View Full Version : Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver
Urser
05-07-2009, 11:28 PM
http://ca.c.yimg.jp/news/20090508100017/img.news.yahoo.co.jp/images/20090508/oric/20090507-00000019-oric-ent-view-000.jpg
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html
I can't read it. But it's official, Pokemon Gold and Silver are being remade. :hmm:
So who's getting this? Who wants to but won't? Who thinks this is a desperate grab for cash by Nintendo?
mactroll
05-07-2009, 11:33 PM
Looks pretty, I don't think I'd buy it though, I kinda outgrew pokemon a while back.
Who thinks this is a desperate grab for cash by Nintendo?
*Raises hand*
Tweek
05-07-2009, 11:36 PM
I don't understand, what is the point of them being remade if not only for the cash?
I'll probably get them, or one of them, anyway.
Heart Gold and Soul Silver sound pretty :hmm:
Kurby
05-08-2009, 12:07 AM
its true they do sound pretty
i remember spending countless hours playing gold version on my gameboy color good times
DubiousCow
05-08-2009, 1:14 AM
Yeah, I can't wait to choose from three Pokemon, battle a rival and also gym leaders for x amount of badges and then finally beat the Elite Four once again! All in the same places I did it 10 years ago!
Crabstick
05-08-2009, 4:52 AM
Yeah, I can't wait to choose from three Pokemon, battle a rival and also gym leaders for x amount of badges and then finally beat the Elite Four once again! All in the same places I did it 10 years ago!
Yep that sure is how Pokemon works. Thanks for pointing it out to all of us.
I'm in two minds - on one side, I'd like to think I'm past my Pokemon phase. On the other side, holy shit they sound so pretty :hmm:
Ercoledi
05-08-2009, 6:06 AM
Heart and Soul?
Colours, jewels, and now intangible concepts?
TheHighwaySong
05-08-2009, 6:28 AM
GSC was the best series and if you don't think so fuck you.
I'm eating this shit up. :hmm:
CharlieH
05-08-2009, 6:43 AM
This has to stop, right now. I'm sick to the back teeth of Nintendo. Cash grabbing bastards.
Well it's bound to be a good game so what's the problem? GSC was the most immersive Pokemon game by far. After defeating the Elite Four, you could travel to Kanto and basically play the whole original game through. And if Fire Red/Leaf Green are anything to go by, they'll also add tons on new content and maybe even more places to explore. Snazzy.
Fruitality
05-08-2009, 6:53 AM
Aw man, I wonder if it would be worth buying a DS for this.
Ercoledi
05-08-2009, 6:57 AM
Wikipedia says it's coming out in Japan in Autumn (Spring here in the Southern Hemisphere) this year, and it seems that there's about a 6 month gap between Japan and overseas releases. I guess you could wait the year to see if the price drops (the DS can only go down since the DSi came out).
Or, you could buy one now. They're pretty cool toys.
CharlieH
05-08-2009, 7:00 AM
Well it's bound to be a good game so what's the problem? GSC was the most immersive Pokemon game by far. After defeating the Elite Four, you could travel to Kanto and basically play the whole original game through. And if Fire Red/Leaf Green are anything to go by, they'll also add tons on new content and maybe even more places to explore. Snazzy.
I wasn't denying the undeniable quality of RBY and GSC, but this is just going too far.
Tyler_Legrand
05-08-2009, 8:07 AM
Huh. The English says "Pokemon", though the Japanese says "Pocket Monster".
I never knew that.
LaPhBu
05-08-2009, 8:11 AM
Really? I just thought Pokemon was short for Pocket Monsters, much like Digimon and Digital Monsters.
Antisaint
05-08-2009, 8:32 AM
I will only buy this if they take out the stupid 3D overworld. Bring back sprites.
cptlol
05-08-2009, 10:20 AM
I'll buy the Soul Silver one, I think.
Fuck the "I've grown past pokeymanz" Nice to reminisce and it in awesomeness it > a lot of games published.
Matterialize
05-08-2009, 2:46 PM
And if Fire Red/Leaf Green are anything to go by, they'll also add tons on new content and maybe even more places to explore. Snazzy.
