Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[Far]

http://www.smashbros.com/

Comes out December 3rd.

Personally, besides hearing about the single player mode none of the updates have struck me as all that interesting. That is until they announced a Pokemon Trainer as a playable character. I'm a huge fan of pokemon and have forever used Pikachu in the previous two versions but I'll be glad to switch over to the Trainer. I'll be buying another Wii once this holiday season rolls around specifically for this.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer.jpg

Thoughts on the game as whole?

[Soul]

As soon as I buy a Wii im going to buy this but as of now im broke so no brawl for me.

By the way why are you buying another wii for this?

[BAN ME PLEASE]

When I first got my Wii I thought it would be revolutionary, unfortunatley I was wrong. And while I do play it every so often when my friends come by, I rarely use it even for games like Trauma Center(which I have yet to play) or LoZ:TP, which I never finished.

I even didn't buy Super Paper Mario just 'cause I really didn't feel like playing the Wii. But this game is different. I am looking foward to this game more than any other Wii game or game in general this December.

I just wish they'd introduce more characters, I mean most of the new ones are good and all, but "suitless Samus" isn't really cool, I mean it should just be counted as a formation if Samus herself, cause that's what it is. And Ike is cool, but it would be a lot cooler to have someone like Hector or Eliwood. And the Pokemon trainer looks the worst of them all, sure you get 3 pokemon to play as rather than just pikachu, but really, Ivysaur?

[Rebecca.]

I can't wait. Pokemon trainer does seem to be the best new character announced thus far, but I think I'm going to keep my main character (Peach).

[Far]

As soon as I buy a Wii im going to buy this but as of now im broke so no brawl for me.

By the way why are you buying another wii for this?
I sold mine awhile back.

When I first got my Wii I thought it would be revolutionary, unfortunatley I was wrong. And while I do play it every so often when my friends come by, I rarely use it even for games like Trauma Center(which I have yet to play) or LoZ:TP, which I never finished.

I even didn't buy Super Paper Mario just 'cause I really didn't feel like playing the Wii. But this game is different. I am looking foward to this game more than any other Wii game or game in general this December.

I just wish they'd introduce more characters, I mean most of the new ones are good and all, but "suitless Samus" isn't really cool, I mean it should just be counted as a formation if Samus herself, cause that's what it is. And Ike is cool, but it would be a lot cooler to have someone like Hector or Eliwood. And the Pokemon trainer looks the worst of them all, sure you get 3 pokemon to play as rather than just pikachu, but really, Ivysaur?

This is the game I was looking for when the wii first came out and should have waited until it did come out to get one. I'll admit the pokemon trainer probably isn't the best choice for them but I just eat up anything pokemon and until they create a pokemon game for the wii that is 3D, with the pokeom roaming around in grasses and what not I'll have to settle for things like this and the revamped stadium.

[DarkMountain]

So its confirmed your playing the trainer? I wasn't sure when I saw the pics, I knew it was either, one, when you use a pokeball a trainer appears in the background for asthetic purposes, or two, you are the trainer and you use the pokemon. So if you are the trainer I think its a cool idea :) I'll have to play around with the new characters to see what I like best. But its probably going to be old reliable, Samus (I've never been beaten that the first two games btw :P I really need to find another tourney)

I don't have a Wii my self yet, want one specifically for this game and possibly others that catch my fancy. But I'm glad that they aren't using motion sensing for teh game, they realized how bad it would be for both new and old players.

[Far]

Your character that you'd pick is the trainer but he just stands to the back and throws out one of the three pokemon, who share the same percent gauge and something new just for them called fatigue, I believe it was. You can't leave one pokemon in for too long and you can't keep switching them over and over or else it drains and I assume they can't attack.

[Mr Anorexia]

Are those all of the playable characters? It seems like Melee had a lot more.

[Shmuh]

http://www.smashbros.com/

Comes out December 3rd.

Personally, besides hearing about the single player mode none of the updates have struck me as all that interesting. That is until they announced a Pokemon Trainer as a playable character. I'm a huge fan of pokemon and have forever used Pikachu in the previous two versions but I'll be glad to switch over to the Trainer. I'll be buying another Wii once this holiday season rolls around specifically for this.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer.jpg

Thoughts on the game as whole?

That's right, Far. Try and buy the fastest selling console on the market which is impossible enough to buy right now anyways, during the holiday season.

:indiff:

But goddamn, I'm definetely buying this once it comes out. I'm probably gonna use my GCN controller to play, just because I ruled at Melee.

[Far]

I got mine last year on January 2nd. I won't have a problem nor will I care all that much if I have to wait.

[Ninja 2.0]

I just shit my pants. It looks awesome.

[slurba]

Are those all of the playable characters? It seems like Melee had a lot more.

These are the confirmed characters. Obviously we can expect more.

[Valium]

They still haven't confirmed Meta-night for some reason, he's the only one I care about.

[SLjimbolian]

I'm hoping for more new characters as well. There's about 3 1/2 months left until game comes out, so I don't know if they'll be able to squeeze every single information about SSBB in that time frame. I'm guessing they'll be plenty of stuff in the game that won't be discussed in the official Smash Bros. site that all of us will probably find for ourselves.

[Oinohtna]

They still haven't confirmed Meta-night for some reason, he's the only one I care about.

They still haven't confirmed Solid Snake either.

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/DSC00454.JPG

The question is still out about Sonic though. That might show some proof, but who really knows.

[Tyler_Legrand]

but "suitless Samus" isn't really cool, I mean it should just be counted as a formation if Samus herself, cause that's what it is.

It is. Samus becomes Zero-Suit after she uses her Final Smash.

"When Samus destroys her Power Suit, she’s left with the Zero Suit. What she’s lost in power and weaponry, she makes up for in speed!"

See?

And no, likely these are not all the characters. If you've been following them over the past months, you'd know that they've been adding a new character now and again. Why would they stop that now?

Lol, hips of steel (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/peach/peach_070817c-l.jpg)

[BAN ME PLEASE]

It is. Samus becomes Zero-Suit after she uses her Final Smash.

"When Samus destroys her Power Suit, she’s left with the Zero Suit. What she’s lost in power and weaponry, she makes up for in speed!"

See?

And no, likely these are not all the characters. If you've been following them over the past months, you'd know that they've been adding a new character now and again. Why would they stop that now?

Lol, hips of steel (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/peach/peach_070817c-l.jpg)

That's why I said "that's what she is", because I knew that that happened.

...WAIT THERES MOAR CHARACTURS??? By the second thing I said I just meant I wish they'd release more characters more than just now and again. I mean, is it really that exciting seeing "omg peach is up on the site!" after waiting a week and a half?

[Valium]

Sonic would suck as a character though.

[Tyler_Legrand]

is it really that exciting seeing "omg peach is up on the site!" after waiting a week and a half?

She's so cute though ^_^

You know who'd be an awesome character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0SN8w6f4_4) now that third parties seem to be feasible?

[Far]

She's so cute though ^_^

You know who'd be an awesome character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0SN8w6f4_4) now that third parties seem to be feasible?
Oh my yes I'll have to agree with that. I don't see it happening but a man can dream.
Sonic would suck as a character though.
No, no he wouldn't.

[Valium]

What can Sonic do, other than roll in a ball, punch, and turn Super Saiyan?

[Tyler_Legrand]

What can Mario do, other than grow fatter, throw fireballs, and turn Raccoon Hat?

[Valium]

Mario is a crap character too, but thats not the point.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Well if Mario can get in, so can Sonic

:fmita:

[Valium]

He's Nintendo's poster child, he'd get in even if all he could do was jump.

[gizzalove]

Super smash brothers is my favorite game ever! I'll have to buy a wii or just force my friend who already has one to buy the game. I really hope they add Ness as a character he was my favorite in melee.

[Lag]

He's Nintendo's poster child, he'd get in even if all he could do was jump.

If you think about, that happens to be the case.

[Exit152]

I really hope Falco is in this one. I used to kick serious ass with him.

I'm gonna have to pick up a Wii pretty soon.

[Tweek]

She's so cute though ^_^

You know who'd be an awesome character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0SN8w6f4_4) now that third parties seem to be feasible?

