Assassin's Creed 2 [Archive] - The Explosm Fora

Chips

04-25-2009, 1:57 PM

Well it was officially announced a little while ago that Assassin's Creed 2 is making its way onto our consoles. Not that we didn't get the hint from both the ending of Assassin's Creed 1 or the teaser trailer popping up recently.

Not a whole load can be gathered from the video, but IGN made it their mission to unravel some of the clues hidden within it. Some obvious, some not so obvious.

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They then followed up with something a little more informative:

US, April 15, 2009 - This month's issue of Game Informer sports a rather dramatic pose by the new leading man of Assassin's Creed II, Ezio Auditore de Firenze, but it's what's inside that's truly interesting. Having listened to the cries of needless repetition besmirching what was an otherwise rather impressive debut for a new IP (it's apparently the fastest-growing new gaming franchise in history), Ubisoft is adding quite a bit more depth to the Renaissance Italy-based sequel.

The ample amount of historical documentation about the smattering of city-states, infighting merchant families and the corrupt religious figures of the time make for plenty of ties to real-life events, but perhaps none are as promising as the inclusion of Leonardo da Vinci and all his wonderful toys (Game Informer likens him to Bond's gadget buddy Q). Among many of da Vinci's inventions that will feature in the game is his legendary flying machine, which is perhaps more of a glider than anything else, as he'll be kept aloft with warm air currents rising off Ezio's allies during a particular mission.

With Venice's network of aquatic channels (yep, there's swimming now) and densely-packed buildings, Ezio's ability to ditch enemies has naturally been magnified, and to help balance that out, Ubisoft has bumped up the types of enemy units, which will grow more aggressive and skilled as the game goes on, including being able to tail you with the same now-infamous parkour moves from the first game. Other enemies will be advanced melee attackers or will poke into hiding spots (which have likewise increased in variety).

The increase in variety hasn't just been restricted to the cities and waterways, though; outside the cities, Ubisoft is populating the countryside with more to do, including the ability to string together missions that will take you from Venice to Florence and the more rural areas in between, tied together with a stronger narrative thread. Promises of missions being stacked back-to-back -- about 200 in all -- abound, as do mentions of the different types of missions one can undertake. Because Ubisoft Montreal is being careful to mix things up, they're also claiming that the side missions can essentially be taken on in any order, and stretching from the city into the countryside and back.

With all the changes to the scenery and main character (Ezio is a far more affluent and cultured protagonist than Altair was in the first game), it's not really terribly surprising that Ubisoft Montreal also amped up the combat. Weapons can now be ripped from an enemy and used against them, but Ezio doesn't carry a sword with him at all times, meaning improvisation and getting the drop on enemies is more important this time around. To assist in this, he can fight bare-handed if need be, stripping enemies of their weapons or simply opting to whittle down their numbers and make a break for it.

All this fighting will lead to Ezio becoming rather notorious in whatever city he's causing a ruckus, and though he can make a break for it (with white sheets indicating key routes of traversal), it's smarter to just undertake missions to lower his notoriety, which will drive down the presence of suspicious guards (though Ezio can now blend in with any crowd rather than just monks if the situation calls for it). Tearing down posters, taking out witnesses or paying them off were all mentioned as viable ways to keep the heat off you .

The full feature is on stands now, and is rather loaded with new tidbits. It's set to be seen sometime near the end of this year and will be released apparently on Xbox360, PlayStation 3, PC as well as Nintendo Wii (which I'm slightly skeptical about).

Anyone else who finished the first game will agree that some questions need some answers and hopefully Assassin's Creed 2 will give us just that, if not a small insight into what the hell is going on.

I recently went through and played it again for kicks (and for some achievements) and found myself getting hyped up again for the sequel. A lot of people had their own interpretations with the images and writings left on the walls of Abstergo in the first game and some have some good evidence to back it up. There's a blog here (SPOILERS) (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175552)that helps explain some of the confusion most had at the ending of the first game.

Anyone else excited for this game? Only gripes I had with the first was how little reward you got from doing the extra mission informants. Fair enough it gave you some clues in how to go about a successful assassination, but not enough considering the running around you had to do (fucking drunks pushing me into alert guards :argh:).

Apart from that, I enjoyed almost every moment of it (side from some frustrating 20 on 1 battles) and hope they only add to the great game play they started with.

Also check out this little picture of our new leading man, Ezio:

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5911/951077-ezio_super.png

Someone's lookin' sexy :heya:

WoeStorm

04-25-2009, 3:10 PM

Boy, he'll sure blend in with the crowd.

I'm psyched for this game, what I want are some trailers of people being stabbed in the face. I always thought that Altair couldn't swim because his weapons weighed him down. I'm also interested in how they'll work in the firearms that were mentioned in the trailer.

Also, wings?

Dexide

04-25-2009, 3:10 PM

This game looks to be cool. I loved Assassin's Creed, and this game looks just as great with some cool extra features. I'm a little bit confused about the Wii release too, though, I bet it'll be something like Force Unleashed on the Wii, not as big a game as it will be on the other consoles.

Ezio's costume cooler than Altair's.

El Zilcho

04-25-2009, 3:29 PM

I'm finding it hard to hide my erection for this game. It looks amazing.
The first game was awesome but had some flaws, but I think they can only improve for this game.

Matterialize

04-25-2009, 3:33 PM

Also, wings?

DaVinci's flying machine.

SourChicken

04-25-2009, 3:55 PM

Does he have two wrist stabby things?

