwed over for Maine then. That really doesn't bother me.

[B33]

The only reason he has Texas is because he has all the city area's.

[Audioslave]

They called New Hampshire. O-bama! O-bama!

This is actually pretty big. They're a renegade state, they've been the only North-Eastern state to go Republican in the past.

[Audioslave]

Kay Hagan (Athiest Lady!) is projected to crush her oppenent. Nice

Hagan is also going to beat Sununu. Two jerk-offs down...


EDIT: Texas has been called. Nader takes the state.

[Stickperson]

104-34.

And it looks like the senate goes to the democrats too.

Gee, Obama might be able to actually get something done.

[Lag]

They called New Hampshire. O-bama! O-bama!

This is actually pretty big. They're a renegade state, they've been the only North-Eastern state to go Republican in the past.

New Hampshire is a loose cannon who doesn't play by the rules.

[Audioslave]

Pennsylvania goes Obama!

Georgia goes McCain!

They actually suspected Georgia to go Blue, so this could be representative of a closer race than everybody thought.

[Tagman]

Pennsylvania goes Obama!

Georgia goes McCain!

They actually suspected Georgia to go Blue, so this could be representative of a closer race than everybody thought.

I hope not. I want Obama to win by a landslide.

[Audioslave]

I dunno. McCain is slightly ahead in the popular vote at the moment, and we haven't even hit the heartland yet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/usvotes/interactive-elex-results.html

My new favorite map. It's AP, has House and Senate on it, too.

Also shows how Nadar is doing. 3.8% in Maine, woot woot!

[CharlieH]

CNN just said this, and i quote: "Can't see a way foward for McCain now."

Premature?

[Tagman]

I want my area of Maine to show up already. I want to see the percents and shit.

[Stickperson]

CNN just said this, and i quote: "Can't see a way foward for McCain now."

Premature?

I don't think there's a way foward for either candidate.


However, I do agree. Pretty premature.

[Audioslave]

No. There was a grocey list of states McCain needed. They don't want to project it because it would be very, very unprofessional. The projection, for sure, is implied. McCain needs a miracle. A simulation of 10 000 possible scenarios put McCain winning 600 of them, and he needed the same 5 or 6 states in every one. Now that 2 or 3 have gone Obama; it looks bad for Johnny boy.

Also, check this (http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/11/04/robbins-vote.html) out. Makes me a bit nervous.

[CharlieH]

Aha, well. Looks like i can go to bed now then. :P

[Dodger]

Without Pennsylvania there's no way McCain can win.

[Audioslave]

I wonder how Al Franken will do. Hope he crushes the opposition.


McCain took North Dakota. That was a battleground. Hm...

[Tagman]

Without Pennsylvania there's no way McCain can win.

Well then I think this is pretty much wrapped up. I'm going to turn in for the night, and leave it for a surprise until morning.

[Chrisso]

175-70 Obama.

[Audioslave]

Obama took Minnesota.

Also; CNN just defeated racism. They showed there was no difference between those who said race was important and race was not important.

But apparently lots of people thought age was important.


Oh, and Texas is still too close to call.

[Intestiny Destiny]

If Virginia goes McCain, I'm going to be so ashamed.

[Audioslave]

If Virginia goes McCain, I'm going to be so ashamed.

I think it might go Democrat. There's still some areas not reporting, and they're generally connected to ridings that are going Democratic.

[notafan]

I wonder how Al Franken will do. Hope he crushes the opposition.

Last I heard he got crushed. But that resource may not be very reliable. Minnesota definitely doesn't need him right now so I hope he get's killed.

[Audioslave]

Polls going into the election showed him almost equal. Are his results coming in yet?

Georgia has gone McCain. He could still take Florida...ah...


To do anything, McCain first needs Texas. Areas in Texas that should be strong Republican are going Democrat. I was kidding earlier, but I mean...it's really close.

