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NVM
09-25-2007, 3:35 PM
I notice that on other forums there is often a rep system. It usually involves giving users an option to lower and raise someones Reputation.
I know this wouldn't really work, since it'll just be a massive tool for circlejerking.

But it defiantly could be used for at least something to compete for in games and contests since people usually drop out because there's no point in even working hard.
So maybe the ability to affect people's rep can be limited to mods or thread starters(not counting spame).

Mr Anorexia
09-25-2007, 3:43 PM
As long as it's kept out of Spame or whatever I'm for it.

Audioslave
09-25-2007, 3:44 PM
No no no no nooo.

It would be fucked up within 2 minutes of it being implemented.

Cristo
09-25-2007, 4:00 PM
I do not like the sound of this idea at all, whatsoever. No. Just a big fat no, sorry NVM. Explosm isn't mature enough for that :P

Coconuts
09-25-2007, 4:02 PM
This could be a problem, seeing as there are certain favorites. Even with mods or admins giving this out, it wouldn't work. It shouldn't be as a contest either. I think we have some good rewards for people like custom titles and elitification. Sure, they're rare but that makes it more special.

Mr Anorexia
09-25-2007, 4:02 PM
Maybe just leave whatever up to the amins/mods/maybe elites.

Rob
09-25-2007, 4:09 PM
Maybe just leave whatever up to the amins/mods/maybe elites.

Mods can already leave user notes, but I don't think anyone uses them. I don't.

CharlieH
09-25-2007, 4:15 PM
The rep system on the Ctrl-Alt-Del forums works fine. I say give it a shot.

Mr Anorexia
09-25-2007, 4:18 PM
Mods can already leave user notes, but I don't think anyone uses them. I don't.
Really? Could you demonstrate using it?

Oberlin
09-25-2007, 4:25 PM
I think it would work well if it wasn't viewable, otherwise it turns into a contest. And I agree that only mods and admins should be able to do anything with it.

Matterialize
09-25-2007, 4:28 PM
Why do we need it? The number of active members on our forum is tiny in comparison to those other forums. You'll already know someone's "reputation" if they've been here long enough and are active, because there aren't that many of us.

Derelict
09-25-2007, 5:08 PM
Mine would be infinity.

Seriously, though, spammers would fuck it up right quick. It's a good idea, just not for Explosm.

BadAnkle
09-25-2007, 6:03 PM
Why not a rep system where only Elites and Explosmateers could give input. Elites would count fully, and Explosmateers would count to a degree determined by their own reps. Input would need to be in response to a particular post, and could not be given for posts in spame. Admins could obviously adjust a users rep as whimsy dictated. It should include automatic suspension when a user's rep falls too far into the negative to prevent people making a game out of how low they can get it.

It still might not work in the long run, but it wouldn't crash and burn immediately. I think it would be worth a shot. It might make the job easier for mods, as shitty posts would quickly push people into the red.

Derelict
09-25-2007, 6:10 PM
There are only roughly six elites who regularly post. As for Explosmateers, I don't think they respect us enough to give us valid input on forum changes. There's a lot of us now, and I really wouldn't give justice_seeker a chance to talk in this. He's... different.

Audioslave
09-25-2007, 6:13 PM
Mods can already leave user notes, but I don't think anyone uses them. I don't.

I used it once, it was actually pretty cool.

NVM
09-25-2007, 6:57 PM
I mentioned in the original post that it should be mods only and kept out of spame.
I was thinking of more of a reward system for contests and good ideas and what-not.

I highly doubt the scavenger hunt wouldn't of been as active if it was shits and giggles and not for the Flames.
Maybe like a roll-over little trophies, kinda like mod stars.

fabz
09-25-2007, 7:09 PM
Ya know, I was on this other forum and they had the rep system.

I posted a joke, which was blatant and the fuckers chastised me for it. I couldn't edit the post to say I was joking. So I never went back.

Do we really want that? I'm sure a good percentage would be:

lol fag.

And who wants that?

The rep system would be good if this was a little more mature board, but its not.

For example, when some kid posts a thread asking about how the comics are made, they are torn to shreds within 10 posts. While it's funny when that happens, the rep system is direct internet beating on the user. and I get beat enough at home.

Intestiny Destiny
09-25-2007, 7:10 PM
The rep system would work if we had something to use them on.

(SS points system.)

btw, things are just better if the admins did things without consulting its users

Matterialize
09-25-2007, 8:14 PM
Except that forums are made specifically for the users. If the admins turned the forum into shit because they felt like it, everyone would leave and the forum would become pointless.

If you guys end up doing this, I say you should do it BA's way.

hzac
09-25-2007, 8:16 PM
Personally I dont think its a good idea. I am apart of another forum with "karma points". Its basically the same principle but it gets mistreated.

Dodger
09-25-2007, 8:18 PM
I think Jewy proposed this a while ago. I don't really like it, for all the obvious reasons that have been pointed out. If implemented I don't think explosmateers should have input because anyone can be one by just posting enough.

Intestiny Destiny
09-25-2007, 8:44 PM
No way man, do it my way!

Also, rep systems are very stupid.

Beefynick
09-25-2007, 8:56 PM
There is no way that a rep system around here would work. It has been said that the boards are too immature and I agree. What would stop some immature person from registering a few screen names just so they could boost their rep points.

The rep point system is like communism, it sounds good in theory, but just does not work.