Holy shit YES!
You are, like, a genius.

My friends are totally into Super Smash, they hold tournaments and all that, so I know they'll be right into this.
Looking forward to it.

[Allen]

If you think about, that happens to be the case.

Everyone says that. However, I used to use Mario and kick everyone's ass in both previous games. You just have to know what you're doing.

[SLjimbolian]

I wouldn't hold my breath for Sonic appearing in SSBB. You'll only have the chance to savor a Mario/Sonic duo in that Beijing Olympics game Nintendo is releasing this fall.

[Oinohtna]

I wouldn't hold my breath for Sonic appearing in SSBB. You'll only have the chance to savor a Mario/Sonic duo in that Beijing Olympics game Nintendo is releasing this fall.

I don't see why not. Nintendo has said that Sonic would fit right into SSBB and I don't see why he wouldn't. Plus, that flyer from Best Buy did show Sonic right there. Even though it might not be a reliable source, I still think Sonic would mesh perfectly with the other characters into SSBB.

[Tyler_Legrand]

I want Ganondorf back with a sword :(

[Mr Nemo]

The Wii's awesome and all but it's more or less a party console, most of the games are only fun with a few people. Nevertheless, SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL IS GONNA ROCK!

[Tyler_Legrand]

Psh, who buys a console to play solo?

[Kwanza]

I was waiting for a good game to buy a Wii, this will probably be it.

[TriSlash]

I call Snake ¬_¬

[Far]

I want Ganondorf back with a sword :(

Ganonodorf is back along with Sheik.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14154

[Tyler_Legrand]

No sword mention

BUT YAY

Why do I care? I haven't even played either of the two previous games :fmita:

[I_Smell]

Even though I haven't played a Pokemon game since Pokemon Yellow, I still think the trainer is a good idea. Thinkin outside the box omg.
Who waits for this game to come out, thinking "HOLY CRAP I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY AS PRINCESS FUCKING PEACH >=( " ? She just looks like such a shit character and tones down the whole game. Link vs Princess Peach? Samus vs Princess Peach? Snake vs Princess Peach!? It's just not fair on the other characters.
The whole stickers thing looks like a bit of a waste of disk space. Unless collecting all the stickers unlocks someone or something. That'd make sense.
These assist trophies are a good idea, but I don't know who half of them are.
Also: Shit I hope Sonic isn't in this game. Usually I'd just want as many characters as possible because I don't have to play as them. This is where I draw the line, because even playing against Sonic the Hedgehog would fill me with rage to the point where my organs may very well collapse. Since the Megadrive, they've been releasing these 3D Sonic games that are just utter turd. I don't want Smash Brothers to turn into one of those games.

[Tyler_Legrand]

You talkin' smack about Sonic smelly

[Mr. Crow]

Sonic would suck because then Fox wouldn't be the fastest character. :(

<3 Fox.

[ilovebrownies]

She's so cute though ^_^

You know who'd be an awesome character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0SN8w6f4_4) now that third parties seem to be feasible?

He was actually, in this game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClayFighter_63_1/3).

[Valium]

As long as Kirby and Meta-Night are in it, I'm good character wise. (Roy would be great too, but since the addition of that other Fire Emblem guy, I don't think Marth and Roy will be back)

[Shmuh]

I really hope Sora will be in it. I know, he's from playstation, but what about Chain of Memories? That was a Nintendo game. :0 If he is a character, I will eat my cat.

[Valium]

Sora is made by Square Enix and Disney, he has as much chance of being in it as any Final Fantasy character. Just because they made a Kingdom Hearts game for the Gameboy Advance, doesn't make him a Nintendo character.

[TriSlash]

I really hope Sora will be in it. I know, he's from playstation, but what about Chain of Memories? That was a Nintendo game. :0 If he is a character, I will eat my cat.

I dunno, but I reckon Playstation could make an awesome rip off of Super Smash Bros. Throw in some FF characters, Dante, Crash Bandicoot, Snake, Tommy Vercetti and mebbe Jak and Daxter, and voila, you've got an awesome game.

[ArKaiN]

Actually one of the trailers has snake on a cardboard box spying on brawl.
I'm still buying a P3. These kid graphics+no blood annoy me.

[TriSlash]

I'm still buying a P3. These kid graphics+no blood annoy me.

I don't mind the Wii, but I just think that 80% of the game have a life span of 3 days. Also, I hate what I call the "Nintendo Propaganda". Namely that in every Wii video, everyone is grinning and laughing like patients in a Psyche ward.

(<-- PS3 fanboy :D)

[Tweek]

I guess if you are an Itlalian plumber downing magic mushrooms and riding dinosaurs, you have a lot to laugh about.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Who waits for this game to come out, thinking "HOLY CRAP I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY AS PRINCESS FUCKING PEACH >=( " ? She just looks like such a shit character and tones down the whole game.

I do, she's adorable!

[DarkMountain]

I'm a one game type of person, I don't switch from game to game constantly, I'll play one game for a long period then get tired of it and play another one. That being said however. Super Smash Bros has been the only game where I NEVER stop playing. I've never been "bored" of the games. Before I had a N64 I went to Toys R Us after school everyday and spent hours playing it, had a few friends come and play alot too. I finally got my 360 and my own smash and I freaking loved it. Did far better in its single player than I did in Melee and I'm pretty sure I'm better overall in the first as well ( I always got "INCREDIBLE!" when doing single player at the end) and nobody could ever beat me. I got SSBM the year after it came out. Same story, could not find anybody to beat me. Even though I rarely had people to play with I'd have fun doing 1v3 against lvl 9 computers and/or single player on hard sometimes hardest. My character if choice has always been Samus, how ever I've been good with Pikachu and Link as well. I am good at all of them (when some of the locked content requires you to beat the game with every character etc you have to be :P) but I am best with Samus. She is pretty fast (not the fastest of course) pretty strong, but not the strongest, and is excellent at both far and closed ranged attacks.

I really need to find some tournaments to go to. As of now the hardest competition I've had is one of my friends I got into the game, it was ironic, the other friend I got into SSBM was the best of our Halo team, yet sucked at SSBM lol. But the first friend played Marth, and I think it was mostly my playing style that made him hard for me. Marths insanely fast attacks that can hit far enough away that I can't hit back, however just like he is in Halo 2, he's all about "What the pros are doing" super sliding or whatever its called and whatever, yet they failed to give him a huge advantage over me. I used to visit a popular SSBM forum where they were all about the tricks and etc and they had videos. Maybe I'm just being extremely cocky but I don't think any of them would beat me, even Wes, teh supposed best Samus player. In their opinion, you have to know all the tricks to be the best, I for one call bullshit.

Anyway, back to teh topic at hand :) I do not have a Wii but will be getting this one for this game. I'll have to figure out what character I'm best at in this one, their changing so much it very well might not be samus anymore. I am almost as psyched for it as I am for Halo 3, even though I can't help but feel the game play videos are seriously lacking, they look exactly like Melee, but you can't improve on perfection I guess. I have SSBB updates sent to my email from IGN but I stopped following it for a long time, because all the updates were just new backgrounds and the such, apparently I missed alot. I went looking on the website for the new maps/items etc and holy damn. Final smash attacks will be amazing (though I'm wondering about Zero Suit Samus, the seemingly only way to play her is to use Samus' final smash but what if you don't want to lose the armor?) Assist Trophies (items that will spawn a random fighter to defend you, and the majority of them are invincible) smoke balls, cracker launcher, the badge that reflects projectiles, feckin amazing. Oh and lets not forget, sticky bombs! (Think Halo's Plasma grenades), their like motion sensing mines that stick to players as well as other objects. I will use those so much, I've always been good at hitting people with objects from across the map (I'm more likely to throw an item at you than actuallly use it) In SSB I was insanely good at hitting people with items.

And finally, the entirely new concept of the "Pokemon Trainer" Could be cool, when I first saw the pics I thought the trainer was just in the background for asthetic reasons but later realized he's a character that has 3 pokemon at his disposile, Bulbasoar, Squirtle, Charizard. You can switch them out in a set order and they all share the same damage meter, plus they all have what you could call "stamina" if you keep using one pokemon without switching him out he'll get weaker and weaker, adds a whole new dynamic to the game. Im' interested to see how you play them though. Pikachu is obvious, Bulbasoar is probably easy, but what about Charizard?