But have they announced anything like that? It could just be a graphical update. Wait, that's pretty much what every handheld Pokemon game is. Never mind.
Metalhead636
05-08-2009, 4:32 PM
Gold and Silver were by far the best, I just hope this isn't bad and 3D-ish like Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.
MistyTehMoose
05-08-2009, 7:29 PM
:hmm: I just filled the cup.
Chaplin
05-09-2009, 12:48 PM
I don't think this is a ploy to make money, more to please the die-hard Pokemon fans who have been asking for this for years. Personally, I'll stick to my GBC Silver, thank you very much.
This sounds rockin' good. I stopped playing Pokemon games, not because I grew out of it, but because I disliked the fact that they kept making new Pokemon to the point where there was too many of them to count. Back in the day I could go "Oh, Pokemon x, he's #y. His powers are z." But then they just threw too fucking many in there.
GSC added new ones, but within reason, and still didn't make it a ridiculous number.
I was looking through this, and I started to wish I had a DS. Then I looked at my dust-covered shelf and remembered that I've had one since they came out.
Dexide
05-09-2009, 3:11 PM
I'm excited for this game. My original Gold won't save my game, and I was hoping for a remake for like a year. I'm excited I will finally get to play this game over, AND be able to save!
I was looking through this, and I started to wish I had a DS. Then I looked at my dust-covered shelf and remembered that I've had one since they came out.
I'm in the same predicament, only I can't seem to find my charger.
Silver was a phenomenal game, but the thing is, would there be all the queer ass new pokemon too?
Ercoledi
05-09-2009, 11:36 PM
I would think so. From Red to FireRed, they even added more Pokemon.
Tyler_Legrand
05-10-2009, 12:04 AM
Really? I just thought Pokemon was short for Pocket Monsters
Ah huh. I didn't say it wasn't.
I was just observing what the logo actually says. Japanese: "Pocket Monster". The English underneath it: Pokemon. (And then "Heart Gold" or "Soul Silver"...)
LaPhBu
05-10-2009, 1:42 AM
Ohh I see. I misunderstood you then.
El Zilcho
05-10-2009, 1:43 AM
This is just another shot to get money, obviously. And, like the other games, it'll work.
Well your starter can follow you, not sure about any others:
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml
Also, there's a rumour out and about that Pokemon will look different depending on how you breed them. It'd make a lot of sense considering there was some fuss a while back about a mystery Pokemon in the new movie. It turned out to just be a Pichu, but with one little difference:
http://www.serebii.net/movies/arceus/pichu.png
So yeah, thoughts?
fionnrokz
05-10-2009, 6:02 AM
This is great. My gold version (or black version as I now call it) is fucked! I can finally replay my childhood on DS. :D
CanadaEh
05-10-2009, 10:22 AM
This is just another shot to get money, obviously. And, like the other games, it'll work.
Well obviously, they don't make these games for the love and joy of working. :indiff:
Dodger
05-10-2009, 10:47 AM
Well your starter can follow you, not sure about any others:
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml
Also, there's a rumour out and about that Pokemon will look different depending on how you breed them. It'd make a lot of sense considering there was some fuss a while back about a mystery Pokemon in the new movie. It turned out to just be a Pichu, but with one little difference:
http://www.serebii.net/movies/arceus/pichu.png
So yeah, thoughts?
that sounds awesome.
I fucking love pokemon. I will buy any game or remake they put out (as long as they're in the actual game series, not those pokemon ranger shits). I will buy this one. Fuck yes, this is great.
I would think so. From Red to FireRed, they even added more Pokemon.
No they didn't, you dipshit. You could only catch the original 150, up until you beat the elite four. Then, if you wanted to, they gave you the choice of catching johto pokemon, but you had to beat the whole game with kanto pokemon first.
Ercoledi
05-10-2009, 11:01 AM
Sorry, I said they added more Pokemon, and you say that "no, you run through with the original Pokemon, after which they add more Pokemon"?
El Zilcho
05-10-2009, 11:06 AM
Well obviously, they don't make these games for the love and joy of working. :indiff:
Right, but there's an obvious difference between making a game for money and milking a game for money. They're milking this for all its worth.
