Starcraft 2

[Tyler_Legrand]

Yep.

Official Information Page (http://www.starcraft2.com/)

Cinematic Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhtXtnV3pg&mode=related&search=) - A nice insight on the work required to prepare a Marine for battle.

Protoss Gameplay Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ipBCEZwbM0&mode=related&search=)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4L04L1SCcY&mode=user&search=) - Caution: Mothership is being changed into generic Arbiter-like units. (Not a good move in my opinion)

PCGamer's Feature Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30MBljXxg3M&mode=related&search=) - Caution: Soul Hunters were dropped (good move in my opinion). Tempests are being changed into generic Carriers (not a good move in my opinion).

Terran Gameplay Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcHeto_NSRo)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGuBc1Kn1SY&mode=related&search=) - Their showing of the Reapers is my favourite. Their movements just seem to click.

Single Player Demo ("http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2L3wFZOHGM)

[Exit152]

Tycus is wicked. He looks so bad ass, so are the reapers. I really like how Blizzard gives a little background information on the units.

Edit: Since I've heard of Starcraft 2, I've been playing Brood War like every day

[Allen]

I is so excited. The announcement of StartCraft II has done weird things to my body.

[SmileEmptySoul]

I thought about buying it, I might still do so, not sure yet. I need more convincing.

[ArKaiN]

This made me giggle like a Japanese schoolgirl high on E in a Hello Kittie store.
This game will seriously end my social life.

[Exit152]

I thought about buying it, I might still do so, not sure yet. I need more convincing.
How would you need more convincing? It looks wicked.

Edit: They've also removed the black hole ability for the Protoss Mothership. Good on their part because when I first saw it, the first thing that came out of my mouth was "lame".

[TheLameSauce]

I was just checking the recent updates on the site, looking at the new artwork, and I got the striking suspicion that those last five or so alien objects were not Protoss. Especially that claw. Compare that claw to anything else we've seen from the Protoss, and it just doesn't fit in. I'm thinking Blizzard might be putting more thought into a playable Xel'Naga race than they have admitted up to this point. If you look at Blizzards answer to the question of races on their FAQs page, they never really answer the question, do they? I would love to see the Xel'Naga as a playable race, but only if Blizzard can live up to their standard of perfect balance between races. But you know, even if they don't, they'll just release a patch a few months after the game to fix it.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7240/clawwq5.png

[b1wsatan]

This made me giggle like a Japanese schoolgirl high on E in a Hello Kittie store.
This game will seriously end my social life.

Yea I know what you mean, although WoW pretty much ended my social life first.

[Spastic]

I am not really excited at all for this game, I may get it but they will really have to impress me. I remember being so let down when Diablo III wasn't announced, so that may be where my bias comes from.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Play Hellgate London instead

[Spastic]

Yeah but it's just not the same, don't get me wrong as Hellgate London is a great game. It's just not Diablo 3.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Well, Blizzard's already working on another game that isn't Starcraft or World of Warcraft. We don't know for sure what it is though

[sparta47]

I used to be such a SC junkie until World of Warcraft was released, but now I'm bored of WoW and can't wait to play a continuation of one of the best games ever. I'm also glad as hell that there using Battle.net again.

[BKS]

I want my Sunken D please!


If this is anywhere nearly as good as the original, I'll be set. Lets just hope a map editor is involved.

[TireVengeance]

It's not going to be Vista Only I hope.

EDIT: Nevermind, just checked the FAQ on the main site and it's for both XP and Vista. Means STILL no reason to switch to Vista.

[Matterialize]

Means STILL no reason to switch to Vista.

Crysis :mad:



I wonder what they'll do with the mapmaker. The best thing I ever made in the old one was one of those big RP maps, with unit-spawning, etc. I'm actually looking forward to the mapmaking more than I'm looking forward to the actual game.

Think I'll reinstall Starcraft, just for kicks. Heh - the case says "COMING IN 1999: DIABLO II". Ah, the memories.

[TireVengeance]

Crysis :mad:



I wonder what they'll do with the mapmaker. The best thing I ever made in the old one was one of those big RP maps, with unit-spawning, etc. I'm actually looking forward to the mapmaking more than I'm looking forward to the actual game.

Think I'll reinstall Starcraft, just for kicks. Heh - the case says "COMING IN 1999: DIABLO II". Ah, the memories.

I began to much prefer the user created content for WC3 and TFT when they came out to the custom maps/games for Starcraft, but whether you love it or hate it I'd put money on the map maker being alot closer to the WC3/TFT one than the original Starcraft one, though improved no doubt.