[Shmuh]

PRETTY SURE Obama pretty much won.
Obama's Electoral votes: 175
McCain's: 76

I'm not sure exactly how the Americunt system works, but I'll be damned if he doesn't win now.

[Mr Anorexia]

PRETTY SURE Obama pretty much won.
Obama's Electoral votes: 175
McCain's: 76

I'm not sure exactly how the Americunt system works, but I'll be damned if he doesn't win now.
There are still a lot of states that need to be counted.

[Chrisso]

Well, lots of big states are still yet to be done. Big ones include Florida, Texas, etc that are worth like 20+ each. They can still sway the presidency.

[Audioslave]

Ohio is big. Most of the contested states from 2004 have not reported in, and the ones that have went Republican.

If Ohio, Florida or (*drools*) Texas go for Obama; I'll call it for Obama. I think I'd call it for McCain if he takes all 3.

[Dodger]

PRETTY SURE Obama pretty much won.
Obama's Electoral votes: 175
McCain's: 76

I'm not sure exactly how the Americunt system works, but I'll be damned if he doesn't win now.

First to 270 wins.

[Idioteque]

I sure hope Obama wins, I'd hate to see Grant Park up in flames like it did in the 60's.

Even if I am a McCain supporter, riots suck.

[Infammo]

Well my state's a lost cause for McCain. No surprise there.

[Audioslave]

CNN; "I think we got a big projection coming up."

Florida? Ohio? TEXAS?!?!?

EDIT: Obama wins Ohio. He'll be the next president of THE WORLD

[Dodger]

Texas is going republican, there's no surprise in that.

Probably Florida, though with Obama taking Pennsylvania; I don't see how McCain can win.

[Stickperson]

CNN; "I think we got a big projection coming up."

Florida? Ohio? TEXAS?!?!?

EDIT: Obama wins Ohio. He'll be the next president of THE WORLD

I was thinking Texas. That's pretty big.

[Dodger]

NC, VA, and FL are almost all 50-50.

[Audioslave]

Texas is going republican, there's no surprise in that.

Probably Florida, though with Obama taking Pennsylvania; I don't see how McCain can win.

It's still 52-47. I mean it's so much closer than it should be. A lot of the ridings are reporting. Last year was only about 60-40, and exit polls say over half the voter's number 1 issue was the economy, and the majority of them went for Obama. If nothing, its symbolic of the conservative base of the country being chipped away.

[John Travolta]

There's no way Texas is going McCain.

[Audioslave]

By my count, only 9 tossups are still out there, with a combined total of 120 electoral votes, so that means....

OBAMA WINS!!!

[Dodger]

The republican party doesn't have a decent conservative to run.
They'll lose the next election because Mitt Romney will probably be the nominee and he's an idiot.

If they had a decent, actual conservative (as in original conservative ideals), they'd win.

oh and Ohio just went for Obama.

McCain lost, it's over.

[Christoffason]

BBC News has some pretty good and light hearted debates on the results as they come in. Looks like a landslide for Obama, which the BBC (and me) seem extremely glad of.

[Audioslave]

I think everybody knew this was coming, now the exciting thing to see will be the Senate and House numbers.

[Pieman]

CNN just showed a scenario where McCain could win. And I have to say, it's impossible. He has to win states that have no chance at voting for him.

Obamas won.

[B33]

He has 200. + 55 for CA.

He will win.

[Gambit36094]

It was easy to tell from the start, with Obama ruling the coasts, that he was most likely going to win. But nonetheless, this is pretty fun to cover.

[Raxo]

Saw the CNN scenario and it so impossible it hilarious. He has to be perfect the rest of the way.

Election over

Good job Obama.

Edit: I kinda wanted Obama to lose to see a riot in Grant Park

[Audioslave]

CNN just showed a scenario where McCain could win. And I have to say, it's impossible. He has to win states that have no chance at voting for him.

Obamas won.

That's basically what I was looking at. John King gave McCain some really unlikely states, though.

Imma gunna grab a beer.

