Geek stuff

[Glurf]

I want to pursue a computer programmer or a web developer career, I already know many languages in both, and I was just wondering, is anyone else a web developer/computer programmer? Maybe you just do it in your spare time?

[Rebecca.]

My brother is majoring in computer programming at Princeton. He tried to show me some of the basics, & I attempted a program, but it got too frustrating for me.

[Grim]

Well this year im taking 11th grade programing (im going in 10th grade). And im planning on geting a job as a video game programer (when im older of course).

[Beefynick]

I used to do programming and web developing in my free time. I now have no time for it.

I would like to to take classes at the university I attend, but I cannot understand any of the professors.

[Ninja 2.0]

Could you guys give me some advice on how to get into programming/web stuff?
Because I'm very interested in it but I don't know how to start :-/

[Glurf]

Which do you want to start? If you want to start web programming, use this website:
W3 (http://w3schools.com/) and start with JavaScript
If you want to start programming, start with Basic, or more specific, Liberty Basic
Libery Basic (http://www.libertybasic.com)

[Couch]

I know a couple of languages, but I'm most proficient with Java. I took 2 years of computer programming at my school, and even earned some college credit for it. :nerd:

[Casalen]

I do some. I wrote a PHP based content management system, including a calendar and mass mailer, for my high school's music department a few years ago. A lot of it was hacked apart from other scripts to save time, though. Since then I've done more basic stuff for photography, digital printing and video websites, and I really should do more. Time is an issue, though. I'm not even sure what degree I'm working for now, computer stuff has pretty well fallen out of favor with me for some unknown reason.

[Glurf]

I'm most proficient with Basic, but unfortunately no one hires for that. I'm trying to get really good at C first, then C++ then Java. Web wise, I know PHP, JavaScript, HTML and CSS (Not really programming languages, but you have to know them). I tried to start Java first, but couldn't find all thew things you had to download and gave up lol.

[ryanknapper]

I tried to start Java first, but couldn't find all thew things you had to download and gave up lol.
Step One: Don't do that. Don't stop trying to find what you need and definitely don't give up lol. You'll need it later.

[Kwanza]

http://www.getafreelancer.com

Check out that site, it helped me land quite a few jobs. The only problem there, is it's loaded with uh, people with broken English. So, everyone is saying things like, "I am ready start your assignment you be ready you send", which makes no sense. There's lots of competition, but with persistence you can make some bucks for your bang.

[fabz]

Also, for anyone that might be interested...

http://www.w3schools.com/

Has basically all the languages on the internet so you can learn at least a little bit and then take it from there. It helped me build a website that was a total failure but it was still cool to see the process.

[gimp]

I'm a programmer. Did some web design, did some real languages. Do mostly java right now. Working on a multi-player card game framework (obviously with a graphical interface).

I worked off the crappy freelancing sites for a while. They're garbage. You always get underbid by some idiot who'll do an oscommerce site for $25 but then a week after doing nothing gives you your money back if you're lucky. The only ones that are worth it is the ones you pay for, but then you actually have to get enough work to make it worthwhile. Some people live off those sites but most normal freelancers are just contractors who have a small (1-5) person company who do work for other companies. Some freelancers do relatively small projects, but lots of em - it's not bad, you can get $300 for something that only took you a little while to do, and that a few times a day, and you work from home or in a very small business so it's quite comfortable. More serious contractors work for one place for a few months and get quite a lot of cash (but remember, they need more cash than other people because they're getting no benefits from the company). Some freelancers are just people who are known for great ability who charge at least $40, more often $50-$80 per hour. The reason I split those up is because they have too much ability to be freelancers, but rather have real jobs, and they might earn a few hundred a month just so they can have spending money for useless crap.

You can start on a site but don't tarry too long. If you want work during high school you'll need to either find a small contracting company to work with or start your own. During high school you'll be limited to doing small projects, and those for a fraction of the cost - if you work for another company you might expect half or two-thirds to money, if you work for yourself you might expect the same because of your youth (though if you've great experience and can prove it, you can get paid almost as much as a professional). To be able to charge by the hour and only work a little bit whenever you want, you need great ability and great experience. I've only four years of real experience (before that was just html and javascript which don't count as programming) so I could never get that much just yet.

[lol_lmao_]

well have got hDpccd? if you dont your an dmbguy

[Niki]

I'd rather test things than program them. Like I could never ever program a video game but I'd LOVE to test them.
I honestly know nothing about computer programming.
:blanky:

[JasonD]

I done a bit of computer programming.
I know BASIC quite well and a bit of HTML coding.
I mostly specialize in making mission scripts for GTA2 but thats not really in demand anymore :(

[raft]

Thanks for the link, Kwanza. My little brother might be able to make use of his hobbies..

I don't know any programming stuff now, but I plan on taking a couple courses once I get time in my schedule. My advisor is a comp science professor and he kicks ass, so I'd like to take some of his classes if I get a chance.

How much have you guys been able to learn on your own? Did you find it difficult? I'm kind of concerned even the intro classes will be full of people who already know shit (people who have taken the intro course say its tough).. maybe I should start studying before I sign up.

[Glurf]

Its not that hard to learn, if you want to learn before hand, buy a book. And don't buy a "For Dummies" book, they fucking suck at teaching this kind of stuff.

[jewishjosh]

I tried a For Dummies book and it was the biggest piece of shit ever. You could not find a more complicated way to explain something if you tried.

I was interested in this stuff several years ago so I taught myself HTML and a bit of Javascript, but I switched over to Flash and Actionscript because you can just draw your stuff by hand instead of by programming. In grade 8 I took a computer programming course at school and we learned a bit of VisualBasic and Java, but I got irritated with the whole set-up you need for Java and I eventually just lost interest. I still dick around with this stuff every now and then, but I wouldn't personally pursue it as a career.

[Tokzic]

I'm currently shooting for a job in computer tech support & repair.

[b1wsatan]

Get a good job in computer repair, get your N+, S+, A+ and find a good job in security or networking.

Programming sucks and programmers get paid shit compared to other tech jobs.

If you wanna go for the gold get L+

[Murt]

At the moment I'm trying to get back in the second year of Software Development course, and mainly work with C++, But hopefully learn more languages next year. I find it hard but for some reason my lecturers think I'm a natural.....But I now have to do Resits for it :think: But to be honest I'm not sure if I'll pursue it yet as i think I'd prefer to build computers rather than program them.

[gimp]

Get a good job in computer repair, get your N+, S+, A+ and find a good job in security or networking.

Programming sucks and programmers get paid shit compared to other tech jobs.

If you wanna go for the gold get L+
I don't know what you're on. It all depends on what you do. Scientific may not pay much but business will pay six figs if you're in the right place, and financial can start at six figs if you went to the right college.

What doesn't pay too much is being a code monkey all your life. Maybe that's what you meant? Or maybe you're just an idiot.

I learnt almost all I know by myself. That includes all the networking I do. It's not difficult if you've a great grasp of logic and a good grasp of math.

[BmphP]

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