Triple J Hottest 100 All Time

[hollywood_maggot]

So yeah, the Triple J Hottest 100 of All Time is underway now, and I was wondering what everyone would class as their top 10 songs of all time. I'm working on a shortlist at the moment, but I'm worried I'll have to make sacrifices as there are songs that just won't get through, and I might have to vote for songs I simply want in there over others.

[exetra]

If Bohemian Rhapsody isn't number one then they are objectively wrong.

[hollywood_maggot]

Ewww. I dunno, from what I'm seeing Under Pressure is more popular, but overall the Beatles appear to be dominating utterly.

[Cakelord]

What the hell is so great about the Beatles, anyway?

[exetra]

I dunno, from what I'm seeing Under Pressure is more popular, but overall the Beatles appear to be dominating utterly.

Well there you go. Triple J once again proves that everyone's opinions on music are wrong except mine.

[The_Solipsist]

1. Claude Debussy - Sonata for Cello and Piano, Prelude and Sérénade

[Hats of!]

You forgot the rest of the list Solpi.

[exetra]

He also forgot that Bohemian Rhapsody is already the single best song of all time.

[Quadros]

The first ten songs from Simple Plan's latest album, in that order.

[The_Solipsist]

You forgot the rest of the list Solpi.

2-10, Nick Drake's songs.

[Crabstick]

I wouldn't be surprised if Smells Like Teen Spirit topped it.

[Hats of!]

2-10, Nick Drake's songs.

You still have to include them. You lazy.

And, keeping with the thread.
1. Pink Floyd - A Saucerful of Secrets
2. Genesis - Supper's Ready
3. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
4. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
5. Genesis - The Musical Box
6. Pink Floyd - Echoes
7. Comus - Song for Comus
8. The Residents - Hitler was a Vegetarian
9. King Crimson - Epitaph
10. Änglagård - Kung Bore

[hollywood_maggot]

I don't have many of my older stuff loaded onto my comp, so I'll have to go sift through my parents records and stuff before I finalise the list but my shortlist atm looks like this (and yes, I know, a distinct lack of older stuff). Oh, and exetra...Queen sucks.

New Noise - Refused
Street Spirit (Fade Out) - Radiohead
Mad World - Gary Jules
Hurt - NIN
Nightswimming - REM
I Was Only Nineteen - Redgum
COTE - Karnivool
Jeremy - Pearl Jam
Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John
Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
Change - Deftones
Oh Comely - Neutral Milk Hotel

[Hats of!]

Queen sucked during the 80's. But their earlier records (Queen I to Night at the Opera) plus their last (Innuendo) is very well worth a listen.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Alright, Voted for plug in baby as number 1. Really looking forward to this.

[Prawnatron]

Alright, Voted for plug in baby as number 1. Really looking forward to this.

Nice, I'll join you.

[InTransit]

I agree that Bohemian Rhapsody should win. I'm thinking of voting for mainly Aus bands because it just makes sense considering it's an Australian radio station. I'm hoping for an old school Powderfinger song in the top 5.

[Laurence]

I haven't decided fully what I'm submitting. Here is my provisional list but it's hardly final (and without all the songs I feel obligated to voite for, like Joy Division/The Cure/Queen/The Beatles etc.), especially given the hideous difficulty of choosing a Radiohead song. I think I'll use an alternate e-mail address for an entirely Radiohead list...

1. Oh Comely - Neutral Milk Hotel
2. Idioteque - Radiohead (potentially Paranoid Android, Pyramid Song, Street Spirit, Reckoner, Karma Police, There There, Talk Show Host, Fog as well - it's so hard to decide)
3. Debaser - Pixies
4. Embassy Row - Pavement
5. So Come Back, I Am Waiting - Okkervil River
6. Neighbourhood #3 (Power Out) - Arcade Fire
7. Nantes - Beirut
8. Waltz #2 - Elliott Smith
9. Chicago - Sufjan Stevens
10. Maps - Yeah Yeah Yeahs

I find this so much harder given that I generally think in terms of albums rather than individually songs. I've never tried to rank songs before.