[Dodger]

Also NC Senate race: Kay Hagan-D beat out the incumbent Elizabeth Dole-R (wife of former presidential candidate Bob Dole).

Funny because before a couple months ago, this was supposed to be a sure win for Dole.
Funnier still because it was Dole's own ad, that called Hagan an atheist, that put the final nail in the coffin.

Finally my state's going more blue.

[Stickperson]

What an amazing CNN scenario, he gave McCain states that definitely won't vote for him.

Now we just need to hope Obama doesn't get killed. But boy oh boy, I can't wait for the Inaugural Address.

[timbot]

It's funny the way they showed that thing on CNN just now. They've been doing that seriously for a couple weeks. "Here's how McCain can win" and it's the same impossible scenario. It always makes me think: either all this is rigged, or these people are just damn good analysts.

[Pieman]

It was essentially 'everyone goes McCain and noone goes Obama,' which I think would have humiliated McCain.

ALL HAIL BABY KILLER

[Gambit36094]

Were the early scenarios projecting certain states that McCain had to steal to win? Hasn't Obama grabbed most of them?

[Stickperson]

Also NC Senate race: Kay Hagan-D beat out the incumbent Elizabeth Dole-R (wife of former presidential candidate Bob Dole).

Funny because before a couple months ago, this was supposed to be a sure win for Dole.
Funnier still because it was Dole's own ad, that called Hagan an atheist, that put the final nail in the coffin.

Finally my state's going more blue.

Anyone notice how terrible Dole is doing? KARMA!

[Audioslave]

I'm going to be really bold here and call it for Mckinney, based on 100% of the crazy polls reporting.


But really, I think it might be a bit optimistic, but 375-163 is the number I'm getting. That is HUGE.

[timbot]

The early scenarios that I saw were not quite as dire as the one they just showed, but it was basically the same. "Obama will probably win this, this and this. Therefore, McCain must win every other state in the U.S."

Did anyone see the popular vote count? Very close right now. Time for another electoral college discussion?

[Dodger]

Haha I'm switching between CNN and Fox News, because I want to see what the Fox News dumbasses are going to say about Obama winning.

In the last 5 minutes that I've tuned in, They've called Obama an closet conservative (despite calling him a flaming liberal for the last 20 months), and are asking if there's any race close enough to demand a recount of.

Hahaha

[Audioslave]

The popular vote is including all the McCain states without including California. The popular vote will distort by a lot within the next hour or so.

Also, to continue with my crazy Texas ranting; San Antonio went Obama. This is a Republican city.

[Gambit36094]

The early scenarios that I saw were not quite as dire as the one they just showed, but it was basically the same. "Obama will probably win this, this and this. Therefore, McCain must win every other state in the U.S."

Did anyone see the popular vote count? Very close right now. Time for another electoral college discussion?

Remember, there are always faithless electors. Don't forget 2000.

[Dodger]

The early scenarios that I saw were not quite as dire as the one they just showed, but it was basically the same. "Obama will probably win this, this and this. Therefore, McCain must win every other state in the U.S."

Did anyone see the popular vote count? Very close right now. Time for another electoral college discussion?

I assure you by the end of the night, the popular count will be as drastically different as the electoral count.

This is no Gore-Bush election, this is a David-Goliath election; and Ohio and Pennsylvania were McCain's slingshot and stone.

[Audioslave]

Texas is called, my pipe dreams have ended. I still maintain that this is probably the most interesting state in the entire country. By God!

[Chrisso]

Texas went to McCain according to MSNBC.

[timbot]

I just want to see how Indiana goes. My mom has been telling me for months and months that I need to vote this year because it will really count. Of course I didn't listen to her, but it's cool to see my state as a battleground state for once.

[Idioteque]

Remember, there are always faithless electors. Don't forget 2000.

Doubtful. Obama supporters are some of the most fanatical in the world. He is going to have to really fuck up for that to happen again.

I'm just glad its a landside, even if its Obama winning. I really did not want a nailbiter here.

