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Old 10-24-2008, 6:05 PM       Post #1  
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Hello Explosmy music people.

I have recently acquired a new bass (Fender Squier, its pretty ). I haven't played in about three years, so needless to say my callouses are completely gone. Are there any tricks to build them up again?

Also, I need some songs that are easy/moderate, as I can't play for shit anymore. What songs did you play to learn the bass?


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Old 10-24-2008, 6:24 PM       Post #2  
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The only way to build callouses is to play. If you really want to build them up quickly, play consistently. Like, if you were to play for 8 hours over two days, you should play 4 hours both days instead of 6/2 or 8/0 or something. Don't give your fingers any rest.
As for songs, I'd suggest some punk, just to work on your finger speed and dexterity. Most isn't technically hard by any means, but it's good if you have the basic experience but lack the skills to play well. Stuff like Amoeba by The Adolescents, American Jesus by Bad Religion, Give It All or maybe Prayer of the Refugee, both by Rise Against, or maybe Tearing Down the Borders by Anti-Flag. Really, any punk song would work, but I'm just listing my preferences.


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Old 10-24-2008, 6:38 PM       Post #3  
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Yeah. Back in my hey-day, Punk is what led me to play bass. NOFX has some really fucking hard basslines but also some pretty simple ones. Same with Blink 182.

Playing consistently is the best idea of course. Eh.


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Old 10-24-2008, 11:40 PM       Post #4  
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I'm just starting to learn bass for the first time. I've played on my friends and I was going to buy my own today but I forgot. The first/only song I ever played was mary had a little lamb.


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Old 10-25-2008, 1:31 AM       Post #5  
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I reckon try For Whom the Bell Tolls and My Friend of Misery by Metallica. They're what got me started.

Also; a lot of Green Day stuff. Mike Dirnt is a mad cunt.

As for callouses, playing consistently, obviously. But try to make sure you play with bowed fingers, not flat fingers. The tips of your fingers should be holding the strings down, not the face.


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Old 10-25-2008, 2:57 AM       Post #6  
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Keep playing even after your fingers start to hurt.


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Old 10-26-2008, 12:22 AM       Post #7  
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Very precise walking jazz bass lines. Royal Crown Revue also has a ton of good, straight forward walking lines. this will also work on good fret hand strength.


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Old 10-26-2008, 8:12 PM       Post #8  
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I'm currently learning Iron Man and Paranoid, both by Black Sabbath. Really simple metal bass lines and Paranoid has a very consistant line.


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Old 10-26-2008, 8:20 PM       Post #9  
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This method is a little crazy sounding, but helped me. If you have a decent tolerance for pain and are feeling a little masochistic, it works.

Heat up a stove or whatever you have - preferrably something with larger heating coils. Don't do it to the point where it causes nerve damage, but have it hot enough that you can put your fingertips on it. It should hurt. Hold it for a bit, and take your hand off. Rapid cooling with cold water helps. Do this every so often.

My callouses got to the point where, with my left hand, I can only give blood for blood tests with my right hand, because the needle won't draw from my left fingertips. It doesn't mutilate your hands as bad as you would think.

It hurts like hell, but combined with consistent playing, you get shells instead of fingertips.


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Old 10-27-2008, 4:48 AM       Post #10  
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Wow that is a stupid idea. Just play lots. Damn.


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Old 10-27-2008, 5:29 AM       Post #11  
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This method is a little crazy sounding, but helped me. If you have a decent tolerance for pain and are feeling a little masochistic, it works.

Heat up a stove or whatever you have - preferrably something with larger heating coils. Don't do it to the point where it causes nerve damage, but have it hot enough that you can put your fingertips on it. It should hurt. Hold it for a bit, and take your hand off. Rapid cooling with cold water helps. Do this every so often.

My callouses got to the point where, with my left hand, I can only give blood for blood tests with my right hand, because the needle won't draw from my left fingertips. It doesn't mutilate your hands as bad as you would think.

It hurts like hell, but combined with consistent playing, you get shells instead of fingertips.
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Old 10-27-2008, 8:59 AM       Post #12  
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I don't think you need callouses THAT hard. Consistent playing should create sufficient callouses.