[hollywood_maggot]

Street Spirit man, vote for Street Spirit.

Oh, and ditto on the album thing.

[opn4bzns]

Prediction: lots of Joy Division and the Beatles in the top ten. Probably London Calling too, and maybe Satisfaction or something. Some dumb song that's popular now will probably slip in, Sex on Fire or some MGMT song. Maybe some Radiohead?

[hollywood_maggot]

I saw a few votes for Kermit's Rainbow Connection. It'd be awesome if that won.

[Laurence]

Ugh if there is any MGMT or Kings of Leon bullshit in it I will be so mad. Then again, I do not doubt the propensity of the unwashed Australian masses to do exactly this. The kind of people who don't actually listen to triple j but vote in its polls and you end up with a mainstream-laced list like this year's.

I hope there's some Radiohead but it's worrying because they have so many awesome songs that the voting might be very disparate and there won't be enough concentration on any one song.

Probably, unfortunately, see some Muse in there. Not that I don't like Muse but they're hardly "of all time" material.

[opn4bzns]

All Time polls are dumb for that reason, it's easy to say 'I like this song, I will vote for it', but it's not really relevant to whether it's the best song ever.

[Pelican Man]

Probably, unfortunately, see some Muse in there. Not that I don't like Muse but they're hardly "of all time" material.

That sure is your opinion!

[Quadros]

But they do suck though.

[hoopymo]

Prediction: lots of Joy Division


Nothing wrong with that.


See it's easier to do it by best of genres than best of all time, theres just too many songs that are amazing but i don't think i could say "this is the greatest son of all time."

[Crabstick]

Ugh if there is any MGMT or Kings of Leon bullshit in it I will be so mad. Then again, I do not doubt the propensity of the unwashed Australian masses to do exactly this. The kind of people who don't actually listen to triple j but vote in its polls and you end up with a mainstream-laced list like this year's.
That generally only happens because what listening to Triple J on Australia Day is almost a tradition in itself, so the commercial crossovers usually rate well.

For me, voting is gonna be based on what I think are the most "Triple J" songs - the ones you'll never hear on commercial radio, and everyone who listens to the station knows all the words. Songs like Doctor Worm, The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song (Flaming Lips) and some White Stripes.

[Weirdusername]

American Pie by Don McLean is, in my opinion, the greatest song created. Followed by Bohemian Rhapsody, of course.

[The_Solipsist]

Greatest song my ass. Guess I'm the only elitist dick here when it comes to classical/baroque/etc.

[Laurence]

For me, voting is gonna be based on what I think are the most "Triple J" songs - the ones you'll never hear on commercial radio, and everyone who listens to the station knows all the words. Songs like Doctor Worm, The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song (Flaming Lips) and some White Stripes.

That's probably a pretty good system. Also, fuck yeah Doctor Worm.

[opn4bzns]

They're down to #18, which was Knights of Cydonia for some reason (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/countdown/cd_18.htm).

[Laurence]

Yeah number 17 was Hilltop Hoods. Fucking joke. 16 was Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, now 15 is Karma Police by Radiohead, the first song in the whole thing I actually voted for. Good stuff. I hope that means we've got the shit out of the way (Hilltop Hoods, Muse etc.).

[opn4bzns]

I'd still bet on joy division making the top ten, since they aren't otherwise in the top 100 (unless you count new order).

[Tweek]

Everyone who listens to Triple J is a stupid faggot anyway so this list is pretty meaningless.

[cancerfist]

beatles will get number one easily but.It dosent matter who gets number 1 people are still going to get pissy and comlplain.

[hollywood_maggot]

Better than every other radio station put together.

I don't think there's been a single song I've voted for played so far.

[Laurence]

Everyone who listens to Triple J is a stupid faggot anyway so this list is pretty meaningless.

Fuck you Tweek. Only other decent station is Triple Z but they just have awkward douchebags talking all the time rather than playing music so I suffer through triple j's relative shitness.

[Tweek]

Yeah those guys on triple z are dumbasses. They manage to play some decent music every now and then though.