I always thought the gigantic roleplaying maps for WC3 were amazing, with all the mechanics and small details the creators put in. Looking back it was like a really primitive WoW.

[Dr. Gentlemen]

I'm not impressed, with all that they've announced so far it just looks like an expansion pack with a graphics update :indiff:

I'll probably still buy it though....

[Matterialize]

What, you were expecting maybe a spaceflight sim instead of an RTS?

[sparta47]

Dr. Gentlemen, whoever doubts Blizzards product making must be crazy. All they do is make GOOD games, where the fuck have you been the past decade.

[Jamez5000]

Terran Gameplay Video (HD) (http://files.filefront.com/Starcraft+2+Terran+Gameplay+Trailer/;8577640;/fileinfo.html)

I can't wait to get this game, I loved SC but the graphics bother me having played it for so long I always felt they should update it. When I heard about SC2 a long time ago, I was amazed and continue to wait with anticipation! I think an updated SC is just what I need to for my girlfriend to hate my computer more!

[Dr. Gentlemen]

Dr. Gentlemen, whoever doubts Blizzards product making must be crazy. All they do is make GOOD games, where the fuck have you been the past decade.

WoW is living evidence that blizzard is capable of making a crappy game. I just hope they aren't done announcing other features besides new units.

Secret cow level maybe?

[Hats of!]

I hope not Xel'naga is playeable. It will destroy the dark feel.
But I could see like a new army of humans.

[Matterialize]

WoW is living evidence that blizzard is capable of making a crappy game. I just hope they aren't done announcing other features besides new units.

Secret cow level maybe?

Y'know, if WoW is such crap, can you explain how it's probably the most popular MMO in the entire world?

But since you're such an expert on the subject, what would you like to see in SC2 other than new units and a graphics update?

[Dr. Gentlemen]

Y'know, if WoW is such crap, can you explain how it's probably the most popular MMO in the entire world?
I cant explain why it's so popular...it's completely beyond me, that game is unbelievably dull and repetitive.

But since you're such an expert on the subject, what would you like to see in SC2 other than new units and a graphics update?
I wasn't aware I proclaimed or implied i was an expert of starcraft 2 development.:indiff: But to answer your queston, the max players is still 8...i want 16, a supply limit bigger than the one we have in Broodwar (which currently is still 200:wail:) would be nice too, and bigger maps (judging by the videos the maps look approximately the same size)

[Matterialize]

Fair enough, those are good ideas.

In fact, those are great ideas.



:argh: Blizzard



EDIT: Apparently a beta version was leaked, and is downloadable from Zerogamers.com. (http://www.zerogamers.com/downloads/c190-Starcraft-2-Beta-Releases/f1483-Starcraft-2-Beta-Leaked.html) However, the site is one of them hack/exploit download places, so I seriously doubt it's real. If anyone actually bothers to download it, run it through a few virus scans to check. I can't be assed.

[TheLameSauce]

I cant explain why it's so popular...it's completely beyond me, that game is unbelievably dull and repetitive.


I wasn't aware I proclaimed or implied i was an expert of starcraft 2 development.:indiff: But to answer your queston, the max players is still 8...i want 16, a supply limit bigger than the one we have in Broodwar (which currently is still 200:wail:) would be nice too, and bigger maps (judging by the videos the maps look approximately the same size)

Heh, name an MMO that isn't dull and repetitive. WoW just pulls off the dull repetition in a more appealing way than any other MMO.

Blizzard isn't even done balancing the races... I'm sure they'll be upgrading the limitations of the game to meet par with what todays computers can take. As someone said before, Blizzard is known for putting out only quality games. You remember Starcraf: Ghost? They got so far into development but still weren't satisfied so they put the whole project on hold rather than finish it up and release it as it was.

[Dr. Gentlemen]

They should restart making SC:Ghost...the concept of the whole idea was great. We probably wouldn't see it until 2012 though knowing blizzard...

[BKS]

Fair enough, those are good ideas.

In fact, those are great ideas.



:argh: Blizzard



EDIT: Apparently a beta version was leaked, and is downloadable from Zerogamers.com. (http://www.zerogamers.com/downloads/c190-Starcraft-2-Beta-Releases/f1483-Starcraft-2-Beta-Leaked.html) However, the site is one of them hack/exploit download places, so I seriously doubt it's real. If anyone actually bothers to download it, run it through a few virus scans to check. I can't be assed.