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Old 10-27-2008, 12:53 PM       Post #13  
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G|------------------------4-5-6-7-----------------------------------|
D|----------------3-4-5-6---------5-6-7-8---------------------------|
A|--------2-3-4-5-------------------------6-7-8-9---------8-9-10-11|
E|1-2-3-4-----------------------------------------7-8-9-10----------|

G|----------10-11-12-13|
D|9-10-11-12-----------|
A|----------------------|
E|----------------------|

After you play this whole thing play it in reverse. I like this little warmup because it will help you build callouses while working on your speed (you can play this at any tempo but the idea is to gradually get faster as you become familiar) and dexterity and familiarizes you with playing up and down the neck. I got into the habit of playing this a few times a day and noticed a considerable difference in my playing. If you want to make it even more in depth of an exercise, after completing one round move the first root note up one fret, rinse and repeat.


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Old 10-27-2008, 5:55 PM       Post #14  
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Awesome :) Thanks for all your suggestions (except for Alcho, what the fuck, man?)

I'll give those tabs and some of those songs a go.


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Old 10-27-2008, 6:13 PM       Post #15  
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Haha, I told you it sounds crazy, but I swear to God it works. It's called intense dedication and possible mental retardation, both of which I subscribe to.


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Old 10-27-2008, 6:33 PM       Post #16  
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Holy shit Alc, that sounds painful.

Yeah when I started playing, it hurt me. I'd keep playing even though it hurt, and the pain went away the next couple of day.s


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Old 10-29-2008, 12:07 AM       Post #17  
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G|------------------------4-5-6-7-----------------------------------|
D|----------------3-4-5-6---------5-6-7-8---------------------------|
A|--------2-3-4-5-------------------------6-7-8-9---------8-9-10-11|
E|1-2-3-4-----------------------------------------7-8-9-10----------|

G|----------10-11-12-13|
D|9-10-11-12-----------|
A|----------------------|
E|----------------------|

After you play this whole thing play it in reverse. I like this little warmup because it will help you build callouses while working on your speed (you can play this at any tempo but the idea is to gradually get faster as you become familiar) and dexterity and familiarizes you with playing up and down the neck. I got into the habit of playing this a few times a day and noticed a considerable difference in my playing. If you want to make it even more in depth of an exercise, after completing one round move the first root note up one fret, rinse and repeat.
In addition to this, make sure you use all four fingers to play. Seems obvious to me, but the number of bassists I see in local bands who never use their pinkie is astounding.
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Old 10-29-2008, 2:58 AM       Post #18  
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I'm surprised every time I find out one of my musician buddies doesn't use their pinkie, whether it be bass or guitar. It just seems like such an obvious thing. Everything's just so much easier that way, and some riffs are just plain impossible without it.


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Old 10-29-2008, 12:40 PM       Post #19  
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It seems obvious, but unless you've been taught otherwise, you tend to stay away from your pinky. It's naturally weaker and rather awkwardly placed (ergonomically, that is) - uncomfortable to use if you haven't trained it up. It's absolutely the same with piano.


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Old 10-29-2008, 2:14 PM       Post #20  
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I broke my arm playing high school sports, which completely tore a muscle on the inside of my left arm, crushed a ligament in the elbow, and broke the radial headbone. The way it healed wasn't quite right, so as a effect my entire forearm will lock up if I use my pinky in many ways.

I can chord with it no problem, and position my wrist so my arm doesn't lock, as people tend to adapt to problems or abnormalities. That being said, I generally try to stay away from using my pinky as much as possible.


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Old 11-01-2008, 9:27 AM       Post #21  
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If you don't train with your pinkie, more complex chords and scales would be harder to master and play correctly.


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Old 11-03-2008, 6:54 PM       Post #22  
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The way I did it was playing for like 8 hours daily(five days a week, from monday to friday), Of course...I didn't do my homework and I got into a lot of trouble, but I learned to play guitar really fast and it was worth it.


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Old 11-04-2008, 9:51 PM       Post #23  
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Personally, I just did a lot of scale run downs and chord stretches, helps you learn theory while building callouses.

Also, make sure you play with your fingers(right hand) and not a pick.

Picks are nice for garnering a certain tone, but fingers are the way to go.


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Old 11-04-2008, 10:32 PM       Post #24  
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Personally, I just did a lot of scale run downs and chord stretches, helps you learn theory while building callouses.

Also, make sure you play with your fingers(right hand) and not a pick.

Picks are nice for garnering a certain tone, but fingers are the way to go.
Fingers also feel much more natural and give a much better sound. Also, learn the names of the notes and go through them as a warm up.
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Old 11-05-2008, 3:45 AM       Post #25  
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There's nothing wrong with playing with a pick, I for one like the sound (but I do not play with them since I feel sort of handicaped, certain techniques are impossible to do with a pick.