[Ocellatus]

I don't like any radio stations. If I have the choice, I just don't listen to the radio.

[Tweek]

The problem with Triple J is that it attracts the hipsters with their shitty hipster music and thats going to make up the top ten or whatever.

[Laurence]

Er, so Bohemian Rhapsody is number 6. If there was any credibility left, it's gone now.
7 was Last Goodbye by Jeff Buckley.
8 was Under the Bridge by RHCP.
9 was Everlong by Foo Fighters and
10 was Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin.

[Tweek]

Should be number 1.

[opn4bzns]

JJJ is far from hipster music. FBi is decent for radio, but it's sydney-only.

[Tweek]

It's all hipster all the time bam bam bam.

Is there somewhere where I can find the entire top 100 list on one page, at least as many as they have played so far?

[opn4bzns]

Yeah (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/countdown/cd_list.htm)

Jesus, jeff buckley's got a lot in it. And Killing in the Name Of doesn't deserve #2.

[Ercoledi]

Here (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/countdown/cd_list.htm).

[Laurence]

5 was Paranoid Android by Radiohead (woo). Not as good as Bohemian Rhapsody, would've been my ideal number 2.
4 was Love Will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division, should've been 3.
3 was Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley, maybe 10 at most.
2 was Killing in the Name by Rage Against The Machine. Durr hurr so angy.

[Tweek]

Killing In The Name number two?
This list isn't so bad after all.

[Tweek]

There was only one Beastie Boys song :rolleyes:
and Banquet isn't even Bloc Party's best song.

[opn4bzns]

Last minute prediction: Never Gonna Give You Up will be number 1.

[Laurence]

Well Smells Like Teen Spirit is number 1. No surprise. Am surprised that Never Gonna Give You Up didn't make it at all though. My mum actually predicted that it would be Nirvana. Sad.

[Tweek]

I guess people aren't as bad as I predicted.
I thought it would be some shitty undeserving shit like Joy Division or something.

[Tweek]

I wouldn't be surprised if Smells Like Teen Spirit topped it.
:aaa:

[Laurence]

I predicted 6 out of 7, was only wrong about Rick Astley. Heh.

EDIT: Fuck you Tweek, Joy Division is better than Rage Against the Machine.

[Tweek]

Both bands play songs which all sound the same, with the difference being RATM are generally much better at it.
Joy Division are boring.

[Ocellatus]

JJJ is far from hipster music.

Sounds like something a hipster would say...

On topic, I don't really think Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves to be over #75.

[hollywood_maggot]

Final few songs voted by people fondly remembering being angsty teens in the 90's. I still think Hurt should have been much higher.

[hollywood_maggot]

FUCK YOU DOUBLE POST

[Laurence]

The whole hipster stereotype is retarded.

But yeah, after all, it was basically a countdown of 'most popular' songs. 'Hottest' in this case refers to its popularity. I don't even know how or when RatM got that popular though, honestly.

[Boof]

Ehh, RATM were my favourite band at one stage. But I'll admit, they shouldnt really have even touched the top 20.

Its still not as dumb as Nirvana nabbing #1, but they did mention something about the list not being about the best songs ever, but rather people's favourites.

So yeah, angsty teenagers blah blah blah.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hell yeh, Number 18 representing. Also pretty happy with Rage being number 2 and smells like teen spirit being number 1.


Banquet isn't even Bloc Party's best song.

I was also surprised at this, I was sure that The prayer was going to get in there and I bloody voted So here we are :frown:

[hollywood_maggot]

Yeah, I was suprised at Banquet. I wasn't even really expecting Bloc Party at all - but if so, well, Helicopter would have made more sense - that's the fan favourite.

[opn4bzns]

Both bands play songs which all sound the same, with the difference being RATM are generally much better at it.
Joy Division are boring.

RATM's lyrics are entirely 'I'M AN ANGSTY TEENAGER FUCK DA MAAAAAAN'. At least Joy Division have meaningful songs.

[InTransit]

Woo! I voted 4 of the top 6. And I voted Rage Against the Machine. Fuck you guys. I was pretty happy with it overall. There were a lot of songs, like Massive Attack's Teardrops that I didn't even think of putting my list together but I was so happy got in.