Hm, I'd give it a download, but my virus scan is lacking as it is. Would be cool if it was real though.



As for SC:2, I think it will be better in every way Starcraft was, and improve in everything that it lacked. Like someone said before, Blizzard is good for high quality games.

[Matterialize]

They should restart making SC:Ghost...the concept of the whole idea was great. We probably wouldn't see it until 2012 though knowing blizzard...

Agreed. The whole idea for a Starcraft FPS was great. Although I think they should make it really gritty and dark, with crazy-realistic graphics and physics. The game would be so awesome if it had a really grim, cyberpunk feel to it.

[Jamez5000]

I highly doubt that is real, it says unknown filesize. If it was an actual leaked beta, it would be all over the place by now, especially torrent sites which it isn't.

[meTalmessiah]

My virus scan is from like 2000. If someone with better protection would download it and check it out, that'd be awesome, as I'm itching to play this game.

[Dr. Gentlemen]

i clicked on 'download' but the link led me here (http://search.live.com/results.aspx?FORM=MOCA19&q=Download&adlt=strict) so I'm guessing its a prank/dud.

[Matterialize]

That's not the download link, it's one of those stupid definition thingies. If you look to the right of the screen, you'll see that it says you need to register a free Zerogamers account.

I'm not gonna bother, though. My copy of Hellgate: London is already in the mail, so I've no need to risk my computer over a sloppy beta.

[Hats of!]

Why should they recreate StarCraft: Ghost?
Frankly, the idea of a FPS scares me. Blizzard is best at making story driven RTS.
RTS/RPG or nothing at all.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Apparently Starcraft 2 was going to be bigger than any RTS Blizzard ever made. Longer story, unique campaign per race, more beautifully rendered cutscenes, more characters. If they wanted finish every of those things, it would be quite a long time from now before the game is released.

So they decided to split the game into a trilogy: One full game with the Terran campaign, and then two expansions with the Zerg campaign and the Protoss campaign.

Thoughts?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Apparently Starcraft 2 was going to be bigger than any RTS Blizzard ever made. Longer story, unique campaign per race, more beautifully rendered cutscenes, more characters. If they wanted finish every of those things, it would be quite a long time from now before the game is released.

So they decided to split the game into a trilogy: One full game with the Terran campaign, and then two expansions with the Zerg campaign and the Protoss campaign.

Thoughts?

Dammit. I liked playing through the whole game as one story line, while switching classes. I'm looking forward to more cutscenes as well.
P.S: Does this show up for anybody else in the Movie and T.V forum?

[Tyler_Legrand]

Yeah.

This thread was made before the split :/

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yeah.

This thread was made before the split :/

Ah. I got all excited when I saw StarCraft 2 in the movie forum. We can only dream and hope that they scrap the WoW movie and work on something that would be amazing :hmm:

[Chips]

So they decided to split the game into a trilogy: One full game with the Terran campaign, and then two expansions with the Zerg campaign and the Protoss campaign.

Thoughts?

I think this was an awesome idea from a business point of view. I mean, look at the Halo franchise 'n shit. People eat up "halo" related merchandise and spin-offs with open wallets.

And to be honest so far from what I've seen I wouldn't care to have to buy two more expansions to play the full experience. Sometimes its worth it, sometimes it's not. Either way I think they'll have no problems at all with selling all three, which is obvious.

Plus if it's as Tyler says, its going to be fucking crammed full of shit that's certainly not going to fit in one game.

[Tyler_Legrand]

Go here to watch Zeratul kick some heiny. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41396.html)

[Tyler_Legrand]

The creature on the side: What the hell is that?

http://www.starcraft2.com/images/screenshots/ss106-hires.jpg

*There's a glimpse of another one on the other side

[Knight of Cydonia]

Maybe Lurker abilities? Most likely a new unit that is a worm pretty much.
Go here to watch Zeratul kick some heiny. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41396.html)

That was awesome in so many ways. Kerrigan looks sweet too.

[BKS]

I just watched Zeratul video and came twice. Goddamn I shouldnt have watched that, now Im pumped.

[Vir]

Im afraid to get excited for this game because blizzard is so consumed by WoW all their other stuff is taking forever.

[Tyler_Legrand]

They've always took forever.