Meh, thats enough of me ranting for now :)

[TriSlash]

I finally got my 360 and my own smash and I freaking loved it.

You mean you finally got an N64?

[Frank]

I have to say, the pokemon trainer is a waste of space. Im not a fan of Pokemon in the first place, but i think that if you HAD to have more pokemon characters they should have just used the pokemon the trainer uses instead of a tag team sorta thing.

I hope that made sense.

I'm looking forward to Meta-Knight. He's the only interesting one

[DarkMountain]

You mean you finally got an N64?

Wow... coulda sworn I typed N64 :P Reminds me of when I wrote "heay" when meaning to write "yeah".

[Far]

Today we have an explanation of Links attacks. I'm really liking these tether recoveries. I tend to waddle off the screen from time to time in a big fight...

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/link.html#2nd

[Valium]

Why does Link sound exactly like he did in Melee?

[NVM]

Why does Link sound exactly like he did in Melee?

Because they're not changing the moves sets on one of the best and most used Smash bros character.
Plus he didn't chnage much from Ocarnia to TP anyhoo.


But yeah I've been following these since they launched and have been eating them up like crack.
Brawl is currently the only game I really care about.
(Cept for Mario galaxy, MP3, Zelda: PH, and mario kart wii)

[Lag]

The only thing I hope doesn't happen is them making about a dozen unlockable characters that consist of the exact same characters you already own.

[Far]

I have to say, the pokemon trainer is a waste of space. Im not a fan of Pokemon in the first place, but i think that if you HAD to have more pokemon characters they should have just used the pokemon the trainer uses instead of a tag team sorta thing.

I hope that made sense.

I'm looking forward to Meta-Knight. He's the only interesting one

I have to say I'm glad that they are finally going to try something different instead of one fighter.

[PshSam]

She's so cute though ^_^

You know who'd be an awesome character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0SN8w6f4_4) now that third parties seem to be feasible?

Was Earthworm Jim a cartoon before it was a game?

[Tyler_Legrand]

Nope.

The game's a classic, and not much different, except Pete was naked and not much of a sidekick, and there were a few villains not in the cartoon (e.g. Big Bruty), and the cartoon had a few villains not in the game (e.g. Bizarro Jim).

- zomgf did you see the Subspace Army video? WHAT IS KIRBY GONNA DO

[TriSlash]

The only thing I hope doesn't happen is them making about a dozen unlockable characters that consist of the exact same characters you already own.

You mean like variations, like Samus Zero Suit or Young Link?
Yeah that would suck, although i'm secretly holding out for a Deku Link.
Although it's not secret if I tell you.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Jfjfhdgbhshudfsd.

Samus Zero Suit is not a separate character.

I don't know how different Young Link will be, but at least they say he'll be cel-shaded for more variety.

[PshSam]

Nope.

The game's a classic, and not much different, except Pete was naked and not much of a sidekick, and there were a few villains not in the cartoon (e.g. Big Bruty), and the cartoon had a few villains not in the game (e.g. Bizarro Jim).

- zomgf did you see the Subspace Army video? WHAT IS KIRBY GONNA DO

Oh, cool. So it was a game and turned into a cartoon? The reason i ask is that, somewhere there is an article about how the creator said that he wouldn't turn anything that was an animation then turned into a game, and put it in brawl. Including all anime/American cartoons.

[Tyler_Legrand]

It's pretty close, actually. The first EWJ game came out in 1994, while the show began in 1995.

[I_Smell]

I think it works perfectly both ways. Best game-turned cartoon ever, anyway. The best part was his voice- I don't even know if he spoke in the game.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Power-ups made him yell "Groovy!" and the like. He sounds kind of similar. To me anyway.

[Far]

I think it works perfectly both ways. Best game-turned cartoon ever, anyway. The best part was his voice- I don't even know if he spoke in the game.

He did, and was voiced by Dan Castellaneta, the guy who does Homers voice, in both the show and the games.

I'm really digging the Subspace additions. A little story line will go a long way especially if all the characters have their own, which they are supposed to.

[I_Smell]

He did, and was voiced by Dan Castellaneta, the guy who does Homers voice, in both the show and the games.
GEURRRROOVY.
The video on the site now's the best one they've released. It was awesome when Mario got hit in the face.

[Richard_Simmons]

I have to say, this story mode is getting more badass every video. I cant wait for it. But why was Petey Pirhana there. Can he be a character?

[CreamScreamer]

Looks as if another new character has been revealed. Diddy Kong. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/diddykong.html)

[Urser]

I have to say, this story mode is getting more badass every video. I cant wait for it. But why was Petey Pirhana there. Can he be a character?

I doubt it. It was confirmed that Bowser was the largest playable character and Petey Piranha seems a lot bigger.

I reckon he's just a boss or maybe he will be transferred to an assist trophy.

Diddy Kong looks hawt by the way.

[Android]

Looks as if another new character has been revealed. Diddy Kong. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/diddykong.html)

Wasn't/Isn't Donkey Kong already a playable character? I can't see much reason why they would add Diddy Kong as well.

[Valium]

Unless he shoots peanuts or drives a go-kart hes garbage to me.

[PshSam]

Wasn't/Isn't Donkey Kong already a playable character? I can't see much reason why they would add Diddy Kong as well.

Eh, i don't see what you mean. He wasn't in any of the past 2 games, and people have been raving for him for a long time. He's a solid addition.


Oh, i see what you did there. You said Donky Kong was already there. Donkey and Diddy are 2 very different play styles, I'm assuming. Donkey Kong has always been semi-slow and powerful. Diddy is more agile.

[Far]

Wasn't/Isn't Donkey Kong already a playable character? I can't see much reason why they would add Diddy Kong as well.

I can't see them having similar fighting styles at all. Donkey Kong is a huge brute while Diddy was always a more acrobatic fighter.

Unless he shoots peanuts or drives a go-kart hes garbage to me.
He scrambles around the battle, using whimsical fighting moves while wielding both his Rocketbarrel Boost and Peanut Pop Gun!

[fionnrokz]

This was going to be a brilliant game. Since they are putting in pokemon trainers, it will be the best game. Also I have made a control scheme based on gamecube controler!!

B = throw empty pokeball (for small damage)
B + up = Charizard
B + Down = Ivysaur
Smash b = Squirtle

A = standard melee

[Far]

This was going to be a brilliant game. Since they are putting in pokemon trainers, it will be the best game. Also I have made a control scheme based on gamecube controler!!

B = throw empty pokeball (for small damage)
B + up = Charizard
B + Down = Ivysaur
Smash b = Squirtle

A = standard melee
It's just one button to throw the ball and it goes through a cycle.They swap out in a set order: Squirtle→Ivysaur→Charizard.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070813i.jpg

[Rebecca.]

Who waits for this game to come out, thinking "HOLY CRAP I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY AS PRINCESS FUCKING PEACH >=( " ? She just looks like such a shit character and tones down the whole game. Link vs Princess Peach? Samus vs Princess Peach? Snake vs Princess Peach!? It's just not fair on the other characters.


Wait, I don't get it, how is it not fair on the other characters? I love Peach, she's my favorite & best character.

[PshSam]

Who is ever going to play as squirtle or ivysaur? Charzard will basically be the "Pokemon master". Since they all share the same hit % I don't see why not.

[Far]

You can't keep one Pokemon out for an exceedingly long amount of time as it will get fatigued. Read the articles please.

[DarkMountain]

Who is ever going to play as squirtle or ivysaur? Charzard will basically be the "Pokemon master". Since they all share the same hit % I don't see why not.

They all share dmg percentage yes, so you might think you could just be one pokemon the entire time liek you would on another character, but if you read the articles you'll learn that the pokemon have a "stamina" attribute, the longer their used, the less they have, which means on top of dmg meter, longer it takes to get back up after a fall, less strength etc. So you will have to use all three. I personally think its a great addition as a new playing style, but I want to see how they fight. If their all like Pikachu then damn, that would be awesome, but I can't help but feeling their controls will lack.