Sorry, I said they added more Pokemon, and you say that "no, you run through with the original Pokemon, after which they add more Pokemon"?
Still, I think it was moreso the option to move on to more pokemon as opposed to them being forced upon you.
cptlol
05-10-2009, 1:28 PM
Up until Celebi(which was only obtainable by hacks and events, fucking nintendo) the pokes were cool, after that they fucked it up. Ruby was okay, but seriously only.. the green dragon was cool.
I didn't bother to buy Pearl, because... I don't know seemed gay.
Nemmukat
05-10-2009, 2:31 PM
Rayquaza is the best Pokemon ever. (the green dragon)
http://www.freewebs.com/kirbyscrib/rayquaza.jpg
If you don't want that shit your officially fucked.
Even though the anime is for 6 year olds, the rpg is actually pretty advanced, if you want to become the pokemon mastar:hmm:.
TheHighwaySong
05-10-2009, 5:43 PM
YUS. I've been waiting for this remake for a long time and if the price of DSs go down I will most definitely get one. GSC was the best series. RSE was okay, and I haven't played DP but it just looks kinda bland. But holy shit finally, a GSC remake.
I wonder if it means they'll bring back the day/night scheme and shit like "You can only catch a Lapras on a Friday." :hmm:
Dodger
05-10-2009, 5:54 PM
Right, but there's an obvious difference between making a game for money and milking a game for money. They're milking this for all its worth.
Shut the fuck up, you dumb faggot.
They aren't "milking" if there's a demand for the goddamn game. For years, ever since FireRed and LeafGreen came out, fans of the games have been wanting a remake of Gold and Silver because those were the only games that couldn't be played on a DS.
In fact, the developers needed to remake the Johto region game, because that would be the only way to in fact capture all the pokemon there are without cheating, which is the whole point of the fucking games.
While I'm all for playing the devil's advocate, you're just being a retarded douche. So shhh.
CanadaEh
05-10-2009, 6:40 PM
Right, but there's an obvious difference between making a game for money and milking a game for money. They're milking this for all its worth.
This isn't milking, hardcore fans have been asking for this for years.
Derelict
05-10-2009, 6:47 PM
The reason I stopped having anything to do with Pokemon so many years ago was because there were just too many actual Pokemon to remember. That and puberty.
I read a little about the remake, though, and I think I might give them a shot. Even if it is a cash grab, at least they realize they won't grab any cash without a well made game so regardless it should be decent. What's the problem with them trying to make some money? It literally can only benefit us as customers. It's not like they force you to pay for the fucking game.
JohnDoe
05-10-2009, 9:15 PM
This sounds awesome, and it's definitely something I want to pick up, but doubt I will. As amazing as pokemon gold was, I don't know if it could hold my attention now like it could back in the day, and it will just turn into a waste of money.
Allen
05-11-2009, 12:39 AM
I'm in the same predicament, only I can't seem to find my charger.
Hahaha. That's exactly the same reason I stopped playing mine.
El Zilcho
05-11-2009, 12:45 AM
Shut the fuck up, you dumb faggot.
They aren't "milking" if there's a demand for the goddamn game. For years, ever since FireRed and LeafGreen came out, fans of the games have been wanting a remake of Gold and Silver because those were the only games that couldn't be played on a DS.
In fact, the developers needed to remake the Johto region game, because that would be the only way to in fact capture all the pokemon there are without cheating, which is the whole point of the fucking games.
While I'm all for playing the devil's advocate, you're just being a retarded douche. So shhh.
Sorry, seeing as how I stopped playing pokemon when I hit puberty, I wasn't aware of the demand for it but I guess that makes sense.
And I wouldn't suggest calling someone a dumb faggot when you're justifying the need for yet another pokemon game.
I'm too grown up for Pokemon. You babies can play your baby game. :mad:
Hats of!
05-11-2009, 7:04 AM
Pokemon would be cool if they included blood.
Ercoledi
05-11-2009, 8:22 AM
I need Pokemon to be able to die.
http://www.pokemon-pearl-diamond.com/characters/bidoof.jpg
cptlol
05-11-2009, 10:13 AM
YUS. I've been waiting for this remake for a long time and if the price of DSs go down I will most definitely get one. GSC was the best series. RSE was okay, and I haven't played DP but it just looks kinda bland. But holy shit finally, a GSC remake.