That's pretty sexy.

Happydude

04-25-2009, 4:02 PM

I really hope Ubisoft doesn't try to make Ezio do unnessicary flips (starwars-esk) with those wrist shanks... But I'm definately buying that when it comes out.

BKS

04-25-2009, 5:20 PM

This makes me want to buy a used copy of the first one and play it through. I havent even played it and Im getting excited for this. Fuckk.

DoctorButt

04-25-2009, 5:47 PM

I loved the first and all but was pissed you couldn't fucking swim just like the GTA games. And Ezio looks pretty gay.

rapist

04-25-2009, 6:05 PM

Here's to hoping they don't fuck this one up with mind numbing repetitiveness.

Matterialize

04-25-2009, 7:59 PM

Know what would be awesome in this? Multiplayer. An every-man-for-himself CTF mode, or a race mode or something. Running through the cities and across rooftops, avoiding guards, etc.

Chips

04-26-2009, 3:22 AM

Know what would be awesome in this? Multiplayer. An every-man-for-himself CTF mode, or a race mode or something. Running through the cities and across rooftops, avoiding guards, etc.

I was thinking the exact same thing the other day while I was doing an assassination. It would be cool to do like a race to kill the target first type thing. Or kill as many guards/targets within a time limit.

A parkour race would be fucking cool as well.

They said that the new lead character will be a lot more refined in personality than Altair's arrogant one. I hope he's not some snobby bastard.

The wings thing I'm really curious about. One of my theories was that maybe DaVinci will play a role as an ally; therefore aiding you with new gadgets and weapons as you progress. I haven't put a whole load of thought into that one though so don't attack me for it.

This makes me want to buy a used copy of the first one and play it through. I havent even played it and Im getting excited for this. Fuckk.

It should be really cheap now a days. Definitely grab it if you can. You'll probably get a bit of a shock if you haven't read anything about it or seen anything from it before you play it.

BreakTheWalls

04-26-2009, 6:54 AM

You think those annoying beggars will return? I fucking hated them.

"Have you got any money? I'm poor and sick and hungry!"

If I ever played that game now (heh, unlikely. Got all the points and there's no replay value) I'd just knife them all. Sod the guards, they're easy prey too.

Chips

04-26-2009, 7:04 AM

I had fun getting that 'Enemy of the poor' achievement, tossing beggars into merchant stands and off walls.

Those damn lunatics and drunks were more annoying. I've had a few times I've failed an almost perfect assassination because one of them pushes me into a guard and sends everyone bat shit crazy.

WoeStorm

04-26-2009, 7:32 AM

I always had fun getting in fistfights with like 6 guys. The guards don't care about fistfights as long as they're fighting back.

junglebunny

04-26-2009, 9:31 AM

The new guy looks like a faggot.

I_Smell

04-26-2009, 5:33 PM

I think he just looks the same as the old guy.

Rudeboy

04-26-2009, 6:04 PM

Wow, they would make his shirt sort of open, crazy Italians...
I'm pretty excited for this, I loved the first one, aside from the horrible final boss fight.
I just got this image of Ezio jumping off of a building and spreading his arms, making some crazy Buzz Lightyear wings snap out, allowing him to glide into a pile of hay
Sweeeeet

CanadaEh

04-26-2009, 7:37 PM

I.Can't.Wait.

LaPhBu

04-26-2009, 8:23 PM

Neither.Can.I. u r stoopid lolol

I loved the first one, because of the cinematic esque fighting. I could anger off 20 guards and fight them all all day long. :hmm:

Chips

04-27-2009, 2:38 AM

I actually got sick of fighting guards like that. I hope they add a more 'Prince of Persia' style fighting with more acrobatics and flair considering you know they have the talent, they're freakin' assassins.

Though since Ezio doesn't carry a sword like Altair did and will be disarming guards of their own to use, I can see some more interesting fights. Looking forward to these so called guards that can mimic your acrobatic rooftop skills.

junglebunny

04-27-2009, 9:15 AM

I think he just looks the same as the old guy.

I liked the old costume because it was realitvely simple (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/assassins-creed.jpg). They just took the old design and made all kinds of intricate details so it doesn't have the same appeal to me. Like someone else said, it's going to be much harder to blend into the crowd.

Chips

04-27-2009, 1:22 PM

Well apparently your able to blend into almost any crowd according to the article. Maybe different costumes or something is available, no idea. It kind of looks like he has a cloak over one shoulder so maybe that will cover you.

Pachycephelosaurus

04-27-2009, 2:21 PM

Well it's not like your guy was all that inconspicuous in the last one. He stood out then too. What ever happened to suspension of disbelief?

BreakTheWalls

04-27-2009, 3:08 PM

Well it's not like your guy was all that inconspicuous in the last one. He stood out then too. What ever happened to suspension of disbelief?

That was thrown out of the window since the beginning. You could kill anyone in front of a big crowd if guards weren't directly there as long as you pray walked along the crowd running away in fear.

Nemmukat

04-27-2009, 3:38 PM

BKS

04-27-2009, 4:04 PM

Well it's not like your guy was all that inconspicuous in the last one. He stood out then too. What ever happened to suspension of disbelief?

Isn't he going to be in Rennisaince Italy? Didn't they wear that kinda shit back then?

Profane Methane

04-27-2009, 4:37 PM

I liked the game for the first few plays, then it just got repetitive and stupid. I felt like dousing myself in oil and setting myself alight at this point.
They better remove the stupid repetition of mission types or I'm not buying that hunk of shit.