[MistyTehMoose]

Wow, this looks awesome.

SSBB and Mario Party 8 are my biggest reasons for buying a Wii.

I'm incredibly excited.

[PshSam]

Arg, i did read the article, but it was a while ago. I totally forgot about that.

I've been had :/

[DarkMountain]

*hugs*

I personally really want to find out about Zero Suit Samus, at first I thought it was a seperate character, then I thought it was a "transformation" like Zelda/Sheik which it kinda is, but as far as we know, a permenent one. Samus' final smash is hte on shown in teh first trailer, a blast so powerful and made of so much win it breaks her armor and she becomes zero suit. Hopefully its reversable so I don't get stuck as a gimped samus for the rest of the match after using my "trump card" :P

[Tokzic]

I can't wait to try super smash for the Wii, I've played it since the N64. Wish they'd hurry up and release it already!

[Far]

Release date is December 3rd. It ain't coming any faster.

[Urser]

NEW UPDATE!

Yoshi's final smash surprisingly has nothing to do with the games that he's previously been in.

Also, it seems that the Smashville music sample only starts to get better at the end when K.K. starts singing.

[fionnrokz]

Yoshi's Final smash is awesome!! And i always used the grab moves (grapple beam, clawshot) as recovery moves, and since they now lock on to the nearest ledge, it makes my stradegies a hell of a lot easier...


Super-AWesome-Brilliant idea by me coming thru = Wi-Fi Online Battles with random people!! With an idea like this, you could never get bored of a game like this. Nintendo could hold tournaments and give prizes to 1st 2nd 3rd!! (example- wii points)

Anyway, this pokemon trainer concept where each pokemon has stamina is going to ender my friends stratedgies useless. They always use the same move, so 3 different pokemon will hopefully make them bow to my superiority.

A lot of people will go for strengthy looks rather than trying each one out first, as in most people will use charizard seeing as he looks better. I will mostly using Ivysaur due to my love of grass starter pokemon (i picked every grass pokemon!). And squirtle looks hard to hit!!

Anyway, I've heard december 3rd is the release date. A christmas to look forward to indeed!! Although this game is brilliant, there are some flaws. -

- Using Samus' Final Smash turning you into zero suit samus, i would have thought it would be a seperate character. Maybe You can turn back into samus...
- I hope too god they arnt using 3 characters to one moveset (dr. mario + mario + luigi, fox + falco, ganondorf + capt. falcon, roy + marth)
- Snake... Sony is our enemy!

that is all the flaws i can think of.... Has anyone seen pikachu's final smash, omg i thought pikachu was undefeatable as he is!! Also i wonder if you can do that item frequency selection choosing which items....

Ok, thats all i have to say on the subject... Hopefully toad will be a playable character :)

[Urser]

Super-AWesome-Brilliant idea by me coming thru = Wi-Fi Online Battles with random people!! With an idea like this, you could never get bored of a game like this. Nintendo could hold tournaments and give prizes to 1st 2nd 3rd!! (example- wii points)

Nintendo would never go through with this idea considering the fact that friend codes are required for nearly every single Wi-Fi game they make.

[fionnrokz]

Nintendo would never go through with this idea considering the fact that friend codes are required for nearly every single Wi-Fi game they make.

Pokemon Battle Revolution dusnt need friend codes and neither dus pokemon diamond and pearl..

Because Ivysaur is one of the coolest pokemon!

[Frank]

I have to say I'm glad that they are finally going to try something different instead of one fighter.
Far, they never had just one Fighter dipshit.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Far, they never had just one character dipshit.

You're an idiot.

[Frank]

You're an idiot.
Well that was certainly a great addition to this discussion. On what grounds am I an idiot?

Are they Including all the melee characters as well? The article didn't actually say.

[Android]

Frank if you try to start an argument, i'll just give you the last infraction point to give you a TO. Try not taking one part of something someone said out of context. Far did not state the SSB only had one fighter.

[Urser]

I think Frank was referring to the fact that SSBM had Ice Climbers.

But I have to agree with Far that they were considered as 'one' on the grounds that they were both played at the same time.

[Frank]

Ah, Just understood what far meant.

I didn't actually mean that Username180, I thought Far meant that all the characters were almost identical.

[Urser]

Okiiieeee... I'm confused now. :ahe:

*runs away*

[DarkMountain]

Yes, there was a problem with characters sharing the same move set, ganndondorf and captain falcon for example, but It didn't really bother me because imho they all have hte same move set, the same button is always a punch, kick, jump, only thing that varries is strength speed reach, some characters have up B grab moves, some have ranged grab moves (Samus and Link). But they mentioned they were working on it.

Any of you guys in the Missouri region? I wants to plays somes smash! I can't even play by my self right now, I had ot throw away my GC.

[TeamTom]

Psh, who buys a console to play solo?

all the people who bought PS3's:facts2:

[Urser]

Newest update reveals more about Petey Piranha and how he's a boss. It seem you may have to unlock Zelda or Peach by playing that mode. Then unlock the other by playing again.

Or maybe it just changes the story...

[SLjimbolian]

The latest update sounds interesting. It almost seems like that Subspace Emissary mode will be much bigger than expected and may possibly wind up being the main single-player mode for SSBB.

[Far]

New item today, Super Spicy Curry. Says it's different then the fire flower so I guess we'll see.

[Snake Face]

Meta Knight. That's all that needs to be said on the subject of awesome characters.

[I_Smell]

I'm waiting to see what Snake's Final Smash is. Totally hoping he pilots a friggin REX.
+I can't believe I've only just thought of this: They should (No, they need to) have Raiden with his sword.

[NVM]

I'm waiting to see what Snake's Final Smash is. Totally hoping he pilots a friggin REX.
+I can't believe I've only just thought of this: They should (No, they need to) have Raiden with his sword.

I'd I wouldn't doubt if Raiden's in this game. Almost each series has at least 2 characters.
I bet 5 E-dollars that Ridley or Dark Samus is in Brawl.

Current Roster:
Bowser
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Fox
Ike
Kirby Link
Mario
Meta Knight
Peach
Pikachu
Pit
Pokemon Trainer
Samus(and zero suit)
Snake
Wario
Yoshi
Zelda

[Valium]

They wouldn't put Ridley in SSBB. Flying characters never make it.

[Far]

They wouldn't put Ridley in SSBB. Flying characters never make it.

Charizard and Pit.

[TriSlash]

+I can't believe I've only just thought of this: They should (No, they need to) have Raiden with his sword.

If they did do Raiden, I would demand uber cool MGS4 Raiden or nothing. Original was ghey.
But they won't put him in, as Raiden was exclusively a playstation character, while Snake started on the Snes.

[NVM]

If they did do Raiden, I would demand uber cool MGS4 Raiden or nothing. Original was ghey.
But they won't put him in, as Raiden was exclusively a playstation character, while Snake started on the Snes.

Konami owns the character of Raiden, not Sony.

[SLjimbolian]

When did Snake ever appear on SNES? You probably mean the original Metal Gear game on NES.

Something tells me we might be able to use our Mii's for battle. The list of musicians signed up for the game says a lot.

[Ninja 2.0]

Godamn it. The more you people talk about this game the more i realize I want it. So now I have to by a 250 dollar Wii just because of all of you!
GODAMN IT!
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!


But on a side note, has anybody found any word on controls or the different places you can fight?

[NVM]

Godamn it. The more you people talk about this game the more i realize I want it. So now I have to by a 250 dollar Wii just because of all of you!
GODAMN IT!
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!


But on a side note, has anybody found any word on controls or the different places you can fight?

Controls (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various01.html)
I'd suggest buying some Nintendo brand Gamecube controllers, they're cheaper now.
Annouced Stages. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/index.html)

[Ninja 2.0]

Controls (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various01.html)
I'd suggest buying some Nintendo brand Gamecube controllers, they're cheaper now.
Annouced Stages. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/index.html)

Funkylicious.
But how would you do it with the Wii remote?

[NVM]

Funkylicious.
But how would you do it with the Wii remote?
No idea.

[Ninja 2.0]

No idea.