Plus now everyone expects even more content and more 'realistic graphics'

[Mantastic]

The creature on the side: What the hell is that?

http://www.starcraft2.com/images/screenshots/ss106-hires.jpg

*There's a glimpse of another one on the other side

I'm not sure what your talking about, unless you mean the spiny thing on the wall, then thats just the terrain.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm not sure what your talking about, unless you mean the spiny thing on the wall, then thats just the terrain.

On the far bottom right, there's some big worm thing.

[Vir]

Its crawling out of the terrain I think it might just be some sort of creep not a specific races character, otherwise it would have to be a zerg unit that somehow crossed that gap or came out of it. So I think it is not a unit for one of the races.
Definitely a badass caterpillar monster that I can't wait to see in action.

Edit: i think the hydras are using it as a ladder which would make it one of their units. fuuuuuuu-

[Mantastic]

I just think it's a piece of wall but anyways...

I have noticed that you can completely obscure units under the tops of walls. It might be because of the adjustable camera angle but do you guys think this will effect anything?

[Kritza]

Oh...my...god! That trailer is amazing! I'd already seen the cinematic intro but I hadn't seen the one with Zeratul and Kerrigan. I'm so excited for this game now (not that I wasn't excited about it before). I heard that this game is being delayed though so Blizzard can push production of Diablo 3. Anyone else here this too?

[Tyler_Legrand]

I heard that this game is being delayed though so Blizzard can push production of Diablo 3. Anyone else here this too?

Starcraft 2 will be out before Diablo 3 in the sense that the first part of the Starcraft 2 trilogy will be finished first. But Diablo 3 will be out before the entire Starcraft 2 trilogy is completed.

Probable.

[BKS]

Wait, trilogy? I must have missed something?

[Mantastic]

Wait, trilogy? I must have missed something?

Starcraft is being released in three parts; Terran Campaign, Zerg Campaign and Protosss Campaign. Multiplayer will remain the same.

[Werty]

Kinda lame that they're doing that, but, oh well. That's blizzard for ya.

[Knight of Cydonia]

That bit has annoyed me quite a bit. It will be around $100 for the original disk then another $30-$40 for each of the expansions. The campaigns of each better be as long as all 3 were in the last games.

[Kritza]

Huh...I'm a little less excited now that I know about the three part deal. Paying for all those expansions is gonna suck.

[Mantastic]

I might buy the second and third...If the story remains good.

[BKS]

If they can pull this off, I'll probably HAVE to buy the second and third.

[Tyler_Legrand]

"That's blizzard for ya"? Have they done trilogies, or lame things, lots of times?

It will be around $100 for the original disk then another $30-$40 for each of the expansions.

How do you know this

The campaigns of each better be as long as all 3 were in the last games.

Blizzard already claimed that each campaign will be as long as 3 campaigns in the last game.



You have to understand that with each campaign, you're not just getting more maps that any idiot can make in the map maker that comes bundled with the game. In addition to cutscenes, you're also getting more of this:

http://lorelab.com/images/sc2/Hyperion_bridge_(StarCraft).jpg

Then they'd have to start over with Protoss, and I can't even imagine how they're gonna do Zerg.

[Kevinonfire]

I've read somewhere, can't remember where, that the three parts of the campaign will be quite different from one another. The Terran one will be mostly about Raynor fighting and buying mercenaries. The Zerg one should be the second one, and will have more RPG elements. The last one will be the Protoss one, and should be based more on Diplomacy. I'm not 100% sure of that, and I can't give any additionnal infos, but it's what I've read.

Also, Knight of Cydonia, where the hell do you live? 100$ for the original game?! Maybe a Collector's Edition could cost around that, but for only the game?

Edit : http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55267

Each campaign will be very different, with Pardo announcing the Zerg campaign will contain RPG elements. The Protoss campaign will likewise be differentiated by elements of diplomacy. In addition, the Terran campaign will feature a Protoss mini-campaign.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Also, Knight of Cydonia, where the hell do you live? 100$ for the original game?! Maybe a Collector's Edition could cost around that, but for only the game?
[/I]
It's called Australia. All games come out for around $100 or $90 from major game stores. It sucks a lot. You Americans will get the whole 3 disk's for around $120, for me and other Australians it will be up in the $200's. That's more than half a xbox 360.

[Kevinonfire]

It's called Australia. All games come out for around $100 or $90 from major game stores. It sucks a lot. You Americans will get the whole 3 disk's for around $120, for me and other Australians it will be up in the $200's. That's more than half a xbox 360.

Damn, I had no idea games cost that much over there. Sorry about that.