But still, nothing wrong with playing with a pick, if you want the sound it gives you.


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Old 11-05-2008, 4:13 AM       Post #26  
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When playing with my band, I normally play with fingers, and if I do play with a pick, I throw it away halfway through the song. Last time we played I started every song with a pick, too, haha. In almost every song I chucked the pick away.

Greger, what techniques are you talking about?


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Old 11-05-2008, 5:24 AM       Post #27  
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I know this has already been said, but play consistently. When I first picked up bass I did around 4 hours a day from Monday to Thursday, and let my fingers recover over the weekend.

I first started playing bass after listening to Schism by Tool. If you're looking for a challenge, try playing Rush songs. I found those fairly difficult, especially the runs in YYZ.


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Old 11-05-2008, 6:41 AM       Post #28  
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When playing with my band, I normally play with fingers, and if I do play with a pick, I throw it away halfway through the song. Last time we played I started every song with a pick, too, haha. In almost every song I chucked the pick away.

Greger, what techniques are you talking about?
Slap picking, for one.


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Old 11-05-2008, 5:10 PM       Post #29  
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Oh yeah, that's a given. Completely slipped my mind, I thought Greger meant certain aspects of tapping or something.


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Old 11-05-2008, 7:32 PM       Post #30  
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Oh yeah, that's a given. Completely slipped my mind, I thought Greger meant certain aspects of tapping or something.
I tried hitting my pick against the low E.


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Old 11-05-2008, 7:36 PM       Post #31  
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Uh, sorry? What do you mean?


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Old 11-05-2008, 7:47 PM       Post #32  
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Uh, sorry? What do you mean?
I literally mean, hitting the low E with the side of the pick. Not picking it, but hitting it. Like a stabbing sort of motion. It was supposed to be funny, but I just failed.


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Old 11-05-2008, 9:43 PM       Post #33  
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Oohh, I getcha. I'd like to see how you pop with that technique, haha.


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Old 11-06-2008, 1:36 AM       Post #34  
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Oohh, I getcha. I'd like to see how you pop with that technique, haha.
A lot of people play bass and angle a pick flat and downward to slide under a string, between the pick and their finger, then pull to pop it. It's pretty cool, but I've only met a couple people who can do it efficiently!

Like someone said with the stabbing technique, depending on the tone I'm looking for, I stab with the rounded side of my pick for the highest note wile tapping too. It can sound nice, if you're accurate with it!
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:34 PM       Post #35  
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I suck with picks.
I probably play faster fingering (sounds sexual) right by the bridge.
Although sometimes I can get going pretty fast slapping (kind of sexual).

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Old 11-30-2008, 11:38 PM       Post #36  
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The only way I know is to play your fingers off every day. They sometimes bleed.
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:42 PM       Post #37  
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Picks are nice for heavy riffs, maybe more for aggressive 'lead' playing(Justin Chancellor), but fingers just make you feel so accomplished. It helps as I play fingerstyle guitar too.

As for the callouses, don't play with your hands wet. You'll just lose the calloused skin.


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Old 12-01-2008, 5:09 PM       Post #38  
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The best warm up songs I know are "So Much I" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers (for a good all-over-the-fretboard-workout) and "Are You Gonna Go My Way" by Lenny Kravitz. It's a really simple line, but allows you to do some improvising in between the licks.

A very tedious way to make your fingers hurt really bad is to slide up from F# on the E string up to the octave on the same string. Start with your index, then when that starts hurting, switch to your middle finger, etc. After your pinky starts hurting, switch back to your index, and repeat the process. Do this until you get bored (which probably shouldn't take long). By the way, I think that this is an actual song, but I forget what it's called.

This doesn't have a whole lot to do with callouses, but a good warm up before gigs and the like is to play chromatic scales, starting on the low F and going up the neck, probably to the 12 fret or past if you want. The catch here is starting painfully slow (40 bpm or less) and getting faster as you move up frets. Also, using open notes kind of ruins the whole idea.
I would tab this but I suck at it.

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I just tried Alcoholic's burnt-fingers method and my fingertips hurt like a bitch. If this doesn't work I'm going to be pretty steamed (get it?)
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Old 12-04-2008, 9:45 PM       Post #39  
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The best warm up songs I know are "So Much I" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers
Play anything by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I guarantee you'll build up callouses from playing it so much just to get it right. Flea is insane.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:07 PM       Post #40  
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Not to drown you with more RHCP suggestions, but if you wanna start practicing slapping/popping, a good first riff would be the first line line from RHCP's cover of Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground
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