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Dutchinlive
08-24-2009, 8:04 AM
Was just wondering how many other people are out there on Explosm who really appreciate the works of Maynard James Keenan.
Tool:
Formed in 1990, Alternative metal band.
Studio Albums:
Undertow (1993)
Ænima (1996)
Lateralus (2001)
10,000 Days (2006)
Hit songs:
The Pot
Stinkfist
Vicarious
A Perfect Circle: Alternative rock band
Studio Albums:
Mer de Noms (2000)
Thirteenth Step (2003)
eMOTIVe (2004)
Hit songs:
The Outsider
The Noose
Puscifer: Improvisational Hardcore band, with all members except Keenan interchangeable.
Studio Albums
"V" Is for Vagina (October 30, 2007)
Hit Songs:
REV 22:20
Cuntry Boner
I would recommend giving these bands a listen if you appreciate alternative rock and metal, meaningful lyrics. If you are a fan, what is your favorite Keenan song and why?
Mine is A Perfect Circle's The Outsider
timbot
08-24-2009, 8:14 AM
I used to be a fan. But then he got really, really boring. Tool was pretty badass when I was in high school, though. And A Perfect Circle was cool on their first album, too.
Dutchinlive
08-24-2009, 8:26 AM
I used to be a fan. But then he got really, really boring. Tool was pretty badass when I was in high school, though. And A Perfect Circle was cool on their first album, too.
How could you not appreciate 10,000 days?
The insight of 'Vicarious' and 'Right in Two', the intro of 'Jambi', the constant building and eventual climax of 'Wings for Marie', the vocal excellence of 'The Pot', the anticlimactic storyline of 'Lost Keys'/'Rosetta Stoned'.
Come on!
Because the newer stuff is different than the older stuff, and maybe that's just not his thing.
That said, I'm a huge fan. I have everything Keenan's ever done. I mean, deep cataloging. I even have the Kiss tribute album Kiss My Ass where he performed "Calling Dr. Love" with some of the guys from Rage Against The Machine as "Shandi's Addiction". Which admittedly I bought partly for my cataloging of Keenan's stuff, and mostly for my love of all things Kiss.
I have all the Tool albums and videos, including Salival, as well as Opiate, Undertow, and Lateralus on vinyl. All three A Perfect Circle albums and the singles. I have all the Puscifer stuff: "V" is for Vagina (on CD and vinyl), the Cuntry Boner single, the Queen B video, the Dozo Video, "V" is for Viagra: The Vagina Remixes. All of it.
Sieda
08-24-2009, 12:17 PM
I love Tool. They were my favourite band for a long time growing up (I was a bit of an elitest bitch in highschool). However, I find a lot of their music (I'm looking at you Lateralus and 10,000 Days) can get a little self-indulgent and up it's own arse if you're not really in the mood for it.
Still, 10,000 Days Pt. II is one of my favourite songs ever... and they're all incredibly talented musicians.
I loved APC too, even eMotive. However, Pusicifer for the most part sucks....although Rev 22:20 is a killer tune.
El Travo
08-24-2009, 12:40 PM
I used to listen to Tool all the time, then I started to drift away from them. Don't get me wrong, I still think they are awesome; I just don't listen to them as much anymore. And where is Schizm in your first post?
KtotheT
08-24-2009, 12:43 PM
I love anything he touches. Its so raw. Very in your face, fuck you "god" and everyone else. I like how distinct his sound is, and how each different band fits its own mood and message. Tool and A Perfect Circle are one of the few bands that I listen to the entire album without skipping a single song.
timbot
08-24-2009, 6:21 PM
How could you not appreciate 10,000 days?
The insight of 'Vicarious' and 'Right in Two', the intro of 'Jambi', the constant building and eventual climax of 'Wings for Marie', the vocal excellence of 'The Pot', the anticlimactic storyline of 'Lost Keys'/'Rosetta Stoned'.
Come on!
I own 10,000 days. When I bought it, I thought it was pretty cool. Then I started to think that I'd heard a lot of the melodies and riffs on Lateralus.
APC lost me with eMotive. I listened to most of it and thought it just ruined some songs I actually liked.
Plus, as Allen said, they've changed, I've changed, it's just not my thing any more.