NVM
09-25-2007, 9:03 PM
I'm talking more about a Award System than a Rep. System.

hzac
09-25-2007, 9:07 PM
There isnt that many things that go down here that are worthy of awards.

ArKaiN
09-25-2007, 9:14 PM
If it's for mods, then it's pointless. 95% of people wouldn't even have a rating.
If it's for general, then we'll have "Fuck up [person]'s Reputation Day".

Raxo
09-25-2007, 9:15 PM
What if it's for coherent regular posters? Those who have good judgment.

Dodger
09-25-2007, 9:19 PM
Yeah maybe we should reward regular, funny posters. Let's see maybe we could give them access to a forum only other regular, funny posters can get into. While we're at it let's give them a title like "_____ User". Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar.

Raxo
09-25-2007, 9:21 PM
A lot of Elites aren't regular posters anymore.

I meant regular ones.

ArKaiN
09-25-2007, 9:22 PM
Yes, because regulars barely use spame.

Pelican Man
09-26-2007, 5:06 AM
If it's for mods, then it's pointless. 95% of people wouldn't even have a rating.
If it's for general, then we'll have "Fuck up [person]'s Reputation Day".

And a good portion of the time, that person would be you. I can see why you're against the idea.

opn4bzns
09-26-2007, 8:08 AM
I don't know if anyone from here is familiar with facepunchstudios (the forums for Garry's Mod, basically), but they have a rating system (awful spelling, unfriendly, etc) which works pretty well.

Kenneh
09-26-2007, 8:13 AM
Yes, because regulars barely use spame.

What the fuck are you talking about?

BadAnkle
09-26-2007, 8:43 AM
There is no way that a rep system around here would work. It has been said that the boards are too immature and I agree.I disagree. I don't think the admins and elites are all that immature. I'd watch my ass talking that sort of trash.

I suggested that Explosmateers be allowed input, but that it would be weighted by the user's own rep. The whole idea of a rep system is that people with shit for brains don't count for anything. Yes, there might be people who would abuse a rep system. They would wind up either banned or with a negative rep, and the problem would work itself out naturally. So a rep system could be a useful tool for weeding out assholes who might otherwise have gone undetected.What would stop some immature person from registering a few screen names just so they could boost their rep points.Why don't you go ahead and register a second screen name and post with it, just once. See what happens. The site admins may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.The rep point system is like communism, it sounds good in theory, but just does not work.Except that, unlike communism, there are as many examples of it working as there are of it not.

The only real reason to resist a rep system is the knowledge that nobody likes you.

Kenneh
09-26-2007, 8:46 AM
The only real reason to resist a rep system is the knowledge that nobody likes you.

Thats the only reason you're accepting it.

Derelict
09-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I disagree. I don't think the admins and elites are all that immature. I'd watch my ass talking that sort of trash.

I suggested that Explosmateers be allowed input, but that it would be weighted by the user's own rep. The whole idea of a rep system is that people with shit for brains don't count for anything. Yes, there might be people who would abuse a rep system. They would wind up either banned or with a negative rep, and the problem would work itself out naturally. So a rep system could be a useful tool for weeding out assholes who might otherwise have gone undetected.Why don't you go ahead and register a second screen name and post with it, just once. See what happens. The site admins may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.Except that, unlike communism, there are as many examples of it working as there are of it not.

The only real reason to resist a rep system is the knowledge that nobody likes you.
What about those of us everyone hates?! :wail:

BadAnkle
09-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Thats the only reason you're accepting it.

Not so. If we had a rep system and it was revealed to me that I am not as funny as I think I am, I'd either stop trying to be funny or do it on another forum. That's the whole point of a rep system.What about those of us everyone hates?! :wail:

Well, I guess you're pretty much fucked.

ArKaiN
09-26-2007, 1:00 PM
Not so. If we had a rep system and it was revealed to me that I am not as funny as I think I am, I'd either stop trying to be funny or do it on another forum. That's the whole point of a rep system.


Or you could take our word for it.

Seriously, nobody needs another pathway to conflict. People already bitch about joining dates and amount of posts. If you need validation so much, try being good at something in real life.

Spastic
09-26-2007, 2:55 PM
I do not like the sound of this idea at all, whatsoever. No. Just a big fat no, sorry NVM. Explosm isn't mature enough for that :P

'Cause you are so mature right?

BKS
09-26-2007, 4:15 PM
This thread turned into Beef. Seriously, shut the fuck up and actually talk about why it would or would not work, not things like "omg ur gay" or "This site did it, and it worked."


Shit... If anything, do a trial run and see how it goes. Good: maybe keep, bad: ditch.

ArKaiN
09-26-2007, 4:47 PM
Is it that easy to implement?

BadAnkle
09-27-2007, 7:18 AM
This thread turned into Beef. Seriously, shut the fuck up and actually talk about why it would or would not work, not things like "omg ur gay" or "This site did it, and it worked."

I have to assume your problem is mostly with ArKaiN, because the thread seems perfectly rational when she's on your ignore list.

Just think of her behavior as a strong argument in favor of a rep system. New users would be able to tell at a glance that she's pretty much universally reviled here, and would know to just skip over her posts.

Devinmsz
09-29-2007, 12:09 AM
I have to assume your problem is mostly with ArKaiN, because the thread seems perfectly rational when she's on your ignore list.

Just think of her behavior as a strong argument in favor of a rep system. New users would be able to tell at a glance that she's pretty much universally reviled here, and would know to just skip over her posts.

Or people could actually, you know, start using their ignore list?