Dauntasa

04-27-2009, 5:42 PM

I really hope that they let you have a gun. I found the lack of ranged weapons kind of annoying in the first game. I mean, you had throwing knives, but if you had a crossbow(WHICH WAS IN THE GODDAMNED TRAILER) then the whole thing could have been set up better. Instead of every enemy going down to a face-stab(which is cool the first couple of times, but boring afterwards), there could have been more variety. Like in the trailer, when he shoots someone with a crossbow at close range and then falls back on the face-stabbing. Plus, killing someone with a loud, hearty boom is more satisfying than shanking them in the back. And shooting them in the head comes with the added bonus of making sure that they can't talk for ten minutes afterward.

Chips

04-28-2009, 12:15 AM

Can't wait for this one. 1 was awesome. Even though it left it on a really FUCKING annoying cliffhanger. And i was expecting a free play or something.
I also hope he has more leet parkour skills for us to scale buildings faster.

It's the first part of a trilogy, of course it was going to end that way. Plus you do get free play. Just sit in the animus and you can play any memory again. And if you mean't just run around and shit then you just choose the second last memory where you have all your equipment and go nuts.

And shooting them in the head comes with the added bonus of making sure that they can't talk for ten minutes afterward.

:lol:

I found that pretty funny. Especially in one of them where you go to assassinate that Templar Knight dude and it turns out to be a chick but you let her go. I just stabbed the bitch in the neck, how the fuck did she just walk away?

Also Prof, they said there's like 200 side missions this time but hopefully they listened to people's comments and made them different and interesting.

LaPhBu

04-28-2009, 12:31 AM

You mean instead of steal, interrogate or listen?

Pachycephelosaurus

04-28-2009, 1:32 AM

Isn't he going to be in Rennisaince Italy? Didn't they wear that kinda shit back then?

http://z.about.com/d/arthistory/1/0/F/F/realleo_04.jpg

I don't really care. I'm playing a game where I plug a fucking computer into my fucking brain and fucking jump on top of buildings while shooting fucking knives out of my fucking fingers. Who am I to complain that I stand out in a crowd?

Dauntasa

04-28-2009, 1:54 AM

He will probably stand out in a crowd, but no one will call him on it. If I were an Italian peasant, the last thing I'd want to do would be to anger the scary man who gives out hugs which make people fall down.

Chips

04-28-2009, 5:27 AM

Looking a bit ahead here but remember the whole 'bleeding' condition that Desmond contracted at the end of the first game that allowed you to use eagle vision? I'm hoping that by the third or maybe briefly in the second that you get to play in the future as a present day assassin with skills that 'bleed' over.

Also anyone else think that maybe you play as a previous test subject to Desmond? Maybe Subject 16 (the one that flipped the fuck out and wrote all those clues in blood on the walls in Abstergo)? I'm psyched to find out.

Nemmukat

04-28-2009, 7:01 AM

I knew it was a trilogy, but i was still annoyed by the ending. In my opinion it was very short, i finished it in about 3 days, and was hoping for more.

BKS

04-28-2009, 9:18 AM

Shitttt, Im gonna go buy this now.

He will probably stand out in a crowd, but no one will call him on it. If I were an Italian peasant, the last thing I'd want to do would be to anger the scary man who gives out hugs which make people fall down.

Even the peasants dressed nice. Everyone gets hugs.

thebat

04-28-2009, 10:30 AM

Hahah, hugs that make people fall down.
But dead ass, as awesome as the last game was, it was repetitive, I hope this one allows for a bit more than your basic "find a flag, kill a guy, kill another guy, run away, use the same weapons, use the same combos, congratulations you just beat the game after 24 of the same shit over and over again"

Once again, don't get me wrong, game was bad ass...
Just became a bit too repetitive for me.

CanadaEh

06-01-2009, 3:36 PM

http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/assassins-creed-2-trailer-extendido

New trailer from E3 I believe, looks badass.

Dauntasa

06-01-2009, 11:04 PM

http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/assassins-creed-2-trailer-extendido

New trailer from E3 I believe, looks badass.

Wow. That bit at the end with the gun was awesome.

EDIT: Were those two women at the start hookers? 'Cause they looked like hookers.

SODA

06-02-2009, 10:37 AM

I'm thinking there will be alot more focus on stealth and less focus on blending in the time around, because the protagonist doesn't look anything like anyone else.

Also you probably will be able to hire hookers to distract people.

Petey2112

06-02-2009, 11:36 AM

Yeah, this is so far just looking like plain ol' Assassins Creed, just with a few more cool things. Hopefully I'm wrong though, I want this game to be good.

TheGodfather

06-02-2009, 3:19 PM

The demo at E3 made this game look fantastic, however, even though it looks so so so amazing, I can't help but think it will still be,talk, eavesdrop, pickpocket, kill, over and over again.

Smokeyy90

06-02-2009, 3:40 PM

The demo at E3 made this game look fantastic, however, even though it looks so so so amazing, I can't help but think it will still be,talk, eavesdrop, pickpocket, kill, over and over again.

I certainly hope its not. The developer guy seemed like he was trying to avoid the repetitiveness of the first game. I really hope thats what they try and do. With that said the game looks amazing to say the very least.

TheGodfather

06-02-2009, 3:43 PM

I certainly hope its not. The developer guy seemed like he was trying to avoid the repetitiveness of the first game. I really hope thats what they try and do. With that said the game looks amazing to say the very least.