[timbot]

I love when they make projections and they show the precincts reporting and it says 0%. I know they're usually pretty right, but still.

[Gambit36094]

I believe that Ron Paul supporters are a little more crazy. They also seem to be the most conspiratorial.

I'm just irritated that my state can't break it's stupid chain of redness. The only time it voted Democrat was for Clinton.

[Chrisso]

That Florida gap is really tightening up.

[timbot]

Texas went to McCain according to MSNBC.

CNN is still undecided, but I haven't seen the numbers on it.

[Audioslave]

Texas is McCain. The narrow gap slipped, the last major Democratic area has been called and there are still several Republican areas. Still, it could be within 10 points. That's amazing.

New Mexico is for Obama. All aboard the landslide train! Woo-woo!

[Intestiny Destiny]

Virginia and North Carolina should be ending a little bit and it's still 50/50 with a 1% edge to Obama. It doesn't really matter much by now but it'd be nice to contribute to the landslide.

[Quadros]

Holy fuck, 207-135 and they haven't even hit california yet. You guys really hate conservatives now, huh?

[Dodger]

No that rap music just really hit us, now we hate white people.

[Audioslave]

I'm calling Indiana for Obama. Judging by the reporting polls in the different areas; Obama is going to squeak it out by 1 or 2 percent.

[timbot]

Holy fuck, 207-135 and they haven't even hit california yet. You guys really hate conservatives now, huh?

Where did that number come from? CNN says 207-95. Oh, but they still haven't called Texas.

[Intestiny Destiny]

Anyone think Obama has a good 50/50 shot to get Arizona?

[Dodger]

I'm calling Indiana for Obama. Judging by the reporting polls in the different areas; Obama is going to squeak it out by 1 or 2 percent.

If it's that close, they might recount it; And that might last a couple of days if it's really down to the wire.
That's what they did for Florida in 00 and Ohio in 04.

Won't change anything.

Anyone think Obama has a good 50/50 shot to get Arizona?


They're calling it too close to call, I think.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/363/McCain_Home.JPG

[Audioslave]

CNN is being very, very conservative on who where they're calling. They don't want another 2000. CBS is just throwin around states like 50 Cent throws around $100 bills.

Mississippi could go Obama. McCain has a commanding lead, but the states that are not reporting are very interesting ones.

[timbot]

If it's that close, they might recount it; And that might last a couple of days if it's really down to the wire.
That's what they did for Florida in 00 and Ohio in 04.

Won't change anything.

Or maybe it will be like in the primaries (I think it was the primaries, my memory sucks) where Indiana couldn't get their shit straightened out forever.

[Stickperson]

It's over, Obama has it in the bag. I think CNN will have a prediction for president overall within the hour.

[Tempest]

Did Ron Paul win yet?

[Quadros]

Where did that number come from? CNN says 207-95. Oh, but they still haven't called Texas.

BBC news. Which gets it's information from corroboration of several american press exit polls.

[Dodger]

Exit polls aren't always accurate, you really shouldn't trust those.

Or at least base your entire prediction just on those.

[timbot]

CNN is being very, very conservative on who where they're calling. They don't want another 2000. CBS is just throwin around states like 50 Cent throws around $100 bills.

Mississippi could go Obama. McCain has a commanding lead, but the states that are not reporting are very interesting ones.

At first I thought you meant they were being very conservative as in Republican.
But yes, they're not really calling anything unless they're pretty sure about it. Though, some they call immediately after the polls close. I don't understand that exactly. I'm sure they just know more about how states vote than I do.
Damn that Wolf Blitzer is smart.

[Intestiny Destiny]

They're calling it too close to call, I think.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/363/McCain_Home.JPG

It'd be a nice slap in the face.

[Dodger]

I think Alaska would be much sweeter.

[Audioslave]

If it's that close, they might recount it; And that might last a couple of days if it's really down to the wire.
That's what they did for Florida in 00 and Ohio in 04.