Thats SO much help.:finger:
haha

[Shagg]

You just hold the wii-mote sideways.. and play it just like a normal controller; no motion sensing involved.

[Valium]

Charizard and Pit.

Pit can't fly forever, and I'm guessing the same for Charizard.

Ridley is always flying in the Metroid Series, so he can fly forever. It'd be unrealistic if they added him in and he could only fly for a few seconds.


Plus, Ridley is fucking huge

[SLjimbolian]

I could see Ridley being a boss in that Emissary Subspace mode.

[Urser]

I could see Ridley being a boss in that Emissary Subspace mode.

I reckon he will be.

They say that Bowser is the largest PLAYABLE character and Ridley is fucking HUGE! But he would fit well in the Adventure mode.

EDIT: We need...

http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/drildozer1.jpg

[TriSlash]

Sorry, whole load of retard in one post >.<
Konami owns the character of Raiden, not Sony.
I meant that Raiden has only appeared on Playstation, and never on Nintendo, giving them no claim to put him in SSMB
When did Snake ever appear on SNES? You probably mean the original Metal Gear game on NES.

Yeah I did mean NES, I just forgotted, it was before my time :(

[NVM]

You just hold the wii-mote sideways.. and play it just like a normal controller; no motion sensing involved.

Today's update says there's motion involved.

I meant that Raiden has only appeared on Playstation, and never on Nintendo, giving them no claim to put him in SSMB

He's appeared on a Xbox console, and I'm pretty sure Nintendo never mentioned that had to be on a Nintendo console. Doesn't really matter though.

[TriSlash]

He's appeared on a Xbox console

Oh wow, I never knew MGS was on the Xbox. :D

[Hats of!]

I long for this game. But in the same time I feel guilty for not having a wii. I have about the right amount so I should be able to optain one now.
And I love Meta-Knight, I wished for him to come earlier.

[Mr. Pink]

Andross looks so awesome. I was hoping he'd be a Sub-Space boss, but having him as an item is just as good.

[I am homosexual]

Nice thread. I'm glad there's somewhere where I can talk about SSBB without having to talk endlessly about Sonic or Tom Fucking Nook.

Sometimes I think that the people at SORA give us crappy updates on purpose, like the spicy curry item. Honestly, I really want to know who the characters are. They did give Meta Knight's B attacks, though. I've been waiting for that for.... about half a year.

[Benjaman]

I think that if they Put Sora from Kingdom Hearts in this game, it would be the greatest thing to ever happen to Nintendo. The exact opposite would be if they put King Dedede as a playable character. What I think would be a good idea, would be if in some mode whatever character you picked, would have an enemy. The enemy would coincide with the game series, and wouldn't be playable. Therefore Samus with Ridley, Mario with Petey, and Kirby with Dedede. I believe someone her posted how Ganon was being designed? Who said he was playable? Maybe he is an enemy of Link. Maybe Wolf would be against Fox, and I could go on and on about other Enemies and whatnot.

I would really want to see Falco come back, and I think he is because heard somewhere that all the characters in Melee are coming back plus more. A newcomer I would love to see would be Banjo Kazooie. Not very practical, but that would be cool.

[Tyler_Legrand]

I would really want to see Falco come back, and I think he is because heard somewhere that all the characters in Melee are coming back plus more.

I heard Mr. Game and Watch isn't coming back =<

[Far]

Todays update sheds a bit more light on to the Pokemon Trainer and how his attacks will work. Lots of variety. Very sexy.

[MistyTehMoose]

Um. Sora is a playstation kid, Ben.
Today's update says there's motion involved.

No, it just shows the moves depending on how you tilt the control stick. I thought so too.

[Far]

There has been Kingdom Hearts games on Gameboy.

[MistyTehMoose]

Oh really?

I stand corrected. I've never seen them.

[Mr. Pink]

I'm really curious as to how Charizard's rock smash move works. The update says it "smashes rocks with its head." Does this mean the opponent is hit by shrapnel from the rock? I would have preferred if he actually through a boulder at opponents.

[Benjaman]

There has been Kingdom Hearts games on Gameboy.

Yeah, and Final Fantasy Games are being put on the Wii. I still doubt Sora is going to be on it, though.

[Demoir]

I really hope Sora will be in it. I know, he's from playstation, but what about Chain of Memories? That was a Nintendo game. :0 If he is a character, I will eat my cat.

I'll hold you to that.

..If you even have a cat.

[Shagg]

I heard Mr. Game and Watch isn't coming back =<

Wow, all of the people who played him must be really upset; where ever he is. :mmyes:

[NVM]

Pokemon Trainer's bitchin.

[Far]

Today we get some explanation as to how the characters with wings will utilize them. I'm glad that they have a function and aren't just there to preserve the look of the characters.

[Urser]

WARIOWARE STAGE!!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage10.html

The sex. I'm a HUGE fan of WarioWare and Wario being added to the game was great enough. But now that he has this level, I'm so happy. :whale:

I actually thought they were going to make a level like this, and I was hoping.

[Benjaman]

I'm surprised that they haven't announced a Metroid map. I bet it will be awesome.

WARIOWARE STAGE!!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage10.html

The sex. I'm a HUGE fan of WarioWare and Wario being added to the game was great enough. But now that he has this level, I'm so happy. :whale:

I actually thought they were going to make a level like this, and I was hoping.

I'm also a big fan of the Wario Ware Series. The stage looks tough, though.

[NVM]

WARIOWARE STAGE!!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage10.html

The sex. I'm a HUGE fan of WarioWare and Wario being added to the game was great enough. But now that he has this level, I'm so happy. :whale:

I actually thought they were going to make a level like this, and I was hoping.

Quoted for truth.
This stage looks cool, but hope its not too changy, like Pokemon Floats and that Big Blue F-Zero stage from melee.

[snap1o5]

WarioWare mini games are usually around 5 seconds long, right? In that case, I would probably count on a constant change. :indiff:

[fionnrokz]

I heard Mr. Game and Watch isn't coming back =<

Oh dear god no

[Benjaman]

Mr. Game and Watch wasn't that bad, but fighting him to get him as a character was terrible. It took me like, 10 times.

[Commodity]

I'm so glad I kept my two wireless GC controllers.

Good riddance to Mr. Game and Watch.

[PrettyHasItsPrice]

If Falco isn't in there I wont even bother renting it.

[Shmuh]

Falco = Fox. It's just like Young Link = Adult Link. =/

[BKS]

Hmm... theres been a Castlevania game for a Nintendo system, correct?


That would be absolutely "bitchin'"

[NVM]

Hmm... theres been a Castlevania game for a Nintendo system, correct?


That would be absolutely "bitchin'"

Castlevania started on a Nintendo system.
There's been plenty since.

Not to mention that Konami owns the franchise, along with Metal Gear.

[Slingshot]

Falco = Fox. It's just like Young Link = Adult Link. =/

there are subtle differences that people actually chose from

[Richard_Simmons]

Who cares if game and watch isnt coming back, he sucked balls. The weird thing is, we have heard nothing of Luigi. Dark Samus would be nice. Oooh, Leon Kennedy from RE4. Never played it, but I know he is a BAMF. and he got his start on the gamecube.

[NVM]

Who cares if game and watch isnt coming back, he sucked balls. The weird thing is, we have heard nothing of Luigi. Dark Samus would be nice. Oooh, Leon Kennedy from RE4. Never played it, but I know he is a BAMF. and he got his start on the gamecube.

He got his start on the PS1.
But RE2 was ported to a shit load of systems anyways.

[Lance]

If Falco isn't in there I wont even bother renting it.

I wouldn't go so far as not renting it, but I was almost as godly with Falco as I am with Pikachu. Main differences between him and Fox: Falco doesn't rapid fire his gun, however it makes the enemy flinch; His Falco Fire takes less time than Fox (awesome against Marth and Roy players since they kept forgetting he takes less time and goes shorter.); His aerial moves are different; His Reflector makes people fly in the air, opposed to Fox having them fly to the ground, loved doing combos with that +Aerial Moves.

Sometimes even subtle differences can make all the difference in a fighting game :clint:

[Far]

Video today. Seems to be Pit's opening one. I liked where he put his back to the door and then let himself fall backwards out. I don't like the link-esque voicing.