I wonder if it means they'll bring back the day/night scheme and shit like "You can only catch a Lapras on a Friday." :hmm:
That'd be awesome!
When the first region (yohto?) is complete then to Kanto and Hoenn..
Oh and Rayquaza yeah
phonetics
05-11-2009, 10:36 AM
I wonder if it means they'll bring back the day/night scheme and shit like "You can only catch a Lapras on a Friday." :hmm:
They brought back that shit in D/P.
Nemmukat
05-11-2009, 10:39 AM
But Diamond and Pearl was bullshit. In my opinion.
The 3dness was a nice touch, but it didn't seem like pokemon.
TheHighwaySong
05-11-2009, 10:46 AM
I'm totally oblivious to anything D/P because I haven't played it.
Lextreme
05-11-2009, 12:01 PM
yay! I'm definitely going to get that shit. I'm getting bored with Fire Red anyways.
phonetics
05-11-2009, 12:07 PM
I was just pointing it out to you. I'm not really sure why day/night and time skipped the advanced Pokemon games. I always thought it was one of the best parts about G/S/C so seeing it back in D/P was nice.
Intestiny Destiny
05-11-2009, 12:52 PM
Why don't they just go ahead and make a Pokemon MMORPG?
Nemmukat
05-11-2009, 12:55 PM
Because it wouldn't really work. I'm saying really very loosely.
cptlol
05-11-2009, 3:36 PM
Someone would catch Shiny Artifact Mewtwo and be unbalanced and imba, that's why.
DubiousCow
05-11-2009, 3:53 PM
No. It's because 12 year old kids can't afford $15 a month for subscription fees and their parents hate them.
Dodger
05-11-2009, 4:02 PM
As cool as you guys sound refering to pokemon as a kid's game, the generation that grew up with it (my generation) are 17-18-19-20, are well old enough to pay for a subscription. I vowed never to pay monthly to pay a game, (that's why I refuse to play WoW or Xbox Live), but I would totally go back on that for a pokemon mmo.
Matterialize
05-11-2009, 4:03 PM
It's because 12 year old kids can't afford $15 a month for subscription fees and their parents hate them.
And yet WoW has like fifteen billion subscribers or some crazy shit like that.
Also, someone made a Pokemon MMO facebook app. That was weird.
cptlol
05-11-2009, 4:04 PM
No. It's because 12 year old kids can't afford $15 a month for subscription fees and their parents hate them.
Goddamnit i hope you die.
Tyler_Legrand
05-12-2009, 12:44 AM
Hi cptlol
I think a game revolving around making animals fight other animals is the manliest fucking thing ever.
I think a game revolving around making animals fight other animals is the manliest fucking thing ever.
Awww shit! Then you would love the dog fighting ring I just started in my back yard!
Honestly. I stopped playing pokemon when I 'grew up'. But then I grew out of thinking that 'growing up' means you have to quit doing fun shit, grabbed a gameboy emulator and started playing again. Although... from what I've seen, any and all of the pokemon added after the original 150 are totally gay.
Nemmukat
05-14-2009, 10:51 AM
Actually, the pokemon games are generally an extremely advanced RPG. Even though they are based around 6 year olds, the playability of that age is far more.
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/img/gs_sec2a_pict01.jpg
They replaced the old female character from Crystal. :wail:
You couldn't even choose your gender in the old G/S I think. I loved gold and silver oh god this is going to be so cool.
I'm happy the dude doesn't look like a douche like Lucas did in Diamond/Pearl.
I can't play it because he looks like such a fucking dumbass, with his dumbass hat.
nnutthowze
05-16-2009, 4:02 PM
I left off with GSC. So many re-releases...arghhhh I need to catch up!
Lextreme
05-16-2009, 4:10 PM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/img/gs_sec2a_pict01.jpg
They replaced the old female character from Crystal. :wail:
She looks like Strawberry Shortcake with that hat. :lol:
Teflon
05-17-2009, 2:03 AM
You couldn't even choose your gender in the old G/S I think. I loved gold and silver oh god this is going to be so cool.