It would be a shame if they couldn't shift from it, but that double face stab was cool, and the flying machine was really good looking too.

Smokeyy90

06-02-2009, 3:45 PM

It would be a shame if they couldn't shift from it, but that double face stab was cool, and the flying machine was really good looking too.

Yeah I loved the crowd's reaction when that guy pulled off the double stab. The combat looks similiar but atleast you can swim and fight bare handed now.

TheGodfather

06-02-2009, 3:50 PM

Yeah I loved the crowd's reaction when that guy pulled off the double stab. The combat looks similiar but atleast you can swim and fight bare handed now.

I loved the guys accent though, I couldn't understand a word he said. I also love how the main character wears the same clothes as his great great great great grandad who lived in Asia or where ever. Coincydink? I think not!

Smokeyy90

06-02-2009, 3:52 PM

I loved the guys accent though, I couldn't understand a word he said. I also love how the main character wears the same clothes as his great great great great grandad who lived in Asia or where ever. Coincydink? I think not!

Should be interesting to say the least. I know that this is the 2nd game of three Assassin's Creed games that Ubisoft is going to make.

Assassin

06-04-2009, 1:04 PM

I hyped as fuck over the first game and loved it and I'm going to hype as fuck over this game and I'll love it.

deadchild90

06-04-2009, 6:39 PM

November 17th is gonna be an awesome day in gaming, modern warfare 2, left 4 dead 2, and this on the same day. Can't wait to do some double face stabs myself.

Buskie

06-06-2009, 9:28 PM

opn4bzns

06-06-2009, 9:46 PM

DubiousCow

06-06-2009, 9:54 PM

They're portraying the Renaissance era of Venice, I believe. But yeah, I hope this won't be as repetitive and boring as the last one became after six minutes.

WoeStorm

06-06-2009, 10:10 PM

Hopefully they took in some of the comments, stuff like the ability to poison food mabeh, instead of just leaving a hole in some guys face.
Yeah thats pretty fun for a while, but I wanna see a guy choke on some goddamn fucking salad D:<
Or goddamn fucking red meat MANLY!
And I never really got the whole clasping hands makes you all innocent.
Theres a dead body on the ground and your the only guy around with a bigass fucking sword by your side yet the guards are still bamboozled.
If you played through the game you would know that you look a bit like the priests, and it looks like you're praying when you clasp your hands. There's even a cutscene where a priest gets killed on suspicion of him being the assassin.

Chips

06-06-2009, 10:54 PM

The complete lack of gameplay footage is a bit of a worry, but the first game was pretty good, so hopefully this will improve on that. More variety makes it sound like Hitman: Medieval Venice, which would be amazing.

They've got gameplay footage. Pretty sure it's been around for a while now.

Here's one long one with commentary that shows off pretty much everything.

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EDIT: Looks like I was right about DaVinci being your gadget making helper dude.

opn4bzns

06-06-2009, 11:27 PM

They've got gameplay footage. Pretty sure it's been around for a while now.

Here's one long one with commentary that shows off pretty much everything.

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EDIT: Looks like I was right about DaVinci being your gadget making helper dude.

I take back what I said about the lack of gameplay footage, that looks fantastic. I think I'll go reinstall the first one.

Dauntasa

06-06-2009, 11:29 PM

That guy only talked for like five seconds after he died. Awesome.

Werty

06-06-2009, 11:42 PM

Just preordered it. I figure hey, if I already beat the first no use in not beating the second.

Chips

06-06-2009, 11:57 PM

I'm really interested with something they hinted at in a video or article (can't remember which) where apparently you do a lot more exploring with Desmond outside of the Animus than you did in the first game.

I'm really keen to see if you get to sneak around and explore Abstergo a lot more. Those parts really had me wanting to play more and figure out all the clues and trying to find out whats really going on. I like the whole conspiracy things in games and this one had me hooked.

I'm hoping Assassins Creed 3 is almost completely set in Desmond's time, but with the assassin mechanic implemented and not just wandering around. I think a lot of people wouldn't like that though.

Smokeyy90

06-07-2009, 12:55 AM

I'm hoping Assassins Creed 3 is almost completely set in Desmond's time, but with the assassin mechanic implemented and not just wandering around. I think a lot of people wouldn't like that though.

I would be all for it. When I figured out that they would be doing 3 games I kind of assumed that they would gradually get more modern. Granted a leap from 2 to a modern 3 would not be as gradual but I would so play that shit. I figured the Animus would help Desmond tap into his inner assassin and be a bad ass! The game comes out later this year correct?

elchileno74

10-20-2009, 1:07 AM

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New Video of AC2 (Same one from the Videos of Upcoming Threads)

elchileno74

10-23-2009, 5:59 PM

I liked the old costume because it was realitvely simple (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/assassins-creed.jpg). They just took the old design and made all kinds of intricate details so it doesn't have the same appeal to me. Like someone else said, it's going to be much harder to blend into the crowd.

Yes, but he is an Italian Noble. Ubisoft probably changed the costume to a more upper class version considering his status. Though I do agree with you on the blending. The designers have probably made away around it though.

Chocoholic

10-25-2009, 2:52 AM

I would be all for it. When I figured out that they would be doing 3 games I kind of assumed that they would gradually get more modern. Granted a leap from 2 to a modern 3 would not be as gradual but I would so play that shit. I figured the Animus would help Desmond tap into his inner assassin and be a bad ass! The game comes out later this year correct?