[social_lawnmower]

Oh wow, I never knew MGS was on the Xbox. :D
Yeah, substance was.
They should put a bad character from MGS in, like Vamp or Revolver Ocelot.

[TriSlash]

They should put a badcharacter from MGS in, like Vamp or Revolver Ovelot.

Bad? What are you crazy? Those are kickass characters. Ocelot has the greatest back story in Video game history. And Vamp is so badasss in MGS4 trailer. If you wan't a bad character, put in Meryl, she was pretty useless. Damn Rookie.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Maybe he meant "evil"? I wouldn't know.

[Shagg]

I dunno if someone posted this yet.. but here's a whole data-hub of SSBB information/updates on IGN. It's got almost everything that SSBB has released; so check it out. Plus Page 2 has every update that comes out. :mmyes:

SSBB Linky (http://wii.ign.com/articles/809/809868p1.html)

[ID10T]

Wow this game looks cool...IF ONLY I HAD THE MONEY! :wail:

[ID10T]

K.K. APPEARS IN THE GAME!? Ooops...I just wet pants...and it wasn't urine...

[I_Smell]

Who the hell is KK?

I wanted all the Melee characters to be in it, cos I never had Melee =[
It's funny that Mr Game & Watch was even in that game though.
These opening scenes are funky, but I wish someone would talk. It makes you realise how many Nintendo characters never speak.

+The main difference between Fox and Falco is FALCO-PUNCH

[Benjaman]

Falco also looks alot more badass.

[NVM]

Who the hell is KK?

I wanted all the Melee characters to be in it, cos I never had Melee =[
It's funny that Mr Game & Watch was even in that game though.
These opening scenes are funky, but I wish someone would talk. It makes you realise how many Nintendo characters never speak.

+The main difference between Fox and Falco is FALCO-PUNCH

You may want to buy($15 new) or rent Melee, there were quite a few changes in controls from SSB to melee.

[social_lawnmower]

Bad? What are you crazy? Those are kickass characters. Ocelot has the greatest back story in Video game history. And Vamp is so badasss in MGS4 trailer. If you wan't a bad character, put in Meryl, she was pretty useless. Damn Rookie.
I meant bad as in "badass".
Shalashaska is my favorite character in the whole series.

[SLjimbolian]

I had to remind myself that this K.K. is not the infamous K.K. Downing of Judas Priest. K.K.'s that white dog from Animal Crossing who plays guitar.

[peteaboda1]

+The main difference between Fox and Falco is FALCO-PUNCH

That's Captain Falcon not Falco who has "Falcon-Punch" isn't it? The game looks very cool though

[Lance]

Updates:

Diddy Kong has two new confirmed special moves: Peanut Popgun and Rocketbarrel Boost.

[Mr Anorexia]

as whole?
Fuck you too.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Oh hey, look

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/iceclimbers/iceclimbers.jpg

[BAN ME PLEASE]

Oh hey look the two most boring characters ever.

[I_Smell]

Hurray! I wanted these to be in it, cos they look like a unique guy.

The site is a whole page of failure now though. I saw the Unique Brawl thing, and when I saw the screenshot, I thought "OH COOL ITS LIKE BUDOKAI". Then I read it and thought "OH WAIT ITS JUST SOME SHIT APPEARANCE CHANGING THING >=( ". What a letdown.

Also: Munchlax? MUNCHLAX? DAMN YOU NINTENDO!! :argh:

+Nobody has ever played Fire Emblem on the GameBoy Advance. Have some dignity, guys.

[Far]

Hurray! I wanted these to be in it, cos they look like a unique guy.

The site is a whole page of failure now though. I saw the Unique Brawl thing, and when I saw the screenshot, I thought "OH COOL ITS LIKE BUDOKAI". Then I read it and thought "OH WAIT ITS JUST SOME SHIT APPEARANCE CHANGING THING >=( ". What a letdown.

Also: Munchlax? MUNCHLAX? DAMN YOU NINTENDO!! :argh:

+Nobody has ever played Fire Emblem on the GameBoy Advance. Have some dignity, guys.
The stuff in the Special Brawl does have effects, not just appearance.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

..Ya the special brawl is basically a more advanced feature of the special melee. Instead of just choosing giant melee you can choose giant + fast melee or osme shit.

Plus what are you talking about 'no one's ever played FE on the GBA'?

[I_Smell]

How good could Fire Emblem be if I've never heard of it?

+That's not a special feature, that's a fuckin options menu.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

Fire Emblem is probably one of the greatest games I've ever played, and I suggest anyone with even a remote interest in turn-based strategy games should play them.

As for this: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various04.html (which I'm assuming you're talking about), it is a feature...like I said before: You could just have Mario that gets items throughout the match to upgrade him. But with this you can have metal fire Mario from the start.

[NVM]

How good could Fire Emblem be if I've never heard of it?

+That's not a special feature, that's a fuckin options menu.

It's a mode, like in Melee.

[Far]

WiFi was officially announced today. I'm glad it isn't going to rely solely on friend codes as I've never liked them at all.

[fionnrokz]

HELL YES, BITCHES!! wi-fi!!!!

[BAN ME PLEASE]

Nintendo is so freakin' over protective with their Wi-fi. I mean, it was bad enough that Pokemon Diamond+Pearl didn't have Wi-fi, so adding it to this was great.

But do you see how protective they got? The bolded shit like 'If you think of your opponent as a simple scarecrow, any psychological barriers may melt away.' and 'you will not know each other’s names.'

I don't know about you, but the main reason I play online is to interact with other people. It's a huge step foward for even Nintendo to finally add online play in their recent games(I mean, in Metriod Prime Hunters you could chat with anyone, but that was a while ago) But it sucks that you can't talk.

[NVM]

It didn't say anything about friend codes, and it did say register names.
But I wouldn't rule them out.

But I wasn't expecting much from Nintendo, but then again. I play online for a challenge. And to play with friends that live away from me.
Brawls' service works fine for that.

EDIT: nevermind it mentioned friend codes....

[Far]

The subspace enemies were introduced today. Does Roader remind anyone else of Wheelie from the Kirby games?

[MistyTehMoose]

The wi-fi is going to be awesome too =D

There's very few games that use it, as of yet.

[SLjimbolian]

Wi-Fi games for Wii has been pretty good for the most part, but I just can't stand being matched up with an overly cheap player in Mario Strikers Charged. Hopefully it won't be the case for SSBB.

[NVM]

God I love the items in this one.

It's going to be mayhem when I set them on High on free-for-all.

[Far]

Massive Snake update today. He has been pretty much confirmed for awhile but it's nice to see his moves and music without having to wait for separate updates.

[Shagg]

Snakes powers kinda remind me of Samus's. I don't know if that's a good thing or not..

-Missle
-Mine (but I'm assuming his last longer)
-Gun...

But he's gonna be WAY more bad ass to handle, cause he's fuckin Snake.

[Far]

I like his recovery move a lot.

[Tempest]

I've mostly ignored this thread because I don't have a Wii, but I looked over the website.. It makes me want to buy a Wii JUST to play as Pit. Pit is the ultimate bad-ass. I didn't really like the Wii, but I imagine this game has a lot of potential for the motion system.

[Shagg]

Well Pit's an Angel, so he's not Bad-Ass.. but I want to play him SO bad. A bow that turns into two swords? Hot Damn!

[Urser]

I didn't really like the Wii, but I imagine this game has a lot of potential for the motion system.

There won't be any motion sensitivity in the game. Buttons and D-pad/Control stick.

:facts:

[NVM]

I've mostly ignored this thread because I don't have a Wii, but I looked over the website.. It makes me want to buy a Wii JUST to play as Pit. Pit is the ultimate bad-ass. I didn't really like the Wii, but I imagine this game has a lot of potential for the motion system.

I don't think it using use motion much, if any.

In fact I'd suggest people actually get a regular CC/GC controller for this.

[Mr Anorexia]

I've mostly ignored this thread because I don't have a Wii, but I looked over the website.. It makes me want to buy a Wii JUST to play as Pit. Pit is the ultimate bad-ass. I didn't really like the Wii, but I imagine this game has a lot of potential for the motion system.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8610/asasashs5.png

[fionnrokz]

this just in : snake has officially been announced as a character!!