Won't change anything.

Florida could have won it fore Gore. Ohio + another state could have won it for Kerry (a full recount never went through in Ohio)

McCain won't do it, he'll just look really bitter.

[timbot]

Alaska would be damn funny.

[Pieman]

I know we already knew this, but wow Bush fucked over McCain pretty bad. According to CNN, 70% of the people who disliked Bush voted Obama. I say this was a huge factor.

[Intestiny Destiny]

Originally posted by TheKelfouranWoah.

[Bayview05]

It would have been interesting to see how this election would have turned out without Bush dragging McCain down. To tell the truth, I wouldn't be surprised at all if McCain won if Bush wasn't there.

[Tempest]

Trust me even if McCain didn't have Palin he would win Alaska. I don't think a Democrat has EVER won Alaska.

[timbot]

CNN--Two McCain aides see no path to victory. He's throwing in the towel soon.

[Bayview05]

Trust me even if McCain didn't have Palin he would win Alaska. I don't think a Democrat has EVER won Alaska.

Lyndon B. Johnson won it back in 1964.

[Dodger]

Ahahahaha they're not telling the people at the McCain victory rally that Obama won Pennsylvania or Ohio. Ahahaha, that's funny.

Lyndon B. Johnson won it back in 1964.
Ugh, I'm ashamed to be in the same party as that guy.

[Koots Klone]

Who is California going to vote for?

[TheKelfouran]

Wait. What'd I say?

[Intestiny Destiny]

Oh wrong thread.

[timbot]

Who is California going to vote for?

McCain might pull it off.
HAHAHAHAHA I crack me up.

[Tempest]

Who is California going to vote for?

Obama. Pretty much a guaranteed.

[Dodger]

The only other thing I'm worried about is Propostion 8 in California.

If passed, it'd make gay marriage illegal, and as many pundits have said "As California goes, so goes the country" at least on social issues.
If that gets passed it pretty cements homophobia in America, which I consider just as dumb as racism and sexism in terms of prejudice.
I hope it gets defeated.

[Audioslave]

It will. I sincerely think it will.

I really want to see if they legalize prostitution in San Fransisco.

[Quadros]

Exit polls aren't always accurate, you really shouldn't trust those.

Or at least base your entire prediction just on those.

It's the only info we have at the moment. The actual counting will take weeks.

[Dodger]

It's the only info we have at the moment. The actual counting will take weeks.

Doesn't really matter I guess, every poll has Obama winning.

[Bayview05]

Whoops, shit post apparently. Condensed: Homophobia is as bad as racism or sexism.

[Audioslave]

No. The counting is what's coming in. The exit polls are available immediately and that's not what they base the projections on.

Also: FRANKEN IS WINNING! HAHA!


Bayview; shut the fuck up.

[Audioslave]

MORE HOLOGRAMS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[timbot]

I don't want to get off on a big tangent here, but I think the whole gay marriage issue is pretty interesting. I also think (or at least hope) that' there's more to it than just homophobia. And at a time when divorce is so high and lots of people are thinking it's just not worth it to get married, I think it's interesting that marriage rights are the center of a big issue.

[Quadros]

No. The counting is what's coming in. The exit polls are available immediately and that's not what they base the projections on.

Also: FRANKEN IS WINNING! HAHA!


Bayview; shut the fuck up.

you think all the votes cast in america have been corroborated and counted in the last 3 hours or so? Pull the other one.

[Bayview05]

Awwww what's the problem Audioslave? :hmm:

[Audioslave]

you think all the votes cast in america have been corroborated and counted in the last 3 hours or so? Pull the other one.


Most voting in America is done electronically, they are saved onto memory cards and put into machines. The process is incredibly fast. How else could they start a recount the day after the election?

[timbot]

MORE HOLOGRAMS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I'm just waiting for a Delorian (sp?) to appear from nowhere in the CNN studio, because they are obviously in the future.