Yeah but you could in crystal. Didn't they introduce different genders in Fire Red/Leaf Green anyway?
No I think crystal was before that.
Teflon
05-18-2009, 3:54 AM
I know that Niki, I meant that they put it in Fire Red and Leaf Green even though it wasn't in the originals.
The Bobster
05-21-2009, 6:20 AM
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal have always been my favorites. It seems that I have to buy an DS now.
I might buy this. Diamond and Pearl really disappointed me. I hope they get this right.
Also, there's no such thing as outgrowing pokemon.
Edit: I'm pretty pissed off they're only releasing them for ds too, I prefer a gameboy.
JohnDoe
05-23-2009, 11:44 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the DS a gameboy?
Neon_Pistol
05-23-2009, 11:47 AM
Am I the only person who liked Emerald,Ruby and Sapphire?
Dodger
05-23-2009, 1:33 PM
Emerald is probably one of my favorite versions, the whole battle frontier thing was fucking great.
I stopped with pokemon cuz it was boring. Some say theres a lot of them, but theres TOO FEW!! i remmebered all of their names, types and stuff...
if they added like 400 more and made a game with all regions put together... now THAT would be great.
I liked the anime when i was like 10 years old... now its just repetitive...
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You think about 500 Pokemon is too few? And you remembered ALL of their names?
1000 Pokemon would be fucking crazy
FuriousPineapple
05-25-2009, 3:37 PM
I had stopped at GSC and just sort of lost track after that. I actually just picked up Diamond a few weeks ago for the hell of it and I'm enjoying myself. I wish they would expand more on the WiFi capabilities, in Diamond they're there but it just doesn't seem put together all that well. There's a lot of potential they could tap into there.
JinxTheBadLuckGirl
05-27-2009, 2:52 PM
You serious? I've been waiting for Blue version to be remade since D&P and gold and silver right off the bat? This blows. I'm excited though, haha. But I've been obsessed with Pokemon for years, so this is an awesome thing for me. I remember playing Pokemon on my Gameboy color while every other kid was actually doing something besides sitting around, like playing baseball or something. Ahh, good times. :3
ThePopeofPie
05-27-2009, 3:50 PM
The problem I found with the game was not really the amount of normal pokemon, though a lot of them are pretty gay, but the amount of Legendarys. It seems, especially in DP that there becomes an ultimate team of legends that are basically unbeatable. It destroyed the whole feel of having your own custom built team that could actually defeat opponents on WiFi.
You serious? I've been waiting for Blue version to be remade since D&P and gold and silver right off the bat? This blows. I'm excited though, haha. But I've been obsessed with Pokemon for years, so this is an awesome thing for me. I remember playing Pokemon on my Gameboy color while every other kid was actually doing something besides sitting around, like playing baseball or something. Ahh, good times. :3
Fire Red and Leaf Green ...
Yeah, leaf green was the blue remake. It's just named different.
phonetics
05-27-2009, 6:10 PM
The problem I found with the game was not really the amount of normal pokemon, though a lot of them are pretty gay, but the amount of Legendarys. It seems, especially in DP that there becomes an ultimate team of legends that are basically unbeatable. It destroyed the whole feel of having your own custom built team that could actually defeat opponents on WiFi.
I'm not really sure of the thought process they have going into the newer games? Why would you want to catch 10 legendaries anyways? Half of them you can't even use since they aren't that great. Like will someone please explain the point of Heatran to me? He had nothing to do with the rest of the game. He's a legendary for the sake of being a legendary Pokemon.
That being said, the legendaries in the first two games are great.
CKY_BamFan
05-28-2009, 2:06 PM
I still like Pokemon, but I stopped playing it when GameFreak decided to make Diamond and Silver. I like the classics, like when the Gameboy Color was in style.
CKY_BamFan
05-28-2009, 2:09 PM
Emerald is probably one of my favorite versions, the whole battle frontier thing was fucking great. Agreed. It was what I played 24/7.
Wafflez
05-28-2009, 4:35 PM
Crystal was my favorite Pokemon game, if they make one for crystal i'll get it.