[Far]

Read a few posts up why don't ya...

[SLjimbolian]

Think they're be anymore characters? I'm thinking the rest will be unlockables just like they did with Melee. The only "available at start" characters left will probably be previous ones like Capt. Falcon.

[Far]

In their character page there isn't any room left to add anymore characters, they filled the last spot up with Snake. While no doubt there will be unlockables I don't think we're going to be getting anymore character updates.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

They could easily just add more space =\

[Far]

They could have easily made it bigger in the first place but judging as it's always been this size, even when those categories were empty, I doubt they'll change it. Even though they are trying to make it seem like it's the creator giving us a sneak peak, you can tell it's all been planned out long before hand. Those table sizes were made the size they are for a reason.

[I_Smell]

Am I the only one who knew Snake was confirmed about a year ago? That wasn't just a rumour, guys. They came out and shouted about it.
They could have easily made it bigger in the first place but judging as it's always been this size, even when those categories were empty, I doubt they'll change it. Even though they are trying to make it seem like it's the creator giving us a sneak peak, you can tell it's all been planned out long before hand. Those table sizes were made the size they are for a reason.

Oh yeah, course it's all planned. You notice how they reveal all Snake's info on the same day that TGS starts?

[NVM]

Am I the only one who knew Snake was confirmed about a year ago? That wasn't just a rumour, guys. They came out and shouted about it.


Oh yeah, course it's all planned. You notice how they reveal all Snake's info on the same day that TGS starts?

Yea I don't think anyone thought it was a rumor, especially since everyone was like "WTF" at the end of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnTTvhKvz7E).

[Tyler_Legrand]

They just want to repeat what's been said in the Dojo.

[Urser]

Oh look. Snakes in the game.

[SlowCheetah]

I'd be more excited for it, but the second one totally blew and I can see the same thing happening for this one. But you never know, it might turn out to be ok. Although nothing beats the first one. NOTHING.

And Samus ftw. greatest character ever made for that game.

[Urser]

What? The original Smash Bros was better than Melee?

You must be one of those hardcore classic gamers who can't seem to get through their head that these games keep getting better. Melee had 99% of the original Smash Bros in it with EVEN MORE FEATURES!

[MistyTehMoose]

The gameplay was a little bit different, but I loved them both.

As for the Snake thing, that was confirmed when they released the trailer months ago.

[Urser]

Oooooh. Trophies are back with a lot more things to do with them.

Tingle scared me in the last picture.

[NVM]

What? The original Smash Bros was better than Melee?

You must be one of those hardcore classic gamers who can't seem to get through their head that these games keep getting better. Melee had 99% of the original Smash Bros in it with EVEN MORE FEATURES!

I agree, Melee improved on everything SSB had.


And Trophies!, I loved collecting these in Melee, never got them all.
Oh well.

[DarkMountain]

SSBM was a definite improvement on SMB, graphics, game play, characters etc. The only thing I didn't like was they made the AI harder :P On the first one, when I was bored and had no friends over to play with I'd either fight against capped out AI, or beat single player on the hardest difficulty and everytime I got the "Incredible!" at the end, in SSBM however, I can rarely beat it on hardest and I've never gotten anything but "Congratulations!" to my memory. But man, I love that game, if I had my GC still I'd be playing it. Its my "Damn, I'm bored of WoW/Halo 2, I want to play smash!" game. What I would really love is a tournament, in both smashs I could never find anybody who could beat me, in melee I got one of my friends into it who could get close to beating me and won a few 2v2 games only because I was teamed up with our other friend who wasn't very good (yet he was teh best of us on Halo, figures) and he teamed up with his friend that was slightly better. I play as Samus, he plays as Marth :P Interesting combo. I remember one game, my teammate was on his last life and I was slowly dwindling the other teams lives away, and my teammate died, the other team decided to tell him how to take one of my lives and come back.. I was so pissed, he took one of my lives back, died almost instantly, and I lost.

Years ago I trolled a smash bros forum and man, these people were messed up. Its almost as bad as Halo's "Pros", this guy named Wes was supposedly the best Samus player, best out of who've they've seen, not everybody who plays goes to tourneys. But from their view, you could not be good unless you knew all the little shortcuts and secrets like super dashing and etc, yet, my friend who learned all those could not beat me and I didn't know how to do any of them, besides the normal dodging and stuff. They also found it n00bish to use items, which I don't get. Sure, some bad guy getting a hammer/bat and running around aimlessly getting kills can be annoying, but imho, it takes more skill to play with items than without, you have to know how to counter the items, not to mention, give me a item and I'm more inclined to throw it at you than use its real purpose (I was damn good at throwing crap from across the level and hitting my target in the first one :P, those sticky grenades are gonna be verrrry fun :)) But yeah, they acted like people using the power weapons was too overpowered and playing with items used no skill because they were cheap.

Somebody grabs teh hammer, first of all, theirs a chance it will be a dud anyway. Secondly, its not that hard to dodge, unless you aren't very quick at dodging and/or you have a slow character. They have a opening from the backside which leaves room for items to be thrown in, attacks, I like using my grappling move from behind as well. As Samus I have my B move which if timed right will avoid the hammers, I mean seriously, I don't see the big deal.

Anyway, enough of my rant :) I need to get a Wii soon for this game.

[MistyTehMoose]

DarkMountain, tl;dr.

Trophies aren't all that great, so I'm not too excited.

[DarkMountain]

DarkMountain, tl;dr.

Trophies aren't all that great, so I'm not too excited.

The meaning of tl;dr is right on the tip of my tongue but I'm drawing a blank :P

Trophies are meh, I believe my count in melee is like 200 something, I forget, I've gotten all the ones that you can get randomly while playing single player pretty much, all teh characters unlocked, beaten every type of single player with every character on every difficulty.. now thats work :)

[Shagg]

tl;dr= Too long didn't read. Which it was... I got to "I love tournaments!" and I just walked away.

But SSBM was 10x better then SSB. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Shmuh]

tl;dr= Too long didn't read. Which it was... I got to "I love tournaments!" and I just walked away.

But SSBM was 10x better then SSB. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
I dunno, man. I found SSB to be way more fun then SSBM at party's. I mean, SSBM is fucking awesome, but there's something about SSB's multiplayer that makes you want to play a billion rounds.

[Dexide]

In my opinion, something that would make this game cool is a FULLY customizable character, where you could pick the moves, appearence, voice, weapon, etc. and they should have a BIG list to choose from, not just "Mario hat? Samus helmet?" they should have a relatively large selection of everything.

[I_Smell]

I don't get these features. Maybe I'll read some of the trophie things, but:
You can view them from a variety of angles!

Seriously, it's called 3D. We've been able to do that for about 20 years- and what's so fun about being able to arrange them?

And, in a bonus mode, you can even create something like this.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/various/images/various05/various05_070924e.jpg

Something like what!? There's absolutely nothing going on in this screenshot! I wish they were spending their time on something better. Come on, Nintendo, you've got like an unlimited budget with this one.

[NVM]

I highly doubt Nintendo's effort put in Trophies really affected the overall game.
It just seems that they are improving in all areas.

Though I could care less about arranging Trophies, it doesn't hurt.

[Far]

A couple things no one's mentioned.

Diddy Kong's final smash. Kinda sucks that the peanuts he shoots can give back health to anyone.

Mr. Resetti seems like the magickarp of assist trophies, doesn't actually do anything.

Pokemon Trainer's final smash looks pretty nice. I was wondering what they were going to do for him. With every update we get regarding him he's come closer and closer to replacing Pikachu as my main fighter.

[Urser]

Pokemon Trainer's final smash seems a bit 'powerful' to me. Hopefully the Pokemon get quite fatigued from this if they use it.

[HipHipHooray]

I think it only seems powerful cause it's pretty much the elite moves of Pokemon combined into one. I'm sure it won't be any stronger than any other final smashes.

For instance, you can't escape Link's Final Smash.

[HappinessMan]

I'm really excited for this game. Probably the first time I'll break out my Wii again this year.

[MistyTehMoose]

A couple things no one's mentioned.