[Audioslave]

I'm just waiting for a Delorian (sp?) to appear from nowhere in the CNN studio, because they are obviously in the future.

ahah.


I think its funny how shitty lookin FoxNews' crap is compared to CNN. Fauxnews has Karl Rove, CNN HAS FUCKING HOLOGRAMS.

[Dodger]

Holy Shit, my district in the House of Representative went Democrat!
Holy shit yes.

They've been republican forever, they finally chose Kissell over Hayes (at least that's what CNN projects).
Probably because Hayes said "Liberals hate America" a week before election.
Anyway this is awesome.

[timbot]

I don't get Fox News over here. Sometimes I wish I did just for a little variety.

[Audioslave]

SHIT! Indecision 2008 is on! I'm missing it!

[timbot]

I don't have Comedy Central either :wail:

[NVM]

CNN is awesome, I'm surprised I chose them over Comedy Central.
(Stephen Colbert is surprisingly just being sad, while the british actually is turning out to be the funniest)
Obama stormed my state(PA) which is no surprise, but I'm glad he also took my home state(OH) considering the way they voted in the past.
And I also find it funny how Arizona is still shaky despite it being McCain's turf.

[Audioslave]

I'm calling Florida for Obama. Most of the Republican counties are reporting, less of the Democratic ones are.

[Pieman]

Indecision 2008 happens tommorow in Australia, making it useless :wail:

[Bayview05]

I don't get Fox News over here. Sometimes I wish I did just for a little variety.

You should be thankful you didn't, or you might be inclined to go into spasms of rage once The O'Reilly Factor comes on. If you didn't grow up with it, you would probably be able to handle the huge amounts of shit they come up with.

[Pieman]

WILL.I.AM VIA HOLOGRAM HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

[Allen]

Even if McCain wins everything except California, Washington, and Oregon (which he won't win anyway), he still loses.

[Dodger]

The O'Reilly Factor is funny.

I like how O'Reilly bitches about the dumbest shit.

[timbot]

Pieman beat me to it. Beam me up Scotty!
But what was that crazy little wiggle he did at the end?

[Audioslave]

I'm sayin' Missoura goes McCain.

[Allen]

Holograms are fucking ballin'.

[Audioslave]

I missed the Black Eye'd Hologram.

[Bayview05]

The O'Reilly Factor is funny.

I like how O'Reilly bitches about the dumbest shit.

It is humorous at times, but on the otherhand, his extreme idiocy and self-imposed superiority are infuriating.

[B33]

It is humorous at times, but on the otherhand, his extreme idiocy and self-imposed superiority are infuriating.

Read his book.

It is so funny. This guy is such a dumbass

[Pieman]

Woo! Australia on CNN!

I should totally be at school right now studying for my school certificate. But even if I fail, I won't regret anything... HOLOGRAMS FUCK YEAH!

[Raxo]

Obama killed in my state (Illinois)

hahaha the people at the McCain rally look so sad and disappointed.

[NVM]

People are bitching about their holograms.
Apparently the set can't see him like that, and they just filmed him from 4 angles.

[Tempest]

Massachusetts decriminalized marijuana.

[Dodger]

Read his book.

It is so funny. This guy is such a dumbass

Though I enjoy his retarded rants, I refuse to give that asshole my money by buying his books.

Also Virginia went for Obama. Like it really matters anymore.

AND OBAMA IS THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE USA!!!

[Audioslave]

It's totally official. CNN just called it.


I'm still blown away. I really didn't think he could do it up until a few days ago. Holy shit.

[Pieman]

CNN says Obama is the President. Awaiting speech, but cumming buckets.

EDIT: Damn, Audio beat me.

[javaD]

There! Obama is president :P

[NVM]

Fuck yes, black prez.

[Dodger]

Massachusetts decriminalized marijuana.

That's pretty fucking awesome.

All quantities or just small quantities?
It's gonna force other states to do so, because so many will flock there.

[Tempest]

Obama wins.

[Pieman]

139-297. Fucking raped McCain.