There's actually been some rumors the the third game might be set around/in World War II but I'm really not sure how that would fit in with the rest of the games. I'm treating this as a major rumor right now.

I'm not getting this game. I never even beat the first one because you did the exact same shit the entire game. After I killed about 3 guys I was pretty much done playing.

I might give this a try though. One of my friends is probably going to get it because he's a huge history nerd. I can probably convince him to let me borrow it for a couple of days.

Sieda

10-27-2009, 2:55 AM

I watched my roommate play through the original game. It was pretty badass, but the repetitiveness, and the stupid nonsensical ending really soured the experience for me.

Still, there aren't too many games that take place in Renaissance Italy, and hopefully they'll try and hammer out the flaws of the original.

OneBand

10-27-2009, 7:51 AM

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2kbLBuSOg

New video called Lineage. Part 1. It's really fucking awesome. They should really make a movie based on Assasin's Creed during the Renaissance era.

Pencil

10-27-2009, 11:48 AM

I love the new setting so much more than the old one.

john41martin21

10-27-2009, 12:03 PM

Ok so i watched Lineage, thought it was cool. I don't understand why they made it, i mean, that money could be put into the game.

LandMarkMoon

10-27-2009, 1:00 PM

There's actually been some rumors the the third game might be set around/in World War II but I'm really not sure how that would fit in with the rest of the games. I'm treating this as a major rumor right now.

I'm not getting this game. I never even beat the first one because you did the exact same shit the entire game. After I killed about 3 guys I was pretty much done playing.

I might give this a try though. One of my friends is probably going to get it because he's a huge history nerd. I can probably convince him to let me borrow it for a couple of days.

Exactly the reason that it is sitting next to banjoe kazooie in the never touched this game, pile.

This one better be 30+ hours. As soon as I head to EB to get my bro a 250 gig slim I'm going to pre-order this or MWF2.

Momanmomananam

10-29-2009, 9:56 AM

I think I'm going to be preordering this game with some weird deal they're having at GameStop. Trade in 2 eligible games and you can get some of the newer AAA titles coming out for only $20. I'm trading in Skate 2 and buying a copy of L4D from my friend so I can use that (He has L4D for PC also, so he doesn't need it). Although, so he doesn't get in on the deal I told him I'm going a vacation soon and that I would like to borrow it to have something to play...:smile:

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 12:41 AM

Momanmomananam

10-30-2009, 1:47 AM

Those deals are usually shit. They often have you trading in games that are fairly new and still being sold for $60 and then making you pay an extra $20 on top of that.

Usually. But I'm trading in Skate 2, which I could care less about, and L4D. I payed 20$ for Left 4 Dead, and I got Skate 2 for Christmas with my XBox last year. So I'll pay 20 for L4D, and 20 for the game. Still saving $20 on Assassin's Creed II. Worth it enough for me, I suppose.

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 1:51 AM

I just don't like giving those assholes at Gamestop my games. They're like "Oh here's $10 for this brand new game" and then turn right around and sell it for like $55.

Momanmomananam

10-30-2009, 2:00 AM

I just don't like giving those assholes at Gamestop my games. They're like "Oh here's $10 for this brand new game" and then turn right around and sell it for like $55.

So true. That's probably the reason that I've kept any of the PS2 games that I have the slightest bit of interest in replaying. It's not worth giving up some old favorite games of mine for 2 dollars a piece. I'd rather keep them, if only for nostalgia's sake. Any of the other ones I traded in and got a good chunk of money for. Not surprising considering I turned in 25+ games, but still. I remember the guy at the counter telling me for a few games that I was getting 25 cents or less. Slap a sticker on it and sell it for 12x the price it was before! I suppose it's more of a loss with newer titles being traded in, though.

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 2:30 AM

So true. That's probably the reason that I've kept any of the PS2 games that I have the slightest bit of interest in replaying. It's not worth giving up some old favorite games of mine for 2 dollars a piece. I'd rather keep them, if only for nostalgia's sake. Any of the other ones I traded in and got a good chunk of money for. Not surprising considering I turned in 25+ games, but still. I remember the guy at the counter telling me for a few games that I was getting 25 cents or less. Slap a sticker on it and sell it for 12x the price it was before! I suppose it's more of a loss with newer titles being traded in, though.

If you have a large amount of games to sell that you know you'll never play again it's ok. My brother and I did this once and ended up getting about $120. I would never trade in a 360 game though.

I still don't have much faith in this game though, to tell the truth. I have a feeling they'll have added a lot more things but you'll end up doing them all 1,000 times again.

Momanmomananam

10-30-2009, 9:04 AM

If you have a large amount of games to sell that you know you'll never play again it's ok. My brother and I did this once and ended up getting about $120. I would never trade in a 360 game though.

I still don't have much faith in this game though, to tell the truth. I have a feeling they'll have added a lot more things but you'll end up doing them all 1,000 times again.

I trust Ubisoft. I loved Assassins Creed and I think they will do a great job on this one. The repetition in the first game got old, but Ubisoft has promised all of that to be gone. I think that with all the new content and playstyles they offer, lots of the same thing (asssassinations, etc.) may play out differently. I certainly hope so, anyway.

BKS

10-30-2009, 10:25 AM

My favorite quote from Gamestop:

"Honestly dude, keep the game. Use it as a coaster. The trade in value is roughly 14 cents. It's bullshit, but you're better off using the game for something other than this."

LandMarkMoon

10-30-2009, 12:22 PM

True, but then again trade in value depends on the game.