Dutchinlive
08-24-2009, 10:58 PM
It's a shame you fell away from it and don't like the new style, I'll edit Schism into the post for you, it does stand out as an awesome song. I have all the albums except Salival, couldn't track it down, and moved onto more sinister means of acquiring music and retrieved it that way. For me, Tool hit's the sweet spot with every song, APC hits and misses, but still hits hard. And Puscifer just has an extremely experimental feel to it that I can't get away from.
Your homework tonight is to:
Learn the complete lyrics of Rosetta Stoned.
Change the name of Stinkfist and give the mp3 to a family member too innocent to derive the innuendo from it, and chuckle to yourself when you hear them singing it.
Go go.
It's a shame you fell away from it and don't like the new style, I'll edit Schism into the post for you, it does stand out as an awesome song. I have all the albums except Salival, couldn't track it down, and moved onto more sinister means of acquiring music and retrieved it that way. For me, Tool hit's the sweet spot with every song, APC hits and misses, but still hits hard. And Puscifer just has an extremely experimental feel to it that I can't get away from.
Your homework tonight is to:
Learn the complete lyrics of Rosetta Stoned.
Change the name of Stinkfist and give the mp3 to a family member too innocent to derive the innuendo from it, and chuckle to yourself when you hear them singing it.
Go go.
Stop gaying up a band I like.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
It's a shame you fell away from it and don't like the new style, I'll edit Schism into the post for you, it does stand out as an awesome song. I have all the albums except Salival, couldn't track it down, and moved onto more sinister means of acquiring music and retrieved it that way. For me, Tool hit's the sweet spot with every song, APC hits and misses, but still hits hard. And Puscifer just has an extremely experimental feel to it that I can't get away from.
Your homework tonight is to:
Learn the complete lyrics of Rosetta Stoned.
Change the name of Stinkfist and give the mp3 to a family member too innocent to derive the innuendo from it, and chuckle to yourself when you hear them singing it.
Go go.
Your homework tonight is to get into a fight with a stranger.
Seriously, what the fuck? Are we talking about the band or making a cult?
On that note, I don't mind Tool, but I feel as if they have a very distinct sound... and they repeatedly use that sound through every song so you can rarely tell the difference, but hey, that may just be me.
Dutchinlive
08-25-2009, 2:54 AM
Stop gaying up a band I like.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
I'll play the 'I'm slightly drunk' card on that one.
I like the link between Jimmy, Judith and Wings for Marie, pointing out the hypocrisy of the faith his mother had in religion, following it zealously before and after her cerebral aneurysm up until her death.
hollywood_maggot
08-25-2009, 6:49 AM
10,000 Days is Tool's best album, although the only other one I have is Lateralus (and I didn't think much of it at all), but since that's the one every circlejerks too, I figure the rest can't be that great.
A Perfect Circle are decent, but they get pretty boring pretty quickly.
The_Solipsist
08-25-2009, 9:08 AM
Dutchinlive, stop being a fucking moron.
Anyways, I've listened to Lateralus more than any other CD I've owned, and it will probably always be my favorite. The energy and intensity in the album is so hard to reach. I like most of their other stuff, but found 10,000 days to be much less accessible to anyone other than hardcore Tool fans, as the are becoming more experimental with their sound. They have many different feels and each CD is totally different from the next.
I could really only stand Mer de Noms from APC. eMotive was pretty bad, and Thirteenth Step was just really weak.
Pusicifer is very hard to listen to unless you are balls high and at an orgy.
O, by the way, Tool is Adam Jones band. Not Maynards.
timbot
08-25-2009, 10:19 AM
10,000 Days is Tool's best album, although the only other one I have is Lateralus (and I didn't think much of it at all), but since that's the one every circlejerks too, I figure the rest can't be that great.
A Perfect Circle are decent, but they get pretty boring pretty quickly.
Really does everyone get off on Lateralus? Maybe it's just because I got into them slightly earlier and then didn't stay a big fan for long, but I thought Aenima was their best.
10,000 Days is Tool's best album, although the only other one I have is Lateralus (and I didn't think much of it at all), but since that's the one every circlejerks too, I figure the rest can't be that great.