[Chrisso]

yay

[Bayview05]

CNN just projected Obama president. 297 to 139 Obama.

[Allen]

It's fucking over! Imma listen to Billie Jean and do a victory dance!

[Audioslave]

297 sounds like a low estimate. I worked it out to get 364.

[bizzle]

Congratulations America!

[Dodger]

Hahahaha Fox News is arguing that Barack Obama isn't really black.
I know he's bi-racial, but the way they're going on about it you'd think he was Greg Brady.

[Bayview05]

Well, now we can only hope that Obama doesn't fuck up in office.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm so happy right now.

[LaPhBu]

Serious not here, not racist note. How long til the first assassination attempt on the president? I don't mean the old ones I mean the ones now that he IS in power.

[Audioslave]

That is such a stupid fucking argument. He'll be well protected, and an assassination is not inevitable. More likely, perhaps, but I'm sure precautions will be taken.

[bizzle]

America wont have a black president. He'll be taken out before he takes office.

(I'm not threatening that American gov't - I'm just calling it. )

[Tempest]

An attempt is almost sure to happen, but come the fuck on, he's the nation's first black president. He is going to have like quadruple security on him.

[Dodger]

He's got his homeboys to back him up.

[Werty]

An attempt is almost sure to happen, but come the fuck on, he's the nation's first black president. He is going to have like quadruple security on him.

I'm sure he's already aware of what he's going to have to protect himself against. He didn't get this far by being naive. He's going to take more than enough precautions to protect himself.

[Raxo]

Next up the first Mexican president.

[Audioslave]

Google has Obama at 324. I say 367, account for Montana going to Obama.

This is amazing. I don't think any Democrat has won by this much in the past 40 or 50 years.

[Dodger]

Next up the first Mexican president.
Well, if you insist.
Dodger in 2036!

[Bayview05]

McCains about to speak...he's going to be shattered. :doublefin

306 to 145 O.

[Raxo]

Oh shit Rev. Jesse Jackson is crying like big baby

[NVM]

America wont have a black president. He'll be taken out before he takes office.

(I'm not threatening that American gov't - I'm just calling it. )

People tried to get kill the shit out of Bush.

[Pieman]

McCains taking this better than I thought, at least publicly.

[Bayview05]

McCain is fighting back tears. :lol:

And Raxo, since when does the Emperor of Black People cry?

[Chrisso]

those jesse jackson shots were pretty powerful tbh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/lobotomysurvivor/obama-combo.jpg

[LaPhBu]

He's got his homeboys to back him up.

Holy shit, I immediately thought of Dwayne's backup when you said this.

On topic: In history class we were talking about this, and my teacher said if we (Canadians) were allowed to vote in this election Obama would have 85% of Canada's votes. But looks like he doesn't need 'em anyway.

[Riddlebox]

Hey guys, remember when Souldrinker said this wouldn't happen?

[Bayview05]

Wow, McCain just admitted "the failure is mine." I guess he really couldn't convince people Obama was Muslim.

Edit: Damn, these people keep booing McCain even though he concedes, I think that's pretty cold.

[bizzle]

An attempt is almost sure to happen, but come the fuck on, he's the nation's first black president. He is going to have like quadruple security on him.

True, but I wouldn't underestimate all the really smart people who want him gone and even more so all the really stupid people who want him gone. He can't spend all his time in a glass bubble.

I don't want him dead - far from it. But I don't doubt that there are people who really really really want him to be dead at any cost and I don't think martyrdom is quite dead.

I'm seriously super stoked for you guys though. Congratulations on your new future government. I hope he accomplishes at least half of the things he promised.

You hit a milestone, I seriously underestimated the American Public but happy and proud you guys chose to swing a little further to the left and you know overcome that whole racism thing.

[Riddlebox]

Are black jokes acceptable now?

[Raxo]

those jesse jackson shots were pretty powerful tbh


Yeah they kinda made me feel how important this election was.