[Shmuh]

I'm pretty happy that Radiohead was on the list 3 times, especially so close to the top. It's kind of bullshit that Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt was on the list instead of Nine Inch Nails'.

Also yay Jeff Buckley.

[hollywood_maggot]

^Yeah, I voted NINs version. That was the only song I voted for that got in...but I was pretty happy with a few others like Gotye's Hearts a Mess, Ben Folds Five's Brick and Massive Attack's Teardrop.

[Laurence]

I thought the list as a whole is pretty good if you take out the ordering. It leaves you with a pretty sweet playlist. Only with the exceptions of Daft Punk, John Butler Trio (seriously, what the fuck?), System of a Down and maybe Coldplay and Hilltop Hoods (uuuuuuuugggghhhhhh).

I was really surprised that Heart's A Mess got in there but really pleased. Only 4 songs I voted for got in (all of them Radiohead, since I voted twice). Would've liked more Pixies in there, and maybe Where Is My Mind? and Debaser both in the top 20. I mostly voted for recent songs though, since I knew the list would mostly be a who's-who of 90's songs. None of them got in though, I at least hoped for an Arcade Fire song.

[Tweek]

Yeah I totally agree with the Pixies.

What's wrong with John Butler?

[hollywood_maggot]

What's wrong with Daft Punk? Admittedly that song is a little long, but the live version kicks ass and their other songs are great.

[Laurence]

John Butler just bores me a little. Everything he's done sounds the same to me. That and all of his songs get the shit played out of them and just blur together.

Daft Punk are a bit the same, plus I don't really see the creativity. But these are discussions for another thread, another time, maybe.

I was mostly just listing the songs I wouldn't want to listen to, I only commented on them because I guess my music snobbery was shining through.

[hollywood_maggot]

I dunno, I think we can effectively discuss all the bands and their hottest 100 songs in this thread, since it is what it's about.

[Sieda]

RATM's lyrics are entirely 'I'M AN ANGSTY TEENAGER FUCK DA MAAAAAAN'. At least Joy Division have meaningful songs.

Never heard of Joy Division.

But if you don't consider songs highlighting social inequality, national hypocrisy, genocide, human rights violations, xenophobia and the pitfalls of unabashed consumerism to be meaningful (all while played to funky jams featuring some incredibly cool and innovative guitar work) then uh, I think something may be wrong with you.

[Tweek]

Joy Division were one of the first post-punk bands. They released two albums around 1980 and then the singer commit suicide or something.
They aren't bad but they aren't as great as they are made out to be.

[Laurence]

Thing about Joy Division is that they have influenced a huge number of bands from The Cure through to The Red Hot Chilli Peppers through to Interpol. Plus the other band members went on to form New Order who were hugely successful on their own merit.And the singer committed suicide because he had epilepsy and his health was deteriorating, as well as the pressures of his music career and a failing marriage. They actually have a legacy.

Rage Against The Machine have influenced angry teens but not much more. It's not a bad song but it's not amazing, and is probably only popular because of the overuse of the word 'fuck'.

[Sieda]

Thing about Joy Division is that they have influenced a huge number of bands from The Cure through to The Red Hot Chilli Peppers through to Interpol. Plus the other band members went on to form New Order who were hugely successful on their own merit.And the singer committed suicide because he had epilepsy and his health was deteriorating, as well as the pressures of his music career and a failing marriage. They actually have a legacy.

Rage Against The Machine have influenced angry teens but not much more. It's not a bad song but it's not amazing, and is probably only popular because of the overuse of the word 'fuck'.

Well, I think it remains to be seen exactly what RatM's influence will be. Those angry teens will at some point grow up and write their own music. I know a lot of musicians in my local scene who are big Rage fans, and no doubt growing up exposed to that in 'popular culture' has made them more politically aware, as well as more being more apt to include that awareness in their own art.

Also yeah, they have much, much better songs than Killing in the Name Of. Pretty much the later you go in their catalog, the better written their stuff gets, musically and lyrically.