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 1:39 PM

Yeah. But the game that got me the most money was the shitty Spyro PS2 game. I got 5 whole dollars for that.

LandMarkMoon

10-30-2009, 1:42 PM

What the fuck, how the hell is that possible.
No wonder the Wii is making so much off of garbage. Resale value for shitty kid games must be insane.

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 1:46 PM

I actually think that's it. I think the other game that got us about $5 was that shitty Crash Bandicoot game for PS2.

LandMarkMoon

10-30-2009, 1:51 PM

Very impressive, I'm taking your initial advice and not selling any. Will keep the collection anyway. Doubt 10-15 bucks will cut anything off the fact that I'm getting another slim (250g) and a couple of games.

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 1:58 PM

Unless you abosolutely hated a game and never plan on ever playing it again, or are getting the games from other people like the other guy it's really not worth it at all. I can't remember what game it was but I remember the list of games they would approve for this deal was ridiculous. It think it might have been Resident Evil 5, which released in March, and they were asking for games like Left 4 Dead and Call of Duty: WaW which both released in November.

LandMarkMoon

10-30-2009, 2:02 PM

So any two of those, and you pay an extra $20 and you get Assassin's Crack?

Chocoholic

10-30-2009, 2:08 PM

Momanmomananam

10-30-2009, 6:32 PM

Yeah. That's how it works. You're basically getting $20 for each game.

I can't find the list of games Gamestop would be accepting for this deal but expect them to be games released within the last few months.

The link was in the magazine thingy I got.
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/specialty/tradeins/tradeoffer/Default.aspx
You might find it worth it for a few games. There are some that are a year+ old. Uncharted is under the PS3 category. That's gotta be a few years old by now. It's only worth it for me because I have Left 4 Dead for PC and I know I'm done with Skate 2. You might be kinda surprised. It's a damn big list of PS3, 360, and Wii games.

LandMarkMoon

10-30-2009, 7:12 PM

Left for Dead 1, since 2 is coming out and CoD WaW for Assassin's creed/MW2, sounds like a bargain.

Chocoholic

10-31-2009, 12:07 PM

Some of them aren't too bad. I think the oldest game on that list is MW or Saints Row 2.

But some of them are fucking ridiculous. Guitar Hero 5?! Didn't that come out a month ago? And Lips with 2 fucking wireless mics? Wouldn't that alone be worth at least $60?

If I see anyone trading in stuff like this I think I'll slap them.

LandMarkMoon

10-31-2009, 12:29 PM

With a 6 foot dildo tbh. Unless you really are retarded trading in those games makes no sense unless they are laying around as dead weight. Think they'd take my MW1 it has circular scratches from when my xbox ate it, only map you can't play is that boat fragfest one.

B3n

11-03-2009, 4:24 PM

I cannot fucking wait for this game. I've been waiting for it since I started playing the first. Assassin's Creed was just such a great idea, and it was very playable.

elchileno74

11-14-2009, 7:50 PM

Does anyone know what happened with the whole multiplayer live thing? Did they abandon that?

Though you probably could add in online capabilities similar to how they did with the Challenges in Arkham Asylum. Like, kill the target in the fastest amount of time with the least amount of people noticing.

Chocoholic

11-14-2009, 10:36 PM

I'm pretty sure the game won't have any multiplayer. I have yet to see anything about it and the game is coming out fairly soon. I think they got rid of it so they could really focus on single player which is a really smart move.

LandMarkMoon

11-17-2009, 9:54 AM

Werty

11-17-2009, 1:46 PM

Your review gave it a 9.2. How does that blow?

LandMarkMoon

11-17-2009, 1:51 PM

Two separate links. One explaining the German website's complaints and Ubisoft's demands. The other giving IGN's review.

That is how.

SODA

11-17-2009, 6:47 PM

This game is going to blow apparently, it came out today in Canada, it's selling at the gamestop near my house, yet, no review:

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-424948.aspx

Video Review:

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14302493/assassins-creed-2/videos/ac2_vdr_111709.html

Based on the actual gameplay in the video I would say this game is 9.0+ material. The original was an amazing game that was stopped short by some bad design decisions. This one looks to have addressed nearly all of them and looks like a definite buy for most people.

BAN ME PLEASE

11-17-2009, 7:00 PM

Based on the actual gameplay in the video I would say this game is 9.0+ material. The original was an amazing game that was stopped short by some bad design decisions. This one looks to have addressed nearly all of them and looks like a definite buy for most people.

The first game was boring and tedious.

SODA

11-17-2009, 7:03 PM

The first game was boring and tedious.

No, it wasn't. The replaying of the same 6 quests over and over again was boring and tedious. The actual assassining and story were great.

Mmk

11-17-2009, 10:34 PM

I just got it and I love it. Has a lot of cool stuff the first one didn't and got rid
of some of the gay stuff from the first one.

Contrary to what has been said, this is pretty different from the first one.

algizzz

11-18-2009, 1:20 PM

this game is the cooles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Arthenon

11-18-2009, 1:22 PM

Got it yesterday, good so far, definitely changed what was bad with the first one. Did anyone else here get the special edition? The box for it was a hell of a lot bigger then I thought it would be be. Though the little statue is pretty cool.

Mmk

11-18-2009, 10:20 PM

This one goes way more advanced then the first one with the shops and people you can hire. I love it.

john41martin21

11-18-2009, 10:32 PM

Can someone answer me this. did they fix the repetitiveness at all?