I'd really have to say that Ænima is their best. It's a much more solid album, as where Lateralus tends to get tedious at some points. I love Lateralus, but there are points where you find yourself asking, "What the fuck are they doing?" or realizing, "Oh yeah, I forgot I was listening to music."
Demoir
08-26-2009, 8:47 AM
I like Tool but I fucking hate most Tool fans.
I like Tool but I fucking hate most Tool fans.
This is where I am. I saw them live and I chose to sit up in the seats over a floor ticket, simply because I didn't want to deal with Tool fans.
I love Tool. Back in the 8th grade when I was first getting into the whole "music"(When I first got my ipod) thing they were one of the first bands I listened to. They are totally unique, I think, because they are the only band I know that sounds like a mix of regular metal, regular rock, and prog rock. They are great. I can't listen them over and over again, but once I take a break from their songs and come back to them I realize all over again why I love them so much.
I really like A Perfect Circle too. I know that they are just so-so to a lot of people but I dig them. Their soft songs can be so sad but so sweet at the same time. I even like Emotive, which is an album not everyone enjoyed. One thing I don't like all that much is that Manyard's voice can sound a little off at times.
I don't enjoy pucifer that much. They're (It's?) O.K, but nothing special. The stuff I heard were only things I'd listen to on occasion. Nothing I'd put on my ipod.
Regarding the Tool fans, I'm lucky enough to never come in contact with a stereotypical huge Tool fan. How do they act? I mean I love Tool but I don't go crazy over them.
VerminScum
08-29-2009, 11:23 PM
Opiate is enough badass for me to forgive them for their newer albums. Everything up to Ænima is awesome in my book. I bought 10,000 Days when it first came out and thought it was just them getting together and fucking around.
A Perfect Circle I used to like but just grew out of. I still enjoy Emotive.
How is Puscifer? I haven't gotten around to hearing them.
I thought Emotive was great. Really good covers. Especially the Imagine cover. I like that it's sad, because that song keeps getting sadder the longer it stays relevant.
Puscifer is great in my opinion. It's not deep, profound or moving, but it's delightful. Songs about a guy trying to get his trailer park princess back. Songs about vaginas. Songs about guns. It's really just ridiculous. The best song he's done with it is the ultra-dancey "Lighten Up, Francis" (a reference to the Bill Murray film Stripes), but it only appears on the vinyl.
TheHighwaySong
08-30-2009, 12:09 PM
I like Tool because of the music, not because of the deep meanings or whatever. Faggots.
That being said, Ænima is the best album with Lateralus at a very close second place. I just couldn't get into 10,000 Days at all.
And I fucking hate Tool fans, the majority of them would smoke Keenan's cock if given the chance.
otaku-dono
09-07-2009, 3:27 AM
I love Tool. Lateralus and 10,000 Days are amazing albums, but I can never decide which is better. Favourite songs by them are Disposition/Reflection, Wings For Marie/10,000 Days, Eon Blue Apocalypse/The Patient and Pushit. I find most of the "good" songs that most people like to be extremely overrated though, perfect examples being Sober and most of Ænima.
A Perfect Circle are great too, but eMOTIVe was disappointing bar Passive, When the Levee Breaks and Fiddle and the Drum. Thirteenth Step has become my favourite overall album, but Orestes is my favourite song with A Stranger/The Outsider in second.
Haven't listened to as much Puscifer as I could've, but they're alright. I think Undertaker is my favourite by them.
otaku-dono
09-07-2009, 3:28 AM
I love Tool. Lateralus and 10,000 Days are amazing albums, but I can never decide which is better. Favourite songs by them are Disposition/Reflection, Wings For Marie/10,000 Days, Eon Blue Apocalypse/The Patient and Pushit. I find most of the "good" songs that most people like to be extremely overrated though, perfect examples being Sober and most of Ænima.
A Perfect Circle are great too, but eMOTIVe was disappointing bar Passive, When the Levee Breaks and Fiddle and the Drum. Thirteenth Step has become my favourite overall album, but Orestes is my favourite song with A Stranger/The Outsider in second.
Haven't listened to as much Puscifer as I could've, but they're alright. I think Undertaker is my favourite by them.
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