[Audioslave]

Hey guys, remember when Souldrinker said this wouldn't happen?

I said it wouldn't either. I thought the one million people stricken from the voter rolls would do it for Obama; I was wrong. I underestimated the American public.

[Pieman]

Wow, McCain just admitted "the failure is mine." I guess he really couldn't convince people Obama was Muslim.

Edit: Damn, these people keep booing McCain even though he concedes, I think that's pretty cold.

If you're talking about Obama in that edit, they weren't booing McCain. They were booing Obama while McCain was complimenting them.

[BKS]

If you're talking about Obama in that edit, they weren't booing McCain. They were booing Obama while McCain was complimenting them.


This.


As much of an Obamist I am, I feel like McCain's speech was damn fine, and gave me a new found respect for the man.

[timbot]

Are black jokes acceptable now?
Can I make black jokes and then say "No, it's totally cool, my President's black"?

[Bayview05]

If you're talking about Obama in that edit, they weren't booing McCain. They were booing Obama while McCain was complimenting them.

Sorry, misconception. Fuck. That's cold anyway.

And BKS summed up my feelings for McCain now, as well.



As much of an Obamist I am, I feel like McCain's speech was damn fine, and gave me a new found respect for the man.

[Pieman]

Can I make black jokes and then say "No, it's totally cool, my President's black"?

You can if Obama pulls out the "You're all my family" line.

As for them booing Obama, their side just lost the presidential election, they're bound to be pissed.

[Riddlebox]

these people should put their differences aside now the elections over, Obama's president, get used to it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[NVM]

This.


As much of an Obamist I am, I feel like McCain's speech was damn fine, and gave me a new found respect for the man.

Me too.

And you know what the funny thing is?
More than 9/11 and our shitty war. I feel like this is the most history making moment my generation has seen for this country.

[Bayview05]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

About who should be president, jackass! Not political differences!

[Dodger]

I feel kinda bad knowing that at the time that this historical moment took place, I was sitting in my room in my boxers, eating junk food and playing on the internet.

Well come to think of it, that's about as American as you can get.

[Riddlebox]

I know but it's like you were saying that American's are just going to put politics aside and not be bitter.:roffle:

EDIT: stop editing your posts before I can make fun of them :(

[Rob]

McCain's speech made me tear up a little. What an amazing speech.

[Bayview05]

Sorry I wasn't clear enough :lol:

EDIT: But do you respect him any more than you did, Rob?

[Stickperson]

I missed the speech, anyone know of any links yet?

I'm just glad Obama won, I'm still pulling for Arizona.

[Dodger]

McCain's speech made me tear up a little. What an amazing speech.

It really was. If he had spent more time with speeches like that, instead of just attacking Obama, things could've been very different right now.

EDIT: I always liked McCain. He just became a complete right wing asshole during his campaign. I'm glad to see that he's gone back to his decent ways now that he's lost.

[Audioslave]

I missed the speech, anyone know of any links yet?

I'm just glad Obama won, I'm still pulling for Arizona.

Be proud that one county went 13.3% for McKinney. Holy shit!

[Intestiny Destiny]

And Audioslave, there were no stolen elections this time.

[Infammo]

McCain's speech made me tear up a little. What an amazing speech.

Yeah. You're officially a woman for tearing up, but I have to admit that McCain was a much more graceful loser than I expected. After all he's been fighting tooth and nail to get into office.

[Riddlebox]

Those last McCain political attack ads were brutal.

Too late though.

[Raxo]

Kinda made me sad watching the speech because McCain seemed more human and more likable than any other speech. Made me forget about his attacks on Obama.

Such a good loser.

[Audioslave]

And Audioslave, there were no stolen elections this time.

I addressed this. One million people were stricken from the voter rolls. Obama just kicked too much ass.

[Riddlebox]

Hooray first time voters!

[1zabest]

Amazing how I paid more attention to the US Election than any Australian election

[The Fetus]

Anyone buy the BS that we're all gonna be poor now?