Me buying the game basically rests on that unltimatium.

LandMarkMoon

11-18-2009, 10:42 PM

elchileno74

11-19-2009, 4:51 AM

Just wondering, am I the only one who has trouble with actually assassinating with the hidden blade? It took me about 3 minutes to find out how to kill the guy harassing Leonardo properly.

Arthenon

11-19-2009, 1:48 PM

How much did it cost you Art?
It only cost $80, so about $20 more and it comes with an extra disc filled with behind the scenes stuff, the soundtrack and a bit more that I haven't really looked at too deeply, and art book and, the coolest thing in my opinion and why I chose it, an 8.5" statue of Ezio.

Can someone answer me this. did they fix the repetitiveness at all?

Me buying the game basically rests on that unltimatium.
Yes, they did. Some of the missions are the same, like eavesdropping, but the first time I did it it took me through catacombs underground and figuring out a whole bunch of puzzles to get to them and then it was an actual cutscene for the eavesdrop. Quite better then the first one.

And assassination isn't hard, just the double assassination is kicking my ass. That and the hiding spot assassination. And I found one thing that bugs me so far, no ability to crouch down.

CanadaEh

11-19-2009, 6:14 PM

Well, just beat it and I see a lot of people getting pissed at the ending but I liked it, can't wait for AC3.

I think a lot of people are interested in what happens at the end and they don't really want to play the whole thing so basically...

Your main rival becomes the pope near the end of the game to get closer to a piece of eden (which is the popes scepter) and a place called "The Vault" that is hidden inside the Vatican. Ezio then uses his piece of eden (an apple) to fight him and eventually kick his ass but not kill him. Combining the two pieces of eden makes the vault door open which leads to this room with some god-like creatures that explain the world will end if Desmond does not find all these sanctuarys built all around the world (Hints to 2012). The big WTF moment is that the god-like creature is talking to Ezio but mentions Desmond must save the world. Desmond is then released from the animus with all of Ezios abilitys, kills some templars, but the main scientist from the first game escapes then boom black screen and credits. Hope I explained nicely.

SourChicken

11-19-2009, 6:31 PM

Just played a bit at my friend's house. Not that impressed.

Pros:
Nice graphics, pretty fluid controls, combat is pretty fun. Nice contrast between Ezio and Altaiir or whatever. Also, stabbing two dudes in the face at the same time is awesome.

Cons: "Pretty" fluid controls. If you don't push the stick at just the right angle, Ezio hurtles off of a six story brothel into the streets below, arm outstretched, hoping maybe, just maybe, he can grab a windowsill. The combat is fun for awhile, but "wait for bad guy to raise sword above his head then press x really fast" gets old faster than you can shove your thumb up your ass and fart. Also, fucking minstrels are almost more annoying than those fucking beggars in the last game.

Trashcat

11-19-2009, 6:33 PM

Try playing around more with the combat, SourChicken. Disarming is really fun, as is just going batshit on enemies and whaling on them. You don't have to use counters at all -- personally, I make a game of it. I do a lot of running up walls and disarming and sudden hidden blading.

Jumba

11-19-2009, 7:52 PM

I always loved the first one, it was so epic with all the tactical thinking and ESPECIALLY the timing of the counter's. But boo that I don't have a good enough computer to even play it. ): Friends and their computers. :)

Blueblobb

11-20-2009, 12:49 AM

So I'm just taking my time with the Creed and I can say that so far, the game is excellent. The tasks given to you to accomplish in the game aren't too repetitive as they usually have a different back story and part of the city to enter. What's happened from the movement of the first game to the second game is improvement really. The things found in the first game have gotten better and more varied, save for Viewpoints. Sometimes climbing towers is fun, but when you do it 66 times? Otherwise, all the new weapons and armor are great along with the bad ass combat.

I'm loving it.

Momanmomananam

11-24-2009, 10:57 PM

I've been playing this game for the past few days, since Friday. When compared to the first game, it's such a massive improvement and it actually really makes you realize how repetitive it was. The game no longer follows the formula of "Do X amount of menial tasks and learn information that's usually out of context if you missed one cutscene. Then assassinate some guy for reasons that you forgot why."

Another thing I love is that they added instanced parts of the game. Meaning that certain missions put you in areas (Like the example above, in catacombs, or infiltrating a mansion) just for that mission. This makes the open-worldness not feel lazy, but still be present.

The combat can be done plenty of different ways, and there are new enemy types besides just Archer, Swordsman, Templar. The gameplay is much more satisfying than the first. I'm still finding new ways to kill people.

I'm also going for 100% completion and not just to say that I have. I really feel motivated to. The story is present in almost everything you do. This is probably my favorite part because I love to feel like I'm doing things for a reason.

The RPG elements include things like upgrading armor, financial investments, buying weapons, repairing armor, dying clothes, etc. The game's number of weapons is much higher than AC1.

tl;dr - Holy fuck, buy this game.

2Fast2Handle

11-29-2009, 11:39 AM

I'm buying it tommorow maybe with mw2, this sounds like a pretty fuckin' good christmas this year...

ProzacKid

11-30-2009, 2:32 AM

I played the hell out of Assassins Creed 2 and beat it in a few nights. I really enjoyed it and it never really got boring. At the end I felt robbed though because a few of the side plots seemed to just end abrubtly. The ending was trippy as hell.

DrSpacemann

12-01-2009, 5:20 PM

For those of you who have the game already (and beat it), is it a good game to buy or better left for a rental?