JohnDoe
05-28-2009, 6:36 PM
I still like Pokemon, but I stopped playing it when GameFreak decided to make Diamond and Silver. I like the classics, like when the Gameboy Color was in style.
Agreed. It was what I played 24/7.
Soooo, what you're saying it that you stopped playing the pokemon games after the original two, but you played the battle frontier in Emerald non-stop?
CKY_BamFan
05-29-2009, 3:06 PM
Soooo, what you're saying it that you stopped playing the pokemon games after the original two, but you played the battle frontier in Emerald non-stop?
I like anything better before D and P.
Wafflez
05-30-2009, 5:56 AM
This game is for all the little kiddies who weren't around when Gold and Silver came out. To them it's the newest pokemon game.
Or it's a remake for people who want to play it on their DS.
Ercoledi
06-09-2009, 12:53 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/pokeped_01.jpg
The new Pokemon games come with PokeWalker, a pedometer, which allows you to transfer one Pokemon across and walk around, gaining EXP and happiness.
Holy mother of shit I love gimmicks.
junglebunny
06-09-2009, 1:10 PM
...what?
Ercoledi
06-09-2009, 1:12 PM
Apparently the top of the cartridge there's going to be an IR receiver or something which beams back and forth.
http://www.geek.com/articles/games/pokemon-gold-silver-remakes-get-pokewalker-gadget-2009069/
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pokewalker_02-440x440.jpg
It's sounds so gay but I want it.
Dodger
06-09-2009, 1:50 PM
:O
I want that shit right now.
Oh man pretty soon, we'll be able to battle other people for reals.
junglebunny
06-09-2009, 2:32 PM
So... it's a Gigapet?
John Travolta
06-09-2009, 2:39 PM
I'm playing Gold on my SP at the moment and I'm owning. Won't buy this probably because I'm not getting a DS.
Urser
06-11-2009, 11:21 PM
Japanese boxing:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/heartgold_box.jpg
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/pokesoulsilverbox.jpg
Tempest
06-11-2009, 11:23 PM
Huh, this idea sounds very familiar (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Pikachu2.jpg).
Ercoledi
06-12-2009, 2:19 AM
Heh, I have both of those. I got Pikachu to friends but then I forgot about him and then he wouldn't come out of his Pokeball so I pulled the battery out.
Tempest
06-12-2009, 6:05 AM
What the fuck is this, a pokemon adbot?
Haha cool.
Get me 6 Snorlax level 99.
I'll trade them for whatever shitty pokemon I have right now.
It's been confirmed that ALL Pokemon can follow you, not just the starters. Wow. :hmm:
Tyler_Legrand
06-12-2009, 10:51 PM
Huh, this idea sounds very familiar (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Pikachu2.jpg).
Why are there stains on the buttons? You don't think
Rainbird
06-14-2009, 4:18 AM
This is one of the few DS games I want. Hell, this and Scribblenauts is enough for me to buy a DS.
Like Allen, I didn't like that there were so many pokemon after a few games, so this will be awesome!
And there is a bit of extra info here: http://www.pokemonaus24.com/?blogentryid=4511296
AnimalCrackers
06-14-2009, 10:50 AM
i cant wait, in my opion these were the 2 pokemon games that reminded me most of my childhood.
Dexide
06-14-2009, 1:03 PM
And there is a bit of extra info here: http://www.pokemonaus24.com/?blogentryid=4511296
Any Pokemon can follow you?
That's gonna be so cool :hmm:
The_Solipsist
03-13-2010, 6:07 PM
Bump for EPIC SHIT TOMORROW IN THE USA.
I'm so giddy, even bought a brand new DSi.
CitizenSnips
03-13-2010, 6:28 PM
Bump for EPIC SHIT TOMORROW IN THE USA.
I'm so giddy, even bought a brand new DSi.
Wait wait wait..It comes out tomorrow?!!?! Someone give me 30 bucks immediately.
Metalhead636
03-14-2010, 9:24 PM
I take it all you guys picked this up because it's the fucking tits.
Just finished the 3rd gym. Fuck Whitney and her whore Miltank that tortured me when I was 10.
Dontsaythezedword
03-15-2010, 7:42 AM
Morty's Gengar is a bitch to beat. My whole team got fucked over by his shadow ball
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