Diddy Kong's final smash. Kinda sucks that the peanuts he shoots can give back health to anyone.

I don't think it would be a significant amount, probably like one or two percent.

[Benjaman]

I think having a Mr. Resetti Assist will be the funniest thing in Brawl. Unless Snake can hide in a box. That would be awesome

[Far]

He can. It's been showcased several times.

[Urser]

Oooh, supposedly there WILL be an Animal Crossing character in the game that uses fishing rod, net, shovel, etc.

http://www.wiipals.net/Forum/showthread.php?p=122298#post122298

Appearantly it translates into this:

FAMITSU: Have you been approached to contribute Animal Forest elements for the new Smash Bros. game?

KATSUYA EGUCHI: Yes, and there is quite a funny story to it. A few months after E3 2006, (Masahiro Sakurai) contacted me and asked if I'd like to develop possible Animal Forest ideas for Smash Bros. Originally, we settled on just a quick, simple Animal Forest item, but with the success of Wild World and the Animal Forest film, he asked if I'd be up for designing additional elements. [Laughs] Fast forward a few months and I had stage and character concepts created. Sakurai chose his favorite of the stage concepts, slightly tweaked it to his liking, and we together decided on the final Animal Forest character, which is a very fun character to play. With both the stage and character I utilized ideas from the games. For example, if you play the stage at night, the sky will be dark. If you play in the winter, expect to see snow, and leaves in the autumn time. And yes, trees will be decorated on Christmas! It's really something else. I worked very hard on this one little stage! [Laughs] The Animal Crossing character is very much like the one in the games. You know, he will use his axe, fishing rod, bug catching net, and everything else from the games.

[Benjaman]

That would be the character I would play as. I'd totally shovel the shit out of the Ice Climbers for no reason.

And, they have a DS Kingdom Hearts game in the making, so I think that justifies Sora more of a position in Brawl, yet it's unlikely.

[HipHipHooray]

Imagine the levels where it's like masses of different Kirby's, but they're all different Animal Crossing characters. :aaa:

Golden Shovel, Axe and Fishing Rod smashes. And if they made it so that the 4 different costumes were divided up into 2 male and 2 female. That would be awesome.

So as awesome as that would be, I still would not use em. :indiff:

[NVM]

That would be the character I would play as. I'd totally shovel the shit out of the Ice Climbers for no reason.

And, they have a DS Kingdom Hearts game in the making, so I think that justifies Sora more of a position in Brawl, yet it's unlikely.

There was 2 GBA games released too.

Also though there it is very very likely that an Animal Crossing, remember that interview that said Ice Climbers weren't returning?

[HipHipHooray]

Oh how I wish that was actually true. Who honestly thinks
"Oh my god can't wait to play as ICE CLIMBERS"

[Benjaman]

The only positive thing in Melee about the Ice Climbers was the fact they could recover from falling off a cliff well. Now, every character has a grappling hook-like move to recover, so now they are absolute shit.

[Urser]

I'm sure they are going to be more powerful/quicker in Brawl. The characters aren't all the same as before.

[HipHipHooray]

There was no change for Fox or Link from SSB to SSBM.
Or Kirby for that matter.. He just got more opponents to steal the power from.

Or Mario, Luigi, Samus, Pikachu, Donkey Kong, Captain Falcon, Ness and whoever else appeared.

[Urser]

Ahem. Mario had a move overhaul if you didn't notice. Luigi is likely to have one too, just wait until he is revealed.

Ness and Captain Falcon are also unconfirmed just like Luigi, although they are very likely to appear. But they can still be changed in some way.

Link's boomerang has changed and takes stuff with it.

Also, this is taken directly from the website when Bowser was revealed:

To be honest, there are a LOT of characters that offer a slightly different flavor this time around. If you think they’re all going to be the same as they have been, it’ll be rough for you.

[HipHipHooray]

I'm talking from Super Smash Bros to Super Smash Bros Melee, haha.

[Urser]

I'm talking from Super Smash Bros to Super Smash Bros Melee, haha.

Then why'd you bring it up? :ahe:

Ohwell. What do people think tomorrow's update will be? Gameplay? Subspace Emissary? Assist Trophy? Etc.

Personally, I'm hoping for an Assist Trophy/Pokemon because I doubt we will be seeing anymore updates on levels/characters until the release.

[HipHipHooray]

"I'm sure they are going to be more powerful/quicker in Brawl. The characters aren't all the same as before."

I was just commenting on the fact that they hadn't changed much in the initial sequel, so I don't think they'll change now.

And I think tomorrow's will be a pokemon. Although, since I haven't got a DS, I'll be like "Who!?" to half of them anyway.

[BKS]

I dunno, man. I found SSB to be way more fun then SSBM at party's. I mean, SSBM is fucking awesome, but there's something about SSB's multiplayer that makes you want to play a billion rounds.


Agreed, and I found the controls for the N64 easier to use than the ones for Gamecube.

Too sensitive for me, I do believe. Either way, my brother's getting Brawl when it comes out so, "Its all good."

[Tyler_Legrand]

"I'm sure they are going to be more powerful/quicker in Brawl. The characters aren't all the same as before."

I was just commenting on the fact that they hadn't changed much in the initial sequel, so I don't think they'll change now.


... To which he already replied to explaining that since the blog describes changes to the characters, there probably would be much change, to which you already replied that in fact you were "only describing the first two games", which was obvious!

It then becomes an annoying cycle. :indiff:

[Benjaman]

Then why'd you bring it up? :ahe:

Ohwell. What do people think tomorrow's update will be? Gameplay? Subspace Emissary? Assist Trophy? Etc.

Personally, I'm hoping for an Assist Trophy/Pokemon because I doubt we will be seeing anymore updates on levels/characters until the release.

I'm guessing Ice Climbers' final smash, if they haven't already posted it.

[Urser]

Oh shit. Another character:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/lucas.html

Lucas from MOTHER3. Hmm... is he going to replace Ness or just be another addition from the franchise?

[I_Smell]

What the hell is MOTHER3? Right- I_smell is not the target demographic anymore.

[Far]

Mother is the Japanese name for Earthbound, which is where Ness is from.

[Hats of!]

I hope Ness will stay. I don't want them to change everything.
But aslong as Luigi and Mario is there.

[BAN ME PLEASE]

It looks as if he's going to replace Ness. I mean, he basically has the same character model and looks exactly the same except for the clothes and hair.

Although I don't know the character, this is probably a big step for Earthbound fans, remember when Marth and Roy appeared in SSBM? It really helped the fan base for FE and helped recent Fire Emblem games get over here to the States(or where ever country you happen to live in)

[Far]

I really wish they would do another earthbound.

[NVM]

I really wish they would do another earthbound.

Or at least release a translated version of Mother 3 for the VC.

[Benjaman]

I doubt Ness will be taken out. I think there's going to be at least around 2 characters for each party game, examples: Kirby and Meta Knight, Ness and Lucas, Link and Zelda, Donkey and Diddy, etc. I know that there isn't some matches for some, but for Nintendo games there are.

[Mr. Crow]

Nooooo, he's replacing Ness! :wail:

EDIT: Oh, it's been said already. Um... so, how 'bout that Pit?

EDIT AGAIN: Yeah, he's definitely replacing Ness, he basically looks exactly the same, seems to have the same powers, and it says that his power might surpass Ness's. So, what'd be the point of Ness?

[NVM]

Nooooo, he's replacing Ness! :wail:

EDIT: Oh, it's been said already. Um... so, how 'bout that Pit?

EDIT AGAIN: Yeah, he's definitely replacing Ness, he basically looks exactly the same, seems to have the same powers, and it says that his power might surpass Ness's. So, what'd be the point of Ness?

I don't know, it'd be kind of odd if they'd replace someone from the original Smash.

[SLjimbolian]

If they're gonna replace Ness with Lucas, I wonder if they'll do the same with Capt. Falcon and switch him with I dunno, Doc Stewart?

[Urser]

It's the third installment of Earthbound as it is known in Europe. It is from a very popular RPG franchise but only the first one was released in English.

So yeah. Personally, I don't like it. But there are loads and loads of people that do.