NVM

12-01-2009, 8:55 PM

I fucking fell in love with this game and didnt really like the first.

Nightshade

12-01-2009, 8:56 PM

For those of you who have the game already (and beat it), is it a good game to buy or better left for a rental?

I say it depends on what you wanna do. If you just want to beat the game and that is it, then rent it. But, if you going to go for 100% completion then you want to buy the game.

Great game by the way, can not wait till the next one. My favorite way to kill two guards would have to be to poison one and watch him kill the other one or the double air assassination.

El Zilcho

12-01-2009, 9:37 PM

I'm with this game. I've been playing it since it came out and I still have yet to find a flaw with it. If it weren't for MW2, I would totally say this would be up for game of the year.

kel555222

12-02-2009, 1:33 AM

DLC has been announced.

http://kotaku.com/5416419/assassins-creed-ii-dlc-raises-questions-possibly-fills-gaps

I can't wait. After finishing the game completely I need something else to keep playing.

Relaps

12-04-2009, 11:07 AM

Mmk

12-05-2009, 10:11 PM

I beat this awhile ago and I'm really didn't like the ending. But besides that the game was excellent.

Has anyone collected all the feathers? I want to know if the last cape that it unlocks is even worth it.

Anyone who is wondering if you should get it or not. GET IT! It is way better then the first and way less repetitive. I'll probably buy the add-on since I have nothing left in the game to do besides the feathers.

Relaps

12-06-2009, 12:25 AM

The ending is perfect in my opinion. It's a total tease but God Damn, finding out why Ezio is the prophet and then when shit gets real just totally sets the third one to be great.

elchileno74

12-06-2009, 2:57 AM

Just beat it myself. I absolutely loved it, great atmosphere, gameplay and the whole prophet thing playing out the way it did in the vault, and solving the glyphs to get to the truth kind of freaked me out a bit. Was really trippy, hate to do that shit on drugs.

Fantastic game, and extremely well thought through and clever.

I hated the truth bit where Adam and Eve escaped from that place, where they were making the apple. And if it was so futuristic, why didn't they have clothes? and the ending, confused the shit out of me, just like the first one did.

Relaps

12-06-2009, 12:13 PM

I hated the truth bit where Adam and Eve escaped from that place, where they were making the apple. And if it was so futuristic, why didn't they have clothes? and the ending, confused the shit out of me, just like the first one did.

Well, they kind of did, it was like a synthetic skin suit. I dunno, they were a slave race used by the ones who came before anyway, created in their image. Only a handful of them took pity and thats where the Gods came from, like Jupiter/Zeus. The ending really means that shit is literally gonna get real.

Werty

12-06-2009, 3:24 PM

Wow this game sounds amazing. I can only hope the #3 is just as good and new as this one is.

Mmk

12-06-2009, 10:20 PM

I guess, but still not one I was hoping for.

So what do you guys think about the next one? Will it be in the animus like the others or in the present?

elchileno74

12-08-2009, 6:39 AM

I think it would be a kind of mixture of being in the animus and the present with the bleeding effect being used a lot. Though knowing me, I'm probably wrong.

SourChicken

12-09-2009, 7:56 PM

LaughBoo

12-10-2009, 4:11 PM

Really really liked this game. Some things I don't understand:

What the fuck was that shit with Altair? Was he just planting his seed in that one chick?

Also, were the people who came before or whatever aliens? Because that's kind of a cop out if the bad guys are aliens. If they're even bad guys. I don't really get it.

It is there to show how the heritage moved from The Holy Land to Italy, and explained in greater detail in AC : Bloodlines

And the people who came before are what it says. They are "people" who came before humanity, they created us in there image, ergo they are what we could call our gods. Adam and Eve stole the Apple of Eden, which holds great power. They were able to escape and started humanity as we know it.

SourChicken

12-10-2009, 5:32 PM

Ooooooh.
So that's why I knife people in the throat.

Doubleagent

12-10-2009, 6:56 PM

This made me want to get an Xbox 360.

LandMarkMoon

12-10-2009, 7:58 PM

You do know it is multiplat?

elchileno74

12-11-2009, 7:34 PM

Does anyone know if feathers show up on treasure maps?

SourChicken

12-12-2009, 6:08 PM

I'm not even sure what the hell collecting all the feathers do.

elchileno74

12-13-2009, 10:33 PM

If you get 50, you get a new weapon, and if you get 100 you get the Audiatore Cape.

Sieda

12-14-2009, 2:46 AM

Just rented and beat this game over the weekend.

Loads better than the first one. I can't wait for the 3rd, but hopefully it will be the last. A series kind of goes downhill once you reach "Assassin's Creed 6+"

Ooooooh.
So that's why I knife people in the throat.

You knife people in the throat because they want to use the"pre-human" advanced technology to subjugate and control humanity in the name of 'peace'. Wheras the assassin's want peace, but through free-will. Same goal, different means.

SourChicken

12-14-2009, 8:41 PM

I DON'T CARE I WANT MORE KNIVES TO THROW AT DRUNKARDS

CuntMuppet

12-15-2009, 8:52 AM

I'm borrowing this off a friend at the moment, it's fantastic. I'm so glad it's not as repetitive as the first, and I think i'm close to finishing the main story but there's still so many side missions left for me to do. The RPG elements are awesome and really added to it, and since there's 2 bits of DLC announced already I think it's something i'll definitely be picking up for Christmas. Definite contender for game of